NFL Week 14 Live Thread

The Stretch Run Starts, Will Excitement Come With It? [NFL Week 14 Live Thread]

12/9/12 in NFL   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Blog Photo - NFL Week 14 Live ThreadI'll be frank. On paper, most of today's games do not look very exciting. With the exception of the Monday nighter, there are no games between two above .500 teams (although at least most of the 6-6 teams are playing winning teams). Some of the games in fact just look awful. Luckily, they still have to play the games, and hopefully in practice they will be much better as the last quarter of the season begins.

With Jess at CenturyLink Field today, you get me as your substitute teacher. Joining us today is ironhead_mike, who has been around these parts for a long time. Take it away, Mike.

Special Obsolete Thursday Night Pick: Denver at Oakland

Mike: Two teams on opposite ends of the spectrum. For a game that at the outset of the season looked interesting… Peyton Manning and the Denver defense will be the ones doing ransacking and looting. Broncos by 10+.

Eric: I didn't watch a minute of this game, assuming the Broncos would roll, which they did. No one seemed to notice that the Raiders are in as much disarray as any other team.

St. Louis at Buffalo

Mike: The Rams are awful away from home and the Bills… well they’re home away from home in Toronto. You never know what you’re going to get out of either of these teams. I’m taking the mistake prone Bills by 9.

Eric: Quick correction, this is not the Bills annual Toronto game. That said, I agree the Bills will win, since the Rams appear to be one of the few offenses not equipped to take advantage of Buffalo's awful D.

Dallas at Cincinnati

Mike: Both are coming off much needed wins last week.  I’m not sold on the Cowboys win last week. The Bengals won while on the road last week while not playing their best. I’ll take Cincy at home in a close one by 4 or less.

Eric: Mike wrote the above before the tragedy involving the Cowboys this weekend. I pick the Bengals, and have nothing more to say about this.

Blog Photo - NFL Week 14 Live ThreadKansas City at Cleveland

Mike: The Chiefs banded together last week and came out with a win while the Browns have quietly won 4 of their last 7. The Chiefs are on the road and come back down to earth this week. Browns by 7.

Eric: With all due respect for the tragedies both teams have suffered, Woof. (Pick: Cleveland)

Tennessee at Indianapolis

Mike: The Colts coming off a come from behind on the road in Detroit will get a break this week against a Titans team that has lost 4 of the last 5 including to Indy at home. Colts cruise to a 10+ point victory.

Eric: The Colts are not a great team yet, but keep finding to ways to steal wins. If the Titans show up, they actually could win this game. I don't think that's going to *happen*, but I'm not discounting the possibility.


Chicago at Minnesota

Mike: Even though the Vikes are 5-1 at home and the Bears just lost the heart and soul of their defense for the month of December – it’s hard to have a lot of confidence in a team led by Ponder who is in a real funk right now. Both team score over 23 points, but the Bears win by 7 on the road.

Eric: Has anyone else noticed yet that the Bears have one win over a team with a winning record, and that was the Colts in Week 1 (a very different Colts team than we have now)? That said, Ponder's been awful, and Purple Jesus can't do it all, so the Bears win.

San Diego at Pittsburgh

Mike: Like the Eagles, the Chargers ship is sinking fast. The Steelers defense is playing well and if Big Ben is playing you have a recipe for a Steelers win by 10+ points.

Eric: Ben playing means a Steelers win. Of course, given the Chargers, Chaz Batch playing would also mean a Steelers win.

Philadelphia at Tampa Bay

Mike: The Eagles have mailed in the season and Tampa is getting hotter as the year goes on. Bucs by 13+ points.

Eric: Let's see, a team that plays hard, has good young talent, and is coached by an insane person, or a smoldering dumpster fire? I think I'll go with the former on that one. (Pick: Tampa)

Baltimore at Washington

Mike: This game could be interesting with the Ravens looking to sew up the division and the ‘Skins looking to sneak into the playoffs. I’m going with the home team since Baltimore’s defense is banged up, Flacco does not play nearly as well on the road, and Washington is playing for a playoff spot. Redskins by 4 points.

Eric: While there is certainly animosity between Baltimore and DC as cities, I'm not sure how much of that matters with the football teams since they don't play each other enough. In other words, despite those that will try, I don't think it's much of a rivalry. To the extent that it is though, this is pretty accurate. The Skins fans rebuttal is convincing.

Atlanta at Carolina

Mike: Barring a colossal melt down, Matty Ice and the Falcons should have their way with the Panthers. Atlanta has been playing great defense of late and should give Cam Newton fits. Falcons by 13 points.

Eric: In the last two years, the Panthers are a remarkable 0-11 in games decided by a touchdown or less. The conventional wisdom would put that all on Cam Newton and Ron Rivera. However, a lot of that (minus the bad Rivera decisions) comes down to straight up luck. Since the Falcons never blow anyone out, Carolina should have a chance to break that streak. I'm throwing caution to the wind and say the Panthers luck changes in my Upset Special.

