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Last week, I had the Saints at #1 in the Power Rankings. On Sunday, they showed that they definitely deserved to be there, giving the Giants a beating that no one truly expected. The Giants, on the other hand, looked like a team whose 5-0 record was thanks to a lot of easy opponents. Overall, this might be the hardest week to evaluate so far, thanks to a lot of "good" teams losing, some of them to very bad teams. Without further ado, here are this week's NFL Power Rankings:

1. Saints, 5-0, Last week: 1
They definitely proved themselves to me. A blowout win over the Giants, who were widely thought to be the best team in the NFC... I'm impressed. All of the Saints' wins so far have been by at least 14 points.

2. Colts, 5-0, Last week: 3
They had their bye this week, and next week they play the Rams. We could quite conceivably see a repeat of the Patriots-Titans game.

3. Broncos, 6-0, Last week: 5
Once again, they proved the doubters wrong. After 6 wins in a row, they're definitely holding their own among the best in the league.

4. Vikings, 6-0, Last week: 4
Another close call, but the Vikings remain undefeated. I have a feeling that they'll be the first team to slip, out of the 4 remaining teams without a loss. Don't be surprised if it happens in the next couple weeks, either in Pittsburgh or in Green Bay.

5. Giants, 5-1, Last week: 2
Honestly, I hesitate to even have them ranked this high. They got completely embarrassed against the Saints. But at the same time, there appears to be quite a gap between the top 4 teams and the rest of the league. You can make a case for any of the next few teams to be in this spot.

6. Patriots, 4-2, Last week: 10
It was only the Titans, who have the worst secondary in the NFL and have basically given up on the season. But the Patriots were reminiscent of 2007... but with a more stifling defense. Let's hope that Brady is back for real, and it wasn't just a one-time deal. But it was the Titans, so that's a distinct possibility.

7. Falcons, 4-1, Last week: 11
They looked pretty good against the Bears, but it's clear that the Falcons are still a step below the NFC's truly elite teams. "Pretty good" probably won't cut it later in the year against the Saints. In fact, it definitely won't cut it.

8. Bengals, 4-2, Last week: 6
They lost to the Texans... not impressive. Giving up 28 points against that offense really isn't too bad. The Texans can score. But only scoring 17 points against them... that's simply not good enough.

9. Steelers, 4-2, Last week: 13
The defending champs looked good this week, but it was only the Browns. Next up: The Vikings. That should answer a lot of questions about both teams.

10. Ravens, 3-3, Last week: 12
They were getting crushed by the Vikings, but came back and almost won it. In fact, if not for a missed field goal as time expired, they would have beaten the 6-0 Vikings. The Ravens have all the pieces, and they're a good team. They just need to pull it all together.

11. Bears, 3-2, Last week: 7
They're very much in the same category as the Falcons. They're good teams, but they're probably not going to win the conference. They could really use Brian Urlacher right now.

12. 49ers, 3-2, Last week: 14
They have 2 straight road games against AFC South teams coming up, and that could be a pivotal few games for them. If they can beat both the Texans and the Colts, I'll hand them the division. Most likely, they'll go 1-1 in those two games.

13. Eagles, 3-2, Last week: 8
They lost to the Raiders. The Raiders. The Oakland Raiders. If ever there is a sign that your team is not legit, it's a loss to the Raiders. I don't even know how that happened.

14. Texans, 3-3, Last week: 21
Solid win against the Bengals this week, and they show once again that they are as talented as they are inconsistent. They have the potential to beat almost anyone in the league... but I'm betting they'll finish 9-7.

15. Cowboys, 3-2, Last week: 15
Can they beat the Falcons? If they play like they did against the Chiefs, then no, not at all. This team needs a new coach, and probably a new quarterback as well.

16. Packers, 3-2, Last week: 18
If they had a halfway decent offensive line, they would be an excellent team. But as long as Aaron Rodgers is getting sacked 5 times per game, it will be hard for them to win. Even the Lions sacked him 5 times. No bueno.

