San Jose Sharks Lose 4-1 To The Anaheim Mighty Ducks, Knocked Out Of NHL Playoffs

Sharks Crumble.....Again

4/28/09 in NHL   |   rileyjames47   |   respect

Well, there is nothing new here as tonight the Sharks became only the 8th team to be ranked as a number 1 seed and lose to the number 8 seed. As a Sharks fan I saw it coming really.

The last part of the season they seemingly lost all that great hockey that got them The Presidents Trophy. The last month of the regular season they actually really stunk. It is hard to imagine that a team with so much talent can become so bad when the playoffs come. They really didn't play bad the last two games, but why didn't they play that hard to begin the series? They knew the Ducks were hot coming in and were a tough physical team. Yes, tough and physical, the key words that don't describe the Sharks, and never really has except for years ago when they were new to the league.

I suppose simply put they don't have the hard nose tough physical players you must have to win the Stanley Cup. Heck, Ryan Clowe was one of their best and most physical players yet he was invisible during the whole series as was Joe Pavelski and many others. They simply lost to a tougher more physical team, and a super-hot goaltender, who the Red Wings will probably light up like a lighthouse.

On the other hand, Nabakov once again was not great in any of these playoff games, although neither was the defense, so what does Doug Wilson do? They have great young players, they went out and got Todd McLellan, who I think is a great coach, they got great blue liners and they couldn't get past round 1 of The Stanley Cup Playoffs. They may all say it was Hiller being a hot goalie, but it was the fact that they need tougher and more hard nosed players, those are the guys who win cups.
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5/1/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Raider_Dave wrote:
I hate to say it, but Nabby, Marleau, and/or Thornton need to be shopped and/or shipped out.  Or we need to cut Nabby's starts by at least 1/3.

I don't know.  I just don't know.  It seems like they tried everything.  The only reason I say move the core three guys is because they have tried everything BUT that.  I'd really like Marleau to stay.  But man....  I have absolutely no idea here.  This team is an absolute mystery.

This playoff failure is particuarly bad.  Not just because they were a 1 beaten by an 8.  Which is terrible.  But right off the bat in Game one, you saw that they just weren't there.  They shot a lot, but you could sense that they just didn't have it.

I hear Wilson's job is safe.  Well, he's got his job cut out for him.  But, maybe his position needs to be re-evaluated as well....

5/1/09   |   bigmxpres

ML31 wrote:
Think of it this way...  Even if the refs called that right, it would not mean the Sabres would have gone on to win.

But I understand your pain.

Oh, I agree totally, may not have even won that game... I just think that if you are a referee...with replay at your disposal...you should be able to get it right....they didn't. Give them the chance to win or lose fairly and I'd be okay with it

5/1/09   |   Raider_Dave   |   47 respect

ML31 wrote:
This may be an emotional reaction, but at this point, I'm thinking the core needs to just be blown up and rebuilt.  They just aren't getting anywhere save one trip to the Conference Finals with this group.

I hate to say it, but Nabby, Marleau, and/or Thornton need to be shopped and/or shipped out.  Or we need to cut Nabby's starts by at least 1/3.

5/1/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

bigmxpres wrote:
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that...The Warriors did get hot in that series.  And definitely agree on the hot goaltender bit....I am die-hard Sabres fan.  If not for D. Hasek in the late 90's, Buffalo would never have had the chance to get screwed in the finals when Brett Hull's skate was in the crease.  S***...10 years ago and I'm still Pi***d about that!!!!!!

Think of it this way...  Even if the refs called that right, it would not mean the Sabres would have gone on to win.

But I understand your pain.

5/1/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Raider_Dave wrote:
Since Valentine's Day, the Sharks were 18-16-2.  Hardly a world beater.  They had an awesome start to the season, but once teams began to figure them out, they were just another team.

It wasn't teams figuring them out.  It was more like they took the foot off the gas once the playoffs became a foregone conclusion.  Also, as deep as the team seemed, once the injury bug hit them, they just weren't the same team.  The entire last 3 months of the season were played not with their full healthy roster.  Not making excuses.  All teams go through it.  I think it more had to do with them coasting into the post season.  But then, Detroit and Boston both sputtered somewhat down the stretch too.

I don't know.  I just don't know what this team is lacking.  This year the lack of intensity was obvious from game one.  But previous years that really didn't seem to be a problem. 
This team is an enigma.

5/1/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Raider_Dave wrote:
I think either Thornton or Marleau get moved this offseason.  Marleau is the Captain and has a no-trade clause, but he needs to take his share of the blame as he was pretty invisible too.  It is becoming harder and harder the follow this team through the season and playoffs, with them sputtering to the same end result.  The players deserve the share here, as they didn't show any intensity for any 2 consecutive periods this postseason.

