Steelers vs Patriots: NFL Week 14 Picks and Live Thread | NFL | Pittsburgh Steelers

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Got the Lions/Cowboys and the Oakland/Green Bay dud early, then obviously Pit/NE late.

Picks

Bills big over the crappy Phins

Bengals over Rams big

Cowboys over Lions big

Packers over Raiders big

Tampa over Houston

Jaguars flatten Panthers

Giants beat Eagles in a good one

Chargers over Titans

Vikings big over San Fran

Seattle over Arizona close

Denver over KC close

Browns over Jets

UPSET Steelers over Patriots close

Colts over Ravens

UPSET Falcons over Saints

12/9/07

0	I don't think that the Bills/Dolphins game is going to be the shootout that you predict.

12/9/07

1	My pick: Patriots 41, Steelers 17 ... the rest of the games don't matter to me all that much. But if the Pats win and the Ravens handle the Colts, the Patriots clinch the #1 seed.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: My pick: Patriots 41, Steelers 17 ... the rest of the games don't matter to me all that much. But if the Pats win and the Ravens handle the Colts, the Patriots clinch the #1 seed. 41-17? I think that's a bit of a stretch, this game will be A LOT closer than that. I don't see the Pats winning by more than 9.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by MrNFL) Eagles already on the board, McNabb to Westbrook. Bills already a TD on Miami, let the slaughter begin...

12/9/07

0	Nick Folk shanks a long one, Lions take over.

12/9/07

1	MrNFL wrote: 41-17? I think that's a bit of a stretch, this game will be A LOT closer than that. I don't see the Pats winning by more than 9. That's fine. A lot of people might agree with you. But a lot of people think very highly of this Steelers team. And I'm still wondering why. Remind me...who have they beaten? Beuller? ... Beuller? ... Beuller?

12/9/07

0	good thing feeley didnt start, we'd be down 7-0 already

12/9/07

0	The Packers have realized very early that Oakland can not stop the run at all.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: Eagles already on the board, McNabb to Westbrook. Bills already a TD on Miami, let the slaughter begin... The TD was set up on a muffed punt by Ted Ginn. Way to pick 'em Dolphins.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

That's fine. A lot of people might agree with you. But a lot of people think very highly of this Steelers team. And I'm still wondering why. Remind me...who have they beaten?

Beuller? ... Beuller? ... Beuller?

Honestly, Pittsburgh IMO is the 4th best team in the AFC, but they match up fairly well, and teams don't go unbeaten. Watching the Patriots this year is like watching someone play Tecmo Super Bowl. They flatten the first 10 or so opponants, then play a few close and lose one, and then go back to flattening people. I think the flattening resumes next week.

I just think 41-17 is a pretty big stretch, considering the Pats have almost lost to the Eagles and Ravens. The Steelers are very similar to the Ravens, except twice as good.

12/9/07

0	I'm going to go ahead and say that these black Lions jerseys are some of my favorite jerseys in the league. In fact, the Lions have excellent jerseys across the board, and always have.

12/9/07

0	Pack turn it over on downs. Eh.

12/9/07

0	TD Lions, big run by a big man (Duckett)

12/9/07

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MrNFL wrote:

Honestly, Pittsburgh IMO is the 4th best team in the AFC, but they match up fairly well, and teams don't go unbeaten. Watching the Patriots this year is like watching someone play Tecmo Super Bowl. They flatten the first 10 or so opponants, then play a few close and lose one, and then go back to flattening people. I think the flattening resumes next week.

I just think 41-17 is a pretty big stretch, considering the Pats have almost lost to the Eagles and Ravens. The Steelers are very similar to the Ravens, except twice as good.

Pittsburgh might be the 4th best team in the AFC. But the Patriots are THE best team in the NFL. And those close games were the wakeup call that they needed. They won't let the Steelers sneak up on them. They will be ruthless today, and Big Ben will more than likely leave the field in tears.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

Pittsburgh might be the 4th best team in the AFC. But the Patriots are THE best team in the NFL. And those close games were the wakeup call that they needed. They won't let the Steelers sneak up on them. They will be ruthless today, and Big Ben will more than likely leave the field in tears.

Indeed the Patriots are the best, but everybody loses one.

We'll see, I think we're going to have a very close and very entertaining game.

