Phillies fan tasered after running onto the field

Reason #1245643 not to run onto the field during a baseball game

5/4/10 in MLB   |   Scott   |   52080 respect

We've all heard the stories about how passionate and over the top Phillies fans can be sometimes.... booing Santa Claus, throwing batteries at players, shining laser pointers in the eyes of opposing teams, etc...  so it shouldnt come as a surprise when a fan runs out on the field during a game.  However, what happened after has caused a little bit of backlash from both the Phillies organization and the local police.  Apparently, an officer used a Taser gun to subdue a 17 year old who ran out on the field during the St. Louis Cardinals/Philadelphia Phillies game.  I was watching this game and saw shots of numerous Cardinal and Phillies players laughing at the scene, yet now comes word that both the Phillies and the police will be looking at whether excessive force was used during the chase.

See for yourself the video from last night's pursuit




Personally, I think Philly's finest were a little bit over the top with how they handled this.  I get that you can never be too sure what a fan might do but as far as I can see, none of the Phillies were ever in any type of danger during this.  Common sense tells you that eventually one of the ushers or officers would've been able to subdue the kid the way we normally see, with a decleating tackle that would make Dick Butkus proud
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6/25/10   |   w_g_walters   |   222 respect

I knew someone who was injured by a taser, and I can't approve. He looked like he was half-surrounded, and he seemed half-drunk, too, so he should have been easy to catch.

6/25/10   |   doublww   |   5 respect

i think you could of stopped him without tazering him. Those things hurt!

5/6/10   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

jxnsteelersfan wrote:
Clearly, thinking about doing something and acting on it are not the same.  It was careless on his part to disrupt the game that way. I'm sure you agree that freak accidents can happen and officers running after him risked injury.  The only other course of action was to run after him until eventually one of them (considering they seemed overweight) caught him.  How much time should have been allowed for him to disrupt the game before using an alternate plan?

As for law enforcement, they have more things to consider than we may know. They may have been thinking that his actions were a distraction for something else to take place.  Therefore, they needed to apprehend him as quickly as possible.  It's unfortunate the 17 year old got tasered. I pray there are no negative effects. He did a grown up act and has to deal w/grown up consequences.  Hopefully, he will think before he acts next time.

Well then why not just shoot him if that's the case?

Cops have to judge when to use force and in this case the cop judged that using his gun wasn't warranted but using his tazer was. I'm saying that the same powers that will judge a cop later if using their gun was warranted also can judge if using the tazer was warranted. And I won't be shocked if they say that using the tazer, in this case, wasn't warranted.

5/6/10   |   jxnsteelersfan   |   75 respect

Clearly, thinking about doing something and acting on it are not the same.  It was careless on his part to disrupt the game that way. I'm sure you agree that freak accidents can happen and officers running after him risked injury.  The only other course of action was to run after him until eventually one of them (considering they seemed overweight) caught him.  How much time should have been allowed for him to disrupt the game before using an alternate plan?

As for law enforcement, they have more things to consider than we may know. They may have been thinking that his actions were a distraction for something else to take place.  Therefore, they needed to apprehend him as quickly as possible.  It's unfortunate the 17 year old got tasered. I pray there are no negative effects. He did a grown up act and has to deal w/grown up consequences.  Hopefully, he will think before he acts next time.

5/6/10   |   jxnsteelersfan   |   75 respect

mrtriplesix wrote:
im sure theres been a time in everyones life they wanted to do something daring. as im sure u have unless u live a boring life.

Clearly, thinking about doing something and acting on it are not the same.  It was careless on his part to disrupt the game that way. I'm sure you agree that freak accidents can happen and players running after him risked injury. 

As for law enforcement, they have more things to consider than we may know. They may have been thinking that his actions were a distraction for something else to take place.  Therefore, they needed to apprehend him as quickly as possible.  It's unfortunate the 17 year old got tasered. I pray there are no negative effects. He did a grown up act and has to deal w/grown up consequences.  Hopefully, he will think before he acts next time.

5/6/10   |   nortonsfury   |   130 respect

I don't agree with the use of the taser but I do think it was pretty friggin funny.  Nothing more priceless then a video of someone being tased.  He isn't allowed on the field...an announcement they make before ever MLB game. 

