Tennis

Roger Federer: Is He Arrogant Or Just Plain Confident?

8/23/09 in Tennis   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

We all agree, NOW, that Roger Federer is the greatest Men's tennis player who has ever played the game.  You know the numbers, so I am now going to go into them.  I am going to touch a subject that Rick Riley kind of brought up in an article he wrote on ESPN a couple weeks back.  Rick wrote about his disdain of the lack of class displayed by some of the biggest names in sports when they celebrate victories.  One in particular, Roger Federer.  Rick did not like the way Roger wore a sweater with the number 15 on it after beating Andy Roddick in this year's Wimbeldon Final.  Granted it was small and towards the bottom of the sweater, but what Rick was trying to say was it was staged and not really spontaneous. 

What I wish to discuss is this celebration at Wimbeldon.  I really rooted for Roger at the French to win his first French and when he did, I said to myself that he is now the best.  Coming into Wimbeldon, Roger was the man to beat as Nadal was out due to injury.  Roger cruised to the finals and Roddick fought his way to them.  The final was awesome.  Roddick had a chance to win the second set to go up 2-0, but Federer pulls it out.  The match goes 5 sets and eventually Federer breaks Roddick's serve to win the match.  Again, we all saw the replay...yada yada.

But what some may not have seen was the absolute lack of class displayed by Federer when he accepted his trophy.  He actually had the gall to wear a sweater with the number 15, to signify that he had broken Pete Sampras' record of 14 GS singles titles.  The person interviewing him pointed it out.  Now he seemed embarrassed by it, but he still WORE it.  Now I realize he has been playing tennis since he could stand up and hold a racquet, but come on!  You do not insult your opponent by wearing something like that.  What you do is you wear that during the post match interviews OFF the court.  I was extremely disappointed with the way Federer handled that situation.  I can no longer watch him play.  He disgusts me.  I found it to be arrogant and insulting.  Did Pete wear a number 14 when he broke the previous record?  Classless and arrogant.  That is the only thing I remember from that Wimbeldon now and really wish I could remember something else. 

I felt awful for Roddick.  Federer has the nerve to say to Roddick, "I was in your position last year."  Roddick put it best, you have 4 more titles, though.  Federer had no answer to that.  Again, Federer has won so much and gotten used to winning that he has no idea how to comfort an opponent.  He cries like a bitch when loses and cries at awkward times.  Nadal has owned him and he knows it.  If Nadal is across the net in an GS final, Federer knows that he has a strong chance of losing the final.   If Nadal would stop grinding himself to death, Federer would be scared out of his mind. 

I don't care how many sponsors you have, having your monogram on all your gear including the plastic that covers your new racquets is ridiculous.  The RF suite in NYC is even more annoying.  I hate to say it, but he is actually more irritating than McEnroe was when he played.  JohnnyMac did it with the mouth.  Federer just does it with a bunch of odd, smaller things that are so insane you just shake your head. 

He is a nice guy overall, I just wish he would think before he would do these sort of things.  Maybe fatherhood would put some perspective in his life, but I doubt it.
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10/5/09   |   Milan_Corner

ani28733 wrote:
he's just plain confident.....................he is a great person and respects his opponents hw can u call him an arrogant.he is a genius

He is just confident with more down to earth attitude

9/9/09   |   ani28733

he's just plain confident.....................he is a great person and respects his opponents hw can u call him an arrogant.he is a genius

9/9/09   |   aks9

himanshikampani723 wrote:
roger federer the best dude!! best player in the world......

Roger is more controlled towards the game which makes him more matches with more confident. Nadal is also sportive

8/27/09   |   SOHEIL22

Naziha wrote:
Ms tennis (Roger ) is not arrogent .. he is perfect tennis player ... i dont know wat jacket samprass wear on his 11 grandslam when he broken some one record ... but in roger situation is different ... he was waiting for this feat  for so many occasion .. as for as tears ..from first GS fianl to till he won the 15 th final he was cry almost every final he won .. but he really lost his cool on AUS open bcoz tats is wonderful tornoment ... federer ..he is best .. his is role model for all the people who really wanna to be a gud sportsman .....

hi. i am amir

8/27/09   |   jknaveen

Roger fed is great player.

8/26/09   |   missgirly93

think it is just plain confidence but truth is he really knows the game, I can bet my salary for the next 5 years on that.

