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12/9/07
Steelers vs Patriots: NFL Week 14 Picks and Live Thread

Big week for actual playoff positioning and an even bigger week for fantasy football playoffs. Good luck to you in the latter. Then of course, there's that big game in New England. Can the Patriots undefeated season continue?

Here's my week 14 predictions to get us started today. Feel free to share your picks and Q up today's NFL action below.

Patriots 31, Steelers 28
I think this will be a great back and forth game with several lead changes and ties, but ultimately the Pats get it done. If the game was in Pittsburgh, I might be compelled to pick the upset. They're precisely the type of physical, blitzing team best suited to beat New England. I say it comes down to one more Steeler turnover than they can afford and another late Patriots touchdown. Can't wait to watch.

Bills 17, Dolphins 13
Bengals 38, Rams 24
Cowboys 35, Lions 17
Packers 23, Raiders 20
Texans 24, Bucs 17
Jaguars 20, Panthers 10
Eagles 27, Giants 24
Chargers 24, Titans 16
Vikings 24, 49ers 10
Cardinals 24, Seahawks 23
Broncos 21, Chiefs 14
Jets 16, Browns 14
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Got the Lions/Cowboys and the Oakland/Green Bay dud early, then obviously Pit/NE late.

 

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Bills big over the crappy Phins

Bengals over Rams big

Cowboys over Lions big

Packers over Raiders big

Tampa over Houston

Jaguars flatten Panthers

Giants beat Eagles in a good one

Chargers over Titans

Vikings big over San Fran

Seattle over Arizona close

Denver over KC close

Browns over Jets

UPSET Steelers over Patriots close

Colts over Ravens

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I don't think that the Bills/Dolphins game is going to be the shootout that you predict.
 
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My pick:

Patriots 41, Steelers 17 ... the rest of the games don't matter to me all that much. But if the Pats win and the Ravens handle the Colts, the Patriots clinch the #1 seed.
 
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Pat wrote:
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Patriots 41, Steelers 17 ... the rest of the games don't matter to me all that much. But if the Pats win and the Ravens handle the Colts, the Patriots clinch the #1 seed.
41-17?  I think that's a bit of a stretch, this game will be A LOT closer than that.  I don't see the Pats winning by more than 9.
 
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(Edited 12/09/07 1:09PM by MrNFL)

Eagles already on the board, McNabb to Westbrook.

 

Bills already a TD on Miami, let the slaughter begin...

 
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MrNFL wrote:
41-17?  I think that's a bit of a stretch, this game will be A LOT closer than that.  I don't see the Pats winning by more than 9.
That's fine. A lot of people might agree with you. But a lot of people think very highly of this Steelers team. And I'm still wondering why. Remind me...who have they beaten?

Beuller? ... Beuller? ... Beuller?
 
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MrNFL wrote:

Eagles already on the board, McNabb to Westbrook.

 

Bills already a TD on Miami, let the slaughter begin...

The TD was set up on a muffed punt by Ted Ginn. Way to pick 'em Dolphins.
 
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Pat wrote:
That's fine. A lot of people might agree with you. But a lot of people think very highly of this Steelers team. And I'm still wondering why. Remind me...who have they beaten?

Beuller? ... Beuller? ... Beuller?

Honestly, Pittsburgh IMO is the 4th best team in the AFC, but they match up fairly well, and teams don't go unbeaten.  Watching the Patriots this year is like watching someone play Tecmo Super Bowl.  They flatten the first 10 or so opponants, then play a few close and lose one, and then go back to flattening people.  I think the flattening resumes next week.

 

I just think 41-17 is a pretty big stretch, considering the Pats have almost lost to the Eagles and Ravens.  The Steelers are very similar to the Ravens, except twice as good.

 
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I'm going to go ahead and say that these black Lions jerseys are some of my favorite jerseys in the league. In fact, the Lions have excellent jerseys across the board, and always have.
 
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MrNFL wrote:

Honestly, Pittsburgh IMO is the 4th best team in the AFC, but they match up fairly well, and teams don't go unbeaten.  Watching the Patriots this year is like watching someone play Tecmo Super Bowl.  They flatten the first 10 or so opponants, then play a few close and lose one, and then go back to flattening people.  I think the flattening resumes next week.

 

I just think 41-17 is a pretty big stretch, considering the Pats have almost lost to the Eagles and Ravens.  The Steelers are very similar to the Ravens, except twice as good.

Pittsburgh might be the 4th best team in the AFC. But the Patriots are THE best team in the NFL. And those close games were the wakeup call that they needed. They won't let the Steelers sneak up on them. They will be ruthless today, and Big Ben will more than likely leave the field in tears.
 
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Pat wrote:
Pittsburgh might be the 4th best team in the AFC. But the Patriots are THE best team in the NFL. And those close games were the wakeup call that they needed. They won't let the Steelers sneak up on them. They will be ruthless today, and Big Ben will more than likely leave the field in tears.

Indeed the Patriots are the best, but everybody loses one.


We'll see, I think we're going to have a very close and very entertaining game.

