NCAA Football Week 15: SEC Championship Florida vs Alabama And Other Early Games | NCAAF | Florida Gators

0	AndiLee0388 wrote: There are other games??? Oh yah the pesky little OK v Mizzou..LOL We'll have the later games in another thread later on, including OU-Mizzou, Cincy-Hawaii, etc.

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0	florida will sadly win

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0	Pat wrote: We'll have the later games in another thread later on, including OU-Mizzou, Cincy-Hawaii, etc. TY for the info

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1	All I know is that I hope UCLA beats USC, Florida beats Bama, and Mizzou beat OU. I'd love to watch the BCS try and figure that **** out.

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evilgenius328 wrote:

All I know is that I hope UCLA beats USC, Florida beats Bama, and Mizzou beat OU. I'd love to watch the BCS try and figure that **** out.

Easy... Oregon State gets a Rose Bowl bid vs Penn State, Texas and Florida play for the National Championship, Utah will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl goes to Cincy and the winner of BC/Va Tech, and then the Fiesta bowl will likely be Ohio State and Oklahoma.

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1	Go Navy!

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1	Pitt punts, Uconn gets their 1st possession

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0	Uconn is driving with a good running game.

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Seth

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evilgenius328 wrote:

All I know is that I hope UCLA beats USC, Florida beats Bama, and Mizzou beat OU. I'd love to watch the BCS try and figure that **** out.

Texas-Florida NC

Cincy, BC/VT winner, PSU, Missouri, Oregon State (I believe by tiebreaker) autobids

Utah and Alabama at large

Oklahoma/Texas Tech screwed by the 2 team per conference rule

USC or Ohio State get the other at large because they sell more tickets and get more tv viewers so Boise sits home too.

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0	Play action pass is incomplete for Uconn.

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0	Delay of game agaisnt UConn

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0	Another dropped pass

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Seth

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Pat wrote:

Easy... Oregon State gets a Rose Bowl bid vs Penn State, Texas and Florida play for the National Championship, Utah will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl goes to Cincy and the winner of BC/Va Tech, and then the Fiesta bowl will likely be Ohio State and Oklahoma.

In that scenario Missouri has the autobid so Oklahoma is out. And a 2-loss USC likely knocks a 2-loss OSU out of the Fiesta because of that little head-to-head thing.
Which is why I'm rooting for USC to beat UCLA, because that would keep Ohio State in the Fiesta, likely against Texas.

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1	Check out army' s uniforms, wow.

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0	Win and Cover NAVY

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Seth wrote:

In that scenario Missouri has the autobid so Oklahoma is out. And a 2-loss USC likely knocks a 2-loss OSU out of the Fiesta because of that little head-to-head thing.
Which is why I'm rooting for USC to beat UCLA, because that would keep Ohio State in the Fiesta, likely against Texas.

Oh damn, that's true, I totally forgot about that.

Either way, the BCS isn't terribly hard to figure out.

You don't think USC would pay a bigger price if they lost to UCLA? That would be a pretty bad loss this late in the season, and it seems like the BCS would slaughter them for it.

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Seth

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Pat wrote:

Oh damn, that's true, I totally forgot about that.

Either way, the BCS isn't terribly hard to figure out.

You don't think USC would pay a bigger price if they lost to UCLA? That would be a pretty bad loss this late in the season, and it seems like the BCS would slaughter them for it.

If it weren't for the head-to-head, Ohio State would be an easy choice over them (and not beacuse I'm a fan). They are a big name, travel great, and the Fiesta Bowl is their second home, plus USC traditionally doesn't travel very well.
I guess the selection comittee might take OSU anyways if they don't think USC fans will spend as much money, but I'm sure people would complain.

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0	RainMan wrote: Check out army' s uniforms, wow. Both uni's are pretty sweet.

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gobigblue1960

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Pat wrote:

Easy... Oregon State gets a Rose Bowl bid vs Penn State, Texas and Florida play for the National Championship, Utah will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl goes to Cincy and the winner of BC/Va Tech, and then the Fiesta bowl will likely be Ohio State and Oklahoma.

Pat, only Alabama deserves to go to the National Title game, not Florida. Teaxas, Oklahoma,Penn St., USC, Texas Tech, and yes, Utah, should go over a team from the overrated SEC. This SO-CALLED national semi-final is ridiculous, because, on the field, Florida lost @home, the so called "swamp", trailing the whole 4th qtr. Somehow, the SEC teams always seem to slither, like the BCS snakes they are, just like 2-loss LSU last year.....GREAT...another joke of a day that is the BCS!

