NHL Thursday Night Live Thread 11/12

Pens/Devils Battle for Division Lead, Wings Scoring Machine Returns Home + 7 Other Games [NHL Live Thread]

11/12/09 in NHL   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

There are 9 games in all on this Thursday night, from Boston to San Jose, it's a full night of hockey across the U.S.  Yes, Canadian teams are playing tonight, but they're all playing on U.S. soil.  The night kicks off in Boston, where the Bruins are fresh off a 3-0 shutout of the defending Champs, and will now face the struggling Panthers.  2 high-powered offenses are in action in Philly, as the Flyers play host to the Senators.  The Thrashers are at MSG for a showdown with the Rangers.  2 struggling teams square off in Tampa, the Lightning and the Wild.  Detroit is back home against the Canucks, fresh off an ass kicking of the Blue Jackets in Columbus last night, a 9-1 laugher.  The Pens are on a 3-game losing skid, the first time they've lost back-to-back games under Dan Bylsma, and have been shut out for 7 straight periods.  Now they face the Devils at the Igloo.  Nashville travels to St. Louis where 2 teams who are trying to right the ship will mett.  The back and forth Habs go out to the desert for an evening with the Coyotes, who are still playing pretty well.  The finale of the night is again at the Shark Tank, where this time the Sharks are hosting the Stars.  Here is tonight's full lineup:

7:00 PM ET:
Florida Panthers @ Boston Bruins
Ottawa Senators @ Philadelphia Flyers

Atlanta Thrashers @ New York Rangers



7:30 PM ET:

Minnesota Wild @ Tampa Bay Lightning
Vancouver Canucks @ Detroit Red Wings
New Jersey Devils @ Pittsburgh Penguins

8:00 PM ET:
Nashville Predators @ St. Louis Blues

9:00 PM ET:
Montreal Canadiens @ Phoenix Coyotes


10:30 PM ET:
Dallas Stars @ San Jose Sharks

As always, this is the place to come and talk (or vent) about the game(s) you're watching tonight!

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11/14/09   |   bjenmdf

kramer wrote:
This year I know it's because of the injuries.  Last year I got called out for admitting how bad they were.  People kept telling me "they're fine, they're just struggling," and that was after they got shut out at home against Tampa Bay.  I do know the coach isn't the problem, Sykora is the only one I know that didn't like playing with Bylsma and he got his wish.  I have a lot more confidence in this team than I did when they started their huge slide last year, because they really were just playing badly.  I think what's bothering me the most is the fact that they've just been utterly embarrassed in these last 4 games.  I do have the confidence they'll come out of this when the injured guys take the ice again, and they'll start playing as well as they did to start the year, but right now it's extremely depressing.  I can guarantee you I didn't have that confidence at all last year.
 

you are a good person just because u like the steelers!!!!!!!

11/13/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dubya wrote:
Frustrating...yes. Gonna need a win vs Boston Sat. night. I'd still trade that for a Pitt win! Good night! Go Pittsburgh. HUGE Week here.

I'm a greedy SOB, I want both!  Looks like I'm gonna be getting push button fingers on Saturday night.

 

11/13/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
This year I know it's because of the injuries.  Last year I got called out for admitting how bad they were.  People kept telling me "they're fine, they're just struggling," and that was after they got shut out at home against Tampa Bay.  I do know the coach isn't the problem, Sykora is the only one I know that didn't like playing with Bylsma and he got his wish.  I have a lot more confidence in this team than I did when they started their huge slide last year, because they really were just playing badly.  I think what's bothering me the most is the fact that they've just been utterly embarrassed in these last 4 games.  I do have the confidence they'll come out of this when the injured guys take the ice again, and they'll start playing as well as they did to start the year, but right now it's extremely depressing.  I can guarantee you I didn't have that confidence at all last year.
 

Frustrating...yes. Gonna need a win vs Boston Sat. night. I'd still trade that for a Pitt win! Good night! Go Pittsburgh. HUGE Week here.

