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8/4/09
Michael Vick Doesn't Belong Back In The NFL
Michael Vick Back In The NFL...Not So Fast
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by rileyjames47 more posts by author
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 So everyone is on the Michael Vick bandwagon, huh, the old, "He did his time", "He paid his debt", "Why should he be deprived of his right to work", and one genius even said Michael Vick is "Gifted" that is why he should get his job back in the NFL.

 Well, after listening to most, not all, but most of the mainstream Q spout this inane dribble about this murdering thug it really made me question how many brain cells people  are losing every day, and how hardened they are to the plight of our humanity and knowing the difference between a crime of grotesque violence and  crimes of a different nature. Also it made me question just how little affinity so many people on here feel for animals as opposed to humans.

 You know this is not about just dogfighting convictions. What would you say about a man and his thugs who  would hang dogs on trees by the neck, wet them down, and then electrocute them to death. What would you say about a man who along with his thugs would beat dogs to death with bats and throw them into cement walls and the ground repeatedly, what would you say to this freak who would take dog's and stick their heads under water and drowned them? Well? Let's forget about the horrid acts of someone who is clearly disturbed and let him march back into the NFL and began collecting his millions again. 18 months in a lightweight prison is all those murdered and abused animals are worth that are now dead by the most macabre means.

 I will also say for the record that no-one is keeping Michael Vick from working, it just should not be in the NFL. And for the person who thinks Vick is "Gifted", I wouldn't call any human being gifted that would do the things that Vick did. Find a new hero, because Vick is a villain for the ages, and don't throw no race cards on this table because that had nothing to do with anything. White, Black, Purple, Yellow would make no difference, because he is black does not excuse a rich professional athlete from his deeds.

 So it is rather ironic that while watching the early edition of the CBS Morning News, that the broadcaster had on a T.V. Analyst from the BET Network, an African-American, who talked about Vick with more honesty than i have heard yet. The broadcaster had asked him about why he should be allowed to return to the NFL, and this analyst told her that the NFL is trying to show that it is willing to give someone a second chance. That Vick could indeed do more for dogfighting and the horrible things associated with this illegal function by becoming a highly visible figure to speak out against it. The CBS News Person told him, "Do you think we would get our jobs back had we killed dogs by electrocution, beating dogs and drowning them?" The BET analyst said No, I don't, but the NFL offers a unique opportunity to show the world that a person can have a second chance if he shows remorse for his crimes, IF, so he has not convinced us all. The BET analyst went on to say that the NFL Commissioner has stated that Vick must show his remorse and work with the humane society, and other organizations, if you will, to be a spokesperson against dogfighting. He is not guaranteed to be accepted unless the NFL sees what Vick is doing about trying to show remorse and be outwardly visible in working with animal organizations to help stop dogfighting.

 I was highly impressed with this BET commentary about the saga of Michael Vick, and it made a lot of sense. Vick is a monster and until I see him doing things to change those perceptions, and doing things The NFL expects to see him do I don't believe Vick belongs on ANY football field, and if you people out there think his crimes should be so easily dismissed or forgiven then you need to re-evaluate your definition of violent crimes against people, and animals as well.  I will not watch or have anything to do with the NFL if Michael Vick shows up there until I see something from Vick to make me believe he is honestly remorseful and speaking out in public about dogfighting. So far he has done nothing except do a measly 18 months in a low security prison, and the time he was sentenced to is nowhere near enough.

 The time for talk is at an end. Just because he is an athlete should mean nothing to the law-abiding dog owning citizens out there in America and everywhere else. 
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8/3/09
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(Edited by kteacher)
Nice write up Riley. I think children and animals are our most vulnerable so when people do the things Vick has done, I think it is unforgivable and scary.

8/3/09
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(Edited by kteacher)
Nice write up Riley. I think children and animals are our most vulnerable so when people do the things Vick has done, I think it is unforgivable and scary.

8/3/09
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AMEN!

I hate the whiners who talk about "he's being kept from doing his job."  As if someone is telling him, "He F-head you're not allowed to use the degree you supposedly earned in college to actually do something productive in our society now that you've showed your absolute a** to the world!"

And I'm spent!  Nice post!

8/3/09
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Well said,  Its nice to know that there are people who think animals are important to.

8/4/09
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I will leave a comment about the article once I pick myself up off the floor from laughing at that picture.

8/4/09
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This is a biased story if I've ever heard one! Just because he killed animals in inhumane ways does NOT mean that he shouldn't be given a second chance. Dogs aren't people, they are animals, and I don't care how inhumane he was to those dogs, he has gone to PRISON, done his time, and is "rehabilitated" according to our government. I must ask how many people above me who have commented on this post have been on the inside of a PRISON CELL??? Not a JAIL CELL, a PRISON CELL??? I'm guessing NONE of you because there is no such thing as a measley 18 months at any prison. I love dogs just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that I believe that they are in any way humans. Pavlov proved that they have no rational thoughts a long time ago. Get over it, Vick is coming back. He deserves a second chance. That is what our Justice System is based on, right? Second chances?? You don't want Vick back in the NFL, don't watch.

