Rajon Rondo has amazing triple double against Jeremy Lin while on trade block

Danny Ainge can't actually trade Rajon Rondo now... Can he?

3/5/12 in NBA   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

The Boston Celtics are an aging team, built around 3 future Hall of Famers who are showing serious signs of decline. Their championship window is closed, so realistically it's time to look toward the future and see where they'll go from here.

Keving Garnett and Ray Allen will be free agents after this season, and are expected to be gone. If they return, it will be for far less money than they're currently making, and in a diminished role.

Their current best player, and the only player on the current roster around which they could truly build a championship contender? Point guard Rajon Rondo.

Rondo's one of the most dynamic players in the league, and he's signed through 2014-15. He's an outstanding distributor, one of the best rebounding point guards in the league, and can score when he needs to. His defense is outstanding, and his only weakness is his shooting. He can get to the hoop as well as almost anyone, but he's really not an outside threat at all.

Overall, Rondo's a top 5 point guard in the NBA. He was even listed as the 12th best player to build a team around, in a poll among NBA players.

So of course, Celtics GM Danny Ainge is considering trading him.

Is it a wise choice? Some think so. The Celtics will have a ton of extra money to throw around this offseason, and they'll have the chance to sign someone like Deron Williams(10th on that same list, for what it's worth), if they end up finding a trade partner for Rondo.

One of the primary concerns, however, is that the Celtics won't be able to land a top-tier free agent, no matter how much money they're throwing around. Boston just isn't as appealing as cities like Brooklyn (where the Nets are heading), LA, Orlando, Chicago and others.

The Celtics can either use Rondo to bring in a star player via trade, in which case they'd probably have to give up more, even if it's just for a few-month rental like Dwight Howard, with no guarantee that he'll sign long-term. Or, they can keep Rondo, and hope that players want to play with him badly enough that they'll sign with the team.

To make things even more complicated, Rondo had a career game last night, with 18 points, 20 assists and 17 rebounds. On one hand, his trade value might never be higher. Only Wilt Chamberlain and Magic Johnson have ever had 17 or more points, rebounds an assists in the same game.

If the Celtics trade Rondo, who can they actually get? They tried for Chris Paul, and were rebuffed. Ainge is taking phone calls now, and there's no telling what he can get on the open market.

Is it a mistake to get rid of Rondo, especially when there's a chance that they could bring in one or two top-notch free agents in the offseason? Or are they doomed in free agent negotiations, and is it time to just blow it up and start over? Ainge got lucky a few years ago when he built the Big 3. Let's see if he can do it again.
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3/6/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

beerstudk wrote:
That's exactly what I was saying in the beginning of the season and now.... giving up Rondo, Green and a draft pick or two was too much for CP3.  Rondo is better off the dribble and a better defender than Paul, so as far as I'm concerned they're pretty much equal value.

And I seem to remember a certain featured writer/Celtic fan telling me that the trade Boston was trying to make for CP3 was a great deal because Paul was that much better than Rondo.... weird how a triple-doulbe changes some peoples perspectives

CP3 is definitely better than Rondo. And that trade would have been decent, especially considering Green may never play again.

But right now, there's not a viable trade out there involving Rondo that would benefit the Celtics. Not that I can see, at least.

3/6/12   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

Pat wrote:
CP3 would have been a great replacement, but that goes back to WhoDat12's point... are you really going to get equal value? To get CP3, they also woulda had to give up a draft pick  (or 2) and another quality player. CP3 isn't THAT much better, imo.

That's exactly what I was saying in the beginning of the season and now.... giving up Rondo, Green and a draft pick or two was too much for CP3.  Rondo is better off the dribble and a better defender than Paul, so as far as I'm concerned they're pretty much equal value.

And I seem to remember a certain featured writer/Celtic fan telling me that the trade Boston was trying to make for CP3 was a great deal because Paul was that much better than Rondo.... weird how a triple-doulbe changes some peoples perspectives

3/6/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

beerstudk wrote:
I was saying the same thing when there was the talk of trading him and two other players for CP3.  Dude is one of the best 3-4 PG's in the league right now and almost impossible to replace.

CP3 would have been a great replacement, but that goes back to WhoDat12's point... are you really going to get equal value? To get CP3, they also woulda had to give up a draft pick  (or 2) and another quality player. CP3 isn't THAT much better, imo.

3/6/12   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
Why would they trade him anyway? Who out there will give them equal value presently or in the future.  Some people are of the opinion that the Celtics can't build around Rondo, but I think they're wrong. He's a solid true point guard and there aren't many of them in the NBA.  There will likely be no more "Big 3" at season's end, which gives them that cap space to bring in someone to go with Rondo. Trading him would just be irresponsible & dumb.

I was saying the same thing when there was the talk of trading him and two other players for CP3.  Dude is one of the best 3-4 PG's in the league right now and almost impossible to replace.

3/6/12   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

Why would they trade him anyway? Who out there will give them equal value presently or in the future.  Some people are of the opinion that the Celtics can't build around Rondo, but I think they're wrong. He's a solid true point guard and there aren't many of them in the NBA.  There will likely be no more "Big 3" at season's end, which gives them that cap space to bring in someone to go with Rondo. Trading him would just be irresponsible & dumb.

3/5/12   |   BRye21   |   544 respect

Dan_B wrote:
Only the second player ever with a 15-15-15 game (or at least so they said on the telecast). Jason Kidd was the other (he did it twice I believe). 

He is one of only 3 all time players to have 15+,15+, 20+

The other two....Wilt Chamberlain and Oscar Robertson

3/5/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

Dan_B wrote:
Only the second player ever with a 15-15-15 game (or at least so they said on the telecast). Jason Kidd was the other (he did it twice I believe). 

I'm guessing that's among active players.

3/5/12   |   Dan_B   |   1067 respect

Only the second player ever with a 15-15-15 game (or at least so they said on the telecast). Jason Kidd was the other (he did it twice I believe).