17. Chargers, 2-3, Last week: 16
Their loss to the Broncos this week all but cemented their place as the 2nd best team in the division. LT is no longer an elite RB, and they'll need Darren Sproles and Vincent Jackson to take over from here if they want to make the playoffs.

18. Cardinals, 3-2, Last week: 19
This is a hard team to figure out. When it's all said and done, they'll probably have to win their division to even make it back to the playoffs, but the 49ers won't make it easy for them.

19. Dolphins, 2-3, Last week: 17
They've had their bye week, and now they get to see the Saints, the Jets (again) and then the Patriots. We'll find out soon just how good Chad Henne and that offense can be.

20. Jaguars, 3-3, Last week: 22
A win is a win, but the Jags shouldn't really feel good about this week at all. Beating the Rams in overtime is an embarrassment, I don't care who you are.

21. Bills, 2-4, Last week: 29
This team lost to the Browns, and then beat the Jets. Does that speak to the inconsistency of the Bills, the Jets' huge dropoff, or is it something to do with the Browns? Honestly, I'm perplexed.

22. Panthers, 2-3, Last week: 23
The Panthers have won 2 straight, but those wins were against the Redskins and Buccaneers... two teams who are a combined 2-10, and have never beaten a team with a win.

23. Seahawks, 2-4, Last week: 20
The Seahawks are another team with 2 wins... but both are against terrible teams. They blew out the Rams, and blew out the Jaguars. With Lofa Tatupu out for the year, stick a fork in this team.

24. Jets, 3-3, Last week: 9
So much for Mark Sanchez being the next great rookie QB, right? He now has the 3rd worst QB rating in the league among starters, ahead of only JaMarcus Russell and Derek Anderson. He's also tied with Jake Delhomme for the most interceptions. Not good.

25. Raiders, 2-4, Last week: 27
Don't even ask me how this team beat the Eagles, but I'll go out on a limb and say that the Eagles' horrible 3rd down efficiency (2 for 16) had something to do with it. The Raiders are still awful, though. The only thing they did was ruin any chance they might have had to get the #1 overall draft pick again.

26. Chiefs, 1-5, Last week: 30
They finally got a win. It was against the Redskins, who also gave the Lions their only win, but it was a win nonetheless. Congrats to the Chiefs... I guess.

27. Lions, 1-5, Last week: 25
Without Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson, they never really stood a chance against the Packers. With a final score of 26-0, it's clear that their game was over before it ever began.

28. Browns, 1-5, Last week: 28
After their ridiculously ugly win over the Bills, the Steelers reminded the Browns that this is still the NFL, and beat them down. That's the 12th straight time the Steelers have beaten the Browns.

29. Redskins, 2-4, Last week: 24
Despite what might be the easiest schedule in the history of schedules (so far), the Redskins are STILL only 2-4. Aside from the Giants, their opponents this year are ranked 22, 26, 27, 30 and 32 in these very power rankings. And the Redskins STILL were only able to sneak away with two wins. That's terrible. Fire Jim Zorn. Now.

30. Buccaneers, 0-6, Last week: 31
Inching closer and closer to 0-16. This team has a VERY real chance to pull it off. If the Jets keep imploding, that might be their best chance, when they come to Tampa in week 14.

31. Titans, 0-6, Last week: 26
Everyone thought this team wasn't THAT bad, but just had a vicious schedule. That is, until the Patriots beat them as badly as any team has ever been beaten in the NFL. This team is a disaster. Time for Jeff Fisher to go? It sounds crazy, but maybe it is.

32. Rams, 0-6, Last week: 32
They actually looked better than the Titans this year, but I'm still convinced that this Rams team is the worst in football. Until they win, or until the Titans lose by 40+ again, the Rams aren't going anywhere.


What are your thoughts on the rankings? Let 'em rip.
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10/20/09
2
it looks like in the picture of Norv that he is assuming the position to get ready for the opposing teams offense and what they do to his team each week. 