8/4/09
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You people are so D#$% ignorant. This man made a mistake and was made an example of bye every means imaginable. He served his time. People are forgetting that this is an animal that every state euthanizes on a daily basis without regret so i guess hes wrong in how he did it but its done every day. There are far more cases in the NFL of players commiting murders, rape, and acts that are punishable by law and affect PEOPLE not animals. How is killing a stray and not even attempting to find a home for these pitbulls any better than what Michael Vick did. There was just a recent story of an NFL player killing a man while driving under the influence i guess thats ok in the world we live in. This man deserves a second chance and i hope he gets it.

8/4/09
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Stop the press and what a minute!!!!
I have never read something so cruel. You talk of prison as if it's a cake walk then you say I want to see change. first i would say go to prison you probably couldn't handle it and decide to take your own life!!!  
second of all a crime is a crime...  Am i applauding or condoning the actions that mike took no!! I love dogs i have 3, but what I am saying is,  if doctors,lawyers and accounts who make mistakes are given a second chance w/out serving jail time i mind you, then you tell me mister righteous why shouldn't mike?
Your article is just plain cruel and insensitive. Let's take a look at the adj. you use monster, killer,thug, by the looks of your article you may be describing yourself. Life is about giving or i say should be about giving people second chances if you can say you have never made a mistake then i need to meet you JESUS. But if your like the rest of us who make mistakes in life no matter how big or small then you deserve to prove you  need  a second chance no matter what arena your in, the man's profession is being a professional athlete that being football player let him do what he's good at and only then will you or i be able to see if he's remorseful through his actions. And again I think you need to go to jail to appreciate life because I can't get over you calling 18 months away from everyone and everything that you love a measly sentence. Trust me it's not a cake walk, this coming from someone who has done 15years. He is back so deal w/it. If you choose not to watch so be it that is your choice but I choose to watch along with millions. WoW you want to see change but you don't want to watch? Go figure........

Signed
Hard Time

8/4/09
7
shuaib1382 wrote:
You people are so D#$% ignorant. This man made a mistake and was made an example of bye every means imaginable. He served his time. People are forgetting that this is an animal that every state euthanizes on a daily basis without regret so i guess hes wrong in how he did it but its done every day. There are far more cases in the NFL of players commiting murders, rape, and acts that are punishable by law and affect PEOPLE not animals. How is killing a stray and not even attempting to find a home for these pitbulls any better than what Michael Vick did. There was just a recent story of an NFL player killing a man while driving under the influence i guess thats ok in the world we live in. This man deserves a second chance and i hope he gets it.
good choice of words (ignorant), I can't belive the way people think

8/4/09
5
ipunki wrote:
This is a biased story if I've ever heard one! Just because he killed animals in inhumane ways does NOT mean that he shouldn't be given a second chance. Dogs aren't people, they are animals, and I don't care how inhumane he was to those dogs, he has gone to PRISON, done his time, and is "rehabilitated" according to our government. I must ask how many people above me who have commented on this post have been on the inside of a PRISON CELL??? Not a JAIL CELL, a PRISON CELL??? I'm guessing NONE of you because there is no such thing as a measley 18 months at any prison. I love dogs just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that I believe that they are in any way humans. Pavlov proved that they have no rational thoughts a long time ago. Get over it, Vick is coming back. He deserves a second chance. That is what our Justice System is based on, right? Second chances?? You don't want Vick back in the NFL, don't watch.
I'm w/ you bro.

8/4/09
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People are getting so worked up about this. Why aren't there posts about how easy Donte Stallworth got off?

8/4/09
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We should still have capital punishment. The world is overpopulated and humans are parasites. We have the ability to reason yet don't use it. I can't believe just how ignorant you people that defend him are.

8/4/09
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Three very quick issues come to mind.  Religion is obviously important to little Timmy, but I guess he missed the forgiveness sermon.  Second, being "gifted" and being a good person are often not related.  Finally, why were you surprised about the BET analyst?  I'm sure African-Americans disagree with one another on this issue as well.  Great writing, Riley. 

8/4/09
5
 Now if this was a white athlete would you downplay him the same or just blame it on him trying to fit in on the Hip-Hop culture. Would he still have the seek counseling and have a brain scan as well.

