NFL Week 10 Live Thread

Time To See Just How Far The Bengals Have Come [Week 10 NFL Live Thread]

11/15/09 in NFL   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

It's Sunday again, and time for NFL football. The biggest early game of the week is definitely the Bengals visiting the Steelers, in what could eventually determine AFC North supremacy. The Bengals are undoubtedly for real, but are they good enough to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh? The Steelers have been playing some of the best football in the league lately, so it's a tall task.

Here's the schedule:

1:00
Bills at Titans
Lions at Vikings
Jaguars at Jets
Falcons at Panthers
Buccaneers at Dolphins
Bengals at Steelers
Broncos at Redskins
Saints at Rams

4:00
Chiefs at Raiders
Eagles at Chargers
Seahawks at Cardinals
Cowboys at Packers


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11/16/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

zzj000 wrote:
WORST coaching decision I have seen in quite sometime!!!   Not sure the Pats could have stopped the Colts from going 80 yds in 2:00 minutes anyway.... but you HAVE to think their chances were better stopping them from going 80 than 29....... BONEHEAD!!!

I agree. Bill Belichick embarrassed himself in this game. Words can not describe how upset I am about this game.

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

WORST coaching decision I have seen in quite sometime!!!   Not sure the Pats could have stopped the Colts from going 80 yds in 2:00 minutes anyway.... but you HAVE to think their chances were better stopping them from going 80 than 29....... BONEHEAD!!!

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

(Edited by zzj000)

35-34   BEST Guys!!!

COLTS are 9 - 0    baby!

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

TD.... Manning to Wayne....... NICE COMEBACK COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Whatcha got to say bout that PAT???

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

Nice decision Belichik...... COLTS BALL inside the Pats 30. What a bonehead!!~!

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

zzj000 wrote:
Colts SCORE................ 7-0 Good Guys!

17-7 better guys.

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

Colts SCORE................ 7-0 Good Guys!

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
Really?  I'd argue that the Steelers and Bengals are pretty darn even this year.

It's hard for me to say that two teams are even when one team beat the other in both of their games.

11/15/09   |   Scott   |   54816 respect

I'm not one for moral victories but despite the loss to the Saints, I'm seeing drastic improvement from the St. Louis Rams from game 1 to know.  They could've easily folded after the Saints returned the second half kickoff for a touchdown but they didnt, they kept playing and the actually had a chance to win the game late.  Now, the goal is to continue to get talent thru free agency and the draft and continue to turn this around

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

kramer wrote:
Really?  I'd argue that the Steelers and Bengals are pretty darn even this year.

Really?   Even Steelers Safety Ryan Clark was quoted after the game as saying "They are CLEARLY the best team in the division".

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

zzj000 wrote:
Kramer..... the reason the Steelers lost is because they were beaten by a better team. Blame it on whatever makes you feel better.

Really?  I'd argue that the Steelers and Bengals are pretty darn even this year.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
See... I say it's a group effort all the time, win OR lose. That's when most Steelers fans start tuning me out. I realize you're misunderstanding my entire point, so I'll just let it go.

 No, I'm not missing your point.  Your point is that I am specifically placing the blame entirely on the O-line.  I am not doing that, I am equally spreading the blame where it should go.  You need to stop lumping ME in with the rest of the Steelers fans around here, because that's exactly what you're doing and you fail to see how incredibly wrong you are by doing so.  Until you realize I'm not one of the homer Steelers fans you love to ridicule, you really should quit.

/end

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

kramer wrote:
 Wrong, what I said is that it was a group effort.  You say it's solely on Roethlisberger.  Try again, Pat, you're batting 1.000 today trying to call me out, a.k.a. you're failing miserably.  I will put the blame where it should go, and today that blame should be spread out between Ben, the O-line, and special teams, and THAT is the fact.