10/20/09
0
Pat - NO vs Patriots - after this week - you guys scare me a little.

will be a damned good game in a few weeks man.

10/20/09
0
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not sure why the Lions are 27th?they should be at least 30th or worse....they suck

10/20/09
1
And then there were three............winless teams, that is......

What might be the icing on the cake for the Bucs' horrific season (and most ironic, too) is if they beat the Packers on November 8 wearing their throwback Bucco Bruce cremecicle uniforms!

10/20/09
1
As a Saints fan, I totally agree with your #1.  But after last night, I may have to put the Broncos at #2.  Their defense is just knocking people around.  Denver's offense isn't as flashy as the Colt's, but they don't make mistakes, control the clock, and put up enough points to win.  Eddie Royal helped bail out the offense some last night, but when Denver needed to score to put the game away, they succeeded.  As for the Rams being the worst team in the NFL, at least they play 4 quarters.  The Titans have just folded the tents and gone home.

10/20/09
2
Vikes at 4 is fine for my.....keep them under the radar, if you can keep an undefeated team under the radar.

10/20/09
1
Since returning to the league in 1999, the Browns have beaten the Steelers a grand total of 3 times, that's just embarrassing, and the reason I don't even consider it a rivalry anymore.  As I've said for years, the rivalry moved to Baltimore with the original Browns.

10/20/09
2
Colts will be #1 after the Pats knock off the Saints

10/20/09
1
mnstar1959 wrote:
Vikes at 4 is fine for my.....keep them under the radar, if you can keep an undefeated team under the radar.
#4 is under the radar? Hmmm... weird. There are 4 undefeated teams... SOMEONE has to be #4. I wouldn't say that makes them "under the radar".

10/20/09
1
It's time to get some Texans Stock! Houston is climbing and going upwards.

10/20/09
0
 The Falcons ride herd over the cow-boys. Should move up to #5 this comming week. They're better than pretty good and they'll prove it this week.

10/20/09
0
I think that the saints could go a long way this year in the playoffs .A real good chance to play for division title.a colts fan...

10/20/09
3
I know the Broncos beat the Pats, but I still don't see them as good as their record shows.  I think they're over-achieving, like WAY over their heads.  So I see them being the bottom of the undefeated teams.  I know the Vikes almost blew it to the Ravens, but that team was in the AFC Championship game in January and sure wasn't just going to go away.  I'm sure they couldn't see themselves losing 3 straight and dropping to .500 and from the get-go I figured it would be a 3 point or less game.  Now this next week does scare me, with the Steelers being 16-3 at Heinz since 2007, so I'll not feel horrible about a loss there.  7-1 at the bye would be great.  (of course 8-0 would be outstanding)

10/20/09
1
Vikings are playing at the best  as a total team so far this year.If they can keep up this the team work as one unit..I feel like this team is a well oiled machine from watching the games.They will lose 2 games this year but it will make this team that much better in the play offs...go colts

10/20/09
0
The Colts should win a lot of games score a lot of points until they play New England then we will see what the colts have,,,This will be the first major road block...GO COLTS

10/20/09
0
The vikings are one hail mary last second TD and one chip shot field goal missed from having two losses.  THe giants defense is banged up (no canty, boley, ross, phillips)  but nicely done pat .    Colts vs Saints SUper Bowl....Cant wait to see the saints falcons game coming up

10/20/09
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Pat - I'm glad you said this "Overall, this might be the hardest week to evaluate so far, thanks to a lot of "good" teams losing, some of them to very bad teams", and then go on to put the Eagles at #13, and the 49er's at #12, who lost their last game and still moved up 2 spots??? How the heck does that work, if you don't mind explaining? AZ crushes Seattle, who are really a decent team if you look at the numbers, and they then win 2 games in a row, and they only go from #19 to #18. I'll give you that this is one of the toughest weeks, but the Eagles losing to the Raiders, heck, any team that loses to the Raiders should automatically drop at least 10 spots!!! Still like the article, and I've got a feeling that there are going to be a lot more upsets to come!!