N.Y. Jets at Jacksonville

Mike:
Two teams who each are dealing with injuries and poor play from key positions. If Sanchez can throw the ball to the right jerseys the Jets win. Jet by 9 points.

Eric: Woof. Just show the Sanchez Butt Fumble on an endless loop instead. (Pick: Jacksonville)

Miami at San Francisco

Mike: The Niners are still smarting from losing a game they probably should have won. The Dolphins are playing decent defense, but their offense has been anemic. Look for San Fran to take the win at home by 10 points.


Eric: As the Most Annoying QB Controversy Not Involving a Religious Symbol rolls out, my guess is the WAC Off Player of the Year does enough to both keep his job and win against a Dolphins team that I honestly know very little about.

New Orleans at N.Y. Giants

Mike: Tough game to call. The Giants are at home but are playing awful right now. The Saints have a lot of
offensive fire power but making too many mistakes on offense. The defense has looked better than the offense which speaks volumes as to why they’ve lost the last two games. It’s hard to believe the Brees will have three Blog Photo - NFL Week 14 Live Threadbad games in a row and that the Giants won’t snap out of their string of poor play. What should happen is the Giants beat the Saints 33-31.


Eric: Giants, I guess. You try figuring out what these teams will do week to week.

Arizona at Seattle

Mike: The Cards have lost 8 straight and the ‘Hawks are playing at home where they are the toughest to beat. Skelton is back relieving Lindley in the hopes of getting the offense going. I see the Seahawks winning by 13 points or more.


Eric: The Buzzsaw go back to John Skelton, the answer to a question no one asked. Seattle, meanwhile, is starting to get talked up as a real contender. If they are in fact one, they must crush Arizona at home. That's what truly good teams do, beat the crap out of bad ones. While I do expect the Seahawks to win, I also expect Wilson to cool off a bit (i.e. throw a pick for the first time in 4 games). We'll see if they can show how good they are in the process.

Detroit at Green Bay

Mike: This game looks like it could be a high scoring affair. The Lions can score with the best of them which is good because their defense does not seem to be able to stop anyone over the past month. The Packers are looking to take control of, or at least stay even with the Bears. I’ll take the Packers at home finding enough defense to come out on top of the Lions. Packers by 6 and over 55 points scored.


Eric: Between injuries to Jordy Nelson and most every impact defensive player to a Swiss cheese offensive line to Mason Crosby's issues, the Packers have plenty of problems right now. For homer and Aaron Rodgers reasons though, I pick them to win. Detroit's terrible defense helps too.

Bonus Monday Night Pick: Houston at New England

Mike: ESPN must be licking their chops at what on paper looks like the game of the week. Both teams are playing at a high level and this should eb a great test for both. New England’s December record is insane and their home record in December is even better. However, they have injury issues and a defense that does just enough to win, but makes their fans pull their hair out. Houston has shown some lapses over the past month. I’m going with the Pats at home 27-23.


Eric: This is the part of the year where the Patriots just outscore everyone to make the world forget they can't stop a good offense. Thus, I pick New England.

Thanks Mike for your input! Q it up here throughout Week 14.
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12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

Whoever face the Arizona Cardinals next week, all I have to say is good luck...

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

kramer wrote:
The Chargers would've been officially eliminated with a loss today.  That means technically they're still in the hunt now as well, albeit on life support.  Dallas scares me, they're actually playing good in December and we may be without both Taylor and Woodley.  Philly has the same short week that the Bengals do, and the Eagles are horrible this year.  I'm not expecting them to actually win 2 in a row.

Dallas are fighting for their playoff lives as well...  In these last few weeks of football, it's every team for themselves...  Dallas will still come up short as far as making the postseason...  The Eagles are horrible this year but they pushed the Bucs 1 step under as far as being in the hunt...  The team that have nothing to lose can be the dangerous team down this stretch...  But yeah, as a Steeler fan, I would be rooting for the eagles to beat the Bengals since they are trying to steal the 6th AFC Wild Card Spot from the Steelers...  I can see the Chargers lose 1 more game in the last few weeks...

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

The Giants-Saints game was a fun matchup to watch...  

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

RaiderSteeler15 wrote:
That's true.   The Steelers aren't having a best season but Mike Tomlin is one hell of a coach to still have this team in the Hunt...  The Steelers play 2 divisional rivals -- Bengals and Browns (At Home) While Cincinnati plays us and the Ravens after they play the eagles this coming Thursday...  Cincinnati has a short week to Philly which could work against them...  I'm not sweating the chargers, they are done anyways...  You're right the Steelers are in a dogfight with the Bengals with the 6th AFC Wildcard spot.

The Chargers would've been officially eliminated with a loss today.  That means technically they're still in the hunt now as well, albeit on life support.  Dallas scares me, they're actually playing good in December and we may be without both Taylor and Woodley.  Philly has the same short week that the Bengals do, and the Eagles are horrible this year.  I'm not expecting them to actually win 2 in a row.