8/4/09
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jvuk1 wrote:
We should still have capital punishment. The world is overpopulated and humans are parasites. We have the ability to reason yet don't use it. I can't believe just how ignorant you people that defend him are.
i think you may need anti depressants, it;s not theat bad. i mean anomal shelters kill dogs everyday and i wonder how many of you run out and adopt every dog possible and give them a farm to run around on.  my guess none, so in the instance where thousands of animals are killed avery day you remain complacent. but when a man makes a mistake in life and does something such as he did, he then has no rights. animals are cool, they do tricks and stuff, they are friends and even family to others, they have rights, so why doesnt vick have the right to a second chance.
     a man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies.

8/4/09
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I'm willing to forget what he did in order to watch his explosiveness on the field once more. For one, I highly doubt him being in the NFL or playing football at all would stop him from dogfighting if that's what he truly wants to do with his freedom.

Sure what he did was inhumane and wrong, but dogs are just animals. They aren't born with the expectancy to live like us humans, dogs are too stupid to know what's going on. I personally love dogs, but it's really annoying when people start claiming that we should treat them like human beings. He deserves a second chance and he will get it, start believing that.

8/4/09
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ipunki wrote:
This is a biased story if I've ever heard one! Just because he killed animals in inhumane ways does NOT mean that he shouldn't be given a second chance. Dogs aren't people, they are animals, and I don't care how inhumane he was to those dogs, he has gone to PRISON, done his time, and is "rehabilitated" according to our government. I must ask how many people above me who have commented on this post have been on the inside of a PRISON CELL??? Not a JAIL CELL, a PRISON CELL??? I'm guessing NONE of you because there is no such thing as a measley 18 months at any prison. I love dogs just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean that I believe that they are in any way humans. Pavlov proved that they have no rational thoughts a long time ago. Get over it, Vick is coming back. He deserves a second chance. That is what our Justice System is based on, right? Second chances?? You don't want Vick back in the NFL, don't watch.
No, I can't say I have seen the inside of a prison cell. Most law abiding citizens don't. There is a saying that goes, "You can judge a society by the way they treat the most helpless members." You obviously don't love dogs as much as the next guy, because foolishly believe they do not deserve humane treatment because they are not human. By the way, Pavlov's experiment didn't prove that dogs have no rational thoughts. It proved that animals would salivate at the sound of a bell because they knew food was on the way. Guess what? You salivate, too, at the smell of certain foods. Vick does not deserve a second chance. He got his shot and blew it because the amount of money he was getting paid by the NFL wasn't enough for him. He threw it away without a second thought and then lied to prosecuters. My greatest hope is that if he comes back to the NFL he gets his ass knocked off and sustains a career ending injury.

8/4/09
5

This article is a perfect example of why we have a legal system with penalties and consequences and why we don't let the world run on pure emotion.  Ray Lewis is still playing because of a not guilty verdict. OJ was able to be in Las Vegas to get arrested because of a not guilty verdict.  How many of you out there think they were innocent? Vick was found guilty, served his time and by all laws and social standards has paid his time.  Sounds like some of you are OK if he works at a minimum wage job and cowers in the corner whenever anyone walks by.

I don't like this any better than most of you all do, but this is why we have laws, procedures and outcomes.  If we didn't and ran every case and outcome on emotion, there would be no standardization of rules and then all hell would break out.  My best friend is a very staunch Catholic who feels those that have been  divorced or have cheated on their spouse are not deserving of keeping their jobs or their social standing.  Are you willing to say that animal abuse is "better" or "worse" than adultery?  It all depends on where on the fence you sit.  This is why we have procedures in place to try stop emotional vigilante justice.


8/4/09
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srvntofjesus wrote:
i think you may need anti depressants, it;s not theat bad. i mean anomal shelters kill dogs everyday and i wonder how many of you run out and adopt every dog possible and give them a farm to run around on.  my guess none, so in the instance where thousands of animals are killed avery day you remain complacent. but when a man makes a mistake in life and does something such as he did, he then has no rights. animals are cool, they do tricks and stuff, they are friends and even family to others, they have rights, so why doesnt vick have the right to a second chance.
     a man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies.
Are you serious? The thousands of animals you speak of being killed daily are euthanized humanely and painlessly. They aren't hung from trees and electrocuted, drown, or bludgeoned to death. Even if dogs aren't human, they do feel pain and suffering. A man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies? Wow. Where does inhumane treatment of helpless fit in there?

8/4/09
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HE DEFINITELY DESERVES A 2ND CHANCE. I ENJOYED READING BOTH PROS AND CONS. BUT WHY ARE WE SO JUDGEMENTAL OF ONE ANOTHER?????? LET MIC PLAY.... AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN SOMEONE IS REMORSEFUL R NOT. HE DOES HAVE TO SPEAK UP FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS TO PROVE ANYTHING. I'M SURE HE WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING AS HUMANE KNOWING WHAT HE KNOWS NOW- PEOPLE SHOULD BE MORE FORGIVING


8/4/09
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ary201 wrote:
People are getting so worked up about this. Why aren't there posts about how easy Donte Stallworth got off?
He only killed a person not such a big deal.  