TD Houston, Rosenfels to Andre Johnson

12/9/07

0	Rivers just threw a big pick, that'll give the Titans a chance to score/turn it back over.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: Indeed the Patriots are the best, but everybody loses one. We'll see, I think we're going to have a very close and very entertaining game. TD Houston, Rosenfels to Andre Johnson The Dolphins never lost. And records were made to be broken. And wow...the Lions are working the Cowboys right now...I'm loving it.

12/9/07

0	Take that son of Huggy Bear!

12/9/07

0	heres the eagles i know!..2 timeout used with 7 minutes left in the first quarter

12/9/07

1	Pat wrote: The Dolphins never lost. And records were made to be broken. And wow...the Lions are working the Cowboys right now...I'm loving it. I've been saying it since week 3 or 4, the Patriots won't go 16-0. It won't happen, either they lose this week, or they'll lose when resting some people against the Giants. Titans stall, FG. Bengals get a TD, Rudi run.

12/9/07

1	MrNFL wrote: I've been saying it since week 3 or 4, the Patriots won't go 16-0. It won't happen, either they lose this week, or they'll lose when resting some people against the Giants. Titans stall, FG. Bengals get a TD, Rudi run. I've said it since weeek 3 or 4 as well...they WILL go 16-0. So far, your time is running out, and my prediction is only becoming more and more correct every week.

12/9/07

0	The Packers continue to make things hard for themselves, as Favre is picked off deep in Oakland territory. He doesn't look 100% sharp so far.

12/9/07

0	Wow, the Lions sure fell apart at the goalline. Still, with the FG, up 10-0 over Dallas. Who knew? Bills another TD, hope you had Robert Royal on your fantasy team.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by CriticalFanatic) Pat wrote: I'm going to go ahead and say that these black Lions jerseys are some of my favorite jerseys in the league. In fact, the Lions have excellent jerseys across the board, and always have. I like the Lions old school, full silver helmet, solid blue jersey they used to wear occasionally.

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: I like the Lions old school, full silver helmet, solid blue jersey they used to wear occasionally. They wore that on Thanksgving a few years back against the Pats, who wore their old school red jerseys with the Pat Patriot logo...one of the best Uni games in recent history.

12/9/07

0	Fumble, Bills score another TD. The slaughter continues.

12/9/07

0	So, Dolphins are 0-13. That was fun.

12/9/07

0	Samkon Gado!

12/9/07

0	Ryan Grant scores a 6 yard TD on a play where the Raiders only had 3 defensive backs.

12/9/07

0	TD Tampa, Earnest Graham ties the game. Miami matches quickly somehow, Gado TD run. TD Packers, Ryan Grant and the Lambeau Leap. FG Bengals, they lead 10-0,

12/9/07

0	Dallas gets on the board. Marion Barber TD run.

12/9/07

0	19 yard field goal for NY..7-3 eagles

12/9/07

0	FG Giants. Merriman just injured Vince Young on a play where Young handed it off.

12/9/07

0	Punt Return TD for Green Bay.

12/9/07

0	What has gotten into the Lions?

12/9/07

0	Wow, Bironas just missed a really easy kick. Yikes!

12/9/07

0	Cowboys really should run more no-huddle

12/9/07

0	Hell of a pass from Romo. Wow.

12/9/07

0	TD Cowboys! This should be a fun second half.

12/9/07

0	14-7 Pack at the half after some embarrassing two minute defense by Green Bay. Meanwhile, the Dolphins have once again turned the ball over. How pathetic.

12/9/07

0	did TO miss the team flight or somethin, wtf is going on i need some fantasy points from him

12/9/07

0	You'd think Martz is the Lions head coach, they always show him on the sideline twice as often as they show Marinelli.

12/9/07

0	Dolphins fumble again, but recover. That's their 6th fumble. 3 have been lost, to go with 2 picks. I thought they would win at least once this year, but now I'm not so sure. Right now they couldn't beat a CFL team.

12/9/07

0	Everyone take a look at the QB stats of the Bucs-Texans game and see if they make sense to you.

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Everyone take a look at the QB stats of the Bucs-Texans game and see if they make sense to you. first of all, I don't even need to look at the numbers. The names don't make any sense. Where has the NFL QB gone? We've got Rosenfels vs a McCown.