10/20/09
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ipunki wrote:

Pat - I'm glad you said this "Overall, this might be the hardest week to evaluate so far, thanks to a lot of "good" teams losing, some of them to very bad teams", and then go on to put the Eagles at #13, and the 49er's at #12, who lost their last game and still moved up 2 spots??? How the heck does that work, if you don't mind explaining? AZ crushes Seattle, who are really a decent team if you look at the numbers, and they then win 2 games in a row, and they only go from #19 to #18. I'll give you that this is one of the toughest weeks, but the Eagles losing to the Raiders, heck, any team that loses to the Raiders should automatically drop at least 10 spots!!! Still like the article, and I've got a feeling that there are going to be a lot more upsets to come!!

I'm going to take a stab at the 49ers-Eagles thing and say that the Niners moved up ahead of the Eagles because having a bye week is a better than losing to the Raiders.

10/20/09
0
I'm surprised to see the Raiders at #25. I have never dreamed that the Artist Formerly Known As JeMarcus Russell, would embarass the Eagles that badly Sunday.

10/20/09
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ipunki wrote:

Pat - I'm glad you said this "Overall, this might be the hardest week to evaluate so far, thanks to a lot of "good" teams losing, some of them to very bad teams", and then go on to put the Eagles at #13, and the 49er's at #12, who lost their last game and still moved up 2 spots??? How the heck does that work, if you don't mind explaining? AZ crushes Seattle, who are really a decent team if you look at the numbers, and they then win 2 games in a row, and they only go from #19 to #18. I'll give you that this is one of the toughest weeks, but the Eagles losing to the Raiders, heck, any team that loses to the Raiders should automatically drop at least 10 spots!!! Still like the article, and I've got a feeling that there are going to be a lot more upsets to come!!

I agree that losing to the Raiders should result in a huge drop, but which team (of the teams behind the Eagles, of course) do you think should be ahead of the Eagles right now? You can't just say "drop this team 10 spots" without having 10 teams that can jump ahead of them all of a sudden. Who are the 10 teams that should have leapfrogged the Eagles after their 4-point road loss? I didn't think that there were really 10 teams that showed enough to make that leap.

10/20/09
0
The Saints need to watch out for the Dolphins. When that wild cat gets going it gets tough....

10/20/09
1

Wow, another week of futility by the Lions, a 26-0 loss at Green Bay. The Lions have now lost 18 consecutive games @ Lambeau Field. This week the Lions are on their bye week...with the bye week favored by 7.
Go Lions.!


10/20/09
0
I understand the Saints have the leagues most explosive offense, but I think the Broncos have the Leagues best all around team this year.

10/20/09
1
Wow, you think the niners will be able to go 1-1 against Houston and Indy? I'm a niners fan and I'm thinking after the way they got hammered by Atl that they are going 0-2 in these next two games.

10/20/09
1
DERYKE wrote:
The Colts should win a lot of games score a lot of points until they play New England then we will see what the colts have,,,This will be the first major road block...GO COLTS
Bring on the Pats, I cant wait

10/20/09
1
Pat wrote:
#4 is under the radar? Hmmm... weird. There are 4 undefeated teams... SOMEONE has to be #4. I wouldn't say that makes them "under the radar".
All the current talk is about the Saints and Pats.......your pick of Mn at 4 is similar to Iowa at 6 in the BCS.......It is interesting that you put Den. ahead of Mn. I'm guessing because of their defense on Sun.  Just a quick question, Is your ranking system based on week to week or season to date?

10/20/09
1
mnstar1959 wrote:
All the current talk is about the Saints and Pats.......your pick of Mn at 4 is similar to Iowa at 6 in the BCS.......It is interesting that you put Den. ahead of Mn. I'm guessing because of their defense on Sun.  Just a quick question, Is your ranking system based on week to week or season to date?
It is a combination of the two. I'll readily admit that the rankings are very subjective, and if I re-wrote them tomorrow, some teams would likely be in different places.