8/26/09   |   su_sane61

simply can't agree with you idiot. you only sour graping . well, we are in this democratic world and you are free to demonstrate your bias opinions on small things like numbers, logos etc...consider the fact that he really is great with that number 15 you allowed ur emtions pissed u off. 

8/25/09   |   jmitra2

 I had posted this way back in the comments, just wanted to ensure that everyone knows Federer's perspective:
msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/9916294/THE-STORY-BEHIND-THE-NO.-15-JACKET-

8/25/09   |   arijit_86_chowdhury

A true legend, of course confident too.

8/25/09   |   jgwed88

Roger is just plain confident..that's why his the best player of all time...

8/25/09   |   himanshikampani723

roger federer the best dude!! best player in the world......

8/25/09   |   kims_klm

roger federer is being a professional, don't see him that he is arrogant. i like the way he played!

8/25/09   |   vbpradeep   |   19 respect

No not at all he is not arrogant, i like him and his confident.

8/24/09   |   azedbjg

he's just confident..

8/24/09   |   Poli_   |   93 respect

I can't wait until he wears 16, 17 and 18...geeze move on man, for pity sake! Or until you wear a jersey with 1 on it.

8/24/09   |   Herb_and_Spice

Let me first say I'm a Sampras fan. But Federer is not arrogant, and if he was, he'd have the right to be.

But this article, or at least the description is ridiculous...To call Federer arrogant is just idiotic. First of all, he did not set that 15 on to his jacket, Nike, his sponsor did. And even if he agreed to it, so what, it's not like he's rubbing it in everyone's face. It's not like he's a football player making a huge spectacle after one TD...we're talking about a guy that humbly celebrated an amazing achievement...

8/24/09   |   cleovasques

he is just calm player and precise on his move and confident of course

8/24/09   |   fanilica

Hey falks ! Do you hear about ILIE NASATASE ??? Is one of THE BEST PLAYERS from the world !!!

8/24/09   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

According to Beyonce, it's confidence.

8/24/09   |   truely   |   76 respect

did u checkout  rogers game faces  he dont need to frown

8/24/09   |   swami_vish

she is not play well

8/24/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

How is this thread still going? 

8/24/09   |   gilmoreguy903

the only people who find Federer arrogant are those not comfortable in their own skin.

Federer is just plain confident (and why shouldn't he be?), and this article is just plain bitter, if not stupid!

8/24/09   |   moneshinfy1

Naziha wrote:
Ms tennis (Roger ) is not arrogent .. he is perfect tennis player ... i dont know wat jacket samprass wear on his 11 grandslam when he broken some one record ... but in roger situation is different ... he was waiting for this feat  for so many occasion .. as for as tears ..from first GS fianl to till he won the 15 th final he was cry almost every final he won .. but he really lost his cool on AUS open bcoz tats is wonderful tornoment ... federer ..he is best .. his is role model for all the people who really wanna to be a gud sportsman .....

I think he is arrogant but good player

8/24/09   |   Naziha   |   2 respect

jmitra2 wrote:
 Hey, do your homework before you malign a great sportsman ok ? Here's Federer's POV :
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/9916294/THE-STORY-BEHIND-THE-NO.-15-JACKET-

Ms tennis (Roger ) is not arrogent .. he is perfect tennis player ... i dont know wat jacket samprass wear on his 11 grandslam when he broken some one record ... but in roger situation is different ... he was waiting for this feat  for so many occasion .. as for as tears ..from first GS fianl to till he won the 15 th final he was cry almost every final he won .. but he really lost his cool on AUS open bcoz tats is wonderful tornoment ... federer ..he is best .. his is role model for all the people who really wanna to be a gud sportsman .....

8/24/09   |   riaa   |   38 respect

(Edited by riaa)

showing ur pleasure and giving pleasure to others(i.e,his fans) does not mean he is arrogant or is insulting anyone...it is jus that he wanted to show his pleasure rather insulting his oopponent like this...he is having other ways to insult his opponent who according to me was arrogant ....and if u r talking about pete he is no god in his career he has done so many such things wich according to some was insulting and arrogant but accordind to me its jus the pleasure of winning not the intention to harm anyone....
as for roger he was very down to earth wen he actually won that 15th title of his career and he tried to comfort his opponent also before doing any thing like this...
if that guy don't wanna see him playing again it is his loss not roger's....

and dear writer plz stop bitching about others and try to look the real thing behind the scenes...

