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9/16/07
NFL Sunday Live Fan Thread - September 16th
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I'm often asked how you can watch two straight days of football. I usually ask myself how I manage to get through the other five days. Sufficiently entertaining day of college football yesterday, today should prove to be an educational day of the NFL version.

We jump to so many conclusions after Week 1 without any consideration for the opponent. Right now the Lions are on the up and up, Patriots have won the Super Bowl, Roethlisberger is going to pass for 300 touchdowns and the Bears can't run the football. Let's put all these on hold for at least another hour. We should learn a lot today.

Quick thoughts on this afternoon's games:

49ers at Rams
Was it just the Cards or does SF have a top defense? The latter.
Bills at Steelers
Cutler passed over Buffalo, Big Ben will too
Packers at Giants
Gunslinger should have a field day, Giants still win
Falcons at Jaguars
Over/under on Joey Harrington pick 6's: 1.5 ... I'll take the over
Bengals at Browns
How is this still a touchdown spread? Vegas, you're on notice.
Texans at Panthers
Barometer for Houston against a real team. I'm buying.
Colts at Titans
VY did it last year, VY will do it this year.
Saints at Bucs
Ok, Take 2 Drew Brees. Resume regular schedule programming.
Cowboys at Dolphins
Experts like the Fish. Experts should pick up fishing.
Seahawks at Cardinals
Buzzsaw are going to take this, promise.
Vikings at Lions
Purple Jesus! All Day!
Raiders at Broncos
McCown or Culpepper, it won't matter.
Jets at Ravens
Kellen Clemens should be starting, and get the win.
Chiefs at Bears
If the spread was 24, I'd still take Chicago.

Feel free to cheer on your team, rip on the rest right here.
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9/16/07
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Elisha just managed to throw a pick straight to a 350-lb man wearing bright yellow. Not quite sure how she didn't see him.

9/16/07
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I can't believe the spread in Jets/Ravens is 11.5.  That's absurd!

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
I can't believe the spread in Jets/Ravens is 11.5.  That's absurd!
A lot of odd spreads this week don't you think?

Bengals anyone from 7-9 points favorites.
Saints only 3.5
Bears only 12

9/16/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
A lot of odd spreads this week don't you think?

Bengals anyone from 7-9 points favorites.
Saints only 3.5
Bears only 12

I dunno.  I need some help after getting destroyed in spreads last week.

 

Hmm, Fox just showed the tape that the Patriots were cheating with.  It was showing the coaches, then the scoreboard for down, then to the coaches.


How'd they get that lol?

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:

I dunno.  I need some help after getting destroyed in spreads last week.

 

Hmm, Fox just showed the tape that the Patriots were cheating with.  It was showing the coaches, then the scoreboard for down, then to the coaches.


How'd they get that lol?

That was interesting. I'm sure the NFL gave out that small clip to fans understand what they were doing. I think it's important to share. Take note of that, baseball.

9/16/07
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Whoops. Messed up that one.

"He told me his mom (deceased) would want to play"

9/16/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
Whoops. Messed up that one.

"He told me his mom (deceased) would want to play"
LOL I heard that.  Good job Baldinger...

9/16/07
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I only get one game early (stupid Lions) but at least I can watch the Colts whomp Tennessee.  Got KC/CHI and DET/MIN later.

9/16/07
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(Edited by MrNFL)

TD Joseph Addai!


Blocked PAT D'oh!

9/16/07
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The NFL has the oddest blackout rules. The Cardinals are at home this afternoon, which means I get no early game on Fox.

Too bad for them, I have SopCast, so I can watch the Giants/Packers game.

9/16/07
1
Carolina owning the Texans right now, my rank of them at 6th seems more justified by the minute.

9/16/07
0
Soooo, New Orleans. Any day now.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Carolina owning the Texans right now, my rank of them at 6th seems more justified by the minute.
Assuming of course you think the Texans are also a top team.

9/16/07
1
Don't know bout you guys but I love how Jeremy Shockey takes a cheap shot at AJ Hawk and hasn't done anything since... granted its only the 2nd quarter.

9/16/07
0
Bryant Gumbel applauds himself for using the word fortuitous. Doesn't even announcer use that term when a pass is deflected or football is fumbled into the right hands?

This is why the Gumbel's bother me.

9/16/07
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Wow, maybe the Saints just suck.  Down 14-0 to the Bucs?  Wow, all of those people who have them in the Super Bowl have got to be a little worried.

9/16/07
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Someone needs to tell Cincy that they're playing the Browns.  13-7?

9/16/07
0

Nice throw by Eli... hes really coming around so far this year.

