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8/27/08
Ranking College Football Strongest Conferences Before Kickoff
Little Doubt Who Belongs On Top, The Rest Is More Complicated
It's one of the most debated topics every college football season, although the conversation should only address the order in which conferences follow the SEC.

Who's the strongest football conference as we head into the 2008 season? It's the Southeastern. I'm a Big Ten guy, but I won't let my bias blind me from the obvious. Frankly, I'm getting tired of the Big Televen vs SEC debates, because right now the Pacific 10 is a much more viable competitor. And as we head into this season, the Big XII has plenty to offer.

Here's my ranking of college football conferences before we kickoff. We'll do this each Tuesday of the regular season, when we have real results to compare. Share your rankings below.

1. SEC
Home to the defending national champions, who are likely going to take a step back this season, but LSU is still one of the nation's five most talented teams. The most talented also belongs to the Southeastern Conference in Athens, Georgia. Combined with Florida and Auburn, you have four teams that could be favored to win to compete with the best team in each of the major power conferences. Tennessee, Alabama and South Carolina are hardly slouches and show the extreme depth of the preeminent collegiate football conference.

One exercise I try to keep in mind when ranking conferences is taking a couple of the middle to bottom tier teams from one and sizing it up against the other. For instance, I think Mississippi State could finish in the top three in the Big East, and have a legit shot to win the ACC's Coastal Division this year. That says it all.

2. Big XII
At the end of last season this spot belonged to the Pac-10. The departure of Dennis Dixon and DeSean Jackson moved Oregon and Cal a step back, albeit small. That's enough though for me to move the Big XII up a notch with a bevy of good teams to go with a couple national title contenders. The Pac-10 has just one viable BCS contender in USC. The Big XII offers Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas with that kind of potential, while Kansas and Texas Tech are dangerous. Teams like Nebraska and Kansas State would finish in the top half of the Pac-10.

3. Pac-10
We know what to expect from USC every year. Last year, Cal, Oregon and Arizona State were all tough competition. This year, the gap is pretty large in my mind between the Trojans and the next best team. With Nate Costa basically out for the season for the Ducks, I remain even more convinced that the Trojans will have an easy run. So how would the Ducks, Bears and Sun Devils fair against other conferences top tier? Each would compete with Clemson for the ACC title and compete favorably against Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State. However, I don't like their odds against the likes of Florida, LSU and Auburn. Maybe not even Tennessee, Alabama and South Carolina.


4. Big Ten
OK, maybe my bias comes through here, but I don't think the conference is as down as most would like to believe. Despite their National Championship struggles, Ohio State is, FYI, a pretty damn good football team. Last season was supposed to be a slightly down year, while this year's Buckeyes are a more legitimate BCS contender. The biggest question, and one that will be answered during the first few weeks of the season, is how strong are the 2nd place challengers. Michigan State pays a visit to California Saturday night would which should tell us a lot. Purdue visits Oregon, Illinois takes on Missouri, and Penn State host Oregon State. All road teams will obviously be underdogs. Big Ten needs to win three of those four games to prove they've got depth to compete against the top three conferences. The conference needs Iowa and Northwestern to take step forward.

5. Big East
The margin between these final three BCS conferences is small. West Virginia remains the team to beat, but South Florida, Cincinnati, Rutgers and Pittsburgh are all strong. In fact, I'm fully aboard the Pitt bandwagon this season and think they'll compete for the title. What concerns me about the Big East is that Connecticut was a co-champion last year. That's not good. I'm admittedly always down on the Big East and with expectations low they tend to impress. Key games I'm watching early: Cincinnati at Oklahoma, Connecticut vs. Virginia, Louisville vs Kansas State, South Florida vs Kansas and Rutgers vs North Carolina.

6. ACC
Clemson is a very, very good team. On paper. Boston College and Virginia Tech take steps backward. Florida State remains shaky, but dangerous, as is Miami. Those two teams' success will define this conference. Wake Forest remains one of the most underrated teams in the country, but as a whole, besides Clemson, the top teams just don't match up with the rest of the country. Key games: Clemson vs Alabama, Wake Forest vs Ole Miss, Georgia Tech vs Mississippi State, North Carolina at Rutgers. Four wins there and I'll move the ACC up.

