Oklahoma State Fiesta Bowl victory over Stanford proves BCS is broken

Great BCS games can be replicated, but a championship is nothing without legitimacy

1/3/12 in NCAAF   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

If we learned anything from last night's Fiesta Bowl, in which Oklahoma State beat Stanford 41-38 in overtime, it's this: The BCS is trash.

Then again, most of us already knew that. We didn't need to see Andrew Luck and Brandon Weeden put on QB clinics just to prove that the BCS is the most ridiculous "playoff " system in all of sports. We didn't need to see Justin Blackmon overcome an inner thigh infection and still dominate just to realize that there's quality football outside the SEC. We didn't need to see an overtime thriller just to understand that a system that ignores undefeated teams is simply wrong.

Right now, there's no doubt in my mind that LSU has been the best team in the country. They're the only undefeated team left, and they've beaten a lot of quality opponents on the way there.

The issue is with Alabama.

Are they the 2nd best team in the country? Honestly, I think they are. And that's the main argument that you'll hear from Alabama and/or SEC honks who want to convince you that this National Championship matchup is the right one. But I also believe that I've seen a whole lot of teams who were more talented than the eventual champions. I've also seen a lot of outstanding championship games/series who didn't feature the top two teams in the sport.

Also, placing all bias to the side, there's really no logical way to say that Alabama is definitively better than Oklahoma State. Or Stanford, for that matter. They might be better. Most people believe they are. But how do we know? If you're honest, you'll admit that you don't.

Comparing resumés between Oklahoma State and Alabama, there are a few glaring differences. Alabama obviously has the "better" loss. There's no debating that. Even though it was at home, a 3-point overtime loss to the best team in the country is nothing to be ashamed about. Oklahoma State lost to a clearly inferior opponent in Iowa State, so that hurts them a bit. But still, it was in double overtime, and it was on the road. Give Alabama the benefit of the doubt and credit them with the "better" loss, but it's a lot closer than people like to think.

As far as their quality wins go, Oklahoma State is the clear leader. They beat teams who were ranked 8th, 10th, 14th and 22nd at the time they played. Looking back and seeing where everyone ended up, credit them with wins over teams ranked 8th, 12th, 14th and 24th.

Alabama's ranked victims at the time of their games: 12th, 14th, 23rd and 24th. If you look at the final rankings before the bowl games started, Alabama can take credit for wins over #6, #22 and #25. Advantage Oklahoma State.

If you want to base your decision on one single game, I suppose it makes sense to give the nod to Alabama. But doesn't it make sense to base it on all 12 games that each team had played, instead of just one?

Another argument you'll hear: Oklahoma State and Stanford don't play defense.

Honestly, I can't argue with that. If you watched last night's game, you would have no choice but to agree. Or, if you watched a plethora of other games featuring these two teams.

To that, I say this: LSU and Alabama don't play offense. Sure, they were able to run up the score a few times against mediocre and/or overrated opponents. But take a look at the quarterbacks we'll see in the title game and tell me how many combined NFL games we'll see them appear in. I'll put the over/under at 0.5, and I'll take the under.

If you watched the first meeting between these two teams, you know that there were QB mistakes left and right, and neither offense looked like they were capable of passing their way out of a paper bag. Credit the defense if you want, and I'll concede that both teams feature outstanding defenses, but those offenses simply aren't that good.

No matter what you say about the defenses at Stanford or Oklahoma State, you can say the same about Alabama and LSU's respective offenses.

Last but not least, we have the rematch factor.

One of the biggest problems with the BCS is that at the end of the day, we really don't know who's better, since there are so many teams out there and so few common opponents. This isn't the NFL, where you play almost half the teams in the league each year. There are 120 teams in the FBS, and each team plays less than 10% of the teams in the division.

Do we KNOW that Alabama is better than Oklahoma State or Stanford. No. We don't KNOW. We think, but we don't know for sure.

What DO we know?

LSU 9, Alabama 6.