9/16/07
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kantwistaye wrote:

Nice throw by Eli... hes really coming around so far this year.

He has to step up, they don't have a real proven runner like they used to.

9/16/07
0
Anthony Gonzalez' first NFL reception was one of the best catches I've seen so far this year. Brought the ball down in tight double coverage, and then picked up another big chunk of yards on the next play, with his 2nd catch.

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
Anthony Gonzalez' first NFL reception was one of the best catches I've seen so far this year. Brought the ball down in tight double coverage, and then picked up another big chunk of yards on the next play, with his 2nd catch.

No kidding.  Heckuva pass too.  Not sure what they were thinking there at the end hurring up on the last play...

 

Wow...the Saints are bad...that is all.

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
Anthony Gonzalez' first NFL reception was one of the best catches I've seen so far this year. Brought the ball down in tight double coverage, and then picked up another big chunk of yards on the next play, with his 2nd catch.
It was. I was surprised he hadn't caught a pass in the first game.

9/16/07
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The Steelers backup jerseys are hideous.

9/16/07
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Wow, another TD for the Browns.  The Bengals D continues to be awful.

 

Maybe we'll have a game like a few years back were they scored like 100 points combined.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
The Steelers backup jerseys are hideous.
It looks like someone traveled back to the 70s and stole the Padres uniforms.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:

He has to step up, they don't have a real proven runner like they used to.

I honestly think the Giants will be better off without Tiki... he became a locker room cancer.

9/16/07
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Dan Dierdorf will bear Payton Mannings first born!

9/16/07
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Dan Dierdorf is an idiot.  He was raving about the "Great coverage" by a Colt DB when the DB never looked for the ball and the pass just bounced off the receivers face.

9/16/07
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The Saints are awful, that is all.  28-0 to Tampa?

9/16/07
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Yeah, so much for Carolina.  31 unanswered to Houston...

 

Wow, the NFC South looks bad this year.

9/16/07
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When did Armani Toomer turn into a dirty bastard?  Apparently Shockey and Plaxico are wearing off on him. 

9/16/07
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There are really some poor color commentators in the NFL. Simms and Aikman are the only ones that know what they are doing.

9/16/07
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shschill wrote:
There are really some poor color commentators in the NFL. Simms and Aikman are the only ones that know what they are doing.
Eh, Simms is incredibly annoying IMO. 

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Eh, Simms is incredibly annoying IMO. 

But he is good at reading the plays and actually making sense during the broadcast. I think they all can be annoying during the game.

9/16/07
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(Edited by Janse)
Was not the biggest Schaub fan when he left Atlanta, but does he make THAT big of a difference? Houston is beating down on Carolina.

9/16/07
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(Edited by Jon)
Vinateri is having a rough day. One extra point blocked, and a 20 yard FG was just barely good after bouncing off the crossbar.

9/16/07
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Janse wrote:
Was not the biggest Schaub fan when he left Atlanta, but does he make THAT big of a difference? Houston is beating down on Carolina.
He hasn't been sacked all game, some credit definetly deserves to go to the OL.  Great game for Schaub though.

9/16/07
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Jon wrote:
Vinateri is having a rough day. One extra point blocked, and a 20 yard FG was just barely good after bouncing off the crossbar.

Yeah, "Gold Foot" hasn't had the funnest day.

 

But as all TV networks would remind us, he's never missed at the RCA Dome lol.

9/16/07
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What the hell is this field made of in Tennessee? It looks like a combination of grass and sand.

9/16/07
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Did someone replace Vinatieri with Vanderjagt???  Sheesh...shanksville...

9/16/07
0
Well, I'm glad I didn't have the Saints in the NFC Championship like everyone else.

9/16/07
4
Elisha just managed to throw a pick straight to a 350-lb man wearing bright yellow. Not quite sure how she didn't see him.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Well, I'm glad I didn't have the Saints in the NFC Championship like everyone else.
Tell me about it.

Noting like getting the national championship's running back in the 7th round. Go Wynn!
Simpson was arrested if that didn't show on your screen.

9/16/07
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Janse wrote:
Tell me about it.

Noting like getting the national championship's running back in the 7th round. Go Wynn!
Simpson was arrested if that didn't show on your screen.

Saw that, dumb O.J.

 

Wow, stupid Colts.  You can run the clock out in the last two minutes, or you can throw two incompletions...idiots...

9/16/07
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The Colts terrible clock management might cost them this game...ugh.

9/16/07
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(Edited by Janse)
Colts were very lucky in the end.

9/16/07
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Wow, that game could have been a lot worse...Geez Colts...giving me a heartattack...