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Pat wrote:

Easy... Oregon State gets a Rose Bowl bid vs Penn State, Texas and Florida play for the National Championship, Utah will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl goes to Cincy and the winner of BC/Va Tech, and then the Fiesta bowl will likely be Ohio State and Oklahoma.

I know that is the direction that they WOULD go, but it would further tarnish the reputation of the BCS. Texas did not even earn the right to play for their conference title, yet they get to play for a national title? Florida would be the obvious choice as SEC champions, but I think that it becomes extremely complicated beyond that. How would the BCS be apt to put either Texas or Texas Tech in the title game when neither played for their conference championship? How could the BCS then ignore the likes of Utah, Boise St, or Penn St in determining who is most worth to compete for a national title?

In this scenario, I think that the arguement about strength of schedule should get thrown out of the window. Because in this scenario, 3 rightful conference champions lose out to a team that didn't even earn the right to compete for their conference championship.

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0	Supposedly Percy Harvin is out tonight.

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gobigblue1960 wrote:

Pat, only Alabama deserves to go to the National Title game, not Florida. Teaxas, Oklahoma,Penn St., USC, Texas Tech, and yes, Utah, should go over a team from the overrated SEC. This SO-CALLED national semi-final is ridiculous, because, on the field, Florida lost @home, the so called "swamp", trailing the whole 4th qtr. Somehow, the SEC teams always seem to slither, like the BCS snakes they are, just like 2-loss LSU last year.....GREAT...another joke of a day that is the BCS!

Umm, did you read what Pat's post was in response to? It was if Florida beats Bama..You think with Bama's crap schedule and 1 loss is warranted still for the NC game?

12/6/08

0	Navy now up 24-0, and once again, the 4th quarter will be all about tradition and the bravery of the players.

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gobigblue1960

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Chief_aka_James wrote:

Umm, did you read what Pat's post was in response to? It was if Florida beats Bama..You think with Bama's crap schedule and 1 loss is warranted still for the NC game?

Yes, i understand that. My point is this "National Semifinal" terminology. Alabama isn't the point, my point is that the Gators don't belong in the game period. USC, TEXAS, TTECH,PENN ST. have just a place in the game , as does UNDEFEATED UTAH, over Flodida. The BCS is stupid becaues it's alawys going to give any 1-loss SEC team a break, a forgiveness over any other 1-loss team in the COUNTRY, and that is UNFAIR. If Folrida wins and is allowed in the game, it is more proof that what the BCS really stands for is The SEC Chapionship Invitational, unless we at the BCS can figure out a way to just play anothe conference team....bottom line...give me a break, the BCS mess just continues on, and on, and on...

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gobigblue1960 wrote:

Yes, i understand that. My point is this "National Semifinal" terminology. Alabama isn't the point, my point is that the Gators don't belong in the game period. USC, TEXAS, TTECH,PENN ST. have just a place in the game , as does UNDEFEATED UTAH, over Flodida. The BCS is stupid becaues it's alawys going to give any 1-loss SEC team a break, a forgiveness over any other 1-loss team in the COUNTRY, and that is UNFAIR. If Folrida wins and is allowed in the game, it is more proof that what the BCS really stands for is The SEC Chapionship Invitational, unless we at the BCS can figure out a way to just play anothe conference team....bottom line...give me a break, the BCS mess just continues on, and on, and on...

I'm not saying it's right... I'm just saying that's the way it is.

I agree with everything you're saying. There's absolutely no way to say that Florida is any better than any other 1-loss team in the country, except perhaps Ball State.

I understand the concept behind the BCS, and in some ways, it really is an incredible system for ranking teams. It really is. But it's not incredible enough to be the entire basis behind the championship.

12/6/08

0	Uconn has self destructed.

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0	Washington-Cal about to start, and it will get UGLY!!!!

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0	RainMan wrote: Washington-Cal about to start, and it will get UGLY!!!! Nothing can get uglier than the Crapple Bowl.

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Nothing can get uglier than the Crapple Bowl. This ACC title game is pretty bad... and it is Crapple Cup

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: This ACC title game is pretty bad... and it is Crapple Cup bowl, cup, ramekin, all the same..

