Stacy Dales Left ESPN Over Preferential And Possibly Sexist Treatment
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Doesn't Stacy Dales Deserve 1st Class Treatment Like Erin Andrews?

2/14/09 in Media   |   elevenbravo138again   |   1155 respect

As fans of college ESPN basketball analyst and college football sideline reporter Stacy Dales [formerly Dales-Schuman] may already know, she has recently left ESPN over a "travel provision" in her contract.  What has come out since then is that while traveling with colleagues like Brad Nessler, Bob Griese and Paul McGuire, they were whisked away to 1st class, while the 6-foot tall former OU, two-time All-American was seated in coach. Now it is apparent that this is in part due to the difference in status between Analyst, Play-by-Play and Sideline Reporters, not to mention that ESPN is notoriously cheap, which in the past has cost them much of their top tier, on-air talent.

While this is not the quite the obvious Civil Rights/Women's Rights issue that some may try to make it out to be, most of ESPN's sideline reporters fly Coach unless they pay or it themselves, or (like Doug Gottlieb) use accrued miles to upgrade to 1st Class.  According to Deadspin this is a portion of an internal email memo: 
 
[Dales]Refused to sign her contract, even though ESPN management repeatedly kept re-offering her a chance to sign. Rumor is she had trouble dealing with the travel stipulations of flying coach; while she watched many of her talent colleagues pile into first class."  

The place where this whole thing smells just a bit is that Erin Andrews, flew first class — also female, a sideline reporter. Hmm so what's the difference??  Could it be that Ms. Andrews is the defending two-time Playboy’s Sexiest Sportscaster?!?!?

Perhaps that's not the reason, but if there is another explanation for the apparent "sideline reporters fly coach, unless they are judged to be blazing hot by a leading men's magazine" double standard I'd like to hear it.  Hey I bet magazines like Smooth, King and
Black Men would pick Lisa Salters over any of those lanky blonds, so can a sister get an upgrade? I am with the many who feel that if all sideline reporters were replaced by cardboard cut-outs few would notice, with a handful of exceptions. However, this is either, as many believe, a tempest in a teapot or perhaps indicates a lack of respect for how fans who do want to hear from the best available talent rather than the prettiest.


Source Confirms Stacey Dales Quit ESPN Because She Wouldn't Fly Coach [Deadspin]
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11/18/09   |   elevenbravo138again   |   1155 respect

Pat wrote:
Then I guess Stacy Dales is a liar. I only go by what I see and what I read.

You don't think ESPN gives Erin Andrews preferential treatment? That's insane.

Let's be honest... they'd be crazy NOT to. The money that they can make off of her image is ridiculous. Do I agree with them giving her preferential treatment? No, not necessarily. But is it a shrewd business move? Without a doubt.

Well said.

2/15/09   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

sprtsfn08 wrote:
You've got no idea what you're talking about.  Mother Ship flies E.A. coach.  She only upgrades to 1st class on her dime.  Plus insiders say she has on more than one occasion given up her 1st class upgrade to soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Get it right or get out of the way and shut your yap.

Then I guess Stacy Dales is a liar. I only go by what I see and what I read.

You don't think ESPN gives Erin Andrews preferential treatment? That's insane.

Let's be honest... they'd be crazy NOT to. The money that they can make off of her image is ridiculous. Do I agree with them giving her preferential treatment? No, not necessarily. But is it a shrewd business move? Without a doubt.

2/15/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

sprtsfn08 wrote:
You've got no idea what you're talking about.  Mother Ship flies E.A. coach.  She only upgrades to 1st class on her dime.  Plus insiders say she has on more than one occasion given up her 1st class upgrade to soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Get it right or get out of the way and shut your yap.

hmmmm..and you would know this how?...

2/15/09   |   sprtsfn08

Pat wrote:
There's no doubt in my mind that there is preferential treatment. On one hand, ESPN probably makes more money off of Erin Andrews, so in a way, I suppose it's fair. But since at least an appearance of fairness need to be upheld, there's no way the WWL could really justify this.

And as Scott says, Dales is as good as anyone.
(Edited by sprtsfn08)

You've got no idea what you're talking about.  Mother Ship flies E.A. coach.  She only upgrades to 1st class on her dime.  Plus insiders say she has on more than one occasion given up her 1st class upgrade to soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Get it right or get out of the way and shut your yap.