7. Mountain West - BYU, BYU, BYU. Utah could pull off an upset at Michigan on week 1.
8. WAC - Hawaii is down and out, but Fresno State and Boise State are always strong and much better than the top of these two conferences below.
9. Mid-American - Miami U and Central Michigan have two big games against the SEC early on.
10. Sun Belt - Troy is competitive, and on its way up as is Florida Atlantic.
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8/27/08
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no,no,no...gotta disagree w/where u pick th pac-10.th pac-10 outside of usc is WEAK.clearly,th rankings shud b-1)sec;2)big 12;3)big 10;4)acc;5)pac-10;6)big (l)east;7)mwc;8)wac;9)mac;10)sun belt...cusa will emerge & possibly challenge th wac,mac & sun belt 4 their positions

8/27/08
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Craig_M wrote:
no,no,no...gotta disagree w/where u pick th pac-10.th pac-10 outside of usc is WEAK.clearly,th rankings shud b-1)sec;2)big 12;3)big 10;4)acc;5)pac-10;6)big (l)east;7)mwc;8)wac;9)mac;10)sun belt...cusa will emerge & possibly challenge th wac,mac & sun belt 4 their positions
You think the ACC is better than the Big East? and the Pac 10? Whoa! NC stinks Virginia stinks Georgia Tech stinks NC St REALLY stinks Miami and FSU are trying to find their legs Wake Forest will come back to earth Clemson hasn't proved anything these last two years and that leaves us with VaTech and BC who came from.....the Big East

8/27/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
You think the ACC is better than the Big East? and the Pac 10? Whoa! NC stinks Virginia stinks Georgia Tech stinks NC St REALLY stinks Miami and FSU are trying to find their legs Wake Forest will come back to earth Clemson hasn't proved anything these last two years and that leaves us with VaTech and BC who came from.....the Big East
And as much as I hate to admit it, BC will not be very good this year. I love them, but Matt Ryan WAS their team last year. Without him, I honestly believe they would have lost 8 games. And now he's gone. It's shaping up to be a long year, IMO.

8/28/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
You think the ACC is better than the Big East? and the Pac 10? Whoa! NC stinks Virginia stinks Georgia Tech stinks NC St REALLY stinks Miami and FSU are trying to find their legs Wake Forest will come back to earth Clemson hasn't proved anything these last two years and that leaves us with VaTech and BC who came from.....the Big East
uhhh,yeah...lyk i sed th big least is incredibly weak.&,if u really take a long look @ th pac-10 u'll c that aftr usc there is no 1.th pac-10 skips a 2nd tier & @ best th rest of th conference is a 3rd tier.but,anyway,lets just watch how th season progresses then we will all c whats what in th ncaa

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
And as much as I hate to admit it, BC will not be very good this year. I love them, but Matt Ryan WAS their team last year. Without him, I honestly believe they would have lost 8 games. And now he's gone. It's shaping up to be a long year, IMO.
th acc will prove its worth.c'mon,just look @ who's in th big least.louisville,ha....they floundered last season & took a big fat nose dive.we're gonna end up w/rutgers leadin th way outta th big least.

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
th acc will prove its worth.c'mon,just look @ who's in th big least.louisville,ha....they floundered last season & took a big fat nose dive.we're gonna end up w/rutgers leadin th way outta th big least.
What about WVU? Last time I checked, they were a pretty good team. Pitt has a shot this year, and South Florida is still on the rise. You can talk about Rutgers and Louisville all you want, but those are middle-of-the-road Big East teams... why don't you talk about the top teams?

Oh yeah... because they blow your argument out of the water...

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
What about WVU? Last time I checked, they were a pretty good team. Pitt has a shot this year, and South Florida is still on the rise. You can talk about Rutgers and Louisville all you want, but those are middle-of-the-road Big East teams... why don't you talk about the top teams?