8/4/09
4
tevonjohnson1 wrote:
 Now if this was a white athlete would you downplay him the same or just blame it on him trying to fit in on the Hip-Hop culture. Would he still have the seek counseling and have a brain scan as well.
Doesn't matter where someone is from or what they look like it is what they do

8/4/09
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Lizzo wrote:
Are you serious? The thousands of animals you speak of being killed daily are euthanized humanely and painlessly. They aren't hung from trees and electrocuted, drown, or bludgeoned to death. Even if dogs aren't human, they do feel pain and suffering. A man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies? Wow. Where does inhumane treatment of helpless fit in there?
So i guess it's not the fact of being killed its all in how you do it which makes it so much better i understand kill gently if you are going to kill. Your point  of view like i said is ignorant, i am not justifying what he did but he deserves a second chance people do make mistakes except you i guess

8/4/09
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srvntofjesus wrote:
i think you may need anti depressants, it;s not theat bad. i mean anomal shelters kill dogs everyday and i wonder how many of you run out and adopt every dog possible and give them a farm to run around on.  my guess none, so in the instance where thousands of animals are killed avery day you remain complacent. but when a man makes a mistake in life and does something such as he did, he then has no rights. animals are cool, they do tricks and stuff, they are friends and even family to others, they have rights, so why doesnt vick have the right to a second chance.
     a man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies.
I think it is more important how you treat your friends than your enemies

8/4/09
1
I work at an animal shelter and the "No Kill" does not apply to pitbulls. I guess your another one thats ok with killing animals as long as you kill them correctly. This debate is so ignorant people are getting off for murders, rapes, DUI, and all sorts of things that harm PEOPLE in the NFL and were arguing over whether this man after going to prison and serving time should get a second chance i hope you stupid people on here never make a mistake. GOD forgives anyone remember that

8/4/09
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srvntofjesus wrote:
i think you may need anti depressants, it;s not theat bad. i mean anomal shelters kill dogs everyday and i wonder how many of you run out and adopt every dog possible and give them a farm to run around on.  my guess none, so in the instance where thousands of animals are killed avery day you remain complacent. but when a man makes a mistake in life and does something such as he did, he then has no rights. animals are cool, they do tricks and stuff, they are friends and even family to others, they have rights, so why doesnt vick have the right to a second chance.
     a man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies.
I am not depressed at all. Vick enjoyed killing them sadistically, the dogs never got a second chance.

8/4/09
1
Your an idiot and probably not the sharpest tool in the shed so i wont say much cause you cant even spell what your saying lol

8/4/09
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shuaib1382 wrote:
I work at an animal shelter and the "No Kill" does not apply to pitbulls. I guess your another one thats ok with killing animals as long as you kill them correctly. This debate is so ignorant people are getting off for murders, rapes, DUI, and all sorts of things that harm PEOPLE in the NFL and were arguing over whether this man after going to prison and serving time should get a second chance i hope you stupid people on here never make a mistake. GOD forgives anyone remember that
He enjoyed killing them it wasn't just a mistake. What do you know about god? Whatever you think you know about god more than half the world disagrees with you. So there a lot of people going around thinking they know something so important when at least half of them wrong about it if not all.

8/4/09
1
Lizzo wrote:
No, I can't say I have seen the inside of a prison cell. Most law abiding citizens don't. There is a saying that goes, "You can judge a society by the way they treat the most helpless members." You obviously don't love dogs as much as the next guy, because foolishly believe they do not deserve humane treatment because they are not human. By the way, Pavlov's experiment didn't prove that dogs have no rational thoughts. It proved that animals would salivate at the sound of a bell because they knew food was on the way. Guess what? You salivate, too, at the smell of certain foods. Vick does not deserve a second chance. He got his shot and blew it because the amount of money he was getting paid by the NFL wasn't enough for him. He threw it away without a second thought and then lied to prosecuters. My greatest hope is that if he comes back to the NFL he gets his ass knocked off and sustains a career ending injury.
Your an IDIOT.

8/4/09
1
jvuk1 wrote:
We should still have capital punishment. The world is overpopulated and humans are parasites. We have the ability to reason yet don't use it. I can't believe just how ignorant you people that defend him are.
I can tell your an idiot you need some valium.

8/4/09
1
jvuk1 wrote:
He enjoyed killing them it wasn't just a mistake. What do you know about god? Whatever you think you know about god more than half the world disagrees with you. So there a lot of people going around thinking they know something so important when at least half of them wrong about it if not all.
I know for a fact that all the major religions in the world based on facts tech that GOD is forgiving, your a nobody and you have no right to judge anyone. The same people who sent him to jail are the same ones that govern laws making it ok to euthanize these animals on a daily basis. You can call it what you want euthanization, putting dogs to sleep, fighting them intil death its all the same you moron. Or maybe dogs should be treated like humans cause obviously they have more sense than you.