So why are we seeing it again? Best case scenario, LSU wins again and they're (still) the undisputed best team in the country. But then, what was the point of the championship game? We will have learned nothing that we didn't already see back on November 5 at the "Game of the Century."

On the other hand, if Alabama wins, then what have we learned? We learned that the sovereignty of the regular season, a long-running staple of the pro-BCS argument, is meaningless. If "every game is a playoff," then why wasn't Alabama eliminated back in November? Why do they deserve a second chance to play LSU when teams like Oklahoma State and Stanford didn't even get ONE chance? 

It's easy to see. The BCS once again screwed the pooch. And in the process, they screwed over a ton of fans. It's time to get rid of this nonsense, form a 4-team playoff system, and have a legitimate champion. Keep the bowls, use the current BCS bowls as the playoff bowls, and they'll still make money hand over fist. And at least it will be a more fair system. It may never be perfect, but at least they'd be making an effort.


In other news...
Did anyone have a better day than Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon? He was already a 2-time Biletnikoff Award winner, so we knew he was good. But then he destroyed the Stanford defense for 8 catches, 186 yards and 3 TD. Post game, he won the Fiesta Bowl MVP and declared himself eligible for the NFL Draft, where he'll undoubtedly be taken in the top half of the 1st round and make some solid cash. To top it all off, somewhere in the middle of all that, he snatched up this cheerleader for a celebratory kiss. Even Charlie Sheen is jealous of the way this kid is winning.

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1/12/12   |   pmichael45   |   2 respect

TigerSooner wrote:
Let me just say that the loss we endured came as a shock and a wakeup call. I now know what bein overconfidant can do to ya. But on the other hand when the opponent keys in on you specifially and doesn't let you have much breathin room you tend to choke and that's not what life's about entirely. As the leader of my team said in his postgame press conference, "we will meet again and know what to expect". Havin heard that I fully believe in Scarlett O'Hara's, "I won't worry about it because after all tomorrow's another day". Congrats to you Bama and your fans but just we'll be backkkkkkkkk.

Damn right LSU will be back. They will be, next year, as they were this year, THE team to beat. That's really how you know you are good, when everyone else is gunning for you.

1/10/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

Let me just say that the loss we endured came as a shock and a wakeup call. I now know what bein overconfidant can do to ya. But on the other hand when the opponent keys in on you specifially and doesn't let you have much breathin room you tend to choke and that's not what life's about entirely. As the leader of my team said in his postgame press conference, "we will meet again and know what to expect". Havin heard that I fully believe in Scarlett O'Hara's, "I won't worry about it because after all tomorrow's another day". Congrats to you Bama and your fans but just we'll be backkkkkkkkk.

1/10/12   |   pmichael45   |   2 respect

Basscat02 wrote:

Great job pmichael. Bama is a great football team.. It is bittersweet for me personally cause all I kept thinking about was the people of Tuscaloosa after the tornadoes..Bama did a great justice to the people of Tuscaloosa, and I hope that the win helps them overcome that tragedy. Enjoy the win buddy, see you next season..unless you follow baseball, which I do..Maybe the BCS bunch can straighten this crap up now that they can see how this panned out.
Geaux Tigers!!

I will always believe that these two teams could play each other ten times and come out of it  five and five. They both are just that good. I agree with you on the changes. I hope something good comes of it. You take care and best of luck to you........................Mike 

1/10/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

pmichael45 wrote:
And that folks, is how you spank an opposing football team. As compared to the the actual game, that statement is being kind.

Great job pmichael. Bama is a great football team.. It is bittersweet for me personally cause all I kept thinking about was the people of Tuscaloosa after the tornadoes..Bama did a great justice to the people of Tuscaloosa, and I hope that the win helps them overcome that tragedy. Enjoy the win buddy, see you next season..unless you follow baseball, which I do..Maybe the BCS bunch can straighten this crap up now that they can see how this panned out.
Geaux Tigers!!

1/10/12   |   pmichael45   |   2 respect

And that folks, is how you spank an opposing football team. As compared to the the actual game, that statement is being kind.

