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Picking APart the Pollsters: Who Voted for Michigan?

9/5/07 in NCAAF   |   CriticalFanatic   |   respect

Our weekly look at the individual AP Ballots is back again for this season. Who was the biggest homer? Who doesn't make any sense? Who actually (gasp!) deserves some credit?

Normally this comes out much earlier in the week, but for whatever reason the powers that be at the Associated Press failed to update their site until late this afternoon.

As you already know, the University of Michigan dropped out of both the AP and Coaches Poll. The accumulation of ballots resulted in collective thumbs up to the entire group of voters; however, the individuals who voted for Michigan aren't absolved from ridicule. (I'd love to know which coach voted the Wolverines 10th! Charlie?) So let's dive right in.

Voting for Michigan
Wayne Phillips hailing from Tennessee, placed the winged helmets at 16th. I'm damn near speechless. One thing we can guarantee, Wayne didn't watch the game.
Myron Patton deserves the Oklahoma scrotum twist for his ranking of the Maize and Blue at 18. Mike Strain also from Oklahoma placed them at #25.
Parrish Alford is from Mississippi so we'll give him a break for having Michigan at #20. Probably spelled Ole Miss wrong.

Chuck Banning at #19

Jay G Tate at #22,
David Jones goes the weakest route possible with #25. Way to have some cajones David.
Pete DiPrimio thinks Michigan is just a hair behind Georgia Tech at #25,
Molly Yanity 25th. She doesn't have cajones, so we can't really criticize.

Each of these voters should have their privileges removed immediately. There's no explanation that suffices. If they beat Oregon impressively then return Michigan to your ballot. As the eloquent Mountaineer fans have put it, "34-32, Nuff Said."
 
Moving along, let's look at the puzzling placement that didn't involve anything Ann Arbor.

Neal McCready (AL) has jumped on several bandwagons. See if you can guess who. Georgia at 6, Missouri at 12, Hawaii at 16, Oregon at 17, Arizona State at 18.

Molly Yanity (WA) already lost all credibility with her placement of Michigan at 25. But we noticed a few other things. Oregon State at 14 and Oregon at 19? It might surprise you to know she has nothing from her bio screams "Oregon."

Dave Morrison (WV) is clearly trying to help out the Big East. Let's wait and see South Florida beat a good out of conference foe before we go placing them into the Top 15. Nice try to make a Mountaineers win look more impressive, though.

Scott Wolf (CA) makes this list often. Apparently Scott was so impressed with Syracuse; he bumped the Washington Huskies into 25th. Listen, I like Jake Locker. I also laughed at this sequence: 9-Ohio State, 10-California, 11-Rutgers, 12-Oklahoma. Scarlet Knights v. Sooners today, who are you taking? Not even close.

John Moredich (AZ) is showing no bias, none, with placing the Sun Devils at 17. That's 2 spots ahead of a team like Georgia, and 4 ahead of Penn State.

Ray Ratto (CA) has Ohio State at 6 and J.P. Giglio (NC) is the lone voter with West Virginia at 1. Two placements I'm not buying yet.

There's plenty more to pick apart, so feel free to look at this list of voters and put your reactions in the comments.

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9/7/07   |   Okiedays

jakeob1106 wrote:
lmao. Rutgers needs to worry about their teams at hand and we might meet in a bowl sometime.

I glanced at Ruts schedule WTF they have some crappy teams then they set their selves up for failure towards the end of the year. Prediction they will be ranked 22 at best. OU will be in top 5 and that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so!

9/7/07   |   Okiedays

IlliniBob72 wrote:

Check out Okieday's headline for the "Sonners" reference.

 

And you are right, last year has little to do with this year. So, if Rutgers and OU were to play tomorrow, what would you set the line at? I have already said that I'd make OU a 5 or 5 1/2 point favorite.

Ok your crazy. Rice good yes but he wouldn't be streakin down the field against the Sooners. Let's get real yes Boise beat them last year. Where did Zabransky go wait he was cut. SO let's see bring something better to the table. We could throw Mich into the mix after their loss. We will see when Rutgers plays, Cuse, WV, Pitt, and last but not least Louisville. They will drop like a steamin turd in an outhouse. OU would win by 14 or more over Rutgers any day.

9/6/07   |   Scotty L

Molly Yanity 25th. She doesn't have cajones, so we can't really criticize.

Ha too funny!

9/6/07   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

IlliniBob72 wrote:

Check out Okieday's headline for the "Sonners" reference.

 

And you are right, last year has little to do with this year. So, if Rutgers and OU were to play tomorrow, what would you set the line at? I have already said that I'd make OU a 5 or 5 1/2 point favorite.

(Edited by Jubanator14)

Neutral site, OU -6.5 trying to get people to push the line. In Norman it would be around -9 and in Rutgers it would be around -5.5 or 5 like you said. That is what I think Vegas would put the lines at, personally I think OU beats Rutgers by 14 or more. Rutgers doesn't play anyone with that kind of speed on D.

9/6/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

Check out Okieday's headline for the "Sonners" reference.