8/4/09
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shuaib1382 wrote:
I know for a fact that all the major religions in the world based on facts tech that GOD is forgiving, your a nobody and you have no right to judge anyone. The same people who sent him to jail are the same ones that govern laws making it ok to euthanize these animals on a daily basis. You can call it what you want euthanization, putting dogs to sleep, fighting them intil death its all the same you moron. Or maybe dogs should be treated like humans cause obviously they have more sense than you.
Religion based on fact??? And i know that not all the major religions don't "tech" that "GOD" is forgiving. Do you know that if we don't change are evil ways that the earth will not be able to sustain future generations. More evil and suffering has been caused in the name of god than anything else in this world.

8/4/09
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Vick got off on some cheap punishment for what he did.  18 months in celebrity jail?  Please.  He should've been treated just like his dogs - beaten, hung from a tree, electrocuted.  We're talking about an utterly inhumane person here.  He doesn't deserve a second chance at playing in the NFL.  No one deserves more than one shot in the NFL.  If you can't conduct yourself appropriately and keep your dumb ass out of jail, you don't deserve a second shot at something that thousands never even have one shot at.  America is too forgiving to the famous.

8/4/09
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jvuk1 wrote:
Religion based on fact??? And i know that not all the major religions don't "tech" that "GOD" is forgiving. Do you know that if we don't change are evil ways that the earth will not be able to sustain future generations. More evil and suffering has been caused in the name of god than anything else in this world.
You are absolutely wrong. But getting you to see that seems to be a difficult task, it is also obvious that you have never made a mistake and you don't believe in GOD so to you i say good luck im a harvard grad me arguing with the likes of you is pointless. Obviously you dont agree with the laws of the land either because he served his time and payed his debt but i guess in your eyes no one is allowed to make a mistake and people cant change thats basically what your saying. I am glad to have met the first perfect human in the world and vick will be back in the NFL because obviously the majority like you say have more common sense and he will be signing with a team soon more than likely the pittsburgh steelers so at the the end of the day the GOOD side prevails and wins so no matter how you feel be prepared to see vick in the NFL and i hope he and his new team win the superbowl

8/4/09
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shuaib1382 wrote:
So i guess it's not the fact of being killed its all in how you do it which makes it so much better i understand kill gently if you are going to kill. Your point  of view like i said is ignorant, i am not justifying what he did but he deserves a second chance people do make mistakes except you i guess
Wow. Such venom. I never implied that I don't make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. I just don't classify willfully and inhumanely destroying a living thing in a cruel and horrible way a mistake. It was a choice. It was illegal, He did his time. He got out. That's his second chance. Doesn't mean he should get to come back to the NFL. The word ignorant means lack of knowledge of a situation. You know no more than I about the situation. We are stating opinions. Get a grip, Dude!

8/4/09
1
People forget america is one of the few places in the world where dogs are treated like people.

8/4/09
3
I hope people who are saying Vick should never work again because of what he did are also protesting how the meat companies inhumanely treat cattle, pigs, chickens, etc. Because what happens at your average meat packing plant is just as bad, if not worse, than how Vick treated dogs.

Just be consistent. I can dig it that you think he did something horrible and shouldn't be able to play, just also make sure that you aren't putting money in McDonald's pocket too since they are supporting inhumane treatment of animals, etc.

8/4/09
1
Lizzo wrote:
Are you serious? The thousands of animals you speak of being killed daily are euthanized humanely and painlessly. They aren't hung from trees and electrocuted, drown, or bludgeoned to death. Even if dogs aren't human, they do feel pain and suffering. A man is judged not on how he treats his friends, but how he treats his enemies? Wow. Where does inhumane treatment of helpless fit in there?
being killed is the same thing as euthanised, so where is your farm you still accept no view other than your own. a human is worth more than many dogs, as far as feelings go vick may also have some, but you dont care about that because as far as you are concerned he is less han an animal, apperantly with no rights

8/4/09
1
i wonder how people would feel, if when dogs were put to sleep, they could be used as feed like at a zoo, is that bad? because they would be HUMANELY put to sleep.

8/4/09
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jvuk1 wrote:
Doesn't matter where someone is from or what they look like it is what they do
Hope you have the same feelings if things change with the opposite race.

