NFL Power Rankings, Week 13

It's Pretty Much Impossible To Doubt The Saints At This Point [NFL Power Rankings]

12/1/09 in NFL   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

Last week, the Florida Tuskers made the list at #32, right ahead of the Browns. But then they lost the UFL Championship game, so they're out once again, allowing the Browns to move up a spot, whether they deserve it or not. Here's this week's rankings:


1. Saints, 11-0, Last week: 2
The Colts beat the Patriots. Barely. The Saints absolutely wrecked them. The game was almost never in doubt. I've watched the Patriots for a long time, and I don't remember them being dominated like that in a long time.

2. Colts, 11-0, Last week: 1
They're still undefeated, but they continue to just barely squeak by. It took 21 points in the 4th quarter to beat the Texans. They're not going to get away with this forever.

3. Vikings, 10-1, Last week: 3
The Vikings are one win away from sweeping their division, and based on the way they wrecked the Bears this week, I don't think they'll have much trouble with that.

4. Chargers, 8-3, Last week: 5
The Chargers just keep on winning. 6 in a row now, and they're in great shape to win the AFC West. Considering the hole they were in after 5 games, that's just ridiculous.

5. Bengals, 8-3, Last week: 6
They could have looked better against the Browns, but they keep winning, and that's the bottom line. They've helped themselves a lot by winning all 6 of their division games.

6. Cowboys, 8-3, Last week: 8
I'm a little hesitant, because they've been awful in December throughout the Tony Romo era. But for now, they're playing as well as anyone.

7. Patriots, 7-4, Last week: 4
They were absolutely embarrassed by the Saints. Does that mean the Patriots aren't as good as we may have thought? Yeah, pretty much. The Saints are good, but that loss was inexcusable.

8. Cardinals, 7-4, Last week: 7
They lost to the Titans, but that seems to be what all the cool kids are doing lately in the NFL. But to be fair, the Cardinals probably would have won that game with Kurt Warner.

9. Eagles, 7-4, Last week: 11
They squeaked out a less than impressive win against the Redskins, but with another game remaining against the Cowboys, they control their own playoff destiny.

10. Ravens, 6-5, Last week: 12
Joe Flacco looks like he has regressed a bit after a great showing early in the year, but it was enough to beat the Steelers. Then again, it doesn't take much to beat the Steelers nowadays.

11. Packers, 7-4, Last week: 17
They've taken some abuse, especially the offensive line, but this team is 7-2 against teams not named the Vikings. Unfortunately for them, those Vikings are in their division, so they're fighting for a Wild Card.

12. Broncos, 7-4, Last week: 13
They might have righted the ship with a win over the Giants, and while the division might have slipped away from them, they still are in great shape to snag a playoff spot.

13. Titans, 5-6, Last week: 15
How long can the magic continue with this team? My guess is that it ends this week against the Colts. Vince Young will get exposed at some point.

14. Atlanta, 6-5, Last week: 16
Losing Matt Ryan will hurt short-term, but they're doing the right thing by giving him time to rest and get healthy. Especially since Chris Redman was able to help them win this week.

15. Steelers, 6-5, Last week: 9
Lately, the Steelers have looked as bad as I've seen them since the Tommy Maddox era. Can they rebound and make the playoffs? I'm starting to have my doubts.

16. 49ers, 5-6, Last week: 20
They looked good against the Jaguars, but it might be too little, too late. They'll probably have to win out if they want to make the playoffs. Unfortunately they have at least 2 tough games remaining.

17. Jaguars, 6-5, Last week: 10
They got shut down against the 49ers, but that's not going to happen too often with Maurice Jones-Drew. He's one of the most versatile and productive backs in the NFL.

18. Giants, 6-5, Last week: 14
The Giants' playoff hopes are all but gone, and Eli Manning's season might be over due to his foot injury. With the money they invested in him, they might be wise to let him wait it out. This year is over for them.

19. Texans, 5-6, Last week: 18
They were competitive against the Colts, but they need to start finding a way to close out games, especially against division rivals.

20. Dolphins, 5-6, Last week: 19
Ricky Williams has been pretty amazing, but it's just not enough when the rest of your team is terrible. The Dolphins are in good shape to rebuild with Chad Henne, though.

21. Jets, 5-6, Last week: 23
Mark Sanchez is not looking like the franchise QB that the Jets thought they had in the first few weeks, but give him time. He's still a rookie. That being said, wow... he's looking awful.

22. Panthers, 4-7, Last week: 21
Speaking of Mark Sanchez, Jake Delhomme is an interception machine, the likes of which we haven't seen in a while. Fortunately for the Panthers, he'll be out this week with a broken finger.

23. Bears, 4-7, Last week: 22
And to complete the trifecta of interception-happy QB's, we bring you Jay Cutler and the Bears. Man, it would be nice to have all those draft picks back, wouldn't it?

24. Seahawks, 4-7, Last week: 25
The Seahawks should be in full rebuilding mode. Anything short of that would just be letting down their fans. They need to get younger, healthier, and just flat out better.

25. Bills, 4-7, Last week: 26
Wait, the Bills won this week? What happened? Oh yeah... they played a very beat up Dolphins team, and Terrell Owens showed up again. That makes sense.