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0	Since I don't read all the posts before I post, Urban Myer said that Harvin probably won't play tonight.

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gobigblue1960 wrote:

Yes, i understand that. My point is this "National Semifinal" terminology. Alabama isn't the point, my point is that the Gators don't belong in the game period. USC, TEXAS, TTECH,PENN ST. have just a place in the game , as does UNDEFEATED UTAH, over Flodida. The BCS is stupid becaues it's alawys going to give any 1-loss SEC team a break, a forgiveness over any other 1-loss team in the COUNTRY, and that is UNFAIR. If Folrida wins and is allowed in the game, it is more proof that what the BCS really stands for is The SEC Chapionship Invitational, unless we at the BCS can figure out a way to just play anothe conference team....bottom line...give me a break, the BCS mess just continues on, and on, and on...

There have been 10 BCS Title games (7 as bowls, 3 as the BCS NCG). An SEC team has featured in four of those games. The SEC team won each one by an average of two touchdowns. The BCS sucks, but given precedent, the SEC shows up on the big stage. Period.

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2	Anyone else sick of this pregame show on CBS and how they are head over heals in love with Tebow and how the SEC has amazing defenses? It never occurred to them that the SEC teams are terrible on offense except for Florida and I guess Alabama.

12/6/08

0	Alabama is far from great on offense. They have a solid run game, but Parker Wilson is far from being considered a threat in the passing game. They use the pass to divert away from the run, and Parker Wilson manages the game well enough to keep the run successful. That's far from having a solid offense.

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Jubanator14 wrote:

Anyone else sick of this pregame show on CBS and how they are head over heals in love with Tebow and how the SEC has amazing defenses?

It never occurred to them that the SEC teams are terrible on offense except for Florida and I guess Alabama.

Hahahaha.

On a more serious note to your second sentence -- that's why I'd like to see a Big 12/SEC Challenge. Even though I kiss the SEC's ass, I'm not delusional. The Big 12 is just as good, albeit in a different way (as you pointed out, defense vs. offense). I'd love to watch the two conferences clash. Such a difference in playing styles. Tell me that wouldn't be great for college football (and moreover, put that stupid ACC/Big Ten Challenge in NCAABB out of its misery, because ESPN would have to cancel its contract with the thing out of shame).

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0	Geezus. The game hasn't started yet and there are already a bunch of numnuts in here trashing the SEC?

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TheBigThree wrote:

Hahahaha.

On a more serious note to your second sentence -- that's why I'd like to see a Big 12/SEC Challenge. Even though I kiss the SEC's ass, I'm not delusional. The Big 12 is just as good, albeit in a different way (as you pointed out, defense vs. offense). I'd love to watch the two conferences clash. Such a difference in playing styles. Tell me that wouldn't be great for college football (and moreover, put that stupid ACC/Big Ten Challenge in NCAABB out of its misery, because ESPN would have to cancel its contract with the thing out of shame).

Yeah I'd love to see a Big12/SEC football challenge but as we all know, most SEC teams don't like to travel more than 50 miles to play a non conference game

. I know there are a few bowl matchups between SEC and Big 12 teams so we will get a few of those this bowl season. The best will be when OU beat Alabama in the National Championship.

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0	tpowell25 wrote: Geezus. The game hasn't started yet and there are already a bunch of numnuts in here trashing the SEC? The SEC sucks. A lot. I just wanna see a good game.. with 'Bama winning.

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1	tpowell25 wrote: Geezus. The game hasn't started yet and there are already a bunch of numnuts in here trashing the SEC? Hey...I've been trashing the SEC, except for Bama and Florida, all season.

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0	Why does this game seem like it will never start?

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evilgenius328 wrote:

Alabama is far from great on offense. They have a solid run game, but Parker Wilson is far from being considered a threat in the passing game. They use the pass to divert away from the run, and Parker Wilson manages the game well enough to keep the run successful. That's far from having a solid offense.

You take the hot with the cold when it comes to Wilson. He incinerated Georgia. Yet he looked like a high schooler against -- of all teams -- Kentucky, though UK's defense was, once upon a time, very good this season. I'm interested to see how 'Bama stands up to Fla's speed outside the hash marks.

12/6/08

0	I like how Florida has the best rushing attack in the SEC, yet Teboner is the only one who gets any credit.

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1	Tim Tebow moves mountains with his pinky finger.

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0	Well, that was a nice drive..Bama plan on playing anytime soon?