 


TD Houston, Rosenfels to Andre Johnson

 
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MrNFL wrote:

Indeed the Patriots are the best, but everybody loses one.


We'll see, I think we're going to have a very close and very entertaining game.

 


TD Houston, Rosenfels to Andre Johnson

The Dolphins never lost. And records were made to be broken.

And wow...the Lions are working the Cowboys right now...I'm loving it.
 
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Pat wrote:
The Dolphins never lost. And records were made to be broken.

And wow...the Lions are working the Cowboys right now...I'm loving it.

I've been saying it since week 3 or 4, the Patriots won't go 16-0.  It won't happen, either they lose this week, or they'll lose when resting some people against the Giants.

 

Titans stall, FG.  Bengals get a TD, Rudi run.

 
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MrNFL wrote:

I've been saying it since week 3 or 4, the Patriots won't go 16-0.  It won't happen, either they lose this week, or they'll lose when resting some people against the Giants.

 

Titans stall, FG.  Bengals get a TD, Rudi run.

I've said it since weeek 3 or 4 as well...they WILL go 16-0. So far, your time is running out, and my prediction is only becoming more and more correct every week.
 
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Wow, the Lions sure fell apart at the goalline.  Still, with the FG, up 10-0 over Dallas.  Who knew?

 

Bills another TD, hope you had Robert Royal on your fantasy team.

 
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Pat wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and say that these black Lions jerseys are some of my favorite jerseys in the league. In fact, the Lions have excellent jerseys across the board, and always have.
I like the Lions old school, full silver helmet, solid blue jersey they used to wear occasionally.
 
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
I like the Lions old school, full silver helmet, solid blue jersey they used to wear occasionally.
They wore that on Thanksgving a few years back against the Pats, who wore their old school red jerseys with the Pat Patriot logo...one of the best Uni games in recent history.
 
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Fumble, Bills score another TD.


The slaughter continues.

 
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TD Tampa, Earnest Graham ties the game.


Miami matches quickly somehow, Gado TD run.

 

TD Packers, Ryan Grant and the Lambeau Leap.

 

FG Bengals, they lead 10-0,

 

 

 
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FG Giants.

 

Merriman just injured Vince Young on a play where Young handed it off. 

 
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Punt Return TD for Green Bay.

 
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TD Cowboys!


This should be a fun second half.

 
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14-7 Pack at the half after some embarrassing two minute defense by Green Bay.

Meanwhile, the Dolphins have once again turned the ball over.  How pathetic.
 
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You'd think Martz is the Lions head coach, they always show him on the sideline twice as often as they show Marinelli.

 
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gearhead wrote:
Everyone take a look at the QB stats of the Bucs-Texans game and see if they make sense to you.
first of all, I don't even need to look at the numbers. The names don't make any sense.

Where has the NFL QB gone? We've got Rosenfels vs a McCown.
 
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Everyone take a look at the QB stats of the Bucs-Texans game and see if they make sense to you.
Rosenfels has actually been alright this year when he's played for Schaub.  McCown was decent last week too.  Both have pretty good teams' around them, and they aren't THAT bad.
 
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first of all, I don't even need to look at the numbers. The names don't make any sense.

Where has the NFL QB gone? We've got Rosenfels vs a McCown.
The NFL QB went to college. This coming draft class might be a legendary one.
 
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Cullen Jenkins, you are lucky it's 31-7 and not 10-7, you moron. Luckily, Oakland still can't stop the run.
 
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38-7 Packers after a 46 yard pass to Donald Lee. I didn't see it, so I don't know if that's in "running up the score" territory.
 
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38-7 Packers after a 46 yard pass to Donald Lee. I didn't see it, so I don't know if that's in "running up the score" territory.
It's not.  Only when the Patriots do it...
 
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As Dallas scores and leads by 1.
 
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Hanson misses from 35 yards out. Chances that comes back and haunts the Lions: 125%
I didn't see the Lions game, so I have to say that coming here and finding out that Jason flipping Hanson missed a 35 yard FG kind of sucks.  That bastard.
 
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Ben is going to wish he had that throw back. 3 points still a solid start.
Ben is going to wish he had a lot of throws back today.

Nice return by Chad Jackson...I hope the Steelers enjoy their few minutes in the lead, because it's all downhill for them from here. Patriots WR's dropped some passes in the first series, and that's not going to happen again.
 
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I loved seeing Brady let Anthony Smith know who's STILL the best offense in the league...against ANY defense.
That was pretty cool. Smith deserves all the yapping heading his way.
 
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It's still early, and the Steelers have a couple more long drives like their opening one...that Patriots defense will tire out real fast.

Hahaha. I'm glad you're here. This could be pretty fun. A few things you might want to keep in mind thus far:

  • The Patriots offense will AT LEAST match those offensive drives
  • Maroney is looking considerably better than Willie Parker so far

Those two, especially Maroney stepping up, will prove to be huge in this game.
 
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*sigh* After all the jawing all week, I knew the leader would be insufferable as quickly as humanly possible.
 
