Picks sure to go wrong:
Bills 24- 49ers 20
Colts 33- Browns 20
Redskins 17- Giants 13
Ravens 24- Bengals 13
Packers 20- Panthers 13
Dolphins 30- Rams 23
Buccaneers 27- Saints 21
Falcons 27- Chargers 24
Jets 37- Broncos 20
Patriots 16- Steelers 13
Raiders 19- Chiefs 16
Vikings 20- Bears 17
Jaguars 27- Texans 20

Bears/Texans are two that make me go "Ughh...." because it could go either way.  Rams and Saints are too bad to win I think, and the Chargers always find a way to lose this year, even against a team I don't trust in Atlanta.

We'll see, the NFL never tends to make sense on a week to week basis, and I'm not one to pick too many big upsets.

The wind is whipping here (Tampa) with regular gusts in the 30+mph range....Running offense and defense will win this one ..advantage: Buccaneers

Lock of the Week : Ravens -7 over the Bengals. Cincy will come out flat and Ravens ground game will roll

I just don't trust any team in a "West" division at ALL.  And I hate the NFC South, because I often get burned, but going against the Saints has worked more times than not for me.

Where the hell do you get your info from?!!....I wouldn't dare comment on the Broncos or Avs in detail because I don't live there. You are totally INCORRECT! Gruden should've been gone long ago but apparently the Glazers love him and the only way he goes is if the old man dies and the kids listen to the fans.

Um, I s Sean Payton ever going to learn? You don't run reverses on the Buccaneers defense....turnover on downs

This is as good of a chance as the Rams have to win there 3rd game this year.  Not only is Steven Jackson back but CBS sent Mr. Excitement, Gus Johnson, to do play by play.  If the stars were ever aligned for an upset, this would be it

Sean Payton might be the most overrated coach in football right now.  He took over a rebuilt Saints team with a weak schedule, did well with that for one year, and hasn't done jack since.  That offense is all because of Brees, not anything Payton does.

Hey look, Braylon Edwards dropped a pass!

IM SICK OF THE NFL !!!...COLTS R DOWN 6-3 AT HALFTIME IN CLE??? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT??? NFL FINES THERE PLAYERS FOR HITTING EACH OTHER TOO HARD..AWWWW...POOR OTHER NFL PLAYERS. BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE SEASON THEY SELL "SEASON HARDEST HITS" ??? WHATS THE HELL IS THAT ABOUT. NFL JUST KEEPS GETTING  CRAPY EVERY YEAR. IT IS NOTHING LIKE THE 80'S OR 90'S. YES NFL IS THE BIGGEST SPORT THAT MAKES MORE THEN ANYONE....FOR NOW MY FRIENDS...NFL IS SUCHJ A FREAKIN JOKE NOW. MANNING ON THE 1 YARD LINE...FUMBLES??? AGAINST CLE??? COLTS SHOULD BE UP 17 - 0. NO OFFENSE TO BROWNS FANS..TRUST ME..IM A CHIEFS FAN.  I ENJOY UR OCCASSIONAL UPSETS , BUT COMMON....EVERY YEAR EVERYONE TALK ABOUT PANTHERS AND THE SUPERBOWL...PROBABLY FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS NOW !!!  WHAT 1 SUPERBOWL APPEARENCE !! I KNOW ITS A HARD THINGS TO DO. BUT I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND...THEN U HAVE THE SORRY ASS LIONS...WHO I THINK IS 1 -20..WHAT THE HELL IS GOIN ON THERE??? PULL THE TRIGGER ALREADY !!!! THEY JUST GOT DEMOLISHED AND EMBARRESSED ON THANKSGIVING. TEAMS SHOULD BE KILLING OTHER TEAMS BUT THEY SHIT THE BED !!. I DONT KNOW. MAYBE ITS JUST ME BUT THE NFL IS GETTING WEAKER AND WEAKER AS TIME GOES ON. THE NFL SHOULD HIT UP DANA WHITE AT UFC AND TAKE NOTES. DANA HAS TURNED UFC INTO A HATED SPORT THAT WASNT DOING ANYTHING TO BEING UP THERE WITH THE NFL.  I GIVE MY WORD...UFC WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE NFL...BY FAR !!! UFC IS IN GERMANY...DUBLIN...ENGLAND....SOONER OR LATER ..IT WILL BE EVERYWHERE AND I CANT WAIT. NFL IS WEAK NOW !!!!! JUST AKS'S URSELF'S...IN THE LAST 15 YEARS OR EVEN 10 YEARS....HOW DO U THINK THE NFL HAS DONE...BETTER OR WORSE..IN UR OPINION. T.O CRYING FOR HIS QB ??? GROW SUM NUTS MAN !!!! THESE GUYS GET PAID MILLIONS, AND THEY DONT SAVE ANYONE'S LIVES !!! WHAT BOUT DOCTERS OR FIRE FIGHTERS..COPS EVEN...I BET THEY DONT MAKE 50 MILLION IN 5 YEARS. THAT GOES FOR ALL SPORTS. U HAVE GUYS GETTING ARRESTED AND COUGHT WITH DRUGS, OH BUT THEY SAY THERE SORRY AND THERE LIVES R CHANGED...HAHAHA BULLSHIT !!! GO DANA WHITE AND THE REST OF MMA, WHO WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE NFL IN A FEW MORE YEARS !!!! I LUV ALL SPORTS...WELL MAYBE EXCEPT WNBA. SO VOICE UR OPINIONS...HIT ME UP !!!!!!!!! OH YEA...MCNABB NOT KNOWING THE RULES WAS JUST ICING ON THE CAKE..HE MADE PROBABLY WELL OVER 300G'S THAT GAME !!! I HAVE NEVER PLAYED IN HIGHSCHOOL OR COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND I EVEN KNEW THAT. LIKE I SAID JUST WATCH