9/16/07
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Buzzsaw time!

9/16/07
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When was the last time the Browns put up 50? So much for the calls for Quinn for at least one week.

9/16/07
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51-38 Browns? WTF?

9/16/07
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Thoughts on the early action.

 

Tampa 31 Saints 14.  Wow, just wow.  The Saints secondary is pathetic, they allowed 24 yards per completion...and Garcia only completed 10.  No sacks, Galloway owned.  Saints are in trouble.

 

Jags 13, Atlanta 7.    Zzzzzzzzz, wait huh?  Oh yeah, the Falcons kicker is bad.  0-2, good job Matt Prater.  He'll get cut...

 

Green Bay 35. Giants 13.  Packers D is for real.  

 

Pittsburgh 26, Buffalo 3.  Another great performance against a mediocre team.  Still want to see the Steelers beat someone good.  Great game by Parker.

 

Colts 22, Titans 20.  Colts had some dumb clock management in the end, they could have easily lost that.  D was pretty good against the running backs.

 

49ers 17, Rams 16.  Called that upset.  Steven Jackson shut down again.  But 6 sacks by the 49ers D, the Rams are already missing Orlando Pace.

 

Texans 31, Carolina 21.  Talk about blowing a lead.  It looks like Kubiak has set that line straight, 0 sacks allowed.  If they can block that well each week, we'll see a lot of Andre Johnson from Schaub.

 

Arena Bowl.  Not over yet, but wow the Bengals defense is terrible.  Defense has 0 sacks for the Bengals, allowing 5 TD passes to the Browns is awful.  And Jamal Lewis with over 200 yards?  You know you D is awful when that happens. 

9/16/07
1
Whoa, the Cardinals just blocked a punt! I don't know how to react to this because nothing like this has ever happened before.

9/16/07
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(Edited by Janse)
This is going to be a Carson Palmer moment.

9/16/07
0
Janse wrote:
This is going to be a Carson Palmer moment.
You were saying?

9/16/07
0

Fantastic INT to end the game for the Browns.


Palmer was really forcing those last couple. 


9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
You were saying?
Well if he didn't throw it into triple coverage...

9/16/07
0
Larry Fitzgerald is a beast. That is all I have to say.

9/16/07
0
Hester with his first td this season. 73 yards

9/16/07
0
Looks like Devin Hester is still pretty good.

9/16/07
0
Is anyone going to score some of the pick em games?  4 of those have been over for an hour and still aren't scored.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Is anyone going to score some of the pick em games?  4 of those have been over for an hour and still aren't scored.
Taken care of.

You're getting murdered against the spread, btw. 1-5 so far.

9/16/07
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Cardinals up 17-7 at halftime despite Rackers hitting the upright on a 53-yard attempt as time ran out.

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
Taken care of.

You're getting murdered against the spread, btw. 1-5 so far.

Yeah, 2nd straight week the spread has killed me.  I'm considering next week picking the opposite of what I think will happen.

 

To be fair, FanIQ's majority picks also went 2-6 against the spread, so I wasn't the only one sucking this week. Did alright elsewhere.  5-3 straight up, 6-2 on the o/u.

9/16/07
0
Devin Hester is a freakshow! Another awesome return for good ol #23. Man if only Rex could hit that screen pass to Devin he'd be gone for 6!

9/16/07
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I got the Bears winning 27-10

 

9/16/07
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Where is everybody?  lol

9/16/07
0

The Lions are  beating the Vikings... not surprised, Detroit will be a decent team this year.

9/16/07
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kantwistaye wrote:

The Lions are  beating the Vikings... not surprised, Detroit will be a decent team this year.

Kitna  just got  hurt and Vikings recovered a  fumble for A TD    17 ALL~

9/16/07
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joetrivwhiz24 wrote:
Kitna  just got  hurt and Vikings recovered a  fumble for A TD    17 ALL~
Kitna's been hurt for a while.  He was out early 2nd.

9/16/07
1
Well if Kitna is hurt forget that whole Lions being decent thing.

9/16/07
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kantwistaye wrote:
Well if Kitna is hurt forget that whole Lions being decent thing.
Looking at the numbers, O'Sullivan and Kitna are almost dead equal on the day.  He just has an extra INT. 

9/16/07
0

Wow, Flea Flicker for a TD?


Illegal shift...what a shame.

9/16/07
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Great fg block by Idonije!

9/16/07
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(Edited by joetrivwhiz24)

Shoot! we should have signed Kitna when  he left Cincinatti. Rex sux another interception this  guys  gonna  give me  an  ulser!