12/9/12   |   Scott   |   52897 respect

Hawks are just downright embarrassing the Cardinals

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

kramer wrote:
I wouldn't say playing the Cowboys and Bengals the next 2 weeks is very "favorable."  The game in Pittsburgh in 2 weeks against Cincy will basically be a knockout game.  Forget "coming out with more energy," they just got flat out outplayed today in so many ways.  Yes they'll keep fighting, but I can put my bias aside and admit that a team that has lost to the Chargers, Titans, Browns, and Raiders does NOT deserve to be in the playoffs.

That's true.   The Steelers aren't having a best season but Mike Tomlin is one hell of a coach to still have this team in the Hunt...  The Steelers play 2 divisional rivals -- Bengals and Browns (At Home) While Cincinnati plays us and the Ravens after they play the eagles this coming Thursday...  Cincinnati has a short week to Philly which could work against them...  I'm not sweating the chargers, they are done anyways...  You're right the Steelers are in a dogfight with the Bengals with the 6th AFC Wildcard spot.

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

So, for once my ramblings in the body of the post don't look stupid:

  • The Titans had a chance to beat the Colts
  • The Panthers won (although it wasn't a one touchdown or less game)
  • Seattle is proving that they are a good team by crushing Arizona
I didn't get everything right by a longshot, but I got more right than usual.

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

RaiderSteeler15 wrote:
Exactly, but it's good that the Bengals lost, San Diego just came out with more energy...  The Steelers are still in the hunt and we'll keep fighting until the end, the Steelers have a favorable schedule over the Bengals...

I wouldn't say playing the Cowboys and Bengals the next 2 weeks is very "favorable."  The game in Pittsburgh in 2 weeks against Cincy will basically be a knockout game.  Forget "coming out with more energy," they just got flat out outplayed today in so many ways.  Yes they'll keep fighting, but I can put my bias aside and admit that a team that has lost to the Chargers, Titans, Browns, and Raiders does NOT deserve to be in the playoffs.

12/9/12   |   JenX63   |   32647 respect

(Edited by JenX63)

Skins pulled it out, with the backup qb. 

I'm editing this to add, Griffin really needs to stop playing hero. Cousins is good in a pinch, but we seriously don't need Griffin sidelined for an extended period of time. 

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

kramer wrote:
We're still not a playoff team, but the Bengals and Ravens keep finding ways to give the Steelers a fighting chance.

Exactly, but it's good that the Bengals lost, San Diego just came out with more energy...  The Steelers are still in the hunt and we'll keep fighting until the end, the Steelers have a favorable schedule over the Bengals...

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

We're still not a playoff team, but the Bengals and Ravens keep finding ways to give the Steelers a fighting chance.

12/9/12   |   kobe_lova   |   61565 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Football is weird.

and great.

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Football is weird.

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

Eagles finally end their 8-game skid...   Bucs' defense proved that they are suspect...

12/9/12   |   RaiderSteeler15   |   21328 respect

Andrew Luck just keep Rolling!!

12/9/12   |   kobe_lova   |   61565 respect

Cousins!


Also, ravens should've tried a play or 2 in regulation with a timeout left. I didnt like that.

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

RGIII is hurt and limping bad.

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
World's Tiniest Violin there, chief.

smarta$$

12/9/12   |   kobe_lova   |   61565 respect

***holes!

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
Of course you are.  Everyone outside of Pittsburgh is.angry

World's Tiniest Violin there, chief.

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

This today will officially end Pittsburgh's chances of making the playoffs.  Yes there's still 3 games left, but playing this bad at home to a Chargers team who has self-imploded this year means you don't deserve to be in the postseason.

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I'm thoroughly enjoying the Steelers game.

Also, here come the Falcons...

Of course you are.  Everyone outside of Pittsburgh is.angry

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

I'm thoroughly enjoying the Steelers game.

Also, here come the Falcons...

12/9/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Umm, wtf happened to the Steelers here today?  They've never lost to the Chargers at home, this is highly embarrassing.

12/9/12   |   kobe_lova   |   61565 respect

Eric_ wrote:
You've got a chance at coming back still with Gus Johnson calling the game.

I'd take any kind of help right now. This is awful.

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

When I said that Luck acts the most rookie-like of the 3 big new QB's, plays like that pick 6 were a reason why.

Edit: It looks like the call was blown and his knee was down, but that was still a terrible decision to throw the ball as you're going down.

12/9/12   |   JenX63   |   32647 respect

I sure was hoping the defense would contain Flacco a little bit better.

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
I love when he speaks! Yay!


Also, my team is playing like *** already, but Go Falcons anyway!

You've got a chance at coming back still with Gus Johnson calling the game.

12/9/12   |   JenX63   |   32647 respect

Go Skins!

12/9/12   |   kobe_lova   |   61565 respect

I love when he speaks! Yay!


Also, my team is playing like *** already, but Go Falcons anyway!

12/9/12   |   Scott   |   52897 respect

Rams end the first quarter with zero first downs and 3 yards of total offense against the NFL's 30th ranked defense.

I'm going Christmas shopping

12/9/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

For the record, I think the strange formatting has to deal with me copying Mike's writing from an email, then typing my responses in the blog software. I don't know how to fix it, so meh.