11/13/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dubya wrote:
This will actually make their depth better later in the season. I'm quite sure a few of the bodies on the bench would play if the season depended on it. I know they have to turn it around. I can only imagine what you were saying last year.

This year I know it's because of the injuries.  Last year I got called out for admitting how bad they were.  People kept telling me "they're fine, they're just struggling," and that was after they got shut out at home against Tampa Bay.  I do know the coach isn't the problem, Sykora is the only one I know that didn't like playing with Bylsma and he got his wish.  I have a lot more confidence in this team than I did when they started their huge slide last year, because they really were just playing badly.  I think what's bothering me the most is the fact that they've just been utterly embarrassed in these last 4 games.  I do have the confidence they'll come out of this when the injured guys take the ice again, and they'll start playing as well as they did to start the year, but right now it's extremely depressing.  I can guarantee you I didn't have that confidence at all last year.

 

11/13/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
I know they're losing these games because of the injuries, but this hurts the team tremendously knowing that they don't have any depth.  It's showing that they can't win at all, or even come close, with all these guys out of the lineup, and that is very depressing.  They desperately need, at the very least, Malkin and Gonchar back asap. :/  I'm praying that something like this doesn't happen in March, because if it does, we know based on what we're seeing right now that we are screwed.
 

Well they are building depth right now. We don't have any season ending injuries right now. It's not all that bad. Hockey is a grind. I'm betting some players would play later in the season despite their body injuries. Malkin will be back but he won't solve everything. Be patient.

11/13/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
I know they're losing these games because of the injuries, but this hurts the team tremendously knowing that they don't have any depth.  It's showing that they can't win at all, or even come close, with all these guys out of the lineup, and that is very depressing.  They desperately need, at the very least, Malkin and Gonchar back asap. :/  I'm praying that something like this doesn't happen in March, because if it does, we know based on what we're seeing right now that we are screwed.
 

This will actually make their depth better later in the season. I'm quite sure a few of the bodies on the bench would play if the season depended on it. I know they have to turn it around. I can only imagine what you were saying last year.

11/13/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dubya wrote:
If they lost those last 4 games with half of the players that are out right now I would have more cause for concern. Talbot and Kennedy are key contributors to the offense. No one has been able to take control of the powerplay without Gonchar. But that might be because the most capable guys to fill in Sarge's spot are also out at the moment. We've seen what they can do with a full roster. I don't want to wait until Febuary this year to turn it around, but I don't think we'll have to wait that long.

I know they're losing these games because of the injuries, but this hurts the team tremendously knowing that they don't have any depth.  It's showing that they can't win at all, or even come close, with all these guys out of the lineup, and that is very depressing.  They desperately need, at the very least, Malkin and Gonchar back asap. :/  I'm praying that something like this doesn't happen in March, because if it does, we know based on what we're seeing right now that we are screwed.

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
A 4-game losing streak worries me, no matter what time of year it is.  They're in big trouble until their D comes back.  I have no clue what's up with Kennedy, they clearly have no offense without Malkin, and Talbot will be a welcome sight on the ice, but honestly they didn't miss him before all these injuries happened.
 

If they lost those last 4 games with half of the players that are out right now I would have more cause for concern. Talbot and Kennedy are key contributors to the offense. No one has been able to take control of the powerplay without Gonchar. But that might be because the most capable guys to fill in Sarge's spot are also out at the moment. We've seen what they can do with a full roster. I don't want to wait until Febuary this year to turn it around, but I don't think we'll have to wait that long.

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dubya wrote:
Still too early for me to get real worried. It's not just the injuries but the caliber of the players that are injured that is taking a toll. That comes with having only 2 months off. Not really a Stanley Cup hangover but maybe fatigue leading to some early injuries? Geno should be back next game. The D guys should all be out a little while longer. What is up with Kennedy? I know Talbot is at least practicing with the red jersey.