1/5/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

Pat wrote:
 Haha I'm not offended at all, just confused. What kind of Bama fan WOULDN'T want them in the championship game?

Well maybe a Bama fan who likes LSU a little bit Mo!
Geaux Tigers!!

1/5/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

pmichael45 wrote:
I liked your article and also believe we need a playoff system. Perhaps the uproar over a Bama win would force the hand of the BCS. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Says who?? But that would prolly do it my friend.. Ain't gonna happen though!
Geaux Tigers!!

1/5/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

Basscat, even tho he doesn't follow State like he does OU I'd like to think he'd be lurkin in the shadows to surprise l'il ole me,hahaha.

1/5/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

pmichael45 wrote:
I liked your article and also believe we need a playoff system. Perhaps the uproar over a Bama win would force the hand of the BCS. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Still dreamin I see: Bama winnin, that's so damned funny. Bama's got a handful of players at best while LSU's got how many? I repeat: the Honey Badger takes what he wants and don't even care, then you've got Mingo, Big Sam Montgomery, Big Mo Clayborn, Rueben Randall, Kenny Hilliard, Capt Blue, Spenser Ware, did I leave anybody out? Oh yeah the rabbits up in Les Miles' sleeve.

1/5/12   |   pmichael45   |   2 respect

I liked your article and also believe we need a playoff system. Perhaps the uproar over a Bama win would force the hand of the BCS. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

1/5/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

Basscat02 wrote:
Nothing bad intended Pat, it's just a feeling I got when I read the article. Perhaps it was just gas and just needed a little pass... Thanks.

 Haha I'm not offended at all, just confused. What kind of Bama fan WOULDN'T want them in the championship game?

1/4/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

TigerSooner wrote:
For what it's worth I agree with you they shouldn't be there and I was oh so hopin OS would be. One of the biggest reasons bein I was hopin against hope of seein the guy in my profile picture on an off day for him,hehehehe.

Yep, I wouldn't mind if ole Toby was a might upset come Tuesday morning!! Maybe he will write a song about how it felt!!

1/4/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

Pat wrote:
Quite honestly, I don't understand why people say I sound like an Alabama fan, when I'm saying that Alabama shouldn't have been in the National Championship game. But thanks for reading, and I hope you're right about a playoff eventually happening. That's what we need, without a doubt.

For what it's worth I agree with you they shouldn't be there and I was oh so hopin OS would be. One of the biggest reasons bein I was hopin against hope of seein the guy in my profile picture on an off day for him,hehehehe.

1/4/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

Pat wrote:
Quite honestly, I don't understand why people say I sound like an Alabama fan, when I'm saying that Alabama shouldn't have been in the National Championship game. But thanks for reading, and I hope you're right about a playoff eventually happening. That's what we need, without a doubt.

Nothing bad intended Pat, it's just a feeling I got when I read the article. Perhaps it was just gas and just needed a little pass... Thanks.

1/4/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

TigerSooner wrote:
Pat, I hate it but I have to agree with basscat on your comin across as a Bama fan.  There are those of us who feel that we should be playin OS rather than Bama but the BcS sees it differenly. And some of those of us are Bama fans as well. With all said and done it'll all come down to a playoff system eventually and maybe those who  rant and rave will shut up and go with the flow. In the meantime thanks for the article.

Quite honestly, I don't understand why people say I sound like an Alabama fan, when I'm saying that Alabama shouldn't have been in the National Championship game. But thanks for reading, and I hope you're right about a playoff eventually happening. That's what we need, without a doubt.

1/4/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

lucious, I wouldn't hold my breath on waitin for Bama to beat LSU: too many weapons and too many animals to contend with, i.e. a Honey Badger, 2 beasts-the D line and O line-, the special team, hmmmm did I leave anybody out? Oh yeah, the Mad Hatter wth all the rabbits up his sleeve.