8/24/09   |   duttaramen

I dont see how it is so insulting to wear a jacket written 15. Then you will say celebrating the win is a insulting. Only difference is that it is something new you have not seen before. Is taking the trophy is insulting as well? I think more than Roddick you r insulted because u hated the result of the match. Players get insulted by the score more than anything. Roddick was much more insulted when he lost in AO-2007 (6-4,6-0,6-2).

Do you remember he also said "I was in the lucky side today" after the final?Did you get insulted by that also? At least not Roddick I can guarantee you.  I can not remember any winner saying like that after all the 5 set finals in last one year.
Nowadays federer-haters are looking for any thing to make a huge issue and put him down somehow. As federer is againg winning they can not get him down by the match performance analysis. So it is quiet espected that they try to prove him arrogent and all that.

8/24/09   |   shawie_marie

yes he is just plain confident, i love him as a man...very simple and friendly...

8/24/09   |   harshavarma92

you got to be kidding yourself.your view is totally biased.

8/24/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

More, please more.

8/24/09   |   paris509332   |   5 respect

(Edited by paris509332)

Arrogance is part of sport. He is a phenomenal tennis player with 15 grand slam titles to his name and there's nothing else to it.

by the way, the label on my bra says 34 on it, I also got an extra 34 fan iq points today...am I arrogant?
PATHETIC

8/24/09   |   pap_tv

Tell me, are you really a qualified journalist or someone masquerading unconvincingly as one? The tone and 'content' of this article is highly objectionable, but I'm sorry to know that this 'pretty nice guy overall'  'disgusts' you...no hint of absurd contradiction in that one. A really terrible, actually pretty pathetic article in basically every respect. Federer, in addition to being likely the greatest player tennis has ever seen, is a terrific ambassador for the sport and a wonderful role model for kids with the respectful demeanour he sports in the face of extraordinary pressure to continue breaking records. His unrivalled popularity among the players themselves is testimony to this. As far as the remark he made during his Wimbledon acceptance speech, only someone intent on denigrating the man would construe it in the way you have. He was clearly, given a second or so to muster a response, trying to respectfully downplay his achievement through empathy...pointing out that he has indeed been in that position before. All in all, in addition to being utterly vacuous, an unpleasant and depressing article.

8/24/09   |   imanazlan

 Well, marketing strategy = nike. 
The author here is plain ridiculous. I'm not a big fan of federer but hey, I really think that the author is being so immature. You should've learn more on how to write unbiased articles.
Thanks.

8/24/09   |   patriciayong

I  find Roger most gentlemanly, off court and on court.  When he scores big points, he does not make a big deal unless, it was a point that really matters.  He is a good loser; and concede defeat graciously.  I can understand Nike preparing for his win; and win he did.  When he was handed the jacket, he just obliged his sponsor and the fact still remains ... he won.  Congratulations Roger!!!  Some people are poor losers.  Roger in fact can relate to Andy's pain of losing and said so to comfort him.  All players want to win; however, there can be only one winner.  Well done Roger!!!

8/24/09   |   LKNOWZHIZSHIT2   |   12 respect

djjfrench wrote:
PS I need NFL to start back up SOON cause the Fan IQ is turning into a gossip column here.  I'm ready for some sport analysis and good ol' banter.

Who cares about him wearing 15.  He more than likely made a mil for wearing it.  He is the best so why not be arrogant.

8/24/09   |   mopatel

sportsgnork wrote:
Nah, i would rather take the Jamele Hill or Jason Wilbon approach, thanks anyway. 

your an idiot.Go and learn tennis and sports writing dumb-ass

8/24/09   |   mopatel

The writer is an idiot.He lacks partiality as he is american and couldnt bear to see roddick lose and sampras record broken.grow up.roger is eloquent but i know he gets nervous when he is faced with on the spot questions.his english is good, but not straight from the brain,sometimes he answers as quickely as he can.i wonder when ALI said I AM THE GREATEST< if you felt the same way.Roger does NOT market himself,NIKE does, an AMERICAN comapny so go and complain to them.Nike made an ad, before he won wimbledon with serena,michael jordan,mcenroe and sampras congradulating roger on his 15th win.BEFORE he won.So stop being a hater and honour the G.O.A.T

8/24/09   |   veni_damini   |   89 respect

Roger's power is his confidence. His confidence in himself is making him go like this.

8/24/09   |   eyesmile72

sportsgnork wrote:
No doubt.  I wrote this out of boredom.  I knockout my honeydo list this weekend all of yesterday like a boss!  Heading to South Bend for Labor day, but football needs to get here soon.  Fantasy football, CFB and NFL will rule my world from September till February. 