This may be an emotional reaction, but at this point, I'm thinking the core needs to just be blown up and rebuilt.  They just aren't getting anywhere save one trip to the Conference Finals with this group.

4/30/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Yep, that "clown" would be me.  It was a prediction and lots of people make them.  Thank you for the name calling.
 I'll be among those to admit it was premature, and the Sharks play at the end of the regular season was not worthy of a trip to the playoffs at all.  They simply did not play hockey, they skated around and tried to look like they were playing hockey.  It wasn't just Hiller who beat the Sharks, it was the entire Ducks team, Ryan, Ebbett, Wisnewski (sp) and all the rest.  In fact, it wasn't my prediction that (jinxed) killed the Sharks, it was the Sharks themselves.  They just didn't want it (well perhaps with the exception of Joe Thornton) enough, and the Ducks did.

I remember an ESPN power ranking poll done in early January.  They ranked the Sharks as #1 but in their explanation it read, "The only thing that can stop the Sharks now are the playoffs." 
Deep down I knew how true that was.  Even when I read it months ago.

4/30/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

jevinusmc wrote:

Thank the clown who wrote the article back in December that the Sharks were "hands down" going to win the Stanley Cup.  jinx.  As a Wings fan, I know how it feels to be a one seed and get knocked off by an 8 seed, in fact I think Anahiem got us about 5 years ago.  The playoffs are impossible to predict in hockey, I just hope my Wings can take care of the business that the Sharks couldn't. 

Funny, you know the sharks have twice been the #8 team that knocked off the #1.  One of them was your Red-Wings.  Featuring a very young Chris Osgood.  Now we got a taste of our own medicine.

4/30/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

CalBoomer wrote:
Sharks are well on their way to becoming  the Atlanta Braves of the NHL. Except that they're not that good, not having lost the equivalent of a World Series yet, nor at least having won one for that matter.

I thought about that.  But here is the difference...  The Braves actually WON once.  Something the Sharks haven't done.  Plus, as easy as it is to get in the MLB playoffs nowdays, the NHL's is even easier.  And it is just a different animal.  In the past, the Sharks have often made it to the round of 8.  Which is where the Braves have often started.  So it is really a different ball of wax altogether.

4/30/09   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

keppieboy wrote:
 It proves that anything can happen in the playoffs
(Edited by ML31)

It proves that the NHL regular season is the biggest waste of time and money in all of sport.

4/30/09   |   bigmxpres

Scott wrote:
Unfortunately, I can answer that question for you.  My Mavericks were the #1 seed and the defending Western Conference champions in 2007 when they were completely dismantled in 6 games by the 8th seeded Golden State Warriors. 

I do think there is something to be said about a team running into a hot goalie.  More so then any sport, a single player, especially a goalie, can have a direct impact on what happens in not only a game, but the whole series.  A hot goalie can carry a team much farther in the NHL playoffs then any other sport
(Edited by bigmxpres)

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that...The Warriors did get hot in that series.  And definitely agree on the hot goaltender bit....I am die-hard Sabres fan.  If not for D. Hasek in the late 90's, Buffalo would never have had the chance to get screwed in the finals when Brett Hull's skate was in the crease.  S***...10 years ago and I'm still Pi***d about that!!!!!!

4/29/09   |   Raider_Dave   |   47 respect

Since Valentine's Day, the Sharks were 18-16-2.  Hardly a world beater.  They had an awesome start to the season, but once teams began to figure them out, they were just another team.

4/28/09   |   Wolfie75   |   68 respect

This goes to show you does not matter if a team has the best record during the season, post season is a new atmosphere.   You may have a repeat of last year's S.C. finals.  Detroit vs Pittsburgh, I don't see Boston passing Pittsburgh.  Penguins got way too much fire power, defense and goal tending that I would bank on, and I am a Ranger fan saying this.

4/28/09   |   jasbryant

As Nelson would say... HaHaaaaa!!!!!! San Jose, you're paying for the sins of the bastard Brian Marchment, who cost Dallas it's first cup in 1998 by cheapshotting Joe Nieuwendyk in the first round. Serves you right. I hope you never win one!!

4/28/09   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

kteacher wrote:
I was so hoping the Sharks would beat the Ducks (I can't stand them), but can't say I was sad to see Roenick and Blake not move on to the second round. Hopefully the Red wings solve the mystery of Hiller and I don't have to see the Ducks advance past the 3rd round.

Funny thing, on a Kings fan web site a question was asked about what is worse--------!. Continually being ranked high going into the play offs (Sharks) and losing early or 2. Rooting for a team who hasn't made it to the play offs in 7 years? Well both teams have to stomach watching the OC team move on. (yuck)

When will this tyranny END!

4/28/09   |   azcardsfan   |   4 respect

Welcome to our world in Boston the main reason we shipped Jumbo joe, doesn't play with fire, and you need that in playoffs.