Kramer..... the reason the Steelers lost is because they were beaten by a better team. Blame it on whatever makes you feel better.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 Wrong, what I said is that it was a group effort.  You say it's solely on Roethlisberger.  Try again, Pat, you're batting 1.000 today trying to call me out, a.k.a. you're failing miserably.  I will put the blame where it should go, and today that blame should be spread out between Ben, the O-line, and special teams, and THAT is the fact.

See... I say it's a group effort all the time, win OR lose. That's when most Steelers fans start tuning me out. I realize you're misunderstanding my entire point, so I'll just let it go.

11/15/09   |   adrisoto86   |   117 respect

 Big win for the Pack today against a hot offense! The defense stepped up big time! Now if we could just work on the penalties and the O-Line we'll be just fine.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
Right, but the default response is still "blame the o-line".

You:Steelers offensive line::Me:Roethlisberger

Fact.

 Wrong, what I said is that it was a group effort.  You say it's solely on Roethlisberger.  Try again, Pat, you're batting 1.000 today trying to call me out, a.k.a. you're failing miserably.  I will put the blame where it should go, and today that blame should be spread out between Ben, the O-line, and special teams, and THAT is the fact.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

38 seconds until cowboys get shut out for first time since 03..... and they score. damn!

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

When was the last time this "Monster of a Defense".... Green Bay... shut out Anyone?
The Cowboys should have to WALK back to Big D instead of being allowed to fly in luxury.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

joe buck and troy aikman calling a cowboys game. thats new.

11/15/09   |   Aceraison   |   183 respect


So I'm a little late, I had to work today, it still sounded sweet on the radio.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

big win for the super chargers. now they are tied for the west lead.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

todd haley is wearing a texan polo and a chiefs hat. can he do that?

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

Pat wrote:
Tony Romo is terrible today.

Tony Romo is terrible today always.
fixed that for ya.

11/15/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Good job Bengals. We didn't deserve it.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

Tony Romo is terrible today.

11/15/09   |   SportzStar   |   102 respect

These NFC East teams are scary.



Scary inconsistent.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

mcnabb up to 412 yards passing. zero running game, however is hurting philly

11/15/09   |   zzj000   |   388 respect

Can we please start calling the Broncos what they reall y are.... an Average at best football team that even if they make the playoffs will be 1 and done.

And I say AGAIN... Why do  people jump back on the Cowboys Are For Real bandwagon when they beat an NFC East team? The NFC East is WEAK and so are the Cowboys!

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 I did not say they should take all of the blame.  I also never said Ben was innocent today.  Stop insinuating that I did.  You lose.  Have a nice day.

Right, but the default response is still "blame the o-line".

You:Steelers offensive line::Me:Roethlisberger

Fact.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
The same could be said for every offensive line, if every loss. Bottom line:
YOUR QUARTERBACK'S SH*T STINKS.
STOP THINKING THAT IT DOESN'T.

That is all.

 I did not say they should take all of the blame.  I also never said Ben was innocent today.  Stop insinuating that I did.  You lose.  Have a nice day.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 I'm not putting the blame solely on the O-line, simply saying that they have to take SOME of the blame for today's loss.  Anybody who thinks they shouldn't be held responsible did not watch that game.

The same could be said for every offensive line, if every loss. Bottom line:
YOUR QUARTERBACK'S SH*T STINKS.
STOP THINKING THAT IT DOESN'T.

That is all.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
Except the Packers fans complain about a lot more, and don't blame their O-line for literally everything. They acknowledge that there are other issues, and complain about them all. Steelers fans, on the other hand, probably think that their offensive line caused the recession, Hurricane Katrina and racism.

 I'm not putting the blame solely on the O-line, simply saying that they have to take SOME of the blame for today's loss.  Anybody who thinks they shouldn't be held responsible did not watch that game.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 If you're not going to equally ridicule Packers fans for complaining about their O-line blunders, you just need to keep quiet.