I CANT BELIEVE I JUST WROTE ALL THAT...HAHAHA. IM NOT SAYING THE NFL ISNT ENTERTAINING OR ANY OTHER SPORTS. BUT THINGS NEED TO CHANGE.

I was about to post the exact same thing.

Minus the caps lock, I hope. That hurt my eyes.

 If the Niners f**k this up I'm gonna......well I'm gonna

 NINERS WIN!!

And I picked Buffalo to be a playoff team at the halfway point.  That was stupid

Because the Packers a) couldn't punch the ball in from the 1, b) had another secondary collapse, and c) threw a pick immediately after, the season is over. Don't assume 0-16 from the Lions yet.

Oh s***, Ed Hochuli is in Foxboro.

OH SH*T!!! Once again Ben leaves the defense with a short field!

That's just what he does.

Holy hell, Washington actually held onto a pass that was thrown right to him!  Those are the ones he always seems to drop.

Call me old school but lies are not rumors..they're ..well, ... just made up bull
I know you hate ESPN just like I do. Jon Gruden NEVER NEVER said he wanted to go anywhere. But, some guy thought  'Hey Jon Gruden was once a quality assurance assistant at Tennessee 20 years ago and he met his wife Cindy there...WHOA! That must mean he wants to go coach there!, boy am I brilliant' ....That's like me assuming that you are a huge soccer fan because you live in Denver...I guess I could make up crap too: How's this Latrell Sprewell will join the MMA with a specially promoted match where if he chokes his opponent out he will make an extra $20,000 ..and his opponents nickname:...wait for it...P.J.     natuarally
I guess it's just that you want to make some noise by making stuff up. I wish Jon Gruden would leave, and I hope thast your made up story has legs, ...but I know better, because I live here and I see that guy every day.
btw, how's that Cardinal juggernaut goin?

Edited for language -gearhead

I guess it's the editor in me.
I haven't once said anything about the Buccaneers this season other than they have a top three defense. If they can lock up the #2 seed, they should be able to get to Giants Stadium then lose the G-Men.
My locks should have been making money as they've been correct when offered.
The author of this thread would've lost money on the Dolphins today unless he played the money line which I'm sure would've netted no more than $35 on a $100 bet

Chiefs up 10-3 thanks to a 68 yard fumble recovery for a TD...Thanksgiving just passed, please don't do this to me again KC...

Cue the Twilight Zone theme in NE.

Great coverage there by Ike Taylor. What a moron.

In a few years, Dan Dierdorf is going to sound just like Lou Holtz. Hopefully he knows when to quit.

What great hands Randy Moss has today.

Tell me something I don't know.  I hope Pat wasn't surprised at that blatant interference by Taylor on Moss.  I can't stand the guy, IMO he's replaceable.

FUMBLE!  The Steelers got a first & goal!

Ward would not be denied!  TOUCHDOWN!

Matt Cassell, say hello to James Harrison.  The wheels are falling off for the Pats in this quarter.

Cassell lost it again!  Ryan Clark is off the hook, but he still should look for a fine for that stupid hit.

Thank you, Ben Watson.  That pick is a lot more costly than Ben's on the opening drive of the game.

That FG may have just been the nail in the coffin.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Matt Cassell has had a worse game than Big Ben, put that in your pipe and smoke it, Pat!  Oh, and uhh, TD Steelers and that's the game.

Wow, the QB stats for Cassell stick out like a sore thumb.  Check this out, this is what happens when you go up against the #1 defense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh	Comp	Att	Yds	Pct	Y/A	Sack	YdsL	TD	Int	Rating
B. Roethlisberger	17	33	179	51.5	5.4	1	7	2	1	75.2
New England	Comp	Att	Yds	Pct	Y/A	Sack	YdsL	TD	Int	Rating
M. Cassel	18	37	149	48.6	4.0	4	21	0	2	36.9

You know what's funny? Cassel is still a better QB. Anyone who DOESN'T have a good game against the Patriots secondary needs to think twice about their status as an NFL QB.

And I think it's hilarious that you're sitting here bragging about a game in which your QB barely hit 50% of his passes against some of the worst CB's in football, and only had a 75.2 rating. Congrats... that's really awesome.