However, I feel pretty strongly about the ranking of the top 4 teams, based on their performance thus far. Between the Vikings and Broncos, I believe the Broncos overall have higher quality wins. That's it, really. The Broncos have beaten better teams, in my opinion. And the Vikings came perilously close to losing to the 49ers and Ravens. The Broncos were the same way, but with the Patriots and Bengals. As you can see from my rankings, I think the Patriots and Bengals are better than the 49ers and Ravens.

That's my reasoning. But much like Iowa, if the Broncos keep winning, they will move up. It's only 6 games into the season, there's lots of time left.

10/20/09
0
True and I commend you for putting yourself out on a limb by putting this out.......Kudos to you!

10/20/09
0
I don't know if the Bears are bad or just can't play on Sunday night.  Take away the Sunday night games and the Bears look good.  It's a good thing that playoff games are in the afternoon, if the Bears make it that far.

10/20/09
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rogercarver1960 wrote:
I don't know if the Bears are bad or just can't play on Sunday night.  Take away the Sunday night games and the Bears look good.  It's a good thing that playoff games are in the afternoon, if the Bears make it that far.
The Bears could of easily won both of those games. The first was Cutlers 1st  game and the 2nd was a dumb mistake by Pace.

10/20/09
0
I still don't know if the Giants embarassing loss is because the Giants defense isn't as good as everyone thought they were or because the Saints are really just that unstoppable.

Also, the Broncos are good right now, but I don't think it will last. I just don't think that Kyle Orton is the real deal

10/21/09
0
I_Bleed_Purple wrote:
I know the Broncos beat the Pats, but I still don't see them as good as their record shows.  I think they're over-achieving, like WAY over their heads.  So I see them being the bottom of the undefeated teams.  I know the Vikes almost blew it to the Ravens, but that team was in the AFC Championship game in January and sure wasn't just going to go away.  I'm sure they couldn't see themselves losing 3 straight and dropping to .500 and from the get-go I figured it would be a 3 point or less game.  Now this next week does scare me, with the Steelers being 16-3 at Heinz since 2007, so I'll not feel horrible about a loss there.  7-1 at the bye would be great.  (of course 8-0 would be outstanding)
I would also put the Broncos at #4, but not for the reason you said.  Simply put, AD puts the Vikings above the Broncos, and that's it.  Both teams have awesome defenses, two QBs expected to do nothing but manage games (and who have proven to many doubters that they can make plays when needed), a couple of speed and size receivers and good tight ends.  However, the Broncos most certainly do NOT have any player close to the level of AD. 
The two teams also have been close to losing a couple of the games that they found ways to win.  Very similar teams, but at the end of the day, I'd put a little more stock in having the best running back in the league

10/21/09
0
nyrangers wrote:
I still don't know if the Giants embarassing loss is because the Giants defense isn't as good as everyone thought they were or because the Saints are really just that unstoppable.

Also, the Broncos are good right now, but I don't think it will last. I just don't think that Kyle Orton is the real deal
With every Orton win, does it get harder and harder to continue to downgrade him?

10/21/09
1
aerockyulhim wrote:
With every Orton win, does it get harder and harder to continue to downgrade him?
Not really. Their defense only allows 11 points per game. Doesn't exactly take the second coming of Joe Montana when the defense is that great. Their offense is very middle-of-the-road, really.

10/21/09
0
Pat wrote:
Not really. Their defense only allows 11 points per game. Doesn't exactly take the second coming of Joe Montana when the defense is that great. Their offense is very middle-of-the-road, really.
No one is expecting him to be the second coming of Montana.  The only expectation is to win, make smart decisions, and not turn the ball over.  Those words are straight out of Josh McDaniels mouth.  Orton is doing exactly what is expected of him.  I wonder if everyone's perception of guys like Orton is clouded by fantasy football.  Teams could give a rat's *ss about fantasy football.  Their collective goal is to win, and that's all Orton does. 