Oh yeah... because they blow your argument out of the water...
hmmm,wvu?nope,new coach as well as another yr them bein overrated.now,as much as i'd lyk 2 c pitt return 2 glory i seriously doubt it will hapn.theyre still 1 more yr away.as 4 s florida,ok,i'll admit i really dont know much bout them but its still th big least.get outta ur east coast bias.th rest of th nation is were th true powers of football r.as far as "th top teams" of th big least go...they cudnt hold th jock strap of th middle of th pack 4 th rest of th conferences.

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
hmmm,wvu?nope,new coach as well as another yr them bein overrated.now,as much as i'd lyk 2 c pitt return 2 glory i seriously doubt it will hapn.theyre still 1 more yr away.as 4 s florida,ok,i'll admit i really dont know much bout them but its still th big least.get outta ur east coast bias.th rest of th nation is were th true powers of football r.as far as "th top teams" of th big least go...they cudnt hold th jock strap of th middle of th pack 4 th rest of th conferences.
East Coast bias? Are you kidding me? How about you check the facts about the Big East playing the Big 12. You throw out the "east coast bias" argument like it's cool, but I haven't even said a single thing yet that could even remotely be considered biased.

Last year:
WVU beat Oklahoma (Big 12) and Mississippi State (SEC)
South Florida beat Auburn (SEC), lost to Oregon (Pac-10)
Cincinnati beat Oregon State (Pac-10)

Most Big East teams didn't play a lot of great out-of-conference games, but when they did, they did pretty well.

YOU are the one making biased statements that you can't possibly back up, because they have zero facts behind them.

Oklahoma won the Big 12 last year... WVU beat Oklahoma. Their ONLY losses last year were to OTHER Big East teams. So how do you figure they would be a middle of the pack team in the rest of the conferences? That makes literally no sense at all.

8/28/08
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no,it makes perfect sense..check out how th inter-conference competition.FACT:th big 12 is 10 tyms tuffer than th big least.FACT:th sec is tuffer than th big least.FACT:th big 10 is tuffer than th big least.2 reasons y wvu beat ou in th bowl game-1)FACT:IF wvu played anywhere near th schedule of ou it wudda been a much,much closer game;2)FACT:ou traditionally in th last few yrs have done absolutely nuthn in bowl games.FACT:all u wanna talk bout is how gr8 u think th big least is.thus,east coast bias is a true st8ment.get a clue man,ur th 1 thats st8in so-called "unbiased" opins.& as far as th "huge" win wvu had over msu...big deal,msu isnt that gr8 & wvu was sposed 2 win that game.& oregon st8 bein a gr8 team..oh get real,they play in a conference that cud very well b weaker than th big least.

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
East Coast bias? Are you kidding me? How about you check the facts about the Big East playing the Big 12. You throw out the "east coast bias" argument like it's cool, but I haven't even said a single thing yet that could even remotely be considered biased.

Last year:
WVU beat Oklahoma (Big 12) and Mississippi State (SEC)
South Florida beat Auburn (SEC), lost to Oregon (Pac-10)
Cincinnati beat Oregon State (Pac-10)

Most Big East teams didn't play a lot of great out-of-conference games, but when they did, they did pretty well.

YOU are the one making biased statements that you can't possibly back up, because they have zero facts behind them.

Oklahoma won the Big 12 last year... WVU beat Oklahoma. Their ONLY losses last year were to OTHER Big East teams. So how do you figure they would be a middle of the pack team in the rest of the conferences? That makes literally no sense at all.
altho i will say this...it is nice 2 deb8 w/sum1 that has an informed opin regardless of who u root 4 b it th big east,big 12,or which ever other conference there is 2 choose from.ur opins r truly researched & i enjoy ur input

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
East Coast bias? Are you kidding me? How about you check the facts about the Big East playing the Big 12. You throw out the "east coast bias" argument like it's cool, but I haven't even said a single thing yet that could even remotely be considered biased.

Last year:
WVU beat Oklahoma (Big 12) and Mississippi State (SEC)
South Florida beat Auburn (SEC), lost to Oregon (Pac-10)
Cincinnati beat Oregon State (Pac-10)

Most Big East teams didn't play a lot of great out-of-conference games, but when they did, they did pretty well.

