This is going to get really ugly.

If my favorite team and childhood idol weren't involved it would probably be pretty entertaining.

"Despite the wave of speculation, Vikings head coach Brad Childress insists that Tarvaris Jackson is his guy."

 

Childress would shiv Jackson if it meant he could get Favre, or any top flight QB.

I agree... because... well... it is.

It is past ugly into the relm of the absurd...

See, I would say that absurd comes first, then ugly... we should probably figure out how this works that way we know what word to use when Brett asks the comish for re-instatement because thats when the poop will hit the fan.

Oh, this thing has reached FUBAR stage. Pat knows what I'm talking about.

Green Bay should just do nothing and let Farve just sit out. Pretend like he doesn't exist and let Farve just whine and complain about it.

Problem is that Brett actually holds a lot of power.  If he asks for reinstatement the Packers have 24 hours to put him on the roster or release him.  Unfortunately, I think that move is inevitably coming soon.

Great.  More coverage of this drama.  It's getting to the point where I'm going to miss all the "OH TOM BRADY HE'S SO DREAMY" crap that infests the New England sports media.  It's only mid-July and I have a feeling for the next several months it's going to be All Favre All the Time.

Tomorrow: Brett Favre's secret affair with Madonna!

Now, does this really surprise anyone? Its always been about Favre. Now if this is true, which I believe it is, it just proves that point. Now if I was GB I would say go ahead and request reinstatement and then tell him to get that clipboard ready. Do you think with his ego he would want to do that? Then right before the trade deadline ship him to a crappy team.

And on Friday: Brett Favre's secret affair with A-Rod!

And for your Sunday morning reading - A-Rod gives the clap to Farve, but who did A-Rod get it from?  Madonna or Jeter?

(Edited 07/16/08 11:36PM by ChicaQueso)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The only reason this saga is continuing is because people keep writing uninformed speculation..... like this.
Favre talking to someone he's been friends with for years -- is a non-issue.  The Vikings already publicly stated they aren't interested in him (if you read a little website called ESPN.COM) .... who cares that he talked to him?  He obviously doesn't have any friends in the staff at the Packers anymore -- they are too busy trying to screw him out of playing football. 

And for someone who is trashing the Fox interview.. you certainly didn't watch it... because you said "It makes Favre start to look like a mercenary, rather than a classy guy who should have come out and said "You know what guys, I made a mistake. It's not your fault I retired. Will you take me back?""
Which is the most BS thing I've heard considering he repeatedly said that VERBATIM in the interview.
Michael Jordan retired three times and Chicago didn't turn their back on him.... especially for a player of Aaron Rodgers caliber.... Moved on or not -- Brett repeatedly has stated he made a mistake retiring too early... and that he understands if they want to move on -- but the PACKERS should do the classy thing and release him.
Why won't they?  Because they know he can play and if he goes anywhere in their division they'll get smoked.  Period.
Oh, and lastly
"I mean, at this point, I'm starting to wonder why anyone likes this guy." --
MAYBE because he is one of the greatest football players of all time -- who held his loyalty to one team over 90% of his career and wasn't full of himself.  MAYBE because instead of on field antics, he threw some of the most amazing passes ever seen.  MAYBE it's the strength he showed through his life which he lived very publicly with the Packers and their fans.  MAYBE because he shot straight and played from the heart every single time he was on the field.  OR MAYBE because he holds 6 NFL records above Marino, Elway and oh yeah everyone else.  He deserves a fair shake from the Packers -- the end.  The only reason they won't give it to him -- is because if they lose Rodgers, they will be rebuilding for 4-5 years after Brett DOES officially retire.  If they were "committed" to Aaron Rodgers then they wouldn't have drafted two QB's.  They are committed to keeping Brett in retirement... which is messed up no matter who you are.  But Ted Thompson's a complete idiot -- so none of this should be a surprise.

If you're still wondering "why anyone likes this guy" maybe next time you'll spend more time watching footage and catching up on the game of football you've obviously missed the past 15 years instead of writing a misinformed post like this.

Sorry, these new thumbs up buttons are so flippin' small... I didn't mean to give you a PQ, I meant to give you a bold thumbs up. Sorry

No kidding... I don't like them...

It is ok. You owe me a bold thumbs up now...

I must be missing something - Favre's still good enough to garner some nice trade-bait.  Green Bay should simply reinstate him (or activate him - whatever), and trade him to somewhere like Buffalo/Kansas City/Baltimore even - some team that they won't play this year.  A Buffalo trade might gain GB a Hawk/Posluszny LB corps!

ChicaQueso wrote: Who gave Peter King a FanIQ account?

By the way "who cares if Favre talked to Bevell?" Well, the Packers sure do, because that's called tampering and you can't do that.

And as for the Vikings, of course when a team publicly states they aren't interested in a guy they're ALWAYS telling the truth. No one EVER lies in pro football. How silly of me not to trust the Vikings PR team.

Thanks for stating the obvious.  The only reason the Packers did that is because they are scared out of their mind.  Brett, would not have gone behind their back to talk to anyone.

And as for the Vikings, it wasn't a public statement released by a PR team -- maybe you should keep up with the news on this.