8/4/09
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(Edited by jvuk1)
Opposite race? People got to stop thinking like that. I think we are all part of the human race. After Claude Lemieux broke Kris Draper's face with a dirty from behind hit into the boards and put him out for the rest of the season he remarked that he did Detroit a favour because Draper is not a good player. If it was up to me he would never played another hockey game in his life. Nothing to do with him being French

8/4/09
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tevonjohnson1 wrote:
Hope you have the same feelings if things change with the opposite race.
Opposite race? People got to stop thinking like that. i think we are all part of the human race. After Claude Lemieux broke Kris Draper's face with a dirty from behind hit into the boards and put him out for the rest of the season he remarked that he did Detroit a favour because Draper is not a good player. If it was up to me he would never played another hockey game in his life. Nothing to do with him being French

8/4/09
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(Edited by jvuk1)
Being killed is not the same as being euthanised, he did it for fun

8/4/09
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srvntofjesus wrote:
being killed is the same thing as euthanised, so where is your farm you still accept no view other than your own. a human is worth more than many dogs, as far as feelings go vick may also have some, but you dont care about that because as far as you are concerned he is less han an animal, apperantly with no rights
Actually, I do have a farm in Missouri and I am active with an animal rescue. Irresponsible people who dump un spayed/unneutered pets create a problem that others have to deal with. Any intelligent person knows they can't all be saved. You are comparing apples to oranges. Breeding, training and then destroying in a cruel and grotesque manner animals without any conscience is what Vick did. I am sure Vick has feelings. I am sure he is regretful that he got caught. I am sure he is angry his dogfighting buddies rolled over on him. I am sure he is sad that he has had to take bankruptcy and give up that high life. He has a right to continue on with his life. He just doesn't deserve to be in the NFL.

8/4/09
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shuaib1382 wrote:
Your an IDIOT.
I am so glad you think so. To be understood by someone who can't express a thought without name calling and making it personal would be scary. What are you so angry about? That not everyone agrees with you on this point? Bet you are a great time at a party.........

8/4/09
5
shuaib1382 wrote:
I work at an animal shelter and the "No Kill" does not apply to pitbulls. I guess your another one thats ok with killing animals as long as you kill them correctly. This debate is so ignorant people are getting off for murders, rapes, DUI, and all sorts of things that harm PEOPLE in the NFL and were arguing over whether this man after going to prison and serving time should get a second chance i hope you stupid people on here never make a mistake. GOD forgives anyone remember that
It's very concerning that a person with your anger issues and views on animals being stupid, unintelligent, expendable in horrible ways is working in a shelter. Wow.

8/4/09
2
tevonjohnson1 wrote:
Hope you have the same feelings if things change with the opposite race.
Yeah thats true but why does everything have to be extra when bad things happen to black players. I have nothing against anybody it that justice is not always right and it doesn't please everybody, because if so we wouldn't be talking about how long is it going to take for a man to play football because of a bad entrepreneurial decision that backed fired. Everyone makes a mistake but y blow his out of proportion over illegal dog fights. Yes, he is a role model but so are the others who have used drugs to get ahead and are killing themselves.

8/4/09
4
shuaib1382 wrote:
You are absolutely wrong. But getting you to see that seems to be a difficult task, it is also obvious that you have never made a mistake and you don't believe in GOD so to you i say good luck im a harvard grad me arguing with the likes of you is pointless. Obviously you dont agree with the laws of the land either because he served his time and payed his debt but i guess in your eyes no one is allowed to make a mistake and people cant change thats basically what your saying. I am glad to have met the first perfect human in the world and vick will be back in the NFL because obviously the majority like you say have more common sense and he will be signing with a team soon more than likely the pittsburgh steelers so at the the end of the day the GOOD side prevails and wins so no matter how you feel be prepared to see vick in the NFL and i hope he and his new team win the superbowl
A Harvard Grad? Good one. I'd have to see the diploma to believe it. Vick may be back in the NFL. Didn't know having an opinion different than yours made me an atheist. Who knew? You have reached a new level of inane thought. Glad you are checking out on this one.

8/4/09
4
WhoDat12 wrote:
I will leave a comment about the article once I pick myself up off the floor from laughing at that picture.
The picture is hilarious I accidently pressed poor didn't mean to. Meant to hit funny sorry about that

8/4/09
3
jvuk1 wrote:
Opposite race? People got to stop thinking like that. i think we are all part of the human race. After Claude Lemieux broke Kris Draper's face with a dirty from behind hit into the boards and put him out for the rest of the season he remarked that he did Detroit a favour because Draper is not a good player. If it was up to me he would never played another hockey game in his life. Nothing to do with him being French
I know this is getting a little sidetracked but i just had to add this pic to that comment. I think it is stupid how fighting is basically allowed in the NHL. i think it sets a bad example for children about how to do deal with frustrations but i must admit I loved to watch the red wings punch him out after that.