YOU are the one making biased statements that you can't possibly back up, because they have zero facts behind them.

Oklahoma won the Big 12 last year... WVU beat Oklahoma. Their ONLY losses last year were to OTHER Big East teams. So how do you figure they would be a middle of the pack team in the rest of the conferences? That makes literally no sense at all.
1 other thing,wvu shudda come outta th big east undefeated.i felt their losses were due 2 bonehead mistakes from coachin decisions that werent th faults of th players.oh yeah,i enjoyed watchin wvu pummel ou,i thought it was gr8.bob stoops is a huge egomaniac & th drummin wvu gave em was hilarious & well-deserved.it was honestly terrific 2 c stoops nearly blow a gasket coz his "vaunted" defense cudntve fought their way outta wet paper sack.i loved it

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
no,it makes perfect sense..check out how th inter-conference competition.FACT:th big 12 is 10 tyms tuffer than th big least.FACT:th sec is tuffer than th big least.FACT:th big 10 is tuffer than th big least.2 reasons y wvu beat ou in th bowl game-1)FACT:IF wvu played anywhere near th schedule of ou it wudda been a much,much closer game;2)FACT:ou traditionally in th last few yrs have done absolutely nuthn in bowl games.FACT:all u wanna talk bout is how gr8 u think th big least is.thus,east coast bias is a true st8ment.get a clue man,ur th 1 thats st8in so-called "unbiased" opins.& as far as th "huge" win wvu had over msu...big deal,msu isnt that gr8 & wvu was sposed 2 win that game.& oregon st8 bein a gr8 team..oh get real,they play in a conference that cud very well b weaker than th big least.
You are saying my opinion is biased, because I disagree with you. But my opinion is solely based on facts. There is no room whatsoever for bias.

I'm not saying that the Big East is better than the SEC, but I think that it's competitive with most of the other conferences, and if you threw Texas in there, they would be somewhere between 2nd and 4th, just like they are in the Big 12.

8/28/08
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(Edited by Craig_M)
Pat wrote:
You are saying my opinion is biased, because I disagree with you. But my opinion is solely based on facts. There is no room whatsoever for bias.

I'm not saying that the Big East is better than the SEC, but I think that it's competitive with most of the other conferences, and if you threw Texas in there, they would be somewhere between 2nd and 4th, just like they are in the Big 12.
lol if my longhorns were in th big east they wud win th title yr in & yr out.th competition in th big 12 is way more difficult than th big east cud EVER b.ok,so ur 4gettin who won th national title 4 th 05-06 football season.just exactly how many titles have th teams of th big east won.compare that against th big 12's total 4 national titles.how's that 4 a fact? yet another fact-how many legit good teams r there in th big east?3,4 tops....take a look @ th big 12.we got no less than 5,more than likely 6 this season.do u really wanna go 4 facts.i can do this all freakin yr.th big 12 has how many teams in th preseason top 25?5 in th ap poll,5 in th usa today poll.how many 4 ur big east?2 in th ap,2 in th usa today.these r facts(yahoo sports as my reference).my opins r based solely on facts as well.th big 12 teams:ap-#4 ou;#6 mizzou;#11 texas;#12 texas tech;#14 kansas.usa today-#4 ou;#7 mizzou;#10 texas;#13 kansas;#14 texas tech.4 th big east:ap-#8 wvu;#19 s florida.usa today-#8 wvu;#21 s florida.theres my l8est facts.check em 4 urself.put wvu in th big 12 & they wud b LUCKY 2 finish @ .500 & s florida wudnt b that good.this is a no-brainer.th big east is not as good as th power conferences.it is true they play some good ball in th big east but no way do they stand a chance in any other conference.y do u think those teams that left th big east 4 greener pastures actually left?it all comes down 2 $$$$.they knew there was no chance 4 them 2 get th big paydays if they remained in th big east.i can continue 2 spew forth more & more facts if u wish 2 continue this any further.the st8ments i have made r based on facts.therefore,my st8ments arent opins but truth.look em up 4 urself

8/28/08
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This isn't a fact, but it's my prediction: Texas will finish this year out of the top 25.