Except the Packers fans complain about a lot more, and don't blame their O-line for literally everything. They acknowledge that there are other issues, and complain about them all. Steelers fans, on the other hand, probably think that their offensive line caused the recession, Hurricane Katrina and racism.

11/15/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
 If you're not going to equally ridicule Packers fans for complaining about their O-line blunders, you just need to keep quiet.

We admit our QB often holds onto it too long.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
I know you never specifically said that, but if to listen to Steelers fans, that's what one would think. You guys seriously act like the Steelers are the only team that plays against a defensive line.

 If you're not going to equally ridicule Packers fans for complaining about their O-line blunders, you just need to keep quiet.

11/15/09   |   SportzStar   |   102 respect

Missed opportunities by the Eagles put this game at 14-6 instead of potentially 14-14.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
Bravo, captain sarcastic. I never said he's the only QB that is ever hurried, but to say that the O-line can't take any blame for today's miserable performance on offense is ridiculous.

I know you never specifically said that, but if to listen to Steelers fans, that's what one would think. You guys seriously act like the Steelers are the only team that plays against a defensive line.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
I feel so bad for Ben Roethlisberger. He is the only QB in the league who is ever hurried. That poor guy... how does he survive?

Bravo, captain sarcastic. I never said he's the only QB that is ever hurried, but to say that the O-line can't take any blame for today's miserable performance on offense is ridiculous.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 The o-line also failed miserably, there were several plays where Ben didn't even have any time to throw.

I feel so bad for Ben Roethlisberger. He is the only QB in the league who is ever hurried. That poor guy... how does he survive?

11/15/09   |   ChefZay   |   4 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Roethlisberger was pretty damn bad.  It certainly wasn't the defense's fault. Special teams didn't help, but the offense only put up 12 points.

Carson palmer tried his best to give the game away. bengals weakest link the QB...

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Roethlisberger was pretty damn bad.  It certainly wasn't the defense's fault. Special teams didn't help, but the offense only put up 12 points.

 The o-line also failed miserably, there were several plays where Ben didn't even have any time to throw.

11/15/09   |   mk_donley   |   2554 respect

Bengals won, Vikings won, Saints won (barely), Jaguars won, Dolphins won, Titans won, PANTHERS WON??? That's a shock!.......Wait!.......What?.......REDSKINS WON??????? GET OUT!!!!!!!
SOMEBODY PINCH ME!

11/15/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4219 respect

I get the feeling that the Cowboys could blow this open at anytime but for whatever reason just haven't yet.  Sloppy game overall, but I expect it from the Packers.

11/15/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4219 respect

kramer wrote:
 The whole team was pittiful today.  I certainly hope you're not putting the loss solely on him, and will at least distribute the blame equally.

Roethlisberger was pretty damn bad.  It certainly wasn't the defense's fault. Special teams didn't help, but the offense only put up 12 points.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
I don't need to. Just read the one I already wrote. I almost thought that he was going to prove me wrong this season, and he was doing it, for a while. But then, this game happened. Their biggest game of the year, and he undeniably sucked.

 The whole team was pittiful today.  I certainly hope you're not putting the loss solely on him, and will at least distribute the blame equally.

11/15/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

I'll take lucky plays like that though. I'm not picky.

11/15/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
I hate this Packers team.  We're going to get carved up by the Cowboys.  Only chance is Romo having one of those "How the heck is he an NFL QB" games he has every once in a while.

What's frustrating is how they look like they could dominate but they. just. don't. have. it. So aggravating.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
 Shut the favre up, Pat.  I suppose now you're gonna go write another "Big Ben is overrated" article to feed your ego a little more.

I don't need to. Just read the one I already wrote. I almost thought that he was going to prove me wrong this season, and he was doing it, for a while. But then, this game happened. Their biggest game of the year, and he undeniably sucked.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

badgermann wrote:
Still think when all is said and done that the Steeler's will find a way to make it to the super bowl. I like the Bengals and they have showed that they are for real but not ready to crown them just yet. In other news the falcons are not going to make the playoffs.