 

And you are right, last year has little to do with this year. So, if Rutgers and OU were to play tomorrow, what would you set the line at? I have already said that I'd make OU a 5 or 5 1/2 point favorite.

9/6/07   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

IlliniBob72 wrote:
You need reading lessons, my friend. I never said Rutgers would beat Oklahoma. However, after losing to Boise State last year, I find it impressive that "Sonner" fans can be so dismissive of Rutgers.

Sonner? Who are the Sonners? Boise St. would have beaten Rutgers in that Bowl Game had they played. Last year is over and what happened last year has no bearing on this year.

9/6/07   |   jakeob1106   |   15 respect

lmao. Rutgers needs to worry about their teams at hand and we might meet in a bowl sometime.

9/6/07   |   TODoubleD

IlliniBob72 wrote:
Really? You think Oklahoma rolls Rutgers? I don't claim to know both teams' ins and outs, but I would take Rutgers if they were, say, a 6 point dog.

And remember Appalachain State beat Michigan so Rutgers beating Oklahoma is definitely not out of the question!

9/6/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

Okiedays wrote:
Are you friggin crazy Rutgers over OU smoke some more of whatever your smoking.

You need reading lessons, my friend. I never said Rutgers would beat Oklahoma. However, after losing to Boise State last year, I find it impressive that "Sonner" fans can be so dismissive of Rutgers.

9/6/07   |   ToughGuy13

I'm fine with the fact some of the voters still ranked Michigan.  There's still a lot of talent on that team despite the loss last Saturday.  They'll go on to beat a few ranked teams before it's over.

However, despite the amount of talent on the team, they still lost to an FCS team.  There are well over 25 teams who did not lose to an FCS team last week, so it's understandable that the Wolverines drop out of the top 25.  I'd drop them out, too.

Different voters use different criteria in ranking teams, as we all do when we assess all things in life.  Some go by talent, some go by results.  It's best not to cry about who voted Michigan where, because the main point is that they're out of the poll overall.

9/6/07   |   Okiedays

IlliniBob72 wrote:
Really? You think Oklahoma rolls Rutgers? I don't claim to know both teams' ins and outs, but I would take Rutgers if they were, say, a 6 point dog.

Are you friggin crazy Rutgers over OU smoke some more of whatever your smoking.

9/6/07   |   CriticalFanatic

IlliniBob72 wrote:
LOL I see! So now I've sacrificed all college football credibility for having too much faith in the Golden Brewsters? I will never take Minnesota minus the points again.

You deserved at least two shots ... so now I'm done.

9/6/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

CriticalFanatic wrote:
You also took Minnesota and the 16 against BG, so there goes that

I don't know about rolls. I probably over emphasized a bit, but I bet the spread in that game is 6-7 on a neutral site. Ray Rice hasn't faced a solid run defense.

LOL I see! So now I've sacrificed all college football credibility for having too much faith in the Golden Brewsters? I will never take Minnesota minus the points again.

9/5/07   |   Jon   |   5 respect

John Moredich is based out of Tucson, so if anything, his bias would be against the Sun Devils. He'd probably have ASU at #1 if he wasn't in U of A land.

9/5/07   |   CriticalFanatic

Jubanator14 wrote:
Rutgers Defense couldn't handle the Sooners speed and power on Offense. Ray Rice wouldn't get 50 yards. Sooners would roll by 14+. Ok now enough of being a Sooner homer but for once I think that the pollsters got it right overall. There are a few here and there voters that probably should have their vote taken away but hey whose to say we could do better .

This gets much more fun as we go when voters start neglecting head to head matchups, etc. I would say that for the most part these week was far better than many last year. Still, someone ranking Michigan 16th takes the cake.

9/5/07   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

IlliniBob72 wrote:
Really? You think Oklahoma rolls Rutgers? I don't claim to know both teams' ins and outs, but I would take Rutgers if they were, say, a 6 point dog.

Rutgers Defense couldn't handle the Sooners speed and power on Offense. Ray Rice wouldn't get 50 yards. Sooners would roll by 14+. Ok now enough of being a Sooner homer but for once I think that the pollsters got it right overall. There are a few here and there voters that probably should have their vote taken away but hey whose to say we could do better .

9/5/07   |   CriticalFanatic

IlliniBob72 wrote:
Really? You think Oklahoma rolls Rutgers? I don't claim to know both teams' ins and outs, but I would take Rutgers if they were, say, a 6 point dog.
(Edited by CriticalFanatic)

You also took Minnesota and the 16 against BG, so there goes that

I don't know about rolls. I probably over emphasized a bit, but I bet the spread in that game is 6-7 on a neutral site. Ray Rice hasn't faced a solid run defense.

9/5/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

Really? You think Oklahoma rolls Rutgers? I don't claim to know both teams' ins and outs, but I would take Rutgers if they were, say, a 6 point dog.

9/5/07   |   fxdirect

Wasn't Ratto a huge WVa man last year too?  I seem to remember him being among the two voters who consistently ignored Florida, Ohio State, and Michigan and kept going with the Mountaineers.