You mean it's not already?  I just wish that the whole situation would go away, but since that's not possible, I can't wait for it to get over with!!

Unfortunately, the "talking heads" at ESPN would rather just spout this stuff off, (rather than do ANY journalistic work!!)

I'm afraid it'll PQ you again, so you'll get a regular old thumbs up. But the intent of that thumbs up is "you are awesome." :)

The Pack is scared? Scared of what? They own his rights. Plain and simple. No matter what if Bevel is a friend of his holiness he knows the rules. Talking to him about playing no matter what is, . . . .ummmm..... Tampering. Get over you love of Favre and realize the Pack went to him in late march and had agreed for him to come back and play another season. HE declined so the Pack said fine and moved forward in the draft and with Rodgers. So its Favre who is fully to blame. If he did not wanna retire or wanted more time to think he should have said listen lemme think about it some more. But he did not. Then again all the Favre lovers wont listen to logic or that his guy has been doing the same thing for the past 3 seasons

"Brett, would not have gone behind their back to talk to anyone." Maybe rather than admonishing others for "keep up with the news on this" you need to get your head out of the sand.  Farve is a professional ball player who has his future and his checkbook first and foremost on his mind.  He seems to be a decient guy but he would still sell his grandmother and her meat loaf recipe to play on the team he wants to and have things his way.  I don't remember which talking head said it but he said, paraphrasing him ofcourse, that Farve wants to be quarterback, GM, President and cheerleader - his way or no way.  Must I still remind people the anoited one SIGNED A CONTRACT and that is the bottom line - he belongs to the Packers for them to do what they want to with him.

I do not think the Packers are to blame for moving on after Brett announced he was retiring, but I do think it is totally within Brett's right as a person and a player to change his mind.  The problem is the Packers are not just going to roll over and send Brett off with a nice handshake, and Brett is unwilling to be relocated to a back-up roll while the Packers try to find an amicable trade for all parties.

He did sign a contract, and in that contract Favre has to approve of any trade that the Packers arrange. So, if he does not want to go to a "crappy team" then he does not have to.  The Packers will have to give him a trade he approves of or they will have to honor their contract and pay him 12 million to sit on the bench with a clipboard if he asks to be reinstated.  However,  Favre has stated he will not ask for a reinstatement yet because he does not want to have to report back to the Packers as a backup, and potentially fined 15,000 a day for not reporting to training camp.

Brett wants to play, and as much as the Packers dont want to see him go somewhere else, they also cannot afford the 12 million.  Filing tampering charges with the Vikings or any other team that talks to Brett is just a way of Packer's management trying to limit Favre's options while they stall until he becomes a liability to any team that does want him.

I cannot wait to see how this turns out,  however, knowing Brett can be a little fickle with his decisions, maybe the Packers are just hoping he will get frustrated and retire again.

 

 

 

It seems like every week Fan IQ has a negative article about Brett Favre. The amount of Bias remarks and the cheap shots taken on Brett are getting ridiculous.

Explain all the bias towards Favre. Oh its all of us that kept changing his mind about retiring. It was Fan IQ that offered him a chance to comeback in March and HE declined. Yes, all these deserved cheap shots are ridiculous

Cheap shots are only taken by those with nothing important to say....

I'm tired of reading the same crap over and over and over again... so I'll quit typing it.

Brett bashing has always been a favorite thing to do of MANY fans... but... he's still better than most of their qb's. ;)

Lol... yeah he needs the cash.  If he needed the cash I think he'd sit on the bench and pick up the 38mil No?  *sigh* I guess you know more about his checkbook and grandma's meat loaf than the rest of though.

He's earned the right to be a QB his way or no way.

And I assume you meant "annointed" one?  Yes, for the 20th time he's in a contract -- if he wasn't we'd have nothing to talk about would we?  The release option is there for a reason..... hmm.

Not mine

I knew you'd pipe up ;)  Heh heh heh ... I guess it's ALL a matter of opinion?  xoxo

How has he earned the right to do what he wants, and the Packers organization HASN'T earned that same right? Yeah, the release option is there for a reason... but so is the contract that he signed. The Packers don't want him going to another team within the division, so there's no way they'd flat out release him.

Instead of pretending that Favre is untouchable and can do no wrong, try to think about it from a realistic, sensible, and practical angle, from the Packers' point of view. This is a QB who takes way too many risks, throws too many INT's, and it's a team that is still a few years away (realistically) from the Super Bowl, no matter how bad you want to believe last year wasn't a fluke. By keeping Brett around, they're hindering the development of Rogers and Brohm, and one of those guys will be the one leading the Packers to their next ring, NOT Favre.

This is the crazy thing about you Packers fans... you're not Packers fans. You're Brett Favre fans. It's the most ridiculous sports phenomenon I've ever seen in my life.

I'm both you jackhole! :)  I can be a Packers fan and still disagree with them...

He's earned the right to be a QB his way or no way." - Sorry, in a team sport NO ONE earns that right - no single man is above the team - a part of the team but never above the team.  And yes, I did mean annointed - my sincere apologies for my misspelling - I hope you can forgive me.