10/21/09
1
Bengals getting in at #8 makes me happy especially being one over the Stealers (surely only because they won head to head) but I'll take it!!!!

They have a winnable game this week against a decent Bears team and then the bye.  Then time to heal up some minor injuries and get a serious game plan together for the rest of the season.

Offense has some improving to do...stop throwing tight ends who can't catch.

10/21/09
0
After that embarrassing performance on Sunday, we deserve to be No. 5

10/21/09
1
aerockyulhim wrote:
No one is expecting him to be the second coming of Montana.  The only expectation is to win, make smart decisions, and not turn the ball over.  Those words are straight out of Josh McDaniels mouth.  Orton is doing exactly what is expected of him.  I wonder if everyone's perception of guys like Orton is clouded by fantasy football.  Teams could give a rat's *ss about fantasy football.  Their collective goal is to win, and that's all Orton does. 
Right... but it's a lot EASIER to win, when you're not expected to score 25-30 points per game. He doesn't turn the ball over because he doesn't take risks. He doesn't take risks because he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to, because the defense allows him to win while being mediocre.

If he had to carry his team the way guys like Drew Brees or Peyton Manning have to, he wouldn't be able to. It's not a criticism, per se, it's just reality.

10/21/09
0
I think the Titans should swap places with the Rams, who didn't quit.

10/21/09
0
Pat wrote:
Right... but it's a lot EASIER to win, when you're not expected to score 25-30 points per game. He doesn't turn the ball over because he doesn't take risks. He doesn't take risks because he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to, because the defense allows him to win while being mediocre.

If he had to carry his team the way guys like Drew Brees or Peyton Manning have to, he wouldn't be able to. It's not a criticism, per se, it's just reality.
I'll give you that he doesn't have the same situation as other teams who use their QBs to carry the team, rather than managing the game.  I do realize and accept that there is a difference between the elites and the game managers, who can nonetheless be equally successful outside the world of fantasy football.
Still, Orton was the one who threw the two touchdowns when his team needed it, when they were trailing after halftime.  If it was the other way around, where Orton scores two TDs in the first half, and then the special teams bails him out in the second half, I'd come closer to your side of the argument.  However, the special teams got the early scores (and the Chargers got their own boost from the same unit), and when the Broncos needed the offense to compliment the shut-down job of the defense in the second half, they rose to the challenge and did what they were expected to do. 
Back in the Pats game, the Pats had the halftime lead, the defense shut them down in the second half, and the Bronco offense again scored when it needed to.  Again, if it was the other way around, where the offense scores its 20 points in the first half, but can't do anything in the second half despite the defense doing such a great job, I'd again be coming to your side that Orton can't be trusted to lead the offense when his team needs it. 
It's very true that he won't need to be putting up 30-40 points a game in order for the team to win, like Brees and Manning and Brady are expected to do.  But I don't think you can make that claim that he can't do it until the defense does indeed have a bad game and it will be Orton's time to carry the full load.  He hasn't really had that experience yet, though.  He had the great Bears defenses and now has a great Denver defense.  Everyone's so damn sure he CAN'T do something that he's never had the chance to prove one way or another.

10/21/09
1
Jeff Fisher to the Chargers would be the smartest move ever

10/21/09
0
 YES!!!! The Buccs are not 32nd!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!

10/21/09
0
The saints have one mannings jersey as a trophy of how they manhandled brother Eli. the other brother should not say to many things that could build a fire under the saints,,,,,he should be lucky the saints are out of bye weeks to rest up for the pats.....it seems that in a game that really matters brady has not have a good string going....as long as the saints start off slow, kinda like a steamroller,you go slow at first and then you build the speed up so you dont miss any area that needs to be covered. the offensive line can give drew the time to look downfield the pats dont hold a chance............GEAUX SAINTS.............................