26. Chiefs, 3-8, Last week: 24
The Chiefs were showing glimpses of potential, but then showed they were who we thought they were, by getting wrecked in San Diego. Give Todd Haley some time, and maybe he'll turn it around.

27. Raiders, 3-8, Last week: 27
Blah blah blah, the Raiders are awful, blah blah blah. Seems like the same story we've been hearing for the past decade, almost.

28. Redskins, 3-8, Last week: 28
The Redskins have been playing tough lately, but they're still not getting wins. With Chris Cooley landing on IR, that's not likely to change anytime soon.

29. Lions, 2-9, Last week: 29
Matt Stafford once again showed amazing toughness even to play in their Thanksgiving game at all. That being said, he didn't play well. Maybe Daunte Culpepper should have gotten the start.

30. Rams, 1-10, Last week: 30
The Rams gave the Seahawks a run for their money, but let's be serious. That's not really even that impressive. And they still lost by 10 points at home. This team is terrible.

31. Buccaneers, 1-10, Last week: 31
I still can't believe this team beat the Packers. Can someone please tell me how the hell that happened? And it wasn't even close... that's the biggest surprise. This team shouldn't beat ANYONE if they can't beat Chris Redman.

32. Browns, 1-10, Last week: 33
The Browns leapfrogged the Florida Tuskers, but they're still awful. Hey, I have an idea... Fire Eric Mangini! Expect me to repeat that mantra until he's gone.


Feel free to comment on the rankings, and let me know where you think I've gone wrong. Although I haven't, but you're more than welcome to try.
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12/5/09   |  

 The Saints haven't been properly challenged. I doubt anyone who watched that massacre would call the Pats game a well-matched one. The entire team looked to be suffering from hangovers. The Saint's win could have been accomplished by any mid-ranked team with a decent passing game. 

12/5/09   |     |   68 respect

Texas longhorns at 30.

12/2/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

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Saints are the power house team.  Can you imagine if the Colts and the Saints remain undefeated and appear in the Superbowl?  Guess the Dolphins will be ready to dump the champagne and empty the ice bucket.

If two undefeated teams are in the Super Bowl, I bet that would break all previous broadcast records. I can't imagine two teams going undefeated in the same regular season, and both making it to the big game, but don't you know that would be exciting as hell?!?!

12/2/09   |  

I like seeing the Cowboys at Number 6.  Other polls have them at 10-13.  This will be Tony Romo's last shot this December.  Biggest game of his career will be on Dec. 19th at #1 New Orleans!

12/2/09   |  

Saints are the power house team.  Can you imagine if the Colts and the Saints remain undefeated and appear in the Superbowl?  Guess the Dolphins will be ready to dump the champagne and empty the ice bucket.

12/2/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

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LOL HouTxFan and Pat are cracking me up, but i would still like to comment on the original comment about it being impossible to doubt the saints at this point, while if one had of asked me last week i would have without a doubt said the saints are garbage but after watching the hurting they put on the pats last nite, they just may be the team to beat in the super bowl and i, being a die hard love em forever and ever STEELER fan will with all the breath in me believe my precious STEELERS can still make it to the superbowl and lose to new orleans LOL LOL LOL.  So I agree it is impossibe to doubt the saints at this point.

Barring some major upsets over the next few weeks and on into the playoffs, it's sure looking like a Saints vs. Colts Super Bowl.  At this point, I'd definitely put my money on the Saints!

12/2/09   |     |   15 respect

LOL HouTxFan and Pat are cracking me up, but i would still like to comment on the original comment about it being impossible to doubt the saints at this point, while if one had of asked me last week i would have without a doubt said the saints are garbage but after watching the hurting they put on the pats last nite, they just may be the team to beat in the super bowl and i, being a die hard love em forever and ever STEELER fan will with all the breath in me believe my precious STEELERS can still make it to the superbowl and lose to new orleans LOL LOL LOL.  So I agree it is impossibe to doubt the saints at this point.

12/2/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

(Edited by HouTxFan)

I didn't have to try hard at all to find connections.  You have such problems accepting what you demand of others...you try so hard to live for the moment only and backpedal from previous comments.  It's either  kinda cute or sad, depending upon one's disposition toward children.  Anyway, it's late...it's cold...tuck yourself in, and remember...Santa Claus is coming to town soon.

12/2/09   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

HouTxFan wrote:

No problem if you want to back out of statements you are on the record as having made in previous conversations...you obviously have the right, and most definitely the privileges, to change your mind whenever you want.

You said Brady passed a torch last night.  Since you previously implied people should outline their reasons if they dare to have an opinion that differs from yours, I pointed out that I didn't think Brady even had a torch to pass, since he hasn't played well, at least figuratively speaking, since the 2007 season.  I gave my reason for my opinion of Brady being torch-challenged.  You previously implied, albeit in another conversation, that I tried to paint you as a homer, therefore I am a jerk.  I pointed out that you made an "anti-homer" jab at the Texans in this conversation, thinking your "homer / jerk" rule should kick in, and you see no correlation.  Big surprise there...uhhhh, no.  As someone, perhaps you, said earlier...whatever. 