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
This isn't a fact, but it's my prediction: Texas will finish this year out of the top 25.
hey,ya never know.they lost a lotta key players from last yrs team & mccoy's gonna need help.th defense can't do lyk they did last yr or itll b doom & gloom tym.i wudnt b surprised if ur prediction comes true but,i'm not throwin in th towel.i'm a believer in th horns & my prediction is 4 a top 12 finish by yrs end.besides,stranger things have hapnd in college football & we're both aware of that

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
lol if my longhorns were in th big east they wud win th title yr in & yr out.th competition in th big 12 is way more difficult than th big east cud EVER b.ok,so ur 4gettin who won th national title 4 th 05-06 football season.just exactly how many titles have th teams of th big east won.compare that against th big 12's total 4 national titles.how's that 4 a fact? yet another fact-how many legit good teams r there in th big east?3,4 tops....take a look @ th big 12.we got no less than 5,more than likely 6 this season.do u really wanna go 4 facts.i can do this all freakin yr.th big 12 has how many teams in th preseason top 25?5 in th ap poll,5 in th usa today poll.how many 4 ur big east?2 in th ap,2 in th usa today.these r facts(yahoo sports as my reference).my opins r based solely on facts as well.th big 12 teams:ap-#4 ou;#6 mizzou;#11 texas;#12 texas tech;#14 kansas.usa today-#4 ou;#7 mizzou;#10 texas;#13 kansas;#14 texas tech.4 th big east:ap-#8 wvu;#19 s florida.usa today-#8 wvu;#21 s florida.theres my l8est facts.check em 4 urself.put wvu in th big 12 & they wud b LUCKY 2 finish @ .500 & s florida wudnt b that good.this is a no-brainer.th big east is not as good as th power conferences.it is true they play some good ball in th big east but no way do they stand a chance in any other conference.y do u think those teams that left th big east 4 greener pastures actually left?it all comes down 2 $$$$.they knew there was no chance 4 them 2 get th big paydays if they remained in th big east.i can continue 2 spew forth more & more facts if u wish 2 continue this any further.the st8ments i have made r based on facts.therefore,my st8ments arent opins but truth.look em up 4 urself
I know Texas played Central Florida really tough last year, winning by THREE whole points. That's a C-USA team brother: What happened to UCF when they played South Florida? ....64-12
You rightly pointed out Louisville was disappointing last year.....BUT they still whipped the crap out of NC State IN RALEIGH....USF hammered UNC   ...BIG EAST> ACC
Polls mean nothing, results count.......
I'm sure you are a Big 12 honk that will be humbled by USF's victory over Kansas in three weeks.
Texas will stumble home with an Alamo Bowl bid.
Matt Grothe > Colt McCoy

8/28/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
I know Texas played Central Florida really tough last year, winning by THREE whole points. That's a C-USA team brother: What happened to UCF when they played South Florida? ....64-12
You rightly pointed out Louisville was disappointing last year.....BUT they still whipped the crap out of NC State IN RALEIGH....USF hammered UNC   ...BIG EAST> ACC
Polls mean nothing, results count.......
I'm sure you are a Big 12 honk that will be humbled by USF's victory over Kansas in three weeks.
Texas will stumble home with an Alamo Bowl bid.
Matt Grothe > Colt McCoy
Well I am a B12 honk and I think KU is gonna lose big to USF. I am hoping for CU to upset WVU in Boulder this year.
Plus MCcraig and his typing is giving me a freaking headache I cant stand to read crap like that.

8/28/08
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danny_n94 wrote:
Well I am a B12 honk and I think KU is gonna lose big to USF. I am hoping for CU to upset WVU in Boulder this year.
Plus MCcraig and his typing is giving me a freaking headache I cant stand to read crap like that.
oh waa quit ur cryin danny.y not use a short hand version of words insteada typin out th whole word & usin up so much space??

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
oh waa quit ur cryin danny.y not use a short hand version of words insteada typin out th whole word & usin up so much space??
Honestly, it's a lot easier to read when it's written properly... but that's just me.

