NASCAR Duels at Daytona [Live Thread]

Will Kenny Wallace race in the Daytona 500?

2/23/12 in NASCAR   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

The races are pretty serious for a few drivers, but for others it is simply an opportunity to draft with the Daytona 500 car.  Carl Edwards and Greg Biffle are locked into the front row and the only thing that could change that would be a car change or an engine change.  

We are all looking forward to some good racing today, but don't expect anyone who is locked in to be making too many rash decisions on the track.  None of the locked in drivers want to take a chance on wrecking their primary car, but those drivers who qualified poorly might chance a good finish up front in order to advance on the starting grid.  

With pack racing back, rather than the two car tango, chances for a wreck, especially "The Big One" are even more prevalent.  Teams are more likely to treat the race as more of a practice session than an actual race.  Of course, there are those drivers who need to race, who need to push for the front.  Kenny Wallace is one of those drivers (that's his car in the picture), as is Michael Waltrip (who is in the 40 car this year - 55 -15=40, go figure).  Last year's winner of the 500, Trevor Bayne, is already locked into the race, but if he races in to a better position, Kenny will automatically be locked in.  The hardest part for Kenny will be keeping the car clean and undamaged.  As was documented on Speed last night in "Chasing Daytona", Kenny only has one car.  He and RAB Racing purchased one of the speedway cars from Red Bull Racing, but they only got one car.  If something happens to the car in the Duel, Kenny will have nothing to drive in the big race.  No one wants to see that happen.

Of course, much is being made of Danica Patrick's race today.  Kyle Petty is being called a Danica hater on Twitter, simply because he said he will reserve judgement on her success in the series until she has run a few races.  Well, duh!  Danica is unlikely to be aggressive today.  Yes, she has had a few practice sessions and she has been in the Nationwide races on the Super Speedways, but this will be her first time in the big leagues at Daytona.    I imagine she will be trying to keep her race car clean while gaining that experience.  Will she lead the race? Possibly.  Will she win? Unlikely.  

One thing the teams shouldn't have to worry about today will be the overheating issue.  NASCAR allowed the teams to increase the PSI of the pop off valve from 25 to 28.  This will allow the engines to run a little hotter without blowing off the steam we saw during qualifying.  It should also allow the cars to run in a pack a little longer.  Whether it makes a huge difference will remain to be seen.

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2/27/12   |   crazyolfart2000   |   973 respect

SusanVette wrote:
I'm actually GOING to the Daytona 500 this year. I'm so excited!  :-)

Hope ya still got to get to the race after the cancellation due to rain. I didn't realize those snowballs carried that much water..sorry :( Hope you have a great time..I didn't throw and snowballs today :)

2/26/12   |   crazyolfart2000   |   973 respect

SusanVette wrote:
I'm actually GOING to the Daytona 500 this year. I'm so excited!  :-)

Enjoy the race Susan. I'll throw a few snowballs for ya here in Michigan :)

2/24/12   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

STEWART

2/24/12   |   SusanVette   |   8491 respect

I'm actually GOING to the Daytona 500 this year. I'm so excited!  :-)

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Canadianhick wrote:
Kenny Wallace:

I am forever Thankful to "YOU ALL" and my team @RAB_Racing for the effort they put into making the #Daytona500 ..We broke a fuel pump.

http://twitter.com/#!/Kenny_Wallace/status/172818884305502208

Just watched him on NASCAR Victory Lane.  He was so sad, but I think doing his "job" at reporting helped him.  Mikey is on TV now too, covering practice in the trucks

2/23/12   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

Kenny Wallace:

I am forever Thankful to "YOU ALL" and my team @RAB_Racing for the effort they put into making the #Daytona500 ..We broke a fuel pump.

http://twitter.com/#!/Kenny_Wallace/status/172818884305502208

2/23/12   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

Daytona 500 Starting Lineup.
1. Edwards
2. Biffle
3. Stewart
4. Kenseth
5. Earnhardt
6. Smith
7. Ambrose
8. Johnson
9. Burton
10. Sadler
11. McDowell
12. Logano
13. Harvick
14. Kyle Busch
15. Allmendinger
16. Jeff Gordon
17. Robby Gordon
18. Newman
19. McMurray
20. Kahne
21. Stenhouse
22. Martin
23. Keselowski
24. Blaney
25. Ragan
26.Truex
27. Almirola
28. Kurt Busch
29. Patrick
30. Bowyer
31. Hamlin
32. BobbyLabonte
33. Gilliland
34. Nemechek
35. Pablo Montoya
36. Mears
37. Menard
38. Reutimann
39. Cassill
40. Bayne
41. Raines
42. Stremme
43. Terry Labonte

The #10, #27, #38 and #42 team will all have to go to backup cars and have to start in the back. #18 is apparently changing the engine so they will have start in the back too.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Sometimes I really hate the top 35.  But no more so than at Daytona.  