 

Great tipped pass by Peanut Tillman into the arms of Daniel Manning! The Bears D is killer!

9/16/07
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Rackers 42 yard field goal with 1 second left!

CARDINALS WIN!

9/16/07
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(Edited by MrNFL)
Jon wrote:
Rackers 42 yard field goal with 1 second left!

CARDINALS WIN!
Joy, an incorrect pick...

Wow Fox showed the play that gave the Cards the ball back, that was a horrible giveaway.

9/16/07
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What a time to blow a game winning kick by Jason Hanson...

9/16/07
1
Fascinating piece right now on Football Night in America about Everett's injury, and how Dr. Cappuccino's actions in the ambulance gave him a chance of recovery by cooling his body temperature. Amazing.

9/16/07
0

Wow, Longwell matches Hanson by clunking a 52 yarder off the post.

 

Sheesh...

9/16/07
0
No Olbermann tonight unfortunately, he had his appendix taken out on Friday.

9/16/07
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Jon wrote:
No Olbermann tonight unfortunately, he had his appendix taken out on Friday.
I know that sux Olberman rules

9/16/07
0
Bears are gonna be 1-1  Yay!

9/16/07
0

Well, Bennetts fumble just ended any chance at the Chiefs coming back.

 

Brooks Bollinger in for the Vikings?  Eh???  Where's Holcomb?

9/16/07
0
The injured Ray Lewis with a huge pick to secure it for the Ravens.  Jets battled back and almost got it.

9/16/07
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Wow Denver, your tied with Oakland.  That's not so good.

9/16/07
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10 turnovers in Lions/Vikings, brutal.


LOL, Kitna just caught his deflected pass for a gain of 9.

9/16/07
0
Lions going for the game winner to ruin another one of my picks today...Hanson's 37 yd kick is....money.

9/16/07
1
Another wrong pick coming if Fat/Bald Janikowski makes a 52 yarder....kick is...perfect...but the Broncos called a timeout in time, I heard the whistles.  Nice call by Denver, whew.

9/16/07
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Off the Goal Post!!!  That kick had the distance for +60, but low snap, left goal post...the top of the upright.

9/16/07
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The Broncos barely won last week against a bad Buffalo team, and now they almost lose to the Raiders? This does not look like a very good football team.

However, ingenious coaching move by Shanahan to ice Janikowski.

9/16/07
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HUGE first down for the Broncos right there.

9/16/07
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Wow, great play by Marshall.

 

Should be an easy game winner for Elam now.

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
The Broncos barely won last week against a bad Buffalo team, and now they almost lose to the Raiders? This does not look like a very good football team.

However, ingenious coaching move by Shanahan to ice Janikowski.
How is it ingenious if everyone does it, and it almost never works?

9/16/07
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NFL MVP thus far: Jason Elam. Literally won 2 games for the Broncos so far. Not sure if anyone else can say that right now.

9/16/07
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I hate the Broncos. That is all.

9/16/07
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Denver once again barely gets a win.  But I suppose a win is a win.

9/16/07
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gearhead wrote:
How is it ingenious if everyone does it, and it almost never works?
If it works, that makes it brilliant. Just like every other strategy that works some of the time. For that moment, it was the absolutely perfect move, and it won them the game.

9/16/07
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gearhead wrote:
I hate the Broncos. That is all.
You pick Oakland or something?

9/16/07
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Jon wrote:
No Olbermann tonight unfortunately, he had his appendix taken out on Friday.
Damn. KO doing highlights >>>>> Costas doing highlights.

9/16/07
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Bob Costas just had a look like "Thanks, guys", after they ripped Goodell, then he had to mention his upcoming interview with him.

9/16/07
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MrNFL wrote:
You pick Oakland or something?
No, I just hate Denver thanks to Elway and Super Bowl XXXII.

9/16/07
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(Edited by gearhead)
Pat wrote:
If it works, that makes it brilliant. Just like every other strategy that works some of the time. For that moment, it was the absolutely perfect move, and it won them the game.
How can something that every coach would've done, regardless of whether it works normally or not (which it doesn't) be brilliant?

9/16/07
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gearhead wrote:
How can something that every coach would've done, regardless of whether it works normally or not (which it doesn't) be brilliant?
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt about

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt about it!

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt about it! If he

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt about it! If he doesnt

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
No doubt about it! If he doesnt do that the

9/16/07
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Pat wrote:
It won them a game which they would have otherwise lost. It was the single most important decision in the game, and Shanahan and the Broncos played it perfectly. Or, you could even say they played it brilliantly.
The most important decision in the game....that every coach in the league would have made. Shanahan was just in the right place at the right time.

 
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