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Yikes...  Seriously, Moss is the MVP this year.  I really don't think there's any need for a discussion at this point.  When Moss is limited the Patriots are very beatable, when he is unleashed they are unbeatable.  Its pretty much that simple.
 
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*sigh* After all the jawing all week, I knew the leader would be insufferable as quickly as humanly possible.
Before you say anything Pat, I live in Western PA. I know how bad the Steelers fans are going to be if they win.
 
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In other news, the Chiefs, Cardinals, and Niners are being taken out to the woodshed early.
Somehow, Purple Jesus only has 7 yards on 4 carries.
 
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TD Steelers, Davenport from Roethlisberger.  Great catch
 
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Wow= Pittsburgh just scored...... and Thank you Jesus for letting Cowboys win! Amen!
 
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Before you say anything Pat, I live in Western PA. I know how bad the Steelers fans are going to be if they win.
Honestly, I wouldn't be as much of an a-hole if it weren't for the constant trash-talking from Patriots haters. I understand that people don't like them...that's fine. But to try to discredit what they've done, and to try to say I'M the idiot for predicting they win...that's just crossing the line into blatant stupidity, and I just have no respect for that.
 
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Yikes...  Seriously, Moss is the MVP this year.  I really don't think there's any need for a discussion at this point.  When Moss is limited the Patriots are very beatable, when he is unleashed they are unbeatable.  Its pretty much that simple.
Thank you. I think it's pretty unfortunate he's be overlooked with all credit to Tom Brady. Clearly Brady is great, but Moss's presence is the bigger factor.
 
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Somehow, Purple Jesus only has 7 yards on 4 carries.
I'm really glad I earned a bye this week in my fantasy league.
 
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Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play!
 
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It's stupid things like THAT that cost you games.  Pittsburgh had a huge opportunity on this next drive, and they blow a punt and give the Pats the ball back right in FG range.
 
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Well that was stupid. He should have his junk cut off for touching the football.
 
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Pat wrote:
Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play!
they tried to be cute?
 
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Pat wrote:
Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play!
That looked more like an unlucky bounce to me.
 
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
they tried to be cute?
Yes. Clearly, he was trying to catch it between his legs.
 
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Missed FG.  Pittsburgh got lucky that punt mistake didn't cost them points.
 
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Must take advantage of this Pittsburgh.  Go down and score a TD.

 
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I'm going to start drinking now.
 
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Wow, Peterson = 6 carries, -2 yards.  Yikes!

 

84 yd run by Taylor, TD Vikes.  And the Broncos score, 21-7.

 
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Looks like it's short. If Tomlin has any cajones, he'll go for it.
 
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Pat wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't be as much of an a-hole if it weren't for the constant trash-talking from Patriots haters. I understand that people don't like them...that's fine. But to try to discredit what they've done, and to try to say I'M the idiot for predicting they win...that's just crossing the line into blatant stupidity, and I just have no respect for that.
I can see that. I mean, I don't like the Boston teams, but I would like to think I'm objective enough to understand how good they are and how well they are run (except the Celtics, since they basically took advantage of McHale's stupidity). I can see why people are picking the Steelers, but to say it's definite is pretty arrogant and short-sighted, on both sides of the equation.
 
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Jon wrote:
I'm going to start drinking now.
Godspeed, Jon.
 
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Yeah! Comeback time!
 
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One guy who hasn't been talked about enough is Mike Vrabel, who's been a beast.  (As I was typing this, Nantz said the same)

 
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Ben shouldn't have slid, if he stays up he gets the first. 
 
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Ben shouldn't have slid, if he stays up he gets the first. 
Easy to say when you're not staring down Rodney Harrison though. lol
 
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That was headfirst? I always thought "headfirst" was more of a diving thing. That looked like more of a fetal position sort of slide...
 
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MrNFL wrote:
Boy, I shouldn't have picked Arizona to beat that spread, Seattle now leads 24-0.
They sure dont look like a team desperate to make the playoffs!
 
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Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed?
 
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Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed?
Yeah...I think he said "FUN!"
 
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Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed?
I'm guessing he said something that rhymes with "duck"?
 
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Yeah...I think he said "FUN!"

or was it FUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDGGGEEEEE

 

 

( quick what movie is that from)

 
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Because I haven't said anything yet, NFC North champions! Wooooo!
 
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Is Peterson hurt? Chester Taylor just took it to the house from 84-out. I'm watching the game during Pats-Stillers commercials and they haven't said anything.
 
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Because I haven't said anything yet, NFC North champions! Wooooo!

Congrats to the old man!!! ( Favre that is!) Now maybe he will retire!!!

 
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Is Brady a little rattled?
 
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I really wonder why the Pats don't just throw to Moss on 50% of the plays.
 
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Is Brady a little rattled?
nevermind!
 
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I really wonder why the Pats don't just throw to Moss on 50% of the plays.
Remember when Tice had the Moss Ratio or whatever they called it?  Ahh... good times for anyone who wasn't a Vikings fan.
 
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