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1	This might be a long day, ladies and gentlemen.

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0	I just got in the door what happened and is Percy playing??

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0	Damn... that sucked.

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0	AndiLee0388 wrote: I just got in the door what happened and is Percy playing?? No, he is not.

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0	oh that stellar 'Bama offense wil have to come back...Good Luck John Parker

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2	And this is why JPW can be dangerous. Julio Jones is freaking awesome. He's the next Reggie Wayne + muscle.

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0	Wow...that was a quick response.

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0	tpowell25 wrote: This might be a long day, ladies and gentlemen. Or not.

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0	Now we got a ball game

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0	Javid Best havin a nice day for Cal, of course they are playing Washington, but still

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0	YEAH....OVER!!!!!!!! Keep Scorin!!!!

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ILoveSmoke

0	AndiLee0388 wrote: There are other games??? Oh yah the pesky little OK v Mizzou..LOL Um not pesky....GO MIZZOU!!!! LOL

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0	Pat wrote: Easy... Oregon State gets a Rose Bowl bid vs Penn State, Texas and Florida play for the National Championship, Utah will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl goes to Cincy and the winner of BC/Va Tech, and then the Fiesta bowl will likely be Ohio State and Oklahoma. that would not be a very good day for Ohio St. and if UCLA beats USC I will eat my Hat (Again)

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0	(Edited by AndiLee0388) ILoveSmoke wrote: Um not pesky....GO MIZZOU!!!! LOL TY for the play by play Mel..I am still playing catch up on the other scores from today

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0	Should've known to expect big offense when the game is expected to be all defense

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0	derms33 wrote: that would not be a very good day for Ohio St. and if UCLA beats USC I will eat my Hat (Again) I am thinkin USC will pull this one out!!

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0	Even though we've seen two quick strikes, I still think this game will be decided with defense. Meyer and Saban know how to make adjustments and they have the athletes to carry them out. No way Jones gets loose like that again for the rest of this game. 'Bama will tackle more sure-handedly as the game progresses.

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0	Jahvid Best...186 and 3 tds at half

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0	I had Florida winning and crushing the spread...but as I said on the TV poll, somehow it was changed to me picking Bama +8...If Alabama does happen to win it, and I get a square...I don't know who to thank exactly.

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: I had Florida winning and crushing the spread...but as I said on the TV poll, somehow it was changed to me picking Bama +8...If Alabama does happen to win it, and I get a square...I don't know who to thank exactly. You thank yourself for getting lucky enough to win a square.

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0	Florida has been pretty good at defending the run right now, but the passing attack is giving them some trouble.

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0	Bama has done a hell of a job taking neutralizing Florida's special teams thus far. Florida is not being able to play field position football like they have grown accustomed to, and it will be interesting to see how they respond.

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0	(Edited by AndiLee0388) The gators offense has carried the team this season ( dont shoot me..LOL) so I agree, for them to have to play field position is an entirely new concept! All I wanted was a real game and, Bama is obliging!!

12/6/08

0	Florida really need Harvin.

12/6/08

0	Its amazing how average Tebow looks against a real defense. Of course, its actually way too early for me to make that statement, but oh well.

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4	Everytime they talk about special teams, all I can think of is that Simpsons episode when Ralph got put on special teams and he said "I'm Special!"

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1	kantwistaye wrote: Its amazing how average Tebow looks against a real defense. Of course, its actually way too early for me to make that statement, but oh well. Or what Florida looks like against a team that actually can play offense

12/6/08

taylordanley

1	unless tebow plans on running for his own passes florida is missing harvin greatly right now.

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kantwistaye wrote:

Its amazing how average Tebow looks against a real defense.

Of course, its actually way too early for me to make that statement, but oh well.

Actually, as a TT fan, I agree. Hence my comment on the "Should he go pro" thread. He has major talent, but is slow outta the pocket, has some hesitation issues, and he cannot be the "whole" team. He needs more seasoning and needs to be planted on his butt a few more times...

LOL..JUST NOT TODAY!!

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: Everytime they talk about special teams, all I can think of is that Simpsons episode when Ralph got put on special teams and he said "I'm Special!" You win the thread.

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0	IS VT still kicking BC's butt..I cant find the game????

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1	AndiLee0388 wrote: IS VT still kicking BC's butt..I cant find the game???? Because it ended about an hour ago.