I'm deleting all my 2008 Chargers games from the Hard-Drive immediately!!! (Don't know why I was saving them anyways) The Chargers have no O-Line, no D-Line, No LB help, and just plain have no HEART at all this season!!! Michael "The Burner" Turner > L.T.  I feel bad for the season ticket holders who have seen the Chargers go 3-3 at Home this year...Pathetic! Just Pathetic!!!

What makes you think "Better than Ben" = into the pantheon?

Ben Roethlisberger is garbage. Saying someone is better than Roethlisberger is basically like saying they're an above average QB. My question is... how drunk are you, acting like "better than Ben" is even a compliment?

I posted that so you personally could see just how badly the Steelers murdered Cassell.  Roethlisberger threw 2 TDs, Cassell threw none.  Cassell got picked off twice, fumbled twice, and got sacked 4 times.  If you watched the game, you also saw the same thing I did, which was a lot of passes on target that were dropped.  Granted not every single pass was a dropped ball, but your stats are going to decrease when your receivers drop about 4 or 5 passes and you have to throw it away a few times.  There was also the ball that Vrabel tipped at the line, which was just a good play on Vrabel's part because the ball was thrown over him like it should've been.  So let's take out the good play by Vrabel, the dropped passes, and every QBs favorite thing, throwing the ball away, and that's maybe 5 passes AT THE MOST thrown by Roethlisberger in this game that were bad decisions by him alone.  You're just pissed because you can't come to terms with the fact that someone you love to hate outperformed your Patriots, it goes against your incredibly biased beliefs.

More important than any Pats/Steelers game that obviously nobody cared about too much...Chiefs beat the Raiders...Huzzah.

Excuse you?  Making fun of team names and cities is the stupidest thing you can do.  Making a reference to the KKK is really ignorant, and I don't care if you think you were trying to joke or not, that was totally uncalled for.

You act like they don't go anywhere else.  Those rallies get overshadowed by the NAACP in these parts and how they act like they're the only race that matters.  That's a discussion for another time though since it has nothing to do with football, which is what this thread is for.  So let's cut the KKK garbage and stick to football.

I never wanted to see Turner go...Not because I don't back up my boy L.T., but because the Chargers needed a guy like Turner to step into L.T.s role this year...L.T was nursing that foot injury, so he could have played the back-up role to Michael Turner all year untill they were both options at starting RB which would have just killed defenses...You can't pass the ball effectively without a good running game...The Broncos came up big today in N.Y. I give them my props as the West Division is now theirs!!!

2 complete failures in this comment...

#1) Ben Roethlisberger is not a football team. He is a quarterback. I repeat, he is not a football team. Therefore, he does not have a winning percentage. So checking it would be useless.

#2) I did not lose to anyone or any team today. I am sitting in a cafe at a Borders bookstore in Hyannis, Massachusetts. I did not take the field at Gillette Stadium for the Patriots. I didn't even really COMPETE in anything today. Therefore, I didn't "lose to a better team".

If you're referring to the Patriots, then so be it. They did indeed lose, and they were indeed the inferior team this year. Congrats to the Steelers and their fans. Your team won a game today. That's wonderful. You should all be so very proud.

Steelers fans are very proud, thank you.  They are now 9-3 and maintain the division lead over Baltimore.

Roethlisberger had a solid performance as a rookie too.  Let's see if Flacco continues this for another couple years before making that comparison.

He almost died in 2006.  So uhh yeah, he was bad that year, but for obvious reasons.  Last year he had a career year, and this year he's done well with sore shoulders and whatever other injuries he's had.  He had 2 bad games, which is where all the INTs piled up.  Besides that, he hasn't had a terrible year.  I don't see how you can really say he's progressively declined since 2004 though, especially with how well he performed last year.

Psst, hey guys, what does your IQ and a sex poll have to do with football?  Sticking to the topic at hand for this thread seems like a great idea.

Rabble Rabble Rabble!

It appears someone didn't like my post about not feeding the trolls and removed it while elsewhere on the Q I see A LOT of posts that should be removed.


********* politics.

Drew Brees Has An Arm Of The Gods   ...until he plays a real defense

Thanx for givin me a thumbs up, im glad im not the only one who feels this way. I just got thumb downs because they all like the nfl. Did  u see the boxing?? dela hoya?? thats what im saying...boxing is done !!! finsished !!!. i gave it a try and paid $65 and all i got was 4 old geeezer's talking a word a min. and then watched a guy who just fought for the money just get embarrased, the whole thing was sad. Boxing is over !!! MMA is going to be the new NFL in a few years.

Whats the big deal with CAPS??? How does it annoy people? There just words, just a little bigger...GET OVER IT !!!

BECAUSE ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO READ AND EVERYONE JUST ASSUMES PEOPLE WHO USE CAPS LOCK ARE UNEDUCATED OR REALLY REALLY OLD.

So basically you should type like a normal person would.