NASCAR in Sin City [Live Race Thread]

It's time to go racing in Sin City

3/10/13 in NASCAR   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Blog Photo - NASCAR in Sin City [Live Race Thread]All the drama over the Gen6 car, over Denny Hamlin's comments, over Jimmie Johnson saying Carl didn't start properly is done.  It's time to go racing in Sin City.

Toyota has had engine issues this year, and Toyota Racing Development has done some extensive testing to get the issue resolved.  Today will be the test to see if all the work has paid off.

We go into Las Vegas with Jimmie Johnson leading the points, and Dale Jr. only 8 behind, tied with Brad Keselowski.  Although Carl Edwards won the race last week, his finish at Daytona put him in a deep hole.  He gained 19 places in the standings, but still sits in 11th.  Denny Hamlin, who has said he will not pay the fine levied against him for speaking his mind about how the Gen6 car drives, sits in 4th, only 10 points back of Jr and Bad Brad. 

Denny has so far been adamant that he will take a suspension by NASCAR, rather than paying the fine.  Most have agreed with him, that it is a constitutional right to speak his mind.  He did not use profanity, he didn't say it was a piece of crap, the way Kyle Busch did, and he didn't say he couldn't drive it.  Instead, he simply said this:

 ''I don't want to be the pessimist, but it did not race as good as our generation five cars. This is more like what the generation five was at the beginning.''

Now anyone who knows me, knows I am not a Denny Hamlin fan, but what was so wrong with what Denny said?  That's what I don't understand.  He basically said what many others have been thinking - that the car needs work.

Even Darrell Waltrip has said that we need to give the car time.  He believes that many of the things we have all noticed and the drivers have had trouble with can be fixed.  His point is that the Gen6 car is already as good as the COT was after six years.  There was no more that could be done to improve the COT.  NASCAR was losing some of its most loyal fans.  They needed to do something.

No amount of testing is going to tell a driver or crew chief how a car will drive in traffic.  None.  It will take racing data for the crews to figure out what adjustments can be made to the car to make it drive better in racing conditions.

So, with that being said, let's go collect some data; let's go racing.
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3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Oh, OK. That makes more sense.

Time for Wind Tunnel with Robin Miller and James Hinchcliffe.

I know you love the show, but I can't stand Dave Despain.  I just want to stuff a sock in his mouth and kick him out of his chair.

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
He didn't blow it on purpose, far from it, but he let the team know that he over-revved the engine on the restart, and that likely caused the failure.

Oh, OK. That makes more sense.

Time for Wind Tunnel with Robin Miller and James Hinchcliffe.

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Sorry for the delay, I was watching the WBC. Here are the results for the whatever this race is called at Las Vegas:

1. Matt Kenseth
2. Kasey Kahne (fun battle for the win at the end)
3. Brad Keselowski
4. Kyle Busch (king of the restarts today)
5. Carl Edwards
6. Jimmie Johnson
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
8. Martin Truex Jr.
9. Kevin Harvick
10. Paul Menard (wait, what?)
11. Tony Stewart (where did he come from? wasn't he a lap down most of the day?)
12. Joey Logano
13. Jamie McMurray
14. Mark Martin
15. Denny Hamlin
16. Aric Almirola
17. Greg Biffle
18. Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
19. Juan Pablo Montoya
20. Kurt Busch -1 lap
21. Austin Dillon -1 lap
22. Marcos Ambrose -1 lap
23. Trevor Bayne -1 lap
24. Dave Blaney -1 lap
25. Jeff Gordon -1 lap
26. Jeff Burton -1 lap
27. Clint Bowyer -2 laps (those early handling problems ruined his race)
28. David Gilliand -2 laps
29 .Casey Mears -2 laps
30. Bobby Labonte -4 laps
31. David Ragan -4 laps
32. David Stremme -6 laps
33. Danica Patrick -6 laps (yes, this wasn't any good. I will say that coming from IndyCars, stock cars as loose as they were today is a huge adjustment. Cars that loose just don't exist there.)
34. David Reutimann -6 laps
35. Josh Wise -7 laps
36. J.J. Yeley -8 laps (MOAR DERP from the Random Number Generator)
37. Ken Schrader -9 laps
38. Ryan Newman -33 laps (did I understand you right Debi, that Newman blew the engine on purpose? why would you do that?)
39. Travis Kvapil -50 laps
40. Joe Nemechek -51 laps
41. Scott Speed -124 laps
42. Landon Cassill -201 laps
43. Michael McDowell -246 laps

He didn't blow it on purpose, far from it, but he let the team know that he over-revved the engine on the restart, and that likely caused the failure.

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Points Standings:

1. Jimmie Johnson 129
2. Brad Keselowski -4
3. Dale Earnhardt Jr. -10
4. Denny Hamlin -27
5. Carl Edwards -31
6. Mark Martin -34
7. Matt Kenseth -36
8. Greg Biffle -36
9. Clint Bowyer -40
10. Aric Almirola -41
11. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. -42
12. Paul Menard -47

Next three are Gordon, Kahne, and Logano. Kyle Busch is 17th, Stewart 18th, and Harvick 19th.