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1	I nominate Nick Saban for the Steve and Doug Butabi "Trying Too Hard" Award. I -- I as in me -- could see that fake coming. I've never played a down of organized ball in my life.

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Because it ended about an hour ago. Good reason..now how about an answer??

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0	AndiLee0388 wrote: Good reason..now how about an answer?? VT won 30-12.

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0	AndiLee0388 wrote: Good reason..now how about an answer?? Yea, I was getting to that...final was 30-12 VT.

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1	TheBigThree wrote: I nominate Nick Saban for the Steve and Doug Butabi "Trying Too Hard" Award. I -- I as in me -- could see that fake coming. I've never played a down of organized ball in my life. Bama was clearly in control of the game before that too. Didn't make any sense to do that in that situation.

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0	AndiLee0388 wrote: Good reason..now how about an answer?? 30-12, there is the scoredboard at the very top of the page.

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0	Anyone else see that hold?

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: 30-12, there is the scoredboard at the very top of the page. Thank you I guess, seeing as I have only been here a few days I missed that..Preciate it!

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Yea, I was getting to that...final was 30-12 VT. LOL..Have patience with this grasshoppa folks...LOL

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ILoveSmoke

0	I made it back..

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0	ILoveSmoke wrote: I made it back.. Just in time to see me be a moron..LOL

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0	ILoveSmoke wrote: I made it back.. I didn't know you left..

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0	You're planet??? Keanu Reeves, delivering each line with ~~way too over the top~~ utter conviction since Bill & Ted.

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0	Jahvid Best...311 yards and 4 tds

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0	In other news, Michigan is taking Duke to the wire, up two possessions with 40 ticks left. I'm impressed with Coach B.

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7	(Edited by Jubanator14) TheBigThree wrote: In other news, Michigan is taking Duke to the wire, up two possessions with 40 ticks left. I'm impressed with Coach B.

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: + eleventy billion.

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0	Watching this halftime thing..."You throw like a girl!!"

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0	Since halftime usually sucks, time to flip to FX and watch Batman Begins.

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1	I feel conflicted at the half. I'm pissed that we're losing, but I'm happy that Florida isn't drilling us in the ass so far. Is that wrong?

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0	tpowell25 wrote: I feel conflicted at the half. I'm pissed that we're losing, but I'm happy that Florida isn't drilling us in the ass so far. Is that wrong? Not at all. It is great news for those Texas fans who want another shot at OU.

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0	tpowell25 wrote: I feel conflicted at the half. I'm pissed that we're losing, but I'm happy that Florida isn't drilling us in the ass so far. Is that wrong? ROTFLMBO I'm pissed we have looked like Ned and the first reader

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: Not at all. It is great news for those Texas fans who want another shot at OU. lol....yea, that won't happen. Close game does not = bad game by Florida.

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1	tpowell25 wrote: lol....yea, that won't happen. Close game does not = bad game by Florida. True, but if you look at the complete body of work, Texas' season was still better than Florida's, even if the Gators win this one. More quality wins, a MUCH better loss... it's really not even close. Florida will probably still get the nod, but it won't neecessarily be because they deserve it more.

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tpowell25 wrote:

lol....yea, that won't happen. Close game does not = bad game by Florida.

If Florida, Texas, and OU all split the human vote, computers go with the Big 12 season dominance.

The crazy thing is it could all come down to the Cincinnati vs Hawaii game to see if Florida or Texas has the higher computer rating. Hawaii losing hurts Florida since they beat them and would help Texas since OU beat Cincinnati.

12/6/08

0	I like how Saban talked to the camera guy and not the sideline reporter. It was nice of him to address all of us at home, but just looked kinda funny.

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0	That was a dumb choice to field that.

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0	Arenas clinches LVP of the game.

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1	Just because the CBS guys are in love with Tebow and won't stop talking about Tebow doesn't mean he is in the Heisman conversation like they think. It just means the CBS guys only talk about how Tebow is the greatest QB ever in the history of all College Football of all time forever.

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Pat wrote:

True, but if you look at the complete body of work, Texas' season was still better than Florida's, even if the Gators win this one. More quality wins, a MUCH better loss... it's really not even close. Florida will probably still get the nod, but it won't neecessarily be because they deserve it more.