 That win today guaranteed them the division unless they fall flat on their face in their last 7 games.

11/15/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4219 respect

I hate this Packers team.  We're going to get carved up by the Cowboys.  Only chance is Romo having one of those "How the heck is he an NFL QB" games he has every once in a while.

11/15/09   |   SportzStar   |   102 respect

DOLPHINS!!!!!

11/15/09   |   badgermann   |   30 respect

Pat wrote:
Ben Roethlisberger is so clutch.

Still think when all is said and done that the Steeler's will find a way to make it to the super bowl. I like the Bengals and they have showed that they are for real but not ready to crown them just yet. In other news the falcons are not going to make the playoffs.

11/15/09   |   lavabuster   |   30 respect

I am loving the Bengals right now......My April playoff prediction for em is about to come true!!!

11/15/09   |   xtra_ill   |   539 respect

Congrats Bengal fans.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Awful offensive outing just awful.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

(Edited by kramer)

 Shut the favre up, Pat.  I suppose now you're gonna go write another "Big Ben is overrated" article to feed your ego a little more.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

That's it, game is over, that's the most embarrassing game I've seen this year from the Steelers, and 200% UNACCEPTABLE!

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

Ben Roethlisberger is so clutch.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 I don't care how good the Bengals are this year, being swept by them would be a complete and utter embarrassment for the Steelers.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Bengals with another field goal 18-12 with 1:56 left to play, the Steelers have played less than mediocre.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Steelers have to drive down the field in a hurry and score a TD.

11/15/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Percy Harvin just made a run after getting hit that I think only 4 or 5 people in the NFL could have made.  Unbelievable talent. 

11/15/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

Jones-Drew kneels at the 1 instead of taking the touchdown, well played.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 I'll state this again for the record, the Steelers have clearly played to lose this game, with or without Polamalu.

11/15/09   |   brucek863   |   50 respect

Bengals and Steelers keep getting field goals.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Pat wrote:
I forget... which of these two gentlemen have led the league in INT's in a season? Brady never has... that's all I know.

But sure... congrats to Big Ben on throwing 14 less INT's in 41 fewer games. If, when Ben has played in 121 career games, he has less than 91 career INT's, I'll chop off my left arm and eat it.

I'm just making a point you act like Ben is the worst QB in the league. But the numbers beg to differ.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Let's see Ben has 8 this season and 77 career, Tom Brady has 5 this season and 91 career so I guess you could actually say he Brady'd it.

I forget... which of these two gentlemen have led the league in INT's in a season? Brady never has... that's all I know.

But sure... congrats to Big Ben on throwing 14 less INT's in 41 fewer games. If, when Ben has played in 121 career games, he has less than 91 career INT's, I'll chop off my left arm and eat it.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

And the Steelers settle for another field goal 12-12 tied up again.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 The Steelers are playing to lose this game.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

What a bad spot.

11/15/09   |   SportzStar   |   102 respect

Come on Dolphins, time to finally unleash a killer instinct. Put the game away on this possession.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Great defensive hold by the Steelers now the offense needs to put the ball in the end zone not another field goal.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Pat wrote:
Hahaha... Ben with a glorious interception. He Roethlisberger'd it.

Let's see Ben has 8 this season and 77 career, Tom Brady has 5 this season and 91 career so I guess you could actually say he Brady'd it.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Holy crap, I never knew Brett Kiesel could jump that high!

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Steelers O-line looks like it's falling apart in this game.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
Hahaha... Ben with a glorious interception. He Roethlisberger'd it.

Shove it.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

kramer wrote:
That hurts, and if someone blames that throw on Ben you're retarded.

