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9/12/07
Picking APart the Pollsters Week 3: Jon Wilner Hearts Steve Spurrier
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Our weekly look at the individual AP Ballots is back again for this season. Who was the biggest homer? Who doesn't make any sense? Who actually (gasp!) deserves some credit?

This week's beef: Penalizing one team for poor performance against a lower team but not another, ranking Appalachian State, and mass overreaction to the Ol' Ball Coach's win in Athens.

South Carolina 4th? It took very little time to find the worst ballot this week. I usually go directly to the four California voters as I'm bound to find something special. Check out this ballot from Jon Wilner (San Jose). That was a big road win for the Gamecocks between the hedges. True. What I did not see was the 4TH BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. Alabama 9th! Uh huh. South Florida 10th? Wow, I guess Auburn was one of the best in the country. Wilner also dropped Louisville down to 18th for a close win against Mid Tennessee St, but kept Wisconsin in the top 5 for a close win against UNLV. Typical voter behavior.

J.P. Giglio (NC) also might have a bit of man crush on the OBC with a 7th place voting.

Who looked better -- Oregon or Appalachian State? According to Dave Goren (NC) he was more impressed by the 34-32 victory than the 39-7 ass kicking. Dave has Appalachian State ranked 13th in the country. Oregon 23rd. I'm sure the locals appreciate your support for the Boone, NC school, but at least acknowledge what Oregon accomplished if you think so highly of Michigan. 
 
B.G. Brooks (CO) was not impressed with Oklahoma. He has them at 8th, right behind Wisconsin and Louisville. I've thought long and hard and can't figure out any logical reasoning for this other than having something against the Sooners.

Geaux Tigers!
Unsurprising, and I completely agree, but it's worth noting both of the Louisiana voters had LSU #1.

David Birkett (MI) clearly still wants to give a lot of respect to Michigan. He has Oregon 8th! Might as well have just kept the Wolverines in there at 25, Dave.

Joseph Hawk (NV) did a good job of making sure his local team was still playing a ranked Hawaii team. The 15th team in the nation barely beats Louisiana Tech in overtime.

Thank you Joe Person (SC) for taking the Gamecocks win in stride.

There are plenty more ballots ripe for the picking. It's still early, so we're looking forward to this weekend's game to give us a better picture. Feel free to pick apart the voters in the comments.
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9/12/07
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Saurdays promo for Michigan vs Notre Dame


9/12/07
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As I've mentioned a few times before way to many times to count, voters need to have fluidity in their polls, be willing to admit early rankings were wrong, recognize that some teams improve as the season goes on while some get worse, and not just move teams up or down because of wins and losses and that's it.

 

Good example.

USC may end up being the national champs but so far they were unimpressive against Idaho while LSU whipped a very good Virginia Tech team. Why can't they seem to jump from #2 to #1? Because too many voters won't drop USC until they lose.

So go ahead, if you had South Carolina and South Florida unranked and want to rank them more accordingly (not just #24 and #25) then do it, just don't go all Jon Wilner crazy (#4 and #10, wow).


9/12/07
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I agree with that. Why can't voters get it in their minds that they can move teams up and down based on the impressiveness or unimpressiveness of their wins or losses? I think the coaches poll is much worse at not doing that then the AP poll. B.G Brooks also does hate the Sooners. He is still upset from some of the beatdown the put on the Buffs in the Big 12 Title game in 2004.

9/12/07
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Just goes to show you that pollsters are homers too.

9/12/07
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Appy State the 13th best team in the nation??? That guy should have his ballot rights revoked. Appy St. is a good team and all, but I still believe that any other team in the Top 25 would give them a 20 point beatdown.

9/12/07
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Saurdays promo for Michigan vs Notre Dame


9/12/07
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Can we please stop talking about Michigan vs. Notre Dame? I mean when was the last time a game between two unranked 0-2 teams gotten so much pub. I think we should put a stop on talks about it and start talking about USC/Nebraska, Florida/Tennessee, Ga Tech/Boston College, Alabama/Arkansas, Washington/Ohio St, & Kentucky/Louisville. There are so many better games we can talk about.

9/12/07
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John Moredich  Tucson (AZ) Citizen has Georgia ranked 25th but South Carolina not ranked and also NO USF

9/12/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
Can we please stop talking about Michigan vs. Notre Dame? I mean when was the last time a game between two unranked 0-2 teams gotten so much pub. I think we should put a stop on talks about it and start talking about USC/Nebraska, Florida/Tennessee, Ga Tech/Boston College, Alabama/Arkansas, Washington/Ohio St, & Kentucky/Louisville. There are so many better games we can talk about.
When the two winningest programs in history start out 0-2 and face each other it's a story.

9/12/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
When the two winningest programs in history start out 0-2 and face each other it's a story.
I know but it seems like that is all anyone can talk about. I can understand talking about it all day Monday but then to go all day Tuesday with it. It is a game between two teams that are just not that good.

9/12/07
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Not only did Jon Wilner rank South Carolina 4th, the Gators are ranked 15th? Behind Georgia?

9/12/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
Can we please stop talking about Michigan vs. Notre Dame? I mean when was the last time a game between two unranked 0-2 teams gotten so much pub. I think we should put a stop on talks about it and start talking about USC/Nebraska, Florida/Tennessee, Ga Tech/Boston College, Alabama/Arkansas, Washington/Ohio St, & Kentucky/Louisville. There are so many better games we can talk about.

You know what I find kind of funny?  Michigan and Notre Dame having bad seasons is the only thing keeping the media from hyping up the Miami/Florida International re-match.  If everything else was going as "planned" in the football world right now, we would be hearing and reading about that game every time we turned around.

 

I'm really surprised CF hasn't done a tribute to that game by now.  Not that I am asking for it.


9/12/07
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tpowell25 wrote:

You know what I find kind of funny?  Michigan and Notre Dame having bad seasons is the only thing keeping the media from hyping up the Miami/Florida International re-match.  If everything else was going as "planned" in the football world right now, we would be hearing and reading about that game every time we turned around.

 

I'm really surprised CF hasn't done a tribute to that game by now.  Not that I am asking for it.

Actually, I'm planning on a tribute to BOTH games. I mean really, does it get any better than this. ;)

 
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