12/9/07

0	Speaking of beautiful quarterbackings, check out the Titans-Chargers game.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by MrNFL) gearhead wrote: Everyone take a look at the QB stats of the Bucs-Texans game and see if they make sense to you. Rosenfels has actually been alright this year when he's played for Schaub. McCown was decent last week too. Both have pretty good teams' around them, and they aren't THAT bad.

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: first of all, I don't even need to look at the numbers. The names don't make any sense. Where has the NFL QB gone? We've got Rosenfels vs a McCown. The NFL QB went to college. This coming draft class might be a legendary one.

12/9/07

0	How did Greg Jennings make that catch?

12/9/07

0	Wow, a TD was actually scored in TEN/SD. Chris Brown on the ground.

12/9/07

0	westbrook just fumbled on a screen, first time in 557 touches

12/9/07

0	Geez...Lions...wow.

12/9/07

0	reid just broke the record for farthest challenge flag thrown

12/9/07

0	Who've guessed the Packers leading scorer would be Will Blackmon today?

12/9/07

0	what a shitty call on the challenge. shoulda been eagles ball..touchdown giants

12/9/07

0	Well, I shouldn't have picked Tampa...

12/9/07

0	Cullen Jenkins, you are lucky it's 31-7 and not 10-7, you moron. Luckily, Oakland still can't stop the run.

12/9/07

5	Hanson misses from 35 yards out. Chances that comes back and haunts the Lions: 125%

12/9/07

0	Dallas is just melting down.

12/9/07

0	Huge fumble at the 1 by Witten, and huge fumble by Jacobs deep in Philly territory. Eagles ball.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by gearhead) 38-7 Packers after a 46 yard pass to Donald Lee. I didn't see it, so I don't know if that's in "running up the score" territory.

12/9/07

0	dare i say it..eagles offense getting something going. drive started around their own 5, catch by curtis, a few runs by bwest..1st and 10 at the giant 48

12/9/07

0	Houston over Tampa 28-14 final. Great start for my pick'em, just what I needed to get a game totally wrong.

12/9/07

0	in the offseason when we wanted reid to run the ball more, we didnt mean on 1st, 2nd AND 3rd down when you're losing by 3 within 4 minutes. 2 minute warning in philly

12/9/07

0	Why do I, in western PA, still have the Jags-Panthers game when it's 34-6 with under 4 minutes left?

12/9/07

0	Here's the Cowboys chance...

12/9/07

0	Philly wants a flag, but maybe they shouldn't throw it 2 yards short of the first down on 4th down.

12/9/07

ChicaQueso

2	gearhead wrote: 38-7 Packers after a 46 yard pass to Donald Lee. I didn't see it, so I don't know if that's in "running up the score" territory. It's not. Only when the Patriots do it...

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Hanson misses from 35 yards out. Chances that comes back and haunts the Lions: 125% As Dallas scores and leads by 1.

12/9/07

1	stream of expletives

12/9/07

0	Lions can't hold on, Dallas wins. SD ties it at the last second, to OT they go. Philly can't make a 57 yarder, they fall to the Giants.

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Hanson misses from 35 yards out. Chances that comes back and haunts the Lions: 125% I didn't see the Lions game, so I have to say that coming here and finding out that Jason flipping Hanson missed a 35 yard FG kind of sucks. That bastard.

12/9/07

ChicaQueso

0	gearhead wrote: stream of expletives Yeah that totally pissed me off.

12/9/07

0	Ben is going to wish he had that throw back. 3 points still a solid start.

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: Ben is going to wish he had that throw back. 3 points still a solid start. Ben is going to wish he had a lot of throws back today. Nice return by Chad Jackson...I hope the Steelers enjoy their few minutes in the lead, because it's all downhill for them from here. Patriots WR's dropped some passes in the first series, and that's not going to happen again.

12/9/07

0	Randy Moss is so good, it's not even fair.

12/9/07

0	And holy crap...Maroney just turned in one of the toughest runs I've seen in a long time.

12/9/07

0	TD!!! 7-3. And the carnage continues.

12/9/07

2	I loved seeing Brady let Anthony Smith know who's STILL the best offense in the league...against ANY defense.

12/9/07

0	It's still early, and the Steelers have a couple more long drives like their opening one...that Patriots defense will tire out real fast.

12/9/07

1	Pat wrote: I loved seeing Brady let Anthony Smith know who's STILL the best offense in the league...against ANY defense. That was pretty cool. Smith deserves all the yapping heading his way.