 Let me assume the kind of person you are: sore-loser, naive, immature, typical americana fan who wishes to see american wins all....hehe...but NOT AGAIN. Rewind again, where does NIKE originate? What does corporate America best at? ..."Marketing USA" means anything to your short-sighted mindset? Making money from superstars, celebrities, etc...Isn't those typical of "Business the USA-way 101." If you're a pure-bred americana, watch your mouth....you just backfired yourself.

8/24/09   |   engr_phyxasyed

(Edited by engr_phyxasyed)

Head to head statistics matters when both the players qualify for same level of play. As for Federer, although clay is not for him, but he had been reaching the semi-finals and finals for the last four years in French Open and losing (It showed that he is the second best clay courter). Federer is also reaching in other 3 Grand Slams for the last four years and Nadal skewed the head to head statistics by not reaching into finals to play against Federer as he is not good enough for all the surfaces other than Clay. Excluding French Open head to head is 2-2. Overall 20 matches played between Nadal and Federer, 11 were on Clay. Excluding Clay court, head to head for both players with Federer leading 6-3, i think.

From 2004 Federer and Nadal are No 1 and No 2 with Federer on No 1 spot for 245 weeks and Nadal, i think, 44 weeks. When better player is discussed, no only head to head counts but also how one is playing against all. So Nadal does not own him, however Federer does, overall.

However Nadal was also a very good player from mid of 2008 to start of 2009. During this time, he was dominating everybody and Federer was unable to show his class during this time due to the reason he was pressurized due to not winning French, equalizing Petes record and back problems and Nadal was blessed due to these Federer problems. Now Federer has achieved French Open, broken the Petes records and is healthy and back, Nadal is broken mentally and physically.

8/24/09   |   Timi2u   |   7 respect

There is no arrogance when your the best and you know it.  Roger Federer is the best tennis player ever.  When he was losing to Nadal, he wasn't 100 percent healthy.  Also, no matter how great a player is, he is not going to win every tournament.  About wearing the #15 on his sweater, come on how petty can you get saying Roger is arrogant because of that.  News Flash... Federer wins the Open!

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

jmitra2 wrote:
 Hey, do your homework before you malign a great sportsman ok ? Here's Federer's POV :
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/9916294/THE-STORY-BEHIND-THE-NO.-15-JACKET-

Nah, i would rather take the Jamele Hill or Jason Wilbon approach, thanks anyway. 

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

djjfrench wrote:
Make it happen captain!

No, no, no!  Make it so, number 1. 

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

sportsgnork wrote:
Excellent idea. 

May I suggest the Roto Arcade Juggernaut Index?? or http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/ for this little ordeal we speak of anyone?

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

sportsgnork wrote:
Excellent idea. 

Make it happen captain!

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

Pat wrote:
Nadal doesn't own him. He owns him on clay. On every other surface, Federer has been pretty dominant overall. Nadal only started beating him on other surfaces within the past year.

As for the real subject at hand, I agree with djjfrench. If one of the players has a problem with it, they just need to beat him. As long as he's dominating the tennis world, there's really not much anyone can say to him.

Well, Pat technically Nadal does own him when it counts.  Nadal is 5-2 against Federer in GS finals.  Three French, 1 Wimbeldon and 1 Aussie.  So I guess you could say, he owns him when it matters.

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

djjfrench wrote:
Matter of fact...we should have had an article every day just about for preseason team reports from various sites on here as a build up.

Excellent idea. 

8/23/09   |   jmitra2

(Edited by jmitra2)

 Hey, do your homework before you malign a great sportsman ok ? Here's Federer's POV :
http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/9916294/THE-STORY-BEHIND-THE-NO.-15-JACKET-

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

djjfrench wrote:
PS I need NFL to start back up SOON cause the Fan IQ is turning into a gossip column here.  I'm ready for some sport analysis and good ol' banter.

Matter of fact...we should have had an article every day just about for preseason team reports from various sites on here as a build up.

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

djjfrench wrote:
PS I need NFL to start back up SOON cause the Fan IQ is turning into a gossip column here.  I'm ready for some sport analysis and good ol' banter.

Yeah it's not just this but it's seeming like everything is either Michael Vick or gossip. I'm just dying for some break down on some teams...why aren't more people doing pre season reports on the NFL??? Maybe I need to sign up as a writer.