4/28/09   |   Raider_Dave   |   47 respect

I think either Thornton or Marleau get moved this offseason.  Marleau is the Captain and has a no-trade clause, but he needs to take his share of the blame as he was pretty invisible too.  It is becoming harder and harder the follow this team through the season and playoffs, with them sputtering to the same end result.  The players deserve the share here, as they didn't show any intensity for any 2 consecutive periods this postseason.

4/28/09   |   billywa   |   658 respect

 It still sickens me that my beloved Bruins essentially gave away Joe Thornton for next to nothing, but save for one game in this series and his token fight last night, big Joe just didn't exactly show for the playoffs...again!  His mellow thing is great, but sooner or later, he's gonna have to learn to get fierce come April. Until then, the Sharks aren't going to get too far in the playoffs...

4/28/09   |   gobigblue1960   |   4802 respect

(Edited by Raider_Dave)

The Wings were #1 in 1994, and lost to the Sharks.The also were eliminated as the #1 seed bu the Oilers in 2006, when Edmonton got to the finals vs. Carolina. The Wings had a lot of rest, i hope not to much. They are the better team, and should win in 6 games. I like the "Hawks in 6 over Vancouver, setting up a Detroit-Chicago Western final.Go Wings!!

4/28/09   |   Debi_L   |   11287 respect

jevinusmc wrote:

Thank the clown who wrote the article back in December that the Sharks were "hands down" going to win the Stanley Cup.  jinx.  As a Wings fan, I know how it feels to be a one seed and get knocked off by an 8 seed, in fact I think Anahiem got us about 5 years ago.  The playoffs are impossible to predict in hockey, I just hope my Wings can take care of the business that the Sharks couldn't. 

Yep, that "clown" would be me.  It was a prediction and lots of people make them.  Thank you for the name calling.
 I'll be among those to admit it was premature, and the Sharks play at the end of the regular season was not worthy of a trip to the playoffs at all.  They simply did not play hockey, they skated around and tried to look like they were playing hockey.  It wasn't just Hiller who beat the Sharks, it was the entire Ducks team, Ryan, Ebbett, Wisnewski (sp) and all the rest.  In fact, it wasn't my prediction that (jinxed) killed the Sharks, it was the Sharks themselves.  They just didn't want it (well perhaps with the exception of Joe Thornton) enough, and the Ducks did.

4/28/09   |   jevinusmc   |   35 respect

Thank the clown who wrote the article back in December that the Sharks were "hands down" going to win the Stanley Cup.  jinx.  As a Wings fan, I know how it feels to be a one seed and get knocked off by an 8 seed, in fact I think Anahiem got us about 5 years ago.  The playoffs are impossible to predict in hockey, I just hope my Wings can take care of the business that the Sharks couldn't. 

4/28/09   |   CalBoomer   |   43 respect

Sharks are well on their way to becoming  the Atlanta Braves of the NHL. Except that they're not that good, not having lost the equivalent of a World Series yet, nor at least having won one for that matter.

4/28/09   |   Scott   |   49447 respect

bigmxpres wrote:
That's why the Stanley Cup playoffs are SOOO much better than any other playoffs out there....at any time, any team can win without someone being super shocked that it happened.  Compare to the boring NBA whose #1 seeds have already advanced....When was the last time an 8 beat a 1 there? Was it the Nuggets shocker back in..I think 94?
(Edited by Scott)

Unfortunately, I can answer that question for you.  My Mavericks were the #1 seed and the defending Western Conference champions in 2007 when they were completely dismantled in 6 games by the 8th seeded Golden State Warriors. 

I do think there is something to be said about a team running into a hot goalie.  More so then any sport, a single player, especially a goalie, can have a direct impact on what happens in not only a game, but the whole series.  A hot goalie can carry a team much farther in the NHL playoffs then any other sport

4/28/09   |   kteacher   |   33985 respect

I was so hoping the Sharks would beat the Ducks (I can't stand them), but can't say I was sad to see Roenick and Blake not move on to the second round. Hopefully the Red wings solve the mystery of Hiller and I don't have to see the Ducks advance past the 3rd round.

Funny thing, on a Kings fan web site a question was asked about what is worse--------!. Continually being ranked high going into the play offs (Sharks) and losing early or 2. Rooting for a team who hasn't made it to the play offs in 7 years? Well both teams have to stomach watching the OC team move on. (yuck)

4/28/09   |   bigmxpres

That's why the Stanley Cup playoffs are SOOO much better than any other playoffs out there....at any time, any team can win without someone being super shocked that it happened.  Compare to the boring NBA whose #1 seeds have already advanced....When was the last time an 8 beat a 1 there? Was it the Nuggets shocker back in..I think 94?

4/28/09   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

 It proves that anything can happen in the playoffs