NHL To Investigate All Star Voting Fraud: Montreal Canadiens Fans Are Cheating

NHL Investigating Habs Voting Fraud: No Need, Here's The Proof

11/15/08 in NHL   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

The NHL has decided it will investigate potential voter fraud in the All Star voting. From what Puck Daddy found out, it looks like an open and shut case. I'll give it to you right here, in the simplest way I know how.

Here's the voting numbers that have been deemed suspicious:


Is it possible that these results could have been achieved through a fair vote? Sure, theoretically that's a possibility. However, these instructions for cheating were posted on a Canadiens web forum, which seems to explain the absurd numbers.
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Since the NHL prohibits automated voting, this looks like something that even much-maligned commissioner Gary Bettman can't screw up. Or can he? I'm not even sure what to suggest from here. Should Bettman restart the entire All-Star voting? Is there a way to eliminate only the automated votes? Can they tell how many people cheated, and how many votes are legit?

This is a tough situation for the NHL, but one thing shouldn't be tough: determining that the Canadiens fans did indeed cheat. Let's hope they don't get away with this one.


NHL Will Investigate Obvious All-Star Voting Fraud [Puck Daddy]
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11/21/08   |   kteacher   |   34390 respect

C032082s wrote:
The Pens should be the mad ones Crosby Malkin and Fleury would be leading right now if it wasnt for those cheating fans

Crosby and Malkin yes, but Fleury-----I would have King Henrik leading.

11/21/08   |   C032082s

The Pens should be the mad ones Crosby Malkin and Fleury would be leading right now if it wasnt for those cheating fans

11/19/08   |   Gregs711

The Montreal fans use a BOT and they're called enthusiastic.  How about this one?  Alexander Semin's count actually DECREASED!  On 11/15 he had 74,979 according to a screen shot from this website:  http://www.faniq.com/blog/NHL-To-Investigate-All-Star-Voting-Fraud-Montreal-Canadiens-Fans-Are-Cheating-Blog-14233.  Today he has SEMIN, Alexander 73825.  That's a LOSS of 1,154.  So do tell how this is even remotely fair?

11/15/08   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

huguesbrodeur wrote:

EdSpeshel, I'm this upset with these accusations, that I hope the NHL will be sued for creating this fan bashing controversy before going through with heir investigation. Any serious organizations wouldn't compromize a whole lot of people's reputation before going through with their findings. Which is done by the way. RDS.ca has said that the NHL confirmed them that there wasn't any foul plays involved in the votings. A rumor is never a proof. Tell me Ed, do you base all your articles on rumors? If yes, I think I'm just wasting my time with you. PS. How is it that you had two "smart" votes for your last comment?

So you're saying you honestly believe that the Montreal Canadiens have almost 4 times as many fans as any other team in the NHL, and ALL of them are voting for ONLY players on the Habs? Because if they're not cheating, that's what would it would have to mean.

Even IF that's true (which it's obviously not), then that simply means that Canadiens fans are idiots, and don't give a crap about Hockey.

11/15/08   |   kteacher   |   34390 respect

huguesbrodeur wrote:

EdSpeshel, I'm this upset with these accusations, that I hope the NHL will be sued for creating this fan bashing controversy before going through with heir investigation. Any serious organizations wouldn't compromize a whole lot of people's reputation before going through with their findings. Which is done by the way. RDS.ca has said that the NHL confirmed them that there wasn't any foul plays involved in the votings. A rumor is never a proof. Tell me Ed, do you base all your articles on rumors? If yes, I think I'm just wasting my time with you. PS. How is it that you had two "smart" votes for your last comment?

(Edited by kteacher)

Well, I gave him a smart because I agree with him.


AND I don't believe loyalty is the reason for all the Canadian players having such large leads.

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

EdSpeshel, I'm this upset with these accusations, that I hope the NHL will be sued for creating this fan bashing controversy before going through with heir investigation. Any serious organizations wouldn't compromize a whole lot of people's reputation before going through with their findings. Which is done by the way. RDS.ca has said that the NHL confirmed them that there wasn't any foul plays involved in the votings. A rumor is never a proof. Tell me Ed, do you base all your articles on rumors? If yes, I think I'm just wasting my time with you. PS. How is it that you had two "smart" votes for your last comment?

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

And one last thing, I'm not trying to tell you that the way the Montreal's fans are voting is the correct way. I'm simply explaining you why the votes for the Montreal players are so high. It's all about the loyalty concept around here.

11/15/08   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect

I'm guessing that Montreal is pulling the old "dead people voting" trick here. It looks like George Washington voted for Carey Price.

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

The Montreal are not just hockey fans who know their hockey, they're truly Montreal Canadiens Hardcore Fans. Their loyalty for the Habs is above every thing else. The worse Montreal player would have got more votes then Crosby and I understand it's hard for a non Montreal fan to understand this concept. People around here are simply fanatic about the Habs.

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

The Montreal fans are not voting for the best, they're voting for their team. It's all about loyalty and the Habs fans are the most loyal in the league. If it's upsetting people so much, which I undestand why, then the NHL should change it's voting format.

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

You're right about the idea that only the best should be voted for the All Star game, but there's also one more thing that wasn't mentionned any where. It's that it's the 100th anniversary season for Montreal and since the all Star game is going to be in Montreal this year, the fans are above all, loyal to the Montreal players.

11/15/08   |   kteacher   |   34390 respect

(Edited by kteacher)

My question is-------If the hockey loving fan base is greatest in Montreal, and there is no fix in place, why would these so-called hockey enthusiast not vote to see the "BEST" players in the league? Come on---Montreal has some pretty good players but they are not the best. For Crosby, Semin, Ovechkin, and others to be so far behind, cries foul in my book. BOO CANADIANS!

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

wrote:
Spoken like a true homer.  "a Maple leaf fan who tries to discredit Montreal".. he even blames the rival.  Just the fact that Alex Tanguay has more votes than Crosby, Semin, and Ovechkin combined shows this is a joke.

If you read carefully, you'll notice that the Maple Leaf thing wasn't serious. Englih is not my first language and I never took classes. It was just a poor attempt to make a joke and I apologize if I caused a "some kind of controversy". I do know that The Maple Leaf's fans have nothing to do with the idiot proposing the cheating software. About Tanguay beating all these guys, you would believe it if you have had voted just once on the NHL web page. Their format allows you to cast a ballot that include up to six players per conference. So if you follow my drift, Montreal fans are voting for all their six representatives on every votes. I'm not the biggest fan myself and I was still able to vote 150 + times for all six Habs players per vote. I have no doubt in my mind that the real hard core fans would do even more.

11/15/08   |   huguesbrodeur

This article is biased. It's obvious this writer has already condemned the Montreal fans. And by the way, The NHL has concluded that there wasn't any wrong doing. This fan who suggested to use a software is a real idiot for proposing to cheat and I can tell you this guy is not a real fan. Just a cheater and maybe worse, a Maple leaf fan who tries to discredit Montreal. Well, the idiot  theory is the more plausible but still, I can't believe a Montreal fan would really do that. Even if the All Star vote would be restarted, the same result would come up. I myself has voted about 200 times already and the new format with the new NHL alphabet letters recognition doesn't change that I was still able to cast a vote every 1 minute and 2 seconds apart. There's more hockey fans in Montreal then any where else in the world. I don't find it hard at all to believe these numbers.