1/4/12   |   TigerSooner   |   125 respect

Pat, I hate it but I have to agree with basscat on your comin across as a Bama fan.  There are those of us who feel that we should be playin OS rather than Bama but the BcS sees it differenly. And some of those of us are Bama fans as well. With all said and done it'll all come down to a playoff system eventually and maybe those who  rant and rave will shut up and go with the flow. In the meantime thanks for the article.

1/4/12   |   sfcbenny   |   45 respect

 Where ever the game between LSU and Alabama is being played, the city it's in, and the bigwigs from both schools are making a financial killing. That's what it's all about. ESPN (or whoever is broadcasting it) wants the game they think will have the most people watching no matter what. It's all about money and keeping the status quo.

1/3/12   |   Basscat02   |   193 respect

Thanks Pat for saying just a little bit more than most of the same crap we have been hearing. It almosts sounds like you are an Alabama fan, not that it is bad, it just sounds that way. I personally believe that Okie St. did well to even play on the night they were beaten, after the tragedy their school had suffered. A rescheduling of that game was in order but I seem to be the only one that cares. And as for as Alabama, well, they are the 3rd ranked team in the SEC behind the 2 divisional winners, ie, Georgia and LSU. Why should the 3rd ranked team of any conference be allowed to play in the NC game. And they lost a game at home where they were 4 and 1/2 point favorites, no matter who the team was. And talking about the QB's of LSU and Alabama being bad, I will disagree in that both teams have made most QB's look bad all year long. So that argument is somewhat misguided. Is Alabama the 2nd best team? I have no idea either. But several teams had SOS much harder than Alabama, as did Okie St., which you pointed out. That is the main reason why defensive stats are useless unless the teams you are comparing have played the same exact schedule. Therefore, it is correct to say that Alabama's defense is probably not as good as the stats say, and Boise St.'s offense is not near as good as those stats indicate.And with that in mind, LSU's offense, defense and special teams, and coaches are as good if not better than those stats say. So, to say that you have seen better teams that are a whole lot better than the eventual champion is inaccurate since we have no idea who you are referring to and what the stats indicated about those teams as I have mentioned. We are beginning to hear more and more now that should LSU win on Jan. 9, 2012, they will have to be considered as one , if not the best team of all time. And in the same respect, Alabama was not the 2nd best team this year, with 2 losses and some very good teams with one loss after their relegated Bowl Game by the same voters. I guess what I am trying to say is, yes, you are right, we need a playoff system of some kind, and yes, the BCS sucks!! The only thing we know at this point in time is that LSU has earned it's #1 ranking and may still deserve it should Alabama win next week!
Thanks again for a good article.

1/3/12   |   luciousj_s   |   2463 respect

 The way I sees it with all these Bowls they have they should be awarded to the top 25 teams First.
I always did believe the Rose Bowl should be #1 & #2 not because your in the big ten.
Sugar Bowl #3 & #4 Orange Bowl #5 & #6 Cotton Bowl #7 & #8 then etc on down the line.
#1 and #2 should be Nation Champship  Not 10-1 but 11-0 that's my take on this.

1/3/12   |   luciousj_s   |   2463 respect

 Yeah! Yeah! I hear ya my friend But I don't think LSU gonna win this next bout.
Alabama should have kick that butt in regulation time in the first place.

1/3/12   |   sfcbenny   |   45 respect

 The purveyors of the BCS want college football to be just like the NFL with only about 32 teams really having any real shot at their bogus national title. The co-conspiritors, the SEC, The Pac 10, the Big 10, the Big 12 and the ACC put the system in to benefit themselves only. The Big East? They got conned into joining just to make the whole thing look  better but no Big East team has any more of a real title shot than say a WAC team and really only about half of the schools in the other BCS conferences have a real shot either. Everybody else is along for the ride, hoping a school from their conference will win the big one so they all get a nice payday. All the while they shut out schools and athletes that train and play just as hard and care just as much about winning because the BCS'ers are greedy as hell and because they have the power to do it. The whole system stinks like hell.