I gotta agree, and that sucks Texas had a tougher schedule.. Our 1 loss was pitiful and never shoulda happened. But, tell that same thing to Ball State..LOL

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0	Just think how great Julio Jones would be if he had gone to OU like he should have

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0	This question is mostly for Tom, but where is Alabama without Julio Jones? Wilson only seems truly confident when he's throwing to Jones.

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Jubanator14 wrote:

Just because the CBS guys are in love with Tebow and won't stop talking about Tebow doesn't mean he is in the Heisman conversation like they think. It just means the CBS guys only talk about how Tebow is the greatest QB ever in the history of all College Football of all time forever.

OUCH..LOL. Personally, I give CBS very little credibility, but as much as ya'll love to hate on Tebow, the kid has talent, has worked his butt off,and if you could look me in the eye and tell me he doesn't deserve the accolades he gets, I will call ya a liar..LOL
He isnt the be all, end all, and needs seasoning, but he IS an amazing talent!

Then again so is Colt...I would like to see the Heissman go to Tebow again just cos I like him and that's history, but I am wondering what the percentage of QB Heissman wins,( I am google challenged.lol) to other positions is..I think sometimes the QB's are concentrated on more because they are so much in the forefront, and that there are many other positions that need more consideration than they get.

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0	SO nananana boo boo..LOL

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0	Too much football and movies, I haven't eaten anything... Time to make some gnocchi.

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Pat wrote:

True, but if you look at the complete body of work, Texas' season was still better than Florida's, even if the Gators win this one. More quality wins, a MUCH better loss... it's really not even close. Florida will probably still get the nod, but it won't neecessarily be because they deserve it more.

I disagree. The fact that Florida wins their conference championship game makes them more deserving than Texas. Not just because they might win the game, but with their record and ranking, winning the SEC title game makes them more deserving than the Longhorns.

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0	Bama adjusted that offense, but Meyer hasnt compensated on D...WTH

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0	kantwistaye wrote: This question is mostly for Tom, but where is Alabama without Julio Jones? Wilson only seems truly confident when he's throwing to Jones. Absolutely lost. JP Wilson might manage a game well, but he isn't good enough to carry a team at all. Having Jones has won 3 games this year, just on presence alone.

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tpowell25 wrote:

I disagree. The fact that Florida wins their conference championship game makes them more deserving than Texas. Not just because they might win the game, but with their record and ranking, winning the SEC title game makes them more deserving than the Longhorns.

I think in a normal year that works, but Texas was just as deserving to be in the Big XII title game, but wasn't given the opportunity.

12/6/08

0	I have the USC-UCLA game on the second tv here and not paying too much attention to it, but both teams (the whole team) were on the field in a scuffle of sorts.

12/6/08

0	kantwistaye wrote: I have the USC-UCLA game on the second tv here and not paying too much attention to it, but both teams (the whole team) were on the field in a scuffle of sorts. Question about that game...I thought that if USC had the red uni's, they would lose one timeout per half...right now, they still have 3. Did they change the ruling and I just missed it?

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

OUCH..LOL. Personally, I give CBS very little credibility, but as much as ya'll love to hate on Tebow, the kid has talent, has worked his butt off,and if you could look me in the eye and tell me he doesn't deserve the accolades he gets, I will call ya a liar..LOL
He isnt the be all, end all, and needs seasoning, but he IS an amazing talent!

Then again so is Colt...I would like to see the Heissman go to Tebow again just cos I like him and that's history, but I am wondering what the percentage of QB Heissman wins,( I am google challenged.lol) to other positions is..I think sometimes the QB's are concentrated on more because they are so much in the forefront, and that there are many other positions that need more consideration than they get.

I won't argue that Tebow is a great player but the CBS guys just basically toss out the Big 12 QB's with the "Oh it is just the systems, blah, blah." tired argument that holds no water really. Tebow's numbers are no where near those of the Big 12 QB's and all 4 QB's (Bradford, Tebow, Harrell, and McCoy) have the exact same record.

Last year Tebow won the Hiesman because he had amazing numbers but not the wins, this season the CBS guys want him to get it not because he put up great numbers but beacuse "he gutted up and lead his team". I just don't like that they are trying to rationalize it towards their guy so blatently.

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Chief_aka_James wrote:

Question about that game...I thought that if USC had the red uni's, they would lose one timeout per half...right now, they still have 3. Did they change the ruling and I just missed it?

I don't have a concrete answer, but I think that it turned out that they only lost one timeout in the 1st half. Also, the Pac 10 was asking for a waiver so maybe they got that. I'm not sure though.