8/23/09   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

Pat wrote:
Nadal doesn't own him. He owns him on clay. On every other surface, Federer has been pretty dominant overall. Nadal only started beating him on other surfaces within the past year.

As for the real subject at hand, I agree with djjfrench. If one of the players has a problem with it, they just need to beat him. As long as he's dominating the tennis world, there's really not much anyone can say to him.

 I am not sure what surfaces he has played him on but Nadal leads 13 to 7 head to head I would say that is close to owning him.

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

djjfrench wrote:
PS I need NFL to start back up SOON cause the Fan IQ is turning into a gossip column here.  I'm ready for some sport analysis and good ol' banter.

No doubt.  I wrote this out of boredom.  I knockout my honeydo list this weekend all of yesterday like a boss!  Heading to South Bend for Labor day, but football needs to get here soon.  Fantasy football, CFB and NFL will rule my world from September till February. 

8/23/09   |   sportsgnork   |   44 respect

Surprising and strong opinions. Apparently I am a journalist?!  Not really because this rant would never had made it past a true column editor.  I just didn't curse and the FanIq gods allowed it to be posted. 

If you think this is inflammatory, I am going to rant about how the Italian National team stole the 2006 FIFA world cup by diving and time wasting their way to the title; they should be stripped of their title immediately.  Matterazzi deserved what he got too.  Zizou is the greatest footballer of the modern era. I will describe how once and for all how diving can be eradicated from futbol.  Stay tuned. 

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

PS I need NFL to start back up SOON cause the Fan IQ is turning into a gossip column here.  I'm ready for some sport analysis and good ol' banter.

8/23/09   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

keppieboy wrote:
 Federer is a great player but other than Nadal who owns him is there anyone else in tennis now that is a real great player. I do not care if he wins 20 GS titles I can not say he is the best ever.

Nadal doesn't own him. He owns him on clay. On every other surface, Federer has been pretty dominant overall. Nadal only started beating him on other surfaces within the past year.

As for the real subject at hand, I agree with djjfrench. If one of the players has a problem with it, they just need to beat him. As long as he's dominating the tennis world, there's really not much anyone can say to him.

8/23/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

Don't want him to wear the jacket BEAT HIM.  All that should do is motivate people to play harder, it's a jacket people need to stop being so damn sensitive about everything...it's a JACKET.  Federer as far as I've known has always been gracious and always been in line so 1 act doesn't speak about this man completely.

8/23/09   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

 Federer is a great player but other than Nadal who owns him is there anyone else in tennis now that is a real great player. I do not care if he wins 20 GS titles I can not say he is the best ever.

8/23/09   |   maya_j

(Edited by maya_j)

Federer is the best player ever and the statistics prove that. You can write whatever you like about him but that won't change the fact he palys one of the best tennis ever if not the best and he proved that yesterday against murray and today against djokovic. And I don't see anything bad in him wearing a sweater with numbur 15 or why it should be insulting for his opponent in the match. He always treats with respect his opponents and never argues with them or the chair umpire. And he has right to be confindent; his achievements allow him that!

8/23/09   |   tnchat

The article disgusts me ! The so called sports journalists like u disgusts me. I want to know yr basic qualifications. U r one of those whose father would hv continuously told that u could hv been one of the greatest in life only if u did some hard work but b'cos u r only intelligent u could not become great hence landed up as a journalist.......hence u cannot tolerate greatness.
Roger is such an inspiration ! The way he carries himself on or off the court is truly inspiring. Wearing a jacket with 15 after winning 15 GS - whats the big deal ? Thats arrogance ? In what way ? Sometimes its good to be proud of some achievements which have history level weightage. There was no show off - nothing, he was displaying something which was a tremendous achievement and was a fact ! So stop this bs media nonsense.

8/23/09   |   FedFan4eva

Fed is not arrogant...!! How can you even say that...??? Fed by mentioning to last years match to Roddick wasn't exactly referring to a loss. He was mentioning how close the match was this year as well as last and how close Roddick was to winning. It was a sign of appreciation and acknowledgement...

8/23/09   |   rajeshdm9   |   6 respect

 Of course he's just plain confident ... haven't u heard him say that when nadal became the no.1 he said "U dserve it " to nadal . how can he be arrogant ????????????

8/23/09   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

 Maybe with your expalnation you just hate Roger's guts since he has this and I for one don't know whether he does it with intent or not and I know for sure that's the prize for fame and he can't  just please everybody