Hahaha... Ben with a glorious interception. He Roethlisberger'd it.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Steelers defense holds and forces a FG try.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

That hurts, and if someone blames that throw on Ben you're retarded.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

And the Steelers have to settle for another field goal this is getting ridiculous 9-6 Steelers lead.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 9-6 Steelers.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 That was an incredibly stupid penalty by the Bengals defender, the ball wasn't going to be caught anyway.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 He came back in, but yeah he's in pain.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

kramer wrote:
 Hip strain for Cedric Benson, questionable return.

He's back in there

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Hip strain for Cedric Benson, questionable return.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Once again the Steelers couldn't get into the end zone and have to settle for a field goal 6-6 all tied up.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Steelers have to settle for the tie.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

A nice punt return by Stefan Logan set up a short field for the Steelers, they're trying to punch it in to retake the lead.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Good punt return by Logan

11/15/09   |   jswol54   |   20827 respect

redsox1002003 wrote:
actually i think minnesota doesnt play detroit tough, and plays down to the lions level.

Nah, they are division foes that know each other well.  The Vikings are clearly the superior team, but on any given Sunday, any team can win. 

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

jswol54 wrote:
Is it just me or does it seem like Detroit always plays Minnesota tough?

actually i think minnesota doesnt play detroit tough, and plays down to the lions level.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pat wrote:
Oh boy... time to brace yourselves for the entire city of Pittsburgh to whine like Sidney Crosby until Troy Polamalu comes back. Ugh...

Har har.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

Oh boy... time to brace yourselves for the entire city of Pittsburgh to whine like Sidney Crosby until Troy Polamalu comes back. Ugh...

11/15/09   |   mk_donley   |   2554 respect

Polamalu tweaked his knee. Return: Doubtful.

11/15/09   |   jswol54   |   20827 respect

Is it just me or does it seem like Detroit always plays Minnesota tough?

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Oh great, Polamalu might be out for the rest of the game.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

adrian peterson fumbles handoff to harvin. lions take over

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

saints and rams suprisingly the only game still deadlocked at 0.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

And then the Bengals return the kick off for a touchdown, 6-3 Bengals.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

i think im the only person in the world who is not getting the steelers/bengals game.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 PAT botched.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 I guess there's no flag on that, bravo Steelers, your special teams continue to be special ed.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

lions punt on 4th and 4... and the vikings are offsides. first down detroit.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Pat wrote:
To drive down the field and set up a missed field goal? I think he's capable of that.

He is capable of that but Jeff didn't miss.     3-0 Steelers

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Steelers were able to march a lot further than the Bengals, Reed didn't miss.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Oh BTW, the Bengals were very smart to snap the ball before Tomlin could challenge because the other angle showed that Coles never got his second foot down.

11/15/09   |   Pat   |   5235 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Bengals miss field goal, alright Ben its your turn.

To drive down the field and set up a missed field goal? I think he's capable of that.

11/15/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Whoa, that was a cool angle with the camera on the goal post.

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Bengals miss field goal, alright Ben its your turn.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

minnesota is just toying with the lions, but cant capitalize in the red zone. up 3-0.  the bucs and jags also strike first blood. lead 3-0 and 7-0 respectively.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

broncos already score and lead 7-0. this is gonna be a LOOOOONNNNGGGG day for the skins.

11/15/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

congrats to brett favre for starting in his 300th consecutive game. whether we love him or hate him, the guy is durable.

11/15/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

Picks today:

Titans over Bills 13-10
Vikings over Lions 34-6
UPSET Jaguars over Jets 17-13
Falcons over Panthers 24-14
Dolphins over Buccaneers 27-13
Steelers over Bengals 20-17
Broncos over Redskins 20-10
Saints over Rams 47-13
Raiders over Chiefs 16-13
Cowboys over Packers 30-17
UPSET Eagles over Chargers 24-20
Cardinals over Seahawks 27-17

11/15/09   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

This will be the tough match up for both of these teams, both are playing hard right now. It will be a real challenge for the Bengal's coming into Hines field and control this game like they did for the biggest part of there first match up at Paul Brown Stadium. Good luck to both team today. GO STEELERS