12/9/07

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kramer wrote:

It's still early, and the Steelers have a couple more long drives like their opening one...that Patriots defense will tire out real fast.

Hahaha. I'm glad you're here. This could be pretty fun. A few things you might want to keep in mind thus far:

The Patriots offense will AT LEAST match those offensive drives
Maroney is looking considerably better than Willie Parker so far

Those two, especially Maroney stepping up, will prove to be huge in this game.

12/9/07

0	Wow...and Maroney's effectiveness (only on 2 carries) opened it up for a beautiful play action to Randy Moss...ridiculous.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by gearhead) sigh After all the jawing all week, I knew the leader would be insufferable as quickly as humanly possible.

12/9/07

2	Yikes... Seriously, Moss is the MVP this year. I really don't think there's any need for a discussion at this point. When Moss is limited the Patriots are very beatable, when he is unleashed they are unbeatable. Its pretty much that simple.

12/9/07

1	Anthony Smith is not going to have a very fun day.

12/9/07

0	In other news, the Chiefs, Cardinals, and Niners are being taken out to the woodshed early.

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: sigh After all the jawing all week, I knew the leader would be insufferable as quickly as humanly possible. Before you say anything Pat, I live in Western PA. I know how bad the Steelers fans are going to be if they win.

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: In other news, the Chiefs, Cardinals, and Niners are being taken out to the woodshed early. Somehow, Purple Jesus only has 7 yards on 4 carries.

12/9/07

0	(Edited by MrNFL) TD Steelers, Davenport from Roethlisberger. Great catch

12/9/07

0	Wow= Pittsburgh just scored...... and Thank you Jesus for letting Cowboys win! Amen!

12/9/07

0	Great job buying time by Big Ben. How Poop beat Ellis Hobbs I have no idea though.

12/9/07

0	In other news, who was a moron and picked the under for this game? This guy...

12/9/07

0	Thankfully New England only has an average defense.

12/9/07

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gearhead wrote:

Before you say anything Pat, I live in Western PA. I know how bad the Steelers fans are going to be if they win.

Honestly, I wouldn't be as much of an a-hole if it weren't for the constant trash-talking from Patriots haters. I understand that people don't like them...that's fine. But to try to discredit what they've done, and to try to say I'M the idiot for predicting they win...that's just crossing the line into blatant stupidity, and I just have no respect for that.

12/9/07

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kantwistaye wrote:

Yikes... Seriously, Moss is the MVP this year. I really don't think there's any need for a discussion at this point. When Moss is limited the Patriots are very beatable, when he is unleashed they are unbeatable. Its pretty much that simple.

Thank you. I think it's pretty unfortunate he's be overlooked with all credit to Tom Brady. Clearly Brady is great, but Moss's presence is the bigger factor.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: Somehow, Purple Jesus only has 7 yards on 4 carries. I'm really glad I earned a bye this week in my fantasy league.

12/9/07

0	For those who care (3 people) KC just scored on Denver, Croyle to Gonzalez.

12/9/07

1	Boy, I shouldn't have picked Arizona to beat that spread, Seattle now leads 24-0.

12/9/07

0	Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play!

12/9/07

0	It's stupid things like THAT that cost you games. Pittsburgh had a huge opportunity on this next drive, and they blow a punt and give the Pats the ball back right in FG range.

12/9/07

0	Well that was stupid. He should have his junk cut off for touching the football.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play! they tried to be cute?

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: Wow...that's outstanding...the Steelers try to get cute on the punt, and it's Patriots ball. Huge play! That looked more like an unlucky bounce to me.

12/9/07

1	CriticalFanatic wrote: they tried to be cute? Yes. Clearly, he was trying to catch it between his legs.

12/9/07

0	Missed FG. Pittsburgh got lucky that punt mistake didn't cost them points.

12/9/07

0	Must take advantage of this Pittsburgh. Go down and score a TD.

12/9/07

1	I'm going to start drinking now.

12/9/07

0	Wow, Peterson = 6 carries, -2 yards. Yikes! 84 yd run by Taylor, TD Vikes. And the Broncos score, 21-7.

12/9/07

0	Looks like it's short. If Tomlin has any cajones, he'll go for it.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

Honestly, I wouldn't be as much of an a-hole if it weren't for the constant trash-talking from Patriots haters. I understand that people don't like them...that's fine. But to try to discredit what they've done, and to try to say I'M the idiot for predicting they win...that's just crossing the line into blatant stupidity, and I just have no respect for that.