 

And you say it yourself, "the release "OPTION" is there for a reason" - and they can opt for him to sit his ass on the bench for a season if they desire. Good choice or bad choice, it is the TEAM'S choice, not Brett's - whether he likes it or not.

I think my main issue with this whole thing is he's been jerking the Packers around for the last 4 years with this nonsense, and then he finally does retire and now he's back doing this again. 

Brett Favre hasn't been to a Super Bowl in ten years.  It's pretty amazing to comprehend that much time has gone by.  The Packers could not afford to wait for Favre to change his mind on Draft Day and moved forward.  Now  he wants to come back, and selfishly and arrogantly requests his outright release two years after chastising Javon Walker for not owning up to his own contract.

If he wants to keep playing,  he has that right, but to think the Packers are obligated to give him an outright release to a potential division rival because "He's Brett Favre" is just ridiculous.

Send him to Miami for Jason Taylor and make some draft picks or cash change hands and let's get on with the season. 

Yes, exactly -- so stop acting like it's some crime that he request it and expect them to act with some dignity.  You're on here shouting contract 20 times like we're all moronic.... if he wasn't in a contract none of this would be being talked about.  It is the TEAM'S choice... no one argued that -- the argument was if they were being respectful of HIM.  He who committed all of those years to their team.  I don't care if they bench him for 2 years -- I'd love to see it.  I'd love to see Brett get paid for doing nothing after this fiasco -- I'd love to see them go to him when Rodgers fails.... but since for Brett, this is about playing, I doubt it will happen.

I forgot to respond to you since we were talking on IM. 

First, by "he's earned the right to be a QB his way or no way" means if he wants to be a starter somewhere -- he's earned it.  If he chooses not to play this year because of that -- GOOD FOR HIM.  He's a veteran and does not need to be disrespected by sitting on the bench.  I wasn't speaking about the organization and their rights in that comment.

I didn't say they didn't have the right... they have the right to do whatever they want.  After the relationship he has had with that team for this many years -- if the man wants to play and you don't want him -- then trade to a team you are NOT afraid will beat you -- though this year -- GOD ONLY KNOWS who that will be -- as it will be another PAINFUL year as a Packer fan.

I've never thought he was untouchable and did no wrong -- I don't know why it's sooo difficult for those posting to understand that.  He completely screwed up by retiring early.  COMPLETELY. 

Last year was not a 'fluke' it was earned.  And Rodgers will not be leading the Packers into anything but another QB (or himself into another cast).

We Packer fans are PACKERS fans.  I have a Packers tattoo -- not a Brett tattoo.  The thing about us Packers fans is that we expect more from our organization -- since it's owned by our fans and not some money hungry, greedy, fat cat executive like everyone else's.   We love Brett because he's played on our team FOR EV ER.  It's not a sports phenomenon.  But we're allowed to be disappointed with the decisions made by management as much as any of you about your teams.  It's really that simple.

Which is all I'm saying.

(Edited 07/18/08 11:32PM by EdSpeshel)
ChicaQueso wrote:

Last time I checked respect was earned not given as a function of time and it worked both ways - how much respect did Farve show when he "retired" with time left on his contract, then changes his mind and comes back.  I guess the Packers have shown Farve no respect over the years he played for them and stunk up the field - they showed no commitment to him when they should have benched his ass - yea, the Packer organization has really treated him like sh**.

 

As for the fact "I have a Packers tattoo" - I don't know why this doesn't surprise me.  What is it with you and Farve - is the the first ball player you have liked because you sound like me when I was 7 and was defending Sonny Jurgenson.

Respect is earned.. and he's earned from many NFL fans -- I'm sure he's not upset  you aren't one of them...  

The Packers organization has treated him like crap -- in recent months... as stated. 

As for the "I have a Packers tattoo" did you actually read what I wrote?  Because immediately following I said it's not a "Brett" tattoo.  He's definitely not the first or only ballplayer I've liked -- but, was football around when you were 7? :)

Honestly, I don't care what I sound like to you -- you have long passed 'reason'.  I'm shocked you didn't mention his contract again in this post -- since you have in every other... oh wait.... you did mention his contract again.

I don't think you've retained a word I've written...if you dislike him so much (as you obviously do) -- maybe find a Washington post to write in?  Just a thought. ;)

"was football around when you were 7?"

 

Oh wow - that hurt...  how did you EVER think that one up - get help from your friends?

 

The only "reason" you understand is to love and accept and agree with Farve unconditionally.  To show how LITTLE you do know, I don't hate Farve at all - in fact I like him alot - he was a hell of a quarterback - he just happens to be acting like an a**hole right now.  It is possible to like the man and dislike what he is doing - even you can understand that can't you?

Jesus -- get a grip -- it was a joke.

I know you've been gone for a while, but FanIQ made some changes while you were gone... the main thing was a strict "No Joking" policy. Apparently you didn't get the memo.

Like all you posts have been - right?

Awww your pent-up bitterness is endearing... but I'm sure you get that all the time.

Apparently -- dang -- I guess I should check the moderators forum and look for it :)

Haha thanks for letting me know! xoxo

"yawn"... excuse me - did you say something?