10/21/09
0
seen it b 4

10/21/09
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People are going to laugh at me but Kyle Orton is a serious front runner for the MVP right now!

10/21/09
1
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:
People are going to laugh at me but Kyle Orton is a serious front runner for the MVP right now!
LOL no way. Denver is a solid team, Orton just doesn't make mistakes. But he's certainly not the league's MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ahead of Manning, Brees, Peterson, Brady etc. He's nowhere near the same caliber player.

I agree with the rankings. Can't wait for Patiots at Saints down the road on MNF. geaux Saints! Peyton Manning is playing incredibly well, and I see Minnesota losing at Pittsburgh outside in the cold on that crappy grass they have over there.

10/21/09
5
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:
People are going to laugh at me but Kyle Orton is a serious front runner for the MVP right now!
I'm not even going to laugh at that. I'm just going to sit here and shake my head, perhaps even throw in a facepalm, I don't know.


10/21/09
0
SaintDrew wrote:
LOL no way. Denver is a solid team, Orton just doesn't make mistakes. But he's certainly not the league's MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ahead of Manning, Brees, Peterson, Brady etc. He's nowhere near the same caliber player.

I agree with the rankings. Can't wait for Patiots at Saints down the road on MNF. geaux Saints! Peyton Manning is playing incredibly well, and I see Minnesota losing at Pittsburgh outside in the cold on that crappy grass they have over there.

I never said he would win it, all i said is he is up there in the top 3 or 5 for MVP. Again, he will not win it but he should get a fair amount of votes. If i were to vote my top 3 would be 1: Drew Brees 2: Peyton Manning then 3: Kyle Orton.


10/21/09
0
Pat wrote:
I'm not even going to laugh at that. I'm just going to sit here and shake my head, perhaps even throw in a facepalm, I don't know.

Thank you, Pat.  I was trying to think of what to say to that, but the words weren't coming.  Despite my insistence that Orton is doing a great job, I harbor no fantasies that he's even remotely close to any of the current MVP candidates.  

10/21/09
0
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:

I never said he would win it, all i said is he is up there in the top 3 or 5 for MVP. Again, he will not win it but he should get a fair amount of votes. If i were to vote my top 3 would be 1: Drew Brees 2: Peyton Manning then 3: Kyle Orton.

One more thing, you and i and everyone else know that he is not in the Same class as Brady Brees and Manning but you do not have to be in that class to win an MVP award. An mvp award SHOULD go to the best player on one of the best terams in the league. Right now Kyle Orton is one of the best players on one of the best teams in the league.

10/21/09
1
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:

I never said he would win it, all i said is he is up there in the top 3 or 5 for MVP. Again, he will not win it but he should get a fair amount of votes. If i were to vote my top 3 would be 1: Drew Brees 2: Peyton Manning then 3: Kyle Orton.

Sorry I can't back you on this.  I'd put Adrian Peterson in the top three with Peyton and Drew (don't know about order, though).  I think even Joe Flacco would deserve to be in the top 4. He's a dropped pass and a missed field goal from being 5-1 and he's the only thing keeping the Ravens respectable right now thanks to the defense's drop-off.  Also, personally, if I had to choose an MVP for the Broncos, I'd be choosing Dumervil right now (Champ Bailey would be a close second)

10/21/09
4
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:
One more thing, you and i and everyone else know that he is not in the Same class as Brady Brees and Manning but you do not have to be in that class to win an MVP award. An mvp award SHOULD go to the best player on one of the best terams in the league. Right now Kyle Orton is one of the best players on one of the best teams in the league.
No, he's the QB on one of the best teams in the league. Not one of the best players, he's just at a high profile position. Being a QB doesn't automatically make you one of the best players on your team. Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall, for example, are both far better players than Orton. As Blake just pointed out, Elvis Dumervil is having what could potentially be an all-time great season, and Champ Bailey is one of the best shutdown cornerbacks in the league. The Broncos have some excellent players, but Kyle Orton is not at the top of the list.