I can see that. I mean, I don't like the Boston teams, but I would like to think I'm objective enough to understand how good they are and how well they are run (except the Celtics, since they basically took advantage of McHale's stupidity). I can see why people are picking the Steelers, but to say it's definite is pretty arrogant and short-sighted, on both sides of the equation.

12/9/07

0	Jon wrote: I'm going to start drinking now. Godspeed, Jon.

12/9/07

0	Yeah! Comeback time!

12/9/07

0	One guy who hasn't been talked about enough is Mike Vrabel, who's been a beast. (As I was typing this, Nantz said the same)

12/9/07

0	Ben shouldn't have slid, if he stays up he gets the first.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: Ben shouldn't have slid, if he stays up he gets the first. Easy to say when you're not staring down Rodney Harrison though. lol

12/9/07

1	That was headfirst? I always thought "headfirst" was more of a diving thing. That looked like more of a fetal position sort of slide...

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: Boy, I shouldn't have picked Arizona to beat that spread, Seattle now leads 24-0. They sure dont look like a team desperate to make the playoffs!

12/9/07

0	Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed?

12/9/07

2	jmh321 wrote: Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed? Yeah...I think he said "FUN!"

12/9/07

2	jmh321 wrote: Did ayone read Brady's lips when the FG was missed? I'm guessing he said something that rhymes with "duck"?

12/9/07

1	Pat wrote: Yeah...I think he said "FUN!" or was it FUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDGGGEEEEE ( quick what movie is that from)

12/9/07

4	Because I haven't said anything yet, NFC North champions! Wooooo!

12/9/07

0	Is Peterson hurt? Chester Taylor just took it to the house from 84-out. I'm watching the game during Pats-Stillers commercials and they haven't said anything.

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Because I haven't said anything yet, NFC North champions! Wooooo! Congrats to the old man!!! ( Favre that is!) Now maybe he will retire!!!

12/9/07

0	Is Brady a little rattled?

12/9/07

0	I really wonder why the Pats don't just throw to Moss on 50% of the plays.

12/9/07

1	jmh321 wrote: Is Brady a little rattled? nevermind!

12/9/07

2	CriticalFanatic wrote: I really wonder why the Pats don't just throw to Moss on 50% of the plays. Remember when Tice had the Moss Ratio or whatever they called it? Ahh... good times for anyone who wasn't a Vikings fan.

12/9/07

2	gearhead wrote: Because I haven't said anything yet, NFC North champions! Wooooo! Because I haven't said it yet, Rex Grossman is our quarterback!

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: I really wonder why the Pats don't just throw to Moss on 50% of the plays. Didn't they try something like that in Minnesota?

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: Because I haven't said it yet, Rex Grossman is our quarterback! Not my problem.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: Didn't they try something like that in Minnesota? yes

12/9/07

0	Ok Ok I will tell you= it was CHRISTMAS STORY!!!!! By the way, AZ scored= 27-7!

12/9/07

2	(Edited by gearhead) Trent Dilfer is hurt for San Francisco. I can't help but think that's a plus for the Niners.

12/9/07

0	kantwistaye wrote: Remember when Tice had the Moss Ratio or whatever they called it? Ahh... good times for anyone who wasn't a Vikings fan. I almost gave you a funny, because thinking about the fact that Mike Tice was a head coach in this league is hilarious.

12/9/07

1	I've always wondered why more teams don't fake the "we're just going to sit on the ball play before half" and play action with a deep ball. Worst case scenario it's an interception 40 yards down field.

12/9/07

0	CriticalFanatic wrote: I've always wondered why more teams don't fake the "we're just going to sit on the ball play before half" and play action with a deep ball. Worst case scenario it's an interception 40 yards down field. Bill Parcells used that a least 3 times when he was Coach of the Giants!!

12/9/07

1	I hate Shannon Sharpe.

12/9/07

3	MrNFL wrote: I hate Shannon Sharpe. Thats probably because theres no good reason for a horse to be an analyst.

12/9/07

3	(Edited by gearhead) MrNFL wrote: I hate Shannon Sharpe. He just called Chester Taylor "The President," right? That would make him seem intelligent, save for the fact he was wrong.

12/9/07

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When are the Titans going to come to the realization that Vince Young is NOT a good QB in this league? People love to get caught up in their record after he took over last year, but anyone who credits that to Young is insane.