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Canadianhick wrote:
What an absolutely stupid move by Biffle at the end. I can't quit laughing.

but you aren't surprised are you? I'm not.

2/23/12   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

What an absolutely stupid move by Biffle at the end. I can't quit laughing.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Cool to see Matt in Victory Lane with his kids.  Congrats to Joe and Dave for getting into the race.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Matt Kenseth and Jimmie Johnson hooked up and just about got to the front, Biffle blocked.  

Kenseth DID get the win, followed by Regan Smith, and Jimmie Johnson.  Biffle's block cost him and he finishes in 5th.

Kenny, we love you anyway.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

KuBu penalized for too fast through pit road, while KyBu reporting the front of his car "feels funny".  No caution yet in the race.  The Biff is leading with 7 to go.  

This race has been rather boring compared to the first one.

Kenny Wallace is laps down, and has Bill Elliott and Robert Richardson ahead of him, so only a miracle will get him into the 500.

Ryan Newman, my pick, is overheating and pushing water.  joe Nemechek will be in the race, along with Dave Blaney.  

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Heart breaker for Kenny.  Now it is at the point where he has to stay out on the track, even though he is having a hard time maintaining minimum speed, due to a fuel pick up problem.  His only hope is if one of the other transfer cars wrecks out and can't finish the race.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Kenny Wallace has lost the draft.  Chances for making it in are getting slimmer.  Need a caution so he can get caught up.  Just hoping it is a caution for debris, not for an accident.  I think he can do it if he can get back up there.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

(Edited by Debi_L)

Jenna Fryer Krista Voda is tweeting that David Gilliland cut his thumb on his wreck, seriously enough to need stitches.  Guess he didn't let go of the wheel, a la Danica..........

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
No, he said that IF Mikey is desperate to race in the Daytona 500, which he is, as he eats, sleeps, dreams Daytona 500, Robby would sell him the car and position to run.  Mikey is busy watching his drivers in the second Duel and tweeting about that.

Yeah, just saw that and edited my original post.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Eric_ wrote:
So I was happy that Robby Gordon made the race, but apparently he's sold willing to sell the ride to Michael Waltrip.

*sigh*

Edited to fix incorrect information

No, he said that IF Mikey is desperate to race in the Daytona 500, which he is, as he eats, sleeps, dreams Daytona 500, Robby would sell him the car and position to run.  Mikey is busy watching his drivers in the second Duel and tweeting about that.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

UGH, Kenny in 14th, one out of the transfer spot.  I'm sweating I'm so nervous for him.

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

So I was happy that Robby Gordon made the race, but apparently he's sold willing to sell the ride to Michael Waltrip.

*sigh*

Edited to fix incorrect information

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Kenny in the middle.  don't like that at all.  ARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

84F in Daytona - dayum I wish I were there.

Duel #2, heading to GREEN!

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Canadianhick wrote:
Here in time for Gatorade Duel #2, I'll take Kyle Busch to win Duel #2.

Martin Truex Jr. is my dark-horse pick for Duel #2.

I hope Kenny Wallace makes in too.

Glad you make it! My pick is Ryan Newman.  My dark horse is also Martin Truex Jr.  So many ways Kenny can get in.....here's hoping!

2/23/12   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

Here in time for Gatorade Duel #2, I'll take Kyle Busch to win Duel #2.

Martin Truex Jr. is my dark-horse pick for Duel #2.

I hope Kenny Wallace makes in too.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Letting go of the wheel is a pretty standard IndyCar practice, or else yeah, you're risking a broken wrist.

Yeah, sorry I didn't mention that part, that she learned that in IndyCar.  I know that's important to you wink

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Race number one is in the history books, with Tony Stewart taking his 17th victory at Daytona.  Dale Jr finishes second and will start 5th in the 500.  

Robby Gordon and Michael McDowell finish ahead of Trevor Bayne, so will race in the Daytona 500.

Kenny Wallace will have to race to get in.  