8/5/09
3
I understand that Vick isn't respected for what he did but he did pay his time in jail and had all of his money stripped from him. We sit and talk about Vick doing a measly 18 monthes but Donte' Stallworth only got 30 days for KILLING A HUMAN.  While Plaxico Burress could get a minimun of 3 and 1/2 years for harming himself. I just don't see how the goverment can prove that the punishment fits the crime. The U.S. judicial system really has problems. If Michael Vick can get all the critcism and publicity for killing dogs why aren't we ranting and raving as much about Donte Stallworth.

8/5/09
3
Lizzo wrote:
A Harvard Grad? Good one. I'd have to see the diploma to believe it. Vick may be back in the NFL. Didn't know having an opinion different than yours made me an atheist. Who knew? You have reached a new level of inane thought. Glad you are checking out on this one.
Very true....LOL!  That's the thing about 'keyboard commandos', they can write anything they want without any fear of ramification other than being banned from the site.  Harvard graduate?  That individual doesn't even understand the rules of grammar and begins sentences with conjunctions.  (shakes head).....

Led Zepplin has a song to describe this sequence of conversation called: "Ramble On"...

8/5/09
5
kteacher wrote:
Nice write up Riley. I think children and animals are our most vulnerable so when people do the things Vick has done, I think it is unforgivable and scary.
It is a great write up. I noticed you lost a lot of points for this comment. They are so quick to forgive Vick for the atrocities he has committed but not so quick to forgive you and lot of others for expressing your opinion

8/5/09
0
jvuk1 wrote:
I think it is more important how you treat your friends than your enemies
read your bible, it isnt.

8/5/09
1
jvuk1 wrote:
It is a great write up. I noticed you lost a lot of points for this comment. They are so quick to forgive Vick for the atrocities he has committed but not so quick to forgive you and lot of others for expressing your opinion
you can have your opinion, but no matter what, it may be attrocious what happened, but it isnt an atrocity. it was a bad decision, and he went to jail. and a dog is no where near as important as a chil, or any other human for that matter. thats why they send in a police dog first. so he will be shot, not the cop. is that humane? of course it is, because of previous points made. see the dog thinks it is going to run in and go play, then "bam" is it cruel to train a dog to play and then put them in harms way?  yep!

8/5/09
0
bearsballin55 wrote:
I understand that Vick isn't respected for what he did but he did pay his time in jail and had all of his money stripped from him. We sit and talk about Vick doing a measly 18 monthes but Donte' Stallworth only got 30 days for KILLING A HUMAN.  While Plaxico Burress could get a minimun of 3 and 1/2 years for harming himself. I just don't see how the goverment can prove that the punishment fits the crime. The U.S. judicial system really has problems. If Michael Vick can get all the critcism and publicity for killing dogs why aren't we ranting and raving as much about Donte Stallworth.
true dat.

8/5/09
2
srvntofjesus wrote:
read your bible, it isnt.
How could it possibly be more important??? Hopefully most people don't even have enemies for those that do hopefully they spend more times with friends than enemies. 

8/5/09
2
jvuk1 wrote:
It is a great write up. I noticed you lost a lot of points for this comment. They are so quick to forgive Vick for the atrocities he has committed but not so quick to forgive you and lot of others for expressing your opinion
I got one too just for saying

8/5/09
2
NorseHeathen wrote:
Very true....LOL!  That's the thing about 'keyboard commandos', they can write anything they want without any fear of ramification other than being banned from the site.  Harvard graduate?  That individual doesn't even understand the rules of grammar and begins sentences with conjunctions.  (shakes head).....

Led Zepplin has a song to describe this sequence of conversation called: "Ramble On"...
Amen to that, Brother! I especially love the "keyboard commandos" that get on this site to berate everyone and their opinions without even taking the time to fill out the profile. I thought this was a site for sports fans to talk freely.

8/5/09
3
bearsballin55 wrote:
I understand that Vick isn't respected for what he did but he did pay his time in jail and had all of his money stripped from him. We sit and talk about Vick doing a measly 18 monthes but Donte' Stallworth only got 30 days for KILLING A HUMAN.  While Plaxico Burress could get a minimun of 3 and 1/2 years for harming himself. I just don't see how the goverment can prove that the punishment fits the crime. The U.S. judicial system really has problems. If Michael Vick can get all the critcism and publicity for killing dogs why aren't we ranting and raving as much about Donte Stallworth.
I know I am opening up another can of worms here, but I think Burress and Stallworth should be banned, too. (Oh, Lord! Here it comes........) I know they are talented athletes. I know they won't be banned. I know the majority of sports fans couldn't care less what players do off the field, but I do. Most people aren't commenting on the other 2 because this is an article pertaining specifically to Michael Vick.

8/5/09
1
look if i offended anyone SORRY ,   

8/5/09
0
justinedward wrote:
People forget america is one of the few places in the world where dogs are treated like people.
Yeah, and in half those other countries people aren't even treated like people.  Let's go by all those other countries, eh?