He's now managed to rack up twice as many INT's as TD's. If the Titans are smart, they'll pick up whoever they can get to replace him in this QB-deep draft. Ryan, Woodson, Brohm or even Brennan could do better on this team than Young. VY10 might be better suited as a TE, if he has the hands.

12/9/07

0	For the person who obviously loves Favre and gave me the P: I would like to see him go out on a good note..... more than that, I would like to see his understudy, who looks like he has skill, take the reigns of the team and help move GB into the next era!!! I think he is going to be dynamite to watch!

12/9/07

2	jmh321 wrote: or was it FUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDGGGEEEEE ( quick what movie is that from) A CHRISTMAS STORY!

12/9/07

1	So yeah, was watching the game with friends so wasn't staying on here the whole time. Anywho, the Steelers are right there at the half. If Pittsburgh can have another opening drive like the first half, this Pats team is gonna start to panic! Now back to the game...

12/9/07

0	kramer wrote: A CHRISTMAS STORY! I already gave the answer, but for your benefit: YEAHHHHH!!!!

12/9/07

0	Wilfork just flattened Big Ben...that was beautiful.

12/9/07

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kramer wrote:

So yeah, was watching the game with friends so wasn't staying on here the whole time.

Anywho, the Steelers are right there at the half. If Pittsburgh can have another opening drive like the first half, this Pats team is gonna start to panic!

Now back to the game...

You should know by now...this Patriots team doesn't know what panic is. That's the one thing that WON'T happen, no matter what the score is.

12/9/07

0	Some dude named Shaun Hill is in for Dilfer, and went 6-7 for 45 yards and a touchdown his first drive.

12/9/07

1	MrNFL wrote: For those who care (3 people) KC just scored on Denver, Croyle to Gonzalez. Yay; I'm one of 3!

12/9/07

1	I would say that was a beautiful play...but I'm not sure if that's exactly how I would describe it.

12/9/07

2	That was the most ridiculous play I've ever seen.

12/9/07

2	is speechless

12/9/07

0	That did look impressive!

12/9/07

Lynn

2	Brady to Moss to Brady to Gaffney...love it!

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Some dude named Shaun Hill is in for Dilfer, and went 6-7 for 45 yards and a touchdown his first drive. I think Shaun Hill can be summed up by one line on his Wikipedia page: "He took his first (ed. note - only) career snaps with the Minnesota Vikings on the final two plays of the 2005 NFL season, taking a knee both times.

12/9/07

0	Jon wrote: I'm going to start drinking now. You have an hour headstart on me; but it seems as if me and my teams can't win anything as of late...

12/9/07

0	gearhead wrote: Some dude named Shaun Hill is in for Dilfer, and went 6-7 for 45 yards and a touchdown his first drive. Alright there is 5 points for my fantasy team. Woo Hoo.

12/9/07

1	I hope the Patriots remind Anthony Smith about what he said every single time they score.

12/9/07

2	Is there anyone on this earth who is surprised that Anthony Smith is being humiliated this evening?

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: I hope the Patriots remind Anthony Smith about what he said every single time they score. well I was wrong about the 58 minutes..... I hope it was not the reverse I was thinking! ( pats lose in last 2 minutes!)

12/9/07

1	What a catch by Urban! He wasn't ready for the pass so it hit him and bounced up, but he managed to find it again in the air and pulled it down. Touchdown, Cardinals! The comeback continues!

12/9/07

1	(Edited by Chief_aka_James) Lol; ya gotta love the celebration by Taylor, and then Moss pointing out the flag to him..

12/9/07

1	Jon wrote: What a catch by Urban! He wasn't ready for the pass so it hit him and bounced up, but he managed to find it again in the air and pulled it down. Touchdown, Cardinals! The comeback continues! I think you've had enough. Jon: I'LL TELL YOU WHEN I'VE HAD ENOUGH!

12/9/07

0	Onside kick recovered by Rackers!

12/9/07

0	Jon wrote: What a catch by Urban! He wasn't ready for the pass so it hit him and bounced up, but he managed to find it again in the air and pulled it down. Touchdown, Cardinals! The comeback continues! what is the new score?????