10/21/09
0
Hi there lol my post just vanish, i guest i will keep it short and sweet saint's played a good game against my guy's last week , I would like to see if they will make it to the SBOWL . GAINTS STILL HAS A GD DENFENSIVE / OFFENSIVE /SPLIT LAST WEEK IN THEIR COVERAGE OF MANNING BUT SAINTS DEFENSIVE WAS OFF THE HOOK ALSO WHICH THROW MY GUY'S OUT OF POCKET .NOW THE GAME TO WATCH IS ARIZONA VS GAINTS THIS WEEK ARIZONA QUATERBACK IS FEEL GOOOOOOOOOD LET'S SEE IF HE CAN BRING HIS GAME LOLHMMM OK ENOUGH ALREADY  MY PREDICT GAINT'S LOL.SKYEBONYPRINCESS.

10/26/09
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JanettaWard wrote:
Hi there lol my post just vanish, i guest i will keep it short and sweet saint's played a good game against my guy's last week , I would like to see if they will make it to the SBOWL . GAINTS STILL HAS A GD DENFENSIVE / OFFENSIVE /SPLIT LAST WEEK IN THEIR COVERAGE OF MANNING BUT SAINTS DEFENSIVE WAS OFF THE HOOK ALSO WHICH THROW MY GUY'S OUT OF POCKET .NOW THE GAME TO WATCH IS ARIZONA VS GAINTS THIS WEEK ARIZONA QUATERBACK IS FEEL GOOOOOOOOOD LET'S SEE IF HE CAN BRING HIS GAME LOLHMMM OK ENOUGH ALREADY  MY PREDICT GAINT'S LOL.SKYEBONYPRINCESS.
Good Morning - what happen to my Giants ? i can say my pick on sunday giants vs card was sooooooooo way out there ,tell me i am not dreamin , hey i have to give credit were credit is due the cards shock the rib right out of my mouth , i have always related food w/ football because you should enjoy yourself while watchin the game or any game for that matter . yes ,yes, yes, what can i say you can't get them all right all the time huh, so check this out even though Card's won congrat's on their game just alittle reminder NFC East Standings Giants won 5 loss,2,t 0 pct 714 pf 195 pa 143 / COWBOYS won 4 loss2 to pct667 pf159 pa119/EAGLES won 3 loss 2 t 0 pct600 pf 136 pa 99/REDSKINSwon 2 loss4 t 0 pct 333 pf 79 pa 96 , I need to cook , huge pot of beef stew plenty of carrots ,so my Guys can see were as a Team were they went wrong. My Giants went into this game w/ their eye's close i mean w/ them Closed YOU SEE YOU DONT ASSUME and the pass is the pass . i am sure they felt this was their's and so did i.so once again a lesson to be learn never wear your sunglasses at night . what do you think maybe they will sent for me a ticket so i can cook a good meal for them the night before and share w/ them my thought's on the coming game a good hot meal is always good for the soul , signing out Janetta Ward thank you .

10/26/09
0
Hey, Janetta it happened to my Falcons too, I couldn't sleep sunday nite. But theres always next week  damn we got the Sains next.  FalconTony

10/26/09
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FalconTony wrote:
 The Falcons ride herd over the cow-boys. Should move up to #5 this comming week. They're better than pretty good and they'll prove it this week.
hey falcontony - thank you for your reply , yes i can't believe it you know saints 2 years ago or maybe more or less when reggie bush step on the scene i thought ok maybe but they weren't good then but now , what a story the team look's good but again i would love to see where the team go from here . it's not over until who sing's so good luck next week . when it's all said and done how well did they play ,did they give it away or do you make worth the while hmm. have a good evening , janetta

10/26/09
1
CUBBY4LIFE wrote:
People are going to laugh at me but Kyle Orton is a serious front runner for the MVP right now!
I think there is a much better chance of McDaniels getting coach of the year than Orton winning MVP.

 
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