8/28/08
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Pat wrote:
Honestly, it's a lot easier to read when it's written properly... but that's just me.
well,i type th way i talk.do u seriously expect me 2 believe that u pronounce each & every letter of each & every word? i doubt it.c'mon,we're americans..it's practicle our duty 2 slaughter th queen's english.as far as usin leet (usin alphanumeric characters 2 spell words) i will continue 2 use that as well.but thats just me...yeah,i can b smug 2 pat

8/28/08
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Craig_M wrote:
well,i type th way i talk.do u seriously expect me 2 believe that u pronounce each & every letter of each & every word? i doubt it.c'mon,we're americans..it's practicle our duty 2 slaughter th queen's english.as far as usin leet (usin alphanumeric characters 2 spell words) i will continue 2 use that as well.but thats just me...yeah,i can b smug 2 pat
Personally, I think it just makes you look ignorant when you type like that. No offense, that's just how I feel.

9/25/09
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I honestly do not think that anyone will be lucky enough to finish this season without at least one loss. There are just too many powerhouses out there and lest we forget the little guys who live for the upset. In the SEC, Florida did not show me anything last weekend against TN, without Harvin Tebow looked a little lame, (gives an LSU girl a little hope), Ole Miss showed that their offense is lacking against SC. Actually no one in the conference has really played a game of true test. The Tide will roll into Arkansas this weekend and I think that they will be the dominant tem. Truth is, this conference is so strong in so many different areas that no one could possibly predict the outcome YET...tune in every weekend and see for yourself how it will all play out.

9/25/09
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I honestly do not think that anyone will be lucky enough to finish this season without at least one loss. There are just too many powerhouses out there and lest we forget the little guys who live for the upset. In the SEC, Florida did not show me anything last weekend against TN, without Harvin Tebow looked a little lame, (gives an LSU girl a little hope), Ole Miss showed that their offense is lacking against SC. Actually no one in the conference has really played a game of true test. The Tide will roll into Arkansas this weekend and I think that they will be the dominant tem. Truth is, this conference is so strong in so many different areas that no one could possibly predict the outcome YET...tune in every weekend and see for yourself how it will all play out.

9/25/09
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I honestly do not think that anyone will be lucky enough to finish this season without at least one loss. There are just too many powerhouses out there and lest we forget the little guys who live for the upset. In the SEC, Florida did not show me anything last weekend against TN, without Harvin Tebow looked a little lame, (gives an LSU girl a little hope), Ole Miss showed that their offense is lacking against SC. Actually no one in the conference has really played a game of true test. The Tide will roll into Arkansas this weekend and I think that they will be the dominant tem. Truth is, this conference is so strong in so many different areas that no one could possibly predict the outcome YET...tune in every weekend and see for yourself how it will all play out.

9/26/09
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Louisiana_Woman wrote:
I honestly do not think that anyone will be lucky enough to finish this season without at least one loss. There are just too many powerhouses out there and lest we forget the little guys who live for the upset. In the SEC, Florida did not show me anything last weekend against TN, without Harvin Tebow looked a little lame, (gives an LSU girl a little hope), Ole Miss showed that their offense is lacking against SC. Actually no one in the conference has really played a game of true test. The Tide will roll into Arkansas this weekend and I think that they will be the dominant tem. Truth is, this conference is so strong in so many different areas that no one could possibly predict the outcome YET...tune in every weekend and see for yourself how it will all play out.
Alabama was tested: they beat a very good VT team at a neutral site to open the college football weekend.

9/26/09
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MarkTheShark wrote:
Alabama was tested: they beat a very good VT team at a neutral site to open the college football weekend.

So you are saying that you think VT is as good as one of the SEC powerhouses?


9/26/09
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Louisiana_Woman wrote:

So you are saying that you think VT is as good as one of the SEC powerhouses?

"as good as" Florida? NO. ..."as good as" Arkansas? Better. Here's the thing, this whole conference argument isn't applicable in today's college football: Cincinnati is as good as any team in the country. So is Boise State. Conferences can still be debated as a whole, but I think the days are long gone where you can use a blanket statement like oh the WAC sucks or the Big Ten or SEC will always win out-of-conference games...cause they don't.

 
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