8/5/09
0
Wow this is nice what is this the first post ht has the most poor quality comments ever. Yes dogs are animals and human but you can always buy a new dog but what you can't do is buy a full grown man. Where is the post for Donte` Stallworth.  I thought we have a right called freedom of speech not everyone is going to like what you said then we have a lady comment on the most poorly qualified statement and gets an approval what the hell LOL.

8/5/09
2
srvntofjesus wrote:
look if i offended anyone SORRY ,   
I second that notion.

8/6/09
2
srvntofjesus wrote:
you can have your opinion, but no matter what, it may be attrocious what happened, but it isnt an atrocity. it was a bad decision, and he went to jail. and a dog is no where near as important as a chil, or any other human for that matter. thats why they send in a police dog first. so he will be shot, not the cop. is that humane? of course it is, because of previous points made. see the dog thinks it is going to run in and go play, then "bam" is it cruel to train a dog to play and then put them in harms way?  yep!
You have no heart

8/6/09
3
srvntofjesus wrote:
you can have your opinion, but no matter what, it may be attrocious what happened, but it isnt an atrocity. it was a bad decision, and he went to jail. and a dog is no where near as important as a chil, or any other human for that matter. thats why they send in a police dog first. so he will be shot, not the cop. is that humane? of course it is, because of previous points made. see the dog thinks it is going to run in and go play, then "bam" is it cruel to train a dog to play and then put them in harms way?  yep!
"but it isnt an atrocity. it was a bad decision"
Just a bad decision??? The consequences have greatly inconvenienced him. I am sure that this is how he feels too.
Life is a beautiful and glorious gift (where it came from I don't know, I know you think you do) dogs are such  innocent, loving and loyal creatures.To derive pleasure from the extinguishing of their lives in cruel and torturous manners is a lot more than just a bad mistake.
You are a cold and heartless person

8/6/09
0
jvuk1 wrote:
"but it isnt an atrocity. it was a bad decision"
Just a bad decision??? The consequences have greatly inconvenienced him. I am sure that this is how he feels too.
Life is a beautiful and glorious gift (where it came from I don't know, I know you think you do) dogs are such  innocent, loving and loyal creatures.To derive pleasure from the extinguishing of their lives in cruel and torturous manners is a lot more than just a bad mistake.
You are a cold and heartless person
and i can tell that you the kind of person that blames every dog attack on the owner.  not all dogs are cool!  and name calling only shows your intelligence level.   for your info.  im a youth pastor and in my off time i am am mission worker, i see people in a way that you can see how much more a persons life is than any animal thats all.   also vick is a man, and a bad decision is what it was.  if you wreck your car, then theirs a bad decision.  how about drinking and driving, how many athelets have one of those in their trophy case?
  those were bad decisions, even to premeditate and commit a crime can be considered a bad decision.

and YES, I do know where life comes from.  im a biotechnologist. look it up.    

8/6/09
2
(Edited by jvuk1)
As far as science is concerned there are only theories about that and I still believe you are a cold and heartless person, I don't think that is name calling either.

8/6/09
0
jvuk1 wrote:
As far as science is concerned there are only theories about that and I still believe you are a cold and heartless person, I don't think that is name calling either.
not all science is theory. also the only place I came from was the Lords house.  and i have seen life at molecular levels, no matter where it originted.   would you be as upset if vick detroyed thousands of cells with mouthwash. because their are living organisms in your mouth, do they have rights? if no why? and if no are you saying vick is in the same deservance of right to a productive life as those organisms you kill every day. twicw if you brush like you should.  dont get mad. k?  none of this is personal.  dont go and block the content please.   

8/7/09
2
(Edited by jvuk1)
I never said all science is theory but the answers to where life came from are all theoretical.

8/7/09
4
There are a lot of jobs that require someone to not have a criminal record. Playing football in the NFL is not just a job. It is a very high paying job in which you entertain the public and a lot of the public simply do not want to be entertained by him anymore. Pro athletes are idolized by children. Children  love (as do most adults) their pets and should not even be subjected to the knowledge of such heinous crimes.

8/7/09
0
wow this person who wrote this stupid article is retarded with a capital RRRRRRRRRR someone should revoke his writing privileges

8/10/09
1
It just amazes me how a person can get  page to write an entire article of trash. Everything that we talk about is  matter of opinion.  There is only one that can judge us.  Mike was convicted by a jury of his"peers" did his time. So as his peer, allow him to prove himself.  People act like this is the worst thing that man can do.  Animals are great I dont condone abuse to them most importantly a person either.  In sports it happens more  than you think.  Check yourself.  Good Day

8/31/09
0
hhope he dies a slow terrible death. I would love to do it myself

8/31/09
0
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