2/15/09   |   snbslugger

kfbrich wrote:
Stacey Dales is divorced.  And she can hit a 3 from the corner.
What does this mean?  She's hungry for a good man she can abuse on the court.
Ummmm...yeah.  I'd take that.  How about you?

There's something particularly arousing about getting destroyed on the basketball court by a six foot smoking hot blonde and former college hoops great.

2/15/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

wrote:
She has t earn it. Erin Andrews knows how to work the system. That's something Stacey will need to learn how to do

What does that mean?...it sounds like you are suggesting she should demean herself to get what she has rightfully EARNED through hard work...

2/15/09   |  

She has t earn it. Erin Andrews knows how to work the system. That's something Stacey will need to learn how to do

2/15/09   |   kfbrich

Stacey Dales is divorced.  And she can hit a 3 from the corner.
What does this mean?  She's hungry for a good man she can abuse on the court.
Ummmm...yeah.  I'd take that.  How about you?

2/14/09   |   billywa   |   658 respect

2/14/09   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

MarkTheShark wrote:
So he kept that a secret to everyone but me........Only saw the back of her head but I believe that was Andrews in the evidence he sent me. Hey, we all want to be CF.

I will need to evaluate this evidence before I come to a final conclusion.

2/14/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

Pat wrote:
Ummm... I could be wrong, but to me, it seems like "lust fest between CriticalFanatic and Erin Andrews" almost insinuates that it is a mutual thing. I know that's not what you meant, but just to clarify, CF is a huge fan of Erin Andrews. There is no confirmation whatsoever that the reverse is true.

So he kept that a secret to everyone but me........Only saw the back of her head but I believe that was Andrews in the evidence he sent me. Hey, we all want to be CF.

2/14/09   |   ceciyang7

snbslugger wrote:
Stacey Dales is hot and a damn fine college hoops player in her day.  She's also a better analyst than Erin Andrews. 

Then again I think first class is a waste of money so unless it's on the company dime, I'm fine flying coach.  All First Class means is if the plane goes down, you die in a more comfortable chair.

stacey is sooo hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/14/09   |   gobigblue1960   |   4802 respect

Come on guys, ESPN makes a ton of money, there is no reason for the whole crew to not be sent first class.
They could probably trade seats for advertising, the old barter system. If Erin flys 1st class, then so to should Stacey Dales.

2/14/09   |   Damondogg31   |   4 respect

Stacy can post me up anytime.   

2/14/09   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect

MarkTheShark wrote:
PREACH> Longtime Q'ers know about the storied lust fest between CriticalFanatic and Erin Andrews. I've LONG (about four years now) since preferred Stacy Dales. Former athlete that is tall, cute and informative. She's just dang yummy.

I'm a Dales fan as well. Andrews has let the spotlight get to her head. Actually, i don't know what I'm talking talking about, but still, Dales is real good in the studio if you know what I mean.

/By which i mean she's a good analyst.

2/14/09   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

MarkTheShark wrote:
PREACH> Longtime Q'ers know about the storied lust fest between CriticalFanatic and Erin Andrews. I've LONG (about four years now) since preferred Stacy Dales. Former athlete that is tall, cute and informative. She's just dang yummy.

Ummm... I could be wrong, but to me, it seems like "lust fest between CriticalFanatic and Erin Andrews" almost insinuates that it is a mutual thing. I know that's not what you meant, but just to clarify, CF is a huge fan of Erin Andrews. There is no confirmation whatsoever that the reverse is true.

2/14/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

PREACH> Longtime Q'ers know about the storied lust fest between CriticalFanatic and Erin Andrews. I've LONG (about four years now) since preferred Stacy Dales. Former athlete that is tall, cute and informative. She's just dang yummy.

2/14/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4201 respect

She's hot, so of course she deserves 1st class treatment.

/even more sexist

2/14/09   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

When I saw Dales in person at the OSU/MICH Game...Smokin hott man, smokin hott!

2/14/09   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

There's no doubt in my mind that there is preferential treatment. On one hand, ESPN probably makes more money off of Erin Andrews, so in a way, I suppose it's fair. But since at least an appearance of fairness need to be upheld, there's no way the WWL could really justify this.

And as Scott says, Dales is as good as anyone.

2/14/09   |   snbslugger

Stacey Dales is hot and a damn fine college hoops player in her day.  She's also a better analyst than Erin Andrews. 

Then again I think first class is a waste of money so unless it's on the company dime, I'm fine flying coach.  All First Class means is if the plane goes down, you die in a more comfortable chair.