Race number 2 will start soon, but they may need to make some repairs to that SAFER barrier.

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Aric Almirola was forced down into Danica, who didn't have a chance.  Thank God the SAFER barrier has been put into place where it is, so all the energy was absorbed by the walls.  I have such new found respect for her.  She LET GO of the steering wheel, avoiding a possible broken wrist, arm, or shoulder when she knew she was going to hit and hit hard.  

The car is completely destroyed, but she walks away.  And she is locked into the race, so she'll get to do it all again on Sunday.

Letting go of the wheel is a pretty standard IndyCar practice, or else yeah, you're risking a broken wrist.

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

The SAFER barrier does its job again. That wreck gave me Greg Moore flashbacks. Not good.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Aric Almirola was forced down into Danica, who didn't have a chance.  Thank God the SAFER barrier has been put into place where it is, so all the energy was absorbed by the walls.  I have such new found respect for her.  She LET GO of the steering wheel, avoiding a possible broken wrist, arm, or shoulder when she knew she was going to hit and hit hard.  

The car is completely destroyed, but she walks away.  And she is locked into the race, so she'll get to do it all again on Sunday.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Danica has a HARD Awful hit in the inside wall, but she's okay.

Yellow came out on the final lap so Tony gets the win.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Smoke on the outside, Jr on the inside, Jr trying to side draft off Happy

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

3 to go and Stewart has the lead.  The young guns have jumped out to the outside and honestly there are cars everywhere. Jr goes to the lead

YAHOO!

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

We'll go back to green with 4 to go.  

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

A bunch of cars pitting for a few seconds of fuel.  Some grabbing tires.

Still feel horrible for Mikey.  He just wanted it so bad.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Caution is out with 8 laps to go.  Mikey pit for fuel then spun all by himself on the back stretch trying to get up onto the track off the apron.  

Mikey doesn't want to get out of his car.  The in car camera shows all too well how awful he feels.

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
NO!!! I love Pop Off Valve!! I'll give the stupid valve a different name.  From now on I'll call it a Blow out valve, okay?

No, it's OK. I just find it funny that it's suddenly the stock cars that have pop off valves, while IndyCars still don't have them even though they're going back to turbocharged engines.

Michael Waltrip? Uh....

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Mikey pits for fuel

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

(Edited by Debi_L)

A few of the Chevys are close on fuel.  Denny pitted under green, as did the 9 car.  Earnhardt told his spotter to tell Waltrip to go ahead, as he doesn't want to be obligated to work with anyone, however, they do seem to be running somewhat together....

the cars that pitted have almost caught the front pack cars.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Eric_ wrote:
So, I'm watching the race to take a break from studying, and well, the Duels annoy me because they should be awesome, but the top 35 rule and the convoluted rules that follow because of it make it almost meaningless. If everybody (or just about) had to race their way in? The Duels would be the most exciting races of the year.

Also, if stock cars have  pop off valves now, does the IndyCar blog of that name have to change its name? wink

NO!!! I love Pop Off Valve!! I'll give the stupid valve a different name.  From now on I'll call it a Blow out valve, okay?

2/23/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

So, I'm watching the race to take a break from studying, and well, the Duels annoy me because they should be awesome, but the top 35 rule and the convoluted rules that follow because of it make it almost meaningless. If everybody (or just about) had to race their way in? The Duels would be the most exciting races of the year.

Also, if stock cars have  pop off valves now, does the IndyCar blog of that name have to change its name? wink

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Well Jr has fallen to the back, and I think that's to stay out of any trouble that might develop between now and the end.  Just surprised Kevin Harvick isn't back there with him......he has Mikey and BK close by.  He has drafted successfully with both those dudes, so we'll see what happens.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Dale Jr hasn't wasted any time.  up to 9th...no 5th.....ah heck, he'll be at the front again soon.....

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

Back to green.  Lots of drivers made pit stops, and we restart on lap 14.  Dale Jr restarted at the back for a pit road error.  

Jamie McMurray is in the lead......for the moment.

2/23/12   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

So far, not too much excitement, other than the fact that we ARE racing, of course.  Dale Jr has taken the lead a couple of times.

We are under caution for a wreck involving David Gilliland, Juan Pablo Montoya and Paul Menard.  Brad Keselowski also involved.  Michael McDowell got into the back of Gilliland, just the slightest bit, and when Gilliland tried to correct his slide off the track, he took out the other two.