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2	kantwistaye wrote: I think in a normal year that works, but Texas was just as deserving to be in the Big XII title game, but wasn't given the opportunity. But Florida will still get the nod over Texas if they win. Who deserves it more is another argument. But the voters will put the Gators in the national title game.

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0	Ya'll are so serious..I just wanna say I'd give my left boob for Harvin to be playing..LOL

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tpowell25 wrote:

But Florida will still get the nod over Texas if they win. Who deserves it more is another argument. But the voters will put the Gators in the national title game.

It really depends on how close that human vote is between OU, Texas, and Florida. The closer it is, the great the odds that Texas goes instead of Florida since the computers accurately measured how weak the SEC was this season outside of Florida and Alabama.

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0	tpowell25 wrote: But Florida will still get the nod over Texas if they win. Who deserves it more is another argument. But the voters will put the Gators in the national title game. That I can agree with. i just wish the voters in the Harris and Coach's poll actually take some time and look at all the resumes. They won't, but it'd be nice.

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0	Tim Tebow is the greatest QB and leader ever? I'm gonna disagree.

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0	kantwistaye wrote: Tim Tebow is the greatest QB and leader ever? I'm gonna disagree. It pains me to say this but I'll take Vince Young over Tebow any day.

12/6/08

0	For those of you watching the 7:00 games and later, here's the Oklahoma-Missouri-Other late games Live Thread. I would imagine that it will be pretty dead over there until 8.

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: It pains me to say this but I'll take Vince Young over Tebow any day. VY, the college player, was as good as they come. I don't think I've seen a guy singlehandedly beat such a good team.

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Jubanator14 wrote:

I won't argue that Tebow is a great player but the CBS guys just basically toss out the Big 12 QB's with the "Oh it is just the systems, blah, blah." tired argument that holds no water really. Tebow's numbers are no where near those of the Big 12 QB's and all 4 QB's (Bradford, Tebow, Harrell, and McCoy) have the exact same record.

Last year Tebow won the Hiesman because he had amazing numbers but not the wins, this season the CBS guys want him to get it not because he put up great numbers but beacuse "he gutted up and lead his team". I just don't like that they are trying to rationalize it towards their guy so blatently.

The only thing I heard tonight from the CBS guys that made sense was the fact that since everyone does love McCoy, Harrell and Bradford so much, those voting on the three most deserving will be split.

Then for those that are complete SEC-biased/Teboner lovers, they can sneak him in beating all three separate candidates.

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0	Crap. Florida is winning this.

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0	kantwistaye wrote: VY, the college player, was as good as they come. I don't think I've seen a guy singlehandedly beat such a good team. And I can proudly say that his only loss as a starter at Texas was to.....Oklahoma! Take that Vince Young!

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0	Only for Tim Tebow would a simple slant be considered an amazing pass. There are 6 (!) Big XII QBs who at the very least have had equal seasons to Tebow. This Heisman consideration for him is a joke.

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1	Jubanator14 wrote: And I can proudly say that his only loss as a starter at Texas was to.....Oklahoma! Take that Vince Young! Hey now, don't say that...he might go all suicidal on us again. (PQ worthy Longhorn/Titan fans)

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0	(Edited by kantwistaye) kantwistaye wrote: Crap. Florida is winning this. WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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0	I realize I am the new kid on the block, and maybe dont know how to play yet, however, I am capable of being fair, there are other teams more deserving......But, I fairly say, MY GATORS ROCK!!

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0	... and if you had the first pick in some draft to start a college football "franchise" and didn't choose Sam Bradford, you're probably a moron.

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1	Hey newbie...no stretching the page...

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0	kantwistaye wrote: ... and if you had the first pick in some draft to start a college football "franchise" and didn't choose Sam Bradford, you're probably a moron. Oh come on, didn't you hear Verne? Tebow is probably the greatest in the history of college football, EVAR!

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: I had Florida winning and crushing the spread...but as I said on the TV poll, somehow it was changed to me picking Bama +8...If Alabama does happen to win it, and I get a square...I don't know who to thank exactly. I would like my pick to be changed back now please....

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Well, I think I can say this now.

For all of the people (not necessarily on this thread) that said Alabama's season is a disappointment or a failure if they lose this game are idiots. For a team with only 9 scholarship seniors and playing 14 freshmen, I'm pretty damn proud of this team. They were only supposed to win 7 games this year, 8 if they were lucky. I don't care if anyone says the SEC is down, 12-1 for this group is pretty damn good.