A 4-game losing streak worries me, no matter what time of year it is.  They're in big trouble until their D comes back.  I have no clue what's up with Kennedy, they clearly have no offense without Malkin, and Talbot will be a welcome sight on the ice, but honestly they didn't miss him before all these injuries happened.

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
4-1 again for the Devils, they stay perfect on the road, the Pens can't do ANYTHING with the amount of injuries they have.  I am thankful that this is happening early, but they desperately need their veteran players back 5 days ago.
 

Still too early for me to get real worried. It's not just the injuries but the caliber of the players that are injured that is taking a toll. That comes with having only 2 months off. Not really a Stanley Cup hangover but maybe fatigue leading to some early injuries? Geno should be back next game. The D guys should all be out a little while longer. What is up with Kennedy? I know Talbot is at least practicing with the red jersey.

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

4-1 again for the Devils, they stay perfect on the road, the Pens can't do ANYTHING with the amount of injuries they have.  I am thankful that this is happening early, but they desperately need their veteran players back 5 days ago.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dubya wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as saying they need ALL their injured players back. They are just so depleted right now now we don't really have a top line. On offense OR defense. Glad its early in the season and they had an incedible start.

They need Malkin, Orpik, Gonchar, AND Letang ALL back.

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
I don't know who it was but FSN just picked up an f-bomb with the audio on the ice.
 

Clear as day too!

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
Don't worry, they'll easily beat the Pens again Saturday night.  It's become blatantly obvious that this team won't win another game with all these freakin' injuries.
 

Well they are so deppleted right now they don't have a top line on offens or defense. Good that it's early and they had that incredible start.

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

I don't know who it was but FSN just picked up an f-bomb with the audio on the ice.

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

kramer wrote:
3-1 Devils, there's a 4th game in a row down the f****n' drain!  It's official, the Pens are not winning another game until they get all their injured players back.
 

I wouldn't go as far as saying they need ALL their injured players back. They are just so depleted right now now we don't really have a top line. On offense OR defense. Glad its early in the season and they had an incedible start.

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

hartley51592 wrote:
it's rediculous how well the Bruins are playing without scoring. They gave up 1 shot on goal in the 2nd. Can I get a goal please?

Don't worry, they'll easily beat the Pens again Saturday night.  It's become blatantly obvious that this team won't win another game with all these freakin' injuries.

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Damn, two posts and a penalty for Crosby

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

(Edited by kramer)

4 on 4, f'n even up call.

 
 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Devils get a delay of game penalty, this is a MUST SCORE for the Pens.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

3-1 Devils, there's a 4th game in a row down the f****n' drain!  It's official, the Pens are not winning another game until they get all their injured players back.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pens will start the 3rd period on the PP, and I think if they have any chance of winning this game they have to score on this PP.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Devils take the lead on the PP, 2-1 heading into the 2nd intermission.  The Penguins had this game well in hand early and they've found a way to mess it all up again.  They said Malkin could be back on Saturday, they NEED him back DESPERATELY!

 

11/12/09   |   hartley51592   |   2462 respect

it's rediculous how well the Bruins are playing without scoring. They gave up 1 shot on goal in the 2nd. Can I get a goal please?

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Devils tie the game, it was inevitable.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Bob Errey= quote of the day: "Salvador for while there was looking like Billy Buckner."

 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

(Edited by Dubya)

About time the Pens put one in the back of the net. Wanted to kill Rupp when he missed that wide open one!

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

PENGUINS SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Brodeur is pleading his case but he never froze the puck, and Fedotenko finally got the puck in the net.  The long scoring drought is over, and more importantly, Brodeur will not break the shutout record of Sawchuk tonight.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Bryce Salvador just took a puck to the ribs.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

The Pens goal horn just went off on accident LOL.

 

11/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Brooks Orpik will officially be out for at least 2 weeks.