You're trying too hard to find connections where there are none. And honestly, it's just sad. But whatever... do your thing. It's entertaining, if nothing else.

12/2/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

Pat wrote:
There's no contradiction. You're just trying to tie together multiple unrelated conversations and taking things out of context, in an effort to paint me in a corner. It's funny, really.

No problem if you want to back out of statements you are on the record as having made in previous conversations...you obviously have the right, and most definitely the privileges, to change your mind whenever you want.

You said Brady passed a torch last night.  Since you previously implied people should outline their reasons if they dare to have an opinion that differs from yours, I pointed out that I didn't think Brady even had a torch to pass, since he hasn't played well, at least figuratively speaking, since the 2007 season.  I gave my reason for my opinion of Brady being torch-challenged.  You previously implied, albeit in another conversation, that I tried to paint you as a homer, therefore I am a jerk.  I pointed out that you made an "anti-homer" jab at the Texans in this conversation, thinking your "homer / jerk" rule should kick in, and you see no correlation.  Big surprise there...uhhhh, no.  As someone, perhaps you, said earlier...whatever. 

12/2/09   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

HouTxFan wrote:
No, it wasn't the figurative speech; I can comprehend it quite well.  No doubt, I'm not near as smart as you, but...  It's actually the contradictions and such that make things so hard to follow. 

There's no contradiction. You're just trying to tie together multiple unrelated conversations and taking things out of context, in an effort to paint me in a corner. It's funny, really.

12/2/09   |     |   54 respect

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Saints are the best team so far this season.  The biggest thing for them right now is battling the Vikes for home field throughout the playoffs.  That will probably determine who goes to the Super Bowl for the NFC.  It will be tough to beat the Vikes or the Saints on their home field!

12/1/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

(Edited by HouTxFan)

No, it wasn't the figurative speech; I can comprehend it quite well.  No doubt, I'm not near as smart as you, but...  It's actually the contradictions and such that make things so hard to follow. 

12/1/09   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

Despite the fact that Brady was out and Peyton Manning is the early favorite for MVP, Tom Brady still has had the better overall career, when you look at regular and post season accomplishments. But last night, he looked terrible, and Brees was almost perfect.

The torch-passing was more of a figurative thing, since the Patriots have been the dominant team of the decade, and it looks like the Saints are taking over. Unfortunately, figurative speech is sometimes lost on people, hence the lack of appreciation for it. Whatever.

12/1/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

(Edited by HouTxFan)

Pat wrote:

I'm not being a jerk, I'm just refuting poor arguments. It's nothing personal, and I find it funny when people like you try to make it that way. There's nothing jerky about disagreeing with someone and outlining your reasons for doing so. If anything, I'd be a jerk if I said something ignorant like "you'd probably think Peyton Manning was MVP if he were on the Texans".
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Sorry I have such trouble keeping up with you Pat.  The other day, approx 5 weeks before the season ends, it was nonsense to even consider anyone other than P Manning and Brees for MVP.  Since Brady basically didn't play last year, I assumed you'd already made him give the torch to someone else...like last year.  My bad, as usual...

And you're most definitely right.  In the 8 total years of their existence, and the sum total of 2 starting quarterbacks that they've had, the Texans have not had one like Brady...or the "newcomers" like Manning or Brees.  Feel better now?

12/1/09   |     |   7 respect

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Personally if i was a betting man i would put money on the vikes and this is coming from a packer fan. They will beat the saints and lose in the Superbowl to the ...... Chargers! Book it!

I'll take some of that action

12/1/09   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

HouTxFan wrote:

Brady had a torch to pass?

Yeah... you know... the "greatest QB alive" torch. You might not be familiar, because the Texans have never had someone who could ever enter the conversation.

12/1/09   |   badgermann   |   30 respect

Personally if i was a betting man i would put money on the vikes and this is coming from a packer fan. They will beat the saints and lose in the Superbowl to the ...... Chargers! Book it!

12/1/09   |   HouTxFan   |   5028 respect

Brady had a torch to pass?

12/1/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

Niners have to win out to make the playoffs?

Not really.

Case in point: SF has Seattle this week and AZ has Minnesota. That's not an easy task for SF, but it is a winnable game. Certainly SF has a better chance against the 'hawks than AZ has against the vikes.

So if SF wins and AZ loses, which is a decent possibility, then SF would only be 1 game behind AZ for the NFC west lead going into their MNF matchup against AZ the following week.

SF has already beat AZ, in AZ. If SF can win at home on MNF over AZ, again not easy but certainly far from impossible then SF would lead the NFC west. They'd be tied, record wise, with AZ but they'd have the tiebreak over AZ due to head to head record.

Would SF have to win out after that to win the West? Compare the schedules:

SF has Philly, Detroit and St. Louis. AZ has Detroit, St. Louis and Green Bay. I think both SF and AZ would go 2-1 in those games and that would still leave SF as the NFC West champs.

So I don't think SF has to win out to make the playoffs, they just need to beat Seattle and win their home games down the stretch.

12/1/09   |   streetballer123   |   3247 respect

The Texans need a new coach