5/6/10   |   Debi_L   |   11790 respect

BluDevil wrote:
What happened to the good 'ol days where the player would just kick you in the face when you ran on the field.

Some 300+ people have died from being tazed in the last decade. It's not as "non lethal" as you might think. I do think that a cop should have a tazer and should be able to determine when it is time to use it. However, that officer has to suffer the consequences if it is determined later that it wasn't "acceptable use of force".

I mean, had the cop pulled out his gun and shot the kid then we'd all agree that was excessive force. Was using the tazer excessive? I think it was, based on what I saw.

I agree with that!!! Too many people have died from the use of the Taser and more will probably die before the full effects of it's use are known.  If this kid had some kind of undiagnised heart issue (AKA John Ritter???) the results could have been much more devastating that entertaining.  The kid was playing a prank, doing something foolish, yes, but he wasn't robbing a store, holding up a bank or killing anyone.  I repeat, in my opinion this was excessive force. 

Of course the Philly police are defending the actions of the officer, calling it warranted.

5/5/10   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

What happened to the good 'ol days where the player would just kick you in the face when you ran on the field.

Some 300+ people have died from being tazed in the last decade. It's not as "non lethal" as you might think. I do think that a cop should have a tazer and should be able to determine when it is time to use it. However, that officer has to suffer the consequences if it is determined later that it wasn't "acceptable use of force".

I mean, had the cop pulled out his gun and shot the kid then we'd all agree that was excessive force. Was using the tazer excessive? I think it was, based on what I saw.

5/5/10   |   Lizzo   |   324 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:

It's worth mentioning that this bozo would not have gotten tased had he stayed his seat like all of the normal fans

I know that tasing was probably over the top, but with the history Phillie has, and the fact that most of the guys on the field trying to catch the kid were about 40 pounds over weight, I can't really blame the guy for firing on him. Besides, the face plant on the field was pretty damn funny! But, as bussmak noted, it didn't deter the guy last night. Maybe he was hoping to get zapped, too. For what reason, I can only begin to imagine!

5/5/10   |   mrtriplesix   |   1160 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:

It's worth mentioning that this bozo would not have gotten tased had he stayed his seat like all of the normal fans

im sure theres been a time in everyones life they wanted to do something daring. as im sure u have unless u live a boring life.

5/5/10   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

It's worth mentioning that this bozo would not have gotten tased had he stayed his seat like all of the normal fans

5/5/10   |   Thinkaboutit   |   46 respect

mrtriplesix wrote:
he wasnt putting anyone in harm, he was just trying to get some exposure or whatever. i think a simple tackle would of been ok. he was a threat to NOBODY

he wasnt putting anyone in harm, he was just trying to get some 1500 VOLTS of exposure or whatever. i think a simple  tackle would of been ok. he was a threat to NOBODY  

*Fixed*

5/5/10   |   buzzmak

i guess the taset didn't deter the guy last night...

5/5/10   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

Barrett Robins does not approve.

5/5/10   |   mrtriplesix   |   1160 respect

he wasnt putting anyone in harm, he was just trying to get some exposure or whatever. i think a simple tackle would of been ok. he was a threat to NOBODY

5/5/10   |   Thinkaboutit   |   46 respect

Why should the officer risk getting hurt, tackling this jerk, when you can taser his sorry azz? He deserved what he got. Next time he will think about the true negative consequences for his actions before acting like a jerk again.

5/5/10   |   Thinkaboutit   |   46 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Wow, I guess I really disagree - I am very rarely in favor of a taser.  And on a kid, well, he'd have to be on the verge of committing murder for it to be okay in my book, sorry.  That was just wrong IMO

...bet he won't do it again.

5/4/10   |   ML31   |   3672 respect

What a dip s**t. 

Sorry, but he earned it.

5/4/10   |   Debi_L   |   11790 respect

Wow, I guess I really disagree - I am very rarely in favor of a taser.  And on a kid, well, he'd have to be on the verge of committing murder for it to be okay in my book, sorry.  That was just wrong IMO

5/4/10   |   Alpha_Dawg   |   1258 respect

while I like a good tackle/body slam,  a taser to the nuts would of been more suited for all idiots that like to run on the field.