Congrats to the Gators. I guess now we get ready for Utah or whoever gets invited to the Sugar Bowl.

Good Season Bama. Ya did good, boys!

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2	(Edited by kantwistaye) Is their a bigger Florida apologist than Gary Danielson? Holy crap, Gary, try to have some integrity while you're on the job.

12/6/08

0	Damn I picked Florida to win 1-10 in the squares contest. I can't stand Verne and Gary. I knew there was a reason I didn't watch SEC games on CBS but I had forgot why...until today.

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Hey newbie...no stretching the page... ROTFLMBO

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0	kantwistaye wrote: Is their a bigger Florida apologist than Gary Danielson? Holy crap, Gary, try to have some integrity while you're on the job. I think both of them are ready to give Florida the National Title today. Lets not even worry about the Bowl games, just give them the crystal ball right now according to those two increasingly more annoying douches

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0	Bama..If I wasnt a Gator fan..I'd have been rooting for you , but now..well this girl is doing the Happy Dance

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Jubanator14 wrote:

I think both of them are ready to give Florida the National Title today.

Lets not even worry about the Bowl games, just give them the crystal ball right now according to those two increasingly more annoying douches

No kidding. I try not to hate Tim Tebow because he really is a wonderful human being, but these guys are making it a bit more difficult.

Also, to say that it would be a monumental mistake to not have Florida in the national championship is ridiculous. Assuming Oklahoma wins, the two most accomplished (BCS conference) teams in the nation would be the Sooners and Longhorns.

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1	Only positive...Urban's daughter...giggity.

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1	Move along folks! Nothing to see here

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0	Pat wrote: Move along folks! Nothing to see here Pushy much, Pat? I'll wait till the game actually starts...I'm enjoying a nice late dinner of potato gnocchi in a basil & garlic butter sauce..

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0	Thanks for missin that FG...tool

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Pushy much, Pat? I'll wait till the game actually starts...I'm enjoying a nice late dinner of potato gnocchi in a basil & garlic butter sauce.. I had to google that to see what that dish was. I am going with a more American chose of Burger and Fries.

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: I had to google that to see what that dish was. I am going with a more American chose of Burger and Fries. Never had gnocchi before? A great dish, go out to a real Italian place sometime..(Not named Olive Garden)

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1	Chief_aka_James wrote: Never had gnocchi before? A great dish, go out to a real Italian place sometime..(Not named Olive Garden) Speaking of italian (sorta)..I had the Panmormous Pizza last night from Pizza Hut and it was HUGE!!!

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: Speaking of italian (sorta)..I had the Panmormous Pizza last night from Pizza Hut and it was HUGE!!! Lol. Saw about 20 of those commercials today watching football...whenever I did live in Atlanta, I could never complain about school/work of cooking for 14 hours in a day, then not able to stand the sight of cooking food, so I stop by a Pizza Hut or Papa Johns every week or so.

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Chief_aka_James wrote:

Lol. Saw about 20 of those commercials today watching football...whenever I did live in Atlanta, I could never complain about school/work of cooking for 14 hours in a day, then not able to stand the sight of cooking food, so I stop by a Pizza Hut or Papa Johns every week or so.

I usually don't have any extra pizza left over when I order a pizza for myself but I have like 4 or 5 slices of this Panmorous pizza left. I was eating it and got really full and looked down and saw more Pizza. Just crazy.

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0	Jubanator14 wrote: I usually don't have any extra pizza left over when I order a pizza for myself but I have like 4 or 5 slices of this Panmorous pizza left. I was eating it and got really full and looked down and saw more Pizza. Just crazy. Now that you're making me salivate for some pizza, but too full to eat again tonight, I'll have to make my own tomorrow for NFL football.

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0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Now that you're making me salivate for some pizza, but too full to eat again tonight, I'll have to make my own tomorrow for NFL football. Order the Panmourous, even it is just for yourself. It is so good.

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0	(Edited by Chief_aka_James) Jubanator14 wrote: Order the Panmourous, even it is just for yourself. It is so good. You're Jubanator14 and you approve that message? I prefer homemade myself, and have all ingredients, including some pepperoni, sausage, and veggies...I'll do that. (Panourmous commercial on ESPN now as I type this...)

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