Penguins Win Improbable Comeback [NHL Wrap Around 4/26]

1	The Penguins are Lucky and Good.

4/26/08

Scott Senay

1	derms33 wrote: The Penguins are Lucky and Good. Pick one or the other and it better not be lucky.

4/26/08

1	(Edited by derms33) Scott Senay wrote: Pick one or the other and it better not be lucky. I like the Penguins but they got Lucky when Jagr hit the post...in New York that probably finds the back o the net! I choose GOOD!

4/26/08

Nick S

1	(Edited by Nick S) derms33 wrote: The Penguins are Lucky and Good. How is Jagr hitting the post lucky???

4/26/08

Scott Senay

3	derms33 wrote: I like the Penguins but they got Lucky when Jagr hit the post...in New York that probably finds the back o the net! I choose GOOD! What, are the posts smaller in New York?

4/26/08

1	Lol..I think you are missing the concept of luck...Their defense sucked all nite and so did the Rangers'. The Arena in Pittsburgh was definitely rockin!

4/26/08

1	Scott Senay wrote: What, are the posts smaller in New York? obviously not thats kinda dumb

4/26/08

Scott Senay

0	derms33 wrote: Lol..I think you are missing the concept of luck...Their defense sucked all nite and so did the Rangers'. The Arena in Pittsburgh was definitely rockin! I think the concept of "luck" is kinda dumb. He missed, plain and simple and I'm one of the few Pens fans that still have love for Jager.

4/26/08

0	Don't think that the pumping of the arm Avery did in front of the Penguins bench had anything to do with their comeback?

4/26/08

1	Scott Senay wrote: I think the concept of "luck" is kinda dumb. He missed, plain and simple and I'm one of the few Pens fans that still have love for Jager. my comment was dumb not yours...there is Luck involved in Sports..that is not a new idea btw

4/26/08

nyrangers

0	awful call on straka late in the game (3 mins left). it was incidental contact and sidney was just as responsible for running into straka as straka was for running into him. IMO, crosby embelished. still, no excuse for blowing an early 3 goal lead, but still

4/27/08

0	Nothing like the "Sidney Crosby rule" to help you win a game. I starting to think that the Pens aren't as good as everyone thinks they are. They are just being carted by Gary Bettman and his referees to the Cup Finals.

4/27/08

0	Scott Senay wrote: Pick one or the other and it better not be lucky. Its neither. Its Gary Bettman and his love affair with Sidney Crosby.

4/27/08

0	Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are many "stars" who whine in the NHL===Crosby is no different. Forsberg, Getzlaf, Selanne----actually the whole Ducks team, Kariya, Jagr, and many many others are known for their theatrics and whining. There are plenty of players and teams (Red Wings ---just ask the Predators), who get preferential treatment by the officials.

4/27/08

0	I totally get you! I usually don't like all the whining and acting, but I have to admit that when it is your team getting the calls--it is not as bothersome. I'm sure that if NY's Jagr got those calls, (and he did for many years), there would not be this discussion. Every team's fans tend to think they get the crap end of the stick on some calls.

4/28/08

kteacher wrote:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are many "stars" who whine in the NHL===Crosby is no different. Forsberg, Getzlaf, Selanne----actually the whole Ducks team, Kariya, Jagr, and many many others are known for their theatrics and whining. There are plenty of players and teams (Red Wings ---just ask the Predators), who get preferential treatment by the officials.

No one has ever gotten special treatment like this. Every star in every league has more focus on them, and the refs are more likely to call penalties and the like that actually happen. Thats just a part of the game, not much you can do about that. With this situation, they are MAKING UP PENALTIES against Crosby, like he is God or something. And they aren't stopping with just him, the whole team is getting the benefit. Almost like the NHL is rigging the postseason.

4/28/08

Gazzo wrote:

You have to remember, you have Avery on your team===that should say it all. When he was on the Kings, we (me and those I sat by) would guess how many non calls Avery would get against him vs. how many minutes he served. I remember thinking that Avery would need to get seriously hurt before getting a call in his favor. Does that suck=YES!

I really don't see officials doing anything different with Sydney that they do with other star players. HOWEVER, maybe if my team was on the crap end of the stick, I would probably see things differently.

I did think it was funny seeing Jagr bitching to Sydney for doing something HE did in his earlier playing days.

4/29/08

(Edited by Gazzo)
kteacher wrote:

I did think it was funny seeing Jagr bitching to Sydney for doing something HE did in his earlier playing days.

Have you watched Game 1 and 2? Cause if you haven't seen any special calls in Crosby's favor then you obviously haven't been watching.

As far as Avery goes, pretty much everything he does is clean or just a part of hockey. I haven't seen any outlandish things from him that don't get called. In fact as far as these playoffs go its just the opposite. He is getting his ass kicked every game and the refs call nothing. Regardless of any of this, you are talking about penalites that DO HAPPEN and don't get called. I'm talking about penalties that DON'T HAPPEN and DO get called.

4/29/08

Gazzo wrote:

I think you kind of missed my point or I didn't make my point clear.

I have watched both games (actually all 3--sorry about the third game, I was kind of pulling for your team),and I wasn't saying Crosby wasn't getting calls in his favor or that they were justified calls. I was just saying that this has gone on in the NHL for a long time---of course the last time the Kings got calls like this, Gretzky was on the team. Calls like this aren't really new.

In regards to Avery, I totally agree with you in the fact that he does get his ass kicked and nothing is called. What can I say? He has a reputation. I saw it when he was with the Kings and it bothered me then. All I can say to you is that if you have him on your team, (I loved having him on the Kings), you have to expect the non calls, phantam calls, and "I think" more calls against the rest of the players on your team.

Who knows, if a bunch of East Coast fans complain enough maybe the league will discuss this favoritism in the off season----------------------I doubt it though!

4/29/08

kteacher wrote:

I think you kind of missed my point or I didn't make my point clear.

I've never seen calls made up like this before. Not to mention that that isn't the only thing going on in this series. How about the Rangers goal that wasn't in Game 2 at the end of the third period?

4/30/08

Gazzo wrote:

I've never seen calls made up like this before. Not to mention that that isn't the only thing going on in this series. How about the Rangers goal that wasn't in Game 2 at the end of the third period?

You are young, give it time. I have seen plenty of calls like this. Come out west and you see it all the time.

Yes I did see the waved off goal. In fact the Rangers coach was OK with it. It sucks, but when a ref loses sight of the puck, the whistle is blown---------that call has screwed all teams. You know I am going to give you a break. You are a passionate die hard fan (it seems), and you feel your team has been screwed. If it makes you feel any better my team has not been in the play offs for years, and were out of it again way back in December, oh, and my team still hasn't got a shot (according to the experts and those on this site) of getting to the play offs next year.

4/30/08