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Sorry for the delay, I was watching the WBC. Here are the results for the whatever this race is called at Las Vegas:

1. Matt Kenseth
2. Kasey Kahne (fun battle for the win at the end)
3. Brad Keselowski
4. Kyle Busch (king of the restarts today)
5. Carl Edwards
6. Jimmie Johnson
7. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
8. Martin Truex Jr.
9. Kevin Harvick
10. Paul Menard (wait, what?)
11. Tony Stewart (where did he come from? wasn't he a lap down most of the day?)
12. Joey Logano
13. Jamie McMurray
14. Mark Martin
15. Denny Hamlin
16. Aric Almirola
17. Greg Biffle
18. Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
19. Juan Pablo Montoya
20. Kurt Busch -1 lap
21. Austin Dillon -1 lap
22. Marcos Ambrose -1 lap
23. Trevor Bayne -1 lap
24. Dave Blaney -1 lap
25. Jeff Gordon -1 lap
26. Jeff Burton -1 lap
27. Clint Bowyer -2 laps (those early handling problems ruined his race)
28. David Gilliand -2 laps
29 .Casey Mears -2 laps
30. Bobby Labonte -4 laps
31. David Ragan -4 laps
32. David Stremme -6 laps
33. Danica Patrick -6 laps (yes, this wasn't any good. I will say that coming from IndyCars, stock cars as loose as they were today is a huge adjustment. Cars that loose just don't exist there.)
34. David Reutimann -6 laps
35. Josh Wise -7 laps
36. J.J. Yeley -8 laps (MOAR DERP from the Random Number Generator)
37. Ken Schrader -9 laps
38. Ryan Newman -33 laps (did I understand you right Debi, that Newman blew the engine on purpose? why would you do that?)
39. Travis Kvapil -50 laps
40. Joe Nemechek -51 laps
41. Scott Speed -124 laps
42. Landon Cassill -201 laps
43. Michael McDowell -246 laps

3/10/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

Not a bad race,,, The new car did well .. Some teams got it figured out and some are still trying...Enough passing on a wide open track...who knows.. next week on to some short track racing...better not have a loose car there... good day all...

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Canadianhick wrote:
Anyone remember that finish between Matt Kenseth and Kasey Kahne had for the win at Rockingham in February 2004? That's likely one the best finishes of the past decade people forget about.

I think Jack Roush made a huge mistake in letting Matt Kenseth go. Anyway awesome to see Matt Kenseth win on his birthday!

I don't remember that specific race, but I sure remember a lot of great, close finish races at the Rock.  

3/10/13   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

Anyone remember that finish between Matt Kenseth and Kasey Kahne had for the win at Rockingham in February 2004? That's likely one the best finishes of the past decade people forget about.

I think Jack Roush made a huge mistake in letting Matt Kenseth go. Anyway awesome to see Matt Kenseth win on his birthday!

3/10/13   |   JenX63   |   32821 respect

Gibbs Racing got it figured out when it mattered. Congrats to Matt!

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

HAPPY F***ING BIRTHDAY MATT!!!!!

WTG boys, that was AWESOME!

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Stremme think he's gonna be part of this?? He might be when someone gives him a good swift kick in the ass

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Top two sure checked out quickly.

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Feel bad for Newman blowing up, but glad because Montoya got the free pass (I know, I don't like it, but hey, it's there and I can't do anything about it, so I might as well be happy for my guy).

Newman did that, by his own admission.  It sucks, but he owned up to it.  And I'm glad Montoya got a pass, because he actually was very fast early on.  

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Feel bad for Newman blowing up, but glad because Montoya got the free pass (I know, I don't like it, but hey, it's there and I can't do anything about it, so I might as well be happy for my guy).

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

LMAO I just read someone's post on FB "Go ahead and pit Danica!! It's not like you're up there with the leaders or anything!"

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

The parts I've seen actually haven't been terrible. This year is definitely an engineering battle as they try and figure out the cars. Today it's all about driving them when it's loose as hell.

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Guess I didn't miss a lot (except I should really not jog outside).

3/10/13   |   JenX63   |   32821 respect

Side by side racing seems doable here. This car puts me in mind of the Gen5 car. Why was the COT introduced? Seems they are going back to the roots again!
I do like the looks of the car on the mile and half, can't wait til next weeks race.

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Time to enjoy this beautiful day by subjecting myself to the pain of jogging. I'll be back for the end (while watching the US-Canada WBC game).

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Oh dear! Danica is two laps down!

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Nice to hear them giving Sam Hornish Jr some credit!  I saw highlights and damn he was fast!  A well deserved win yesterday!

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Is this a debris caution, or a too many cars down a lap caution? wink

NASCAR ----> angel

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Is this a debris caution, or a too many cars down a lap caution? wink

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Penalty for Kyle Busch too fast on section one entering the pits.  Pass thru penalty

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Sorry Debi, I guess we are on the same page with the Hamlin thing. I read between the lines earlier, and was dead wrong.

Meanwhile, the Random Number Generator pulled 35, which is....J.J. Yeley. Dang.

LOL I think you need a new technique

And I still don't like Denny, but I saw nothing wrong with his comments

3/10/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Sorry Debi, I guess we are on the same page with the Hamlin thing. I read between the lines earlier, and was dead wrong.

Meanwhile, the Random Number Generator pulled 35, which is....J.J. Yeley. Dang.

3/10/13   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

orangemen90 wrote:
The thing about the car is that there is no data... The teams are number crunchers.., The car is what it is... but lets go racing ...

Yep, they need to collect more data, so they know what adjustments they can make.

I'm still kind of shocked at the rain washing the practices out LOL

3/10/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

The thing about the car is that there is no data... The teams are number crunchers.., The car is what it is... but lets go racing ...