12/9/07

1	And Warner promptly gets picked off on the next play. Of course.

12/9/07

1	Jon wrote: Onside kick recovered by Rackers! Next play: interception. I love Buzzsaw football.

12/9/07

1	It's so nice to see people settle their differences like gentlemen.

12/9/07

0	Ok I missed the little fight, but what was Belicheck doing on the field???? ALl I saw was him clapping for his team?

12/9/07

1	Looks like we have a hockey game breaking out.

12/9/07

1	FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

12/9/07

1	It's gonna be pretty embarrassing for the Steelers if they lose the game AND the fight...

12/9/07

1	Any chance the Jets had of coming back probably just went with that interception.

12/9/07

1	What a BS call. The referees just called a penalty simply because the Seahawks were whining.

12/9/07

1	So... did I miss anything in the 3rd quarter, other than the apparent beat down?

12/9/07

1	kantwistaye wrote: So... did I miss anything in the 3rd quarter, other than the apparent beat down? just watch the tapes of previous games, more of the same!!!!

12/9/07

0	bounces of his own teammate

12/9/07

0	That was a huge stop. Time for a big clock-eating scoring drive.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: That was a huge stop. Time for a big clock-eating scoring drive. a great stop by the offense!!!!

12/9/07

1	I WES WELKER

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: I WES WELKER Dude has some of the quickest moving legs I've seen

12/9/07

0	kantwistaye wrote: Dude has some of the quickest moving legs I've seen My baby just said the same thing!

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: I WES WELKER I never figured you, a marine , for a man crush!!!

12/9/07

3	I just invented some new swear words. BUZZSAW FOOTBALL!

12/9/07

1	23 passes so far in this half, and only 1 running play? Tom Brady must be a system quarterback.

12/9/07

1	I love how Troy Polamalu is smiling on the sidelines...he's just glad that he doesn't have to be on the field for this debacle.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: 23 passes so far in this half, and only 1 running play? Tom Brady must be a system quarterback. that means he reads the opposing system and plays to their weaknesses right?

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: 41-17? I think that's a bit of a stretch, this game will be A LOT closer than that. I don't see the Pats winning by more than 9. What do you see now?

12/9/07

0	(Edited by MrNFL) Pat wrote: What do you see now? I see that my pick was incorrect, oh well. On to Colts/Ravens tonight. This actually is a good thing, gives the Colts a much better shot at the 2 seed.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: I see that my pick was incorrect, oh well. On to Colts/Ravens tonight. This actually is a good thing, gives the Colts a much better shot at the 2 seed. There are 6.5 minutes left in the game..... are you giving up so soon???? Dallas won in the final 18 seconds- THANK GOD and I stiiill lost IQ points on that game!

12/9/07

1	jmh321 wrote: There are 6.5 minutes left in the game..... are you giving up so soon???? Dallas won in the final 18 seconds- THANK GOD and I stiiill lost IQ points on that game! They aren't going to score 3 TD's in 5 minutes. Even if they could, they'd give up another TD.

12/9/07

0	Come on Steelers, get that TD so I can salvage a correct spread pick.

12/9/07

1	Adrian Peterson, 14 carries, 3 yards. Wow, who've thunk the 49ers D could do that?

12/9/07

1	MrNFL wrote: Adrian Peterson, 14 carries, 3 yards. Wow, who've thunk the 49ers D could do that? Chester Taylor, 8 carries, 101 yards.

12/9/07

1	Chief_aka_James wrote: Chester Taylor, 8 carries, 101 yards. Yeah, but 84 of those were on one play. 17 on 7 carries isn't great either.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: I hope the Patriots remind Anthony Smith about what he said every single time they score. lol, what happend to the Patriots? I thought they "didnt talk" they just "go out there and play" and have the "playing talk for them" Tom Brady going up to Smith after that 1st TD really doesnt match with that. Do you agree?

12/9/07

0	Good thing LDT got that TD in OT or else AD bad day might have got me the L today.

12/9/07

0	Look at Simms' sweater vest! ROFL

12/9/07

1	MrNFL wrote: Yeah, but 84 of those were on one play. 17 on 7 carries isn't great either. but it was still a 27-7 win for the Vikings. All 27 points scored in the first half, where they obviously just let Jackson do whatever he wanted to; and throw his 25 passes, and scramble 9 times. Why so critical?

12/9/07

2	BestofChicago wrote: lol, what happend to the Patriots? I thought they "didnt talk" they just "go out there and play" and have the "playing talk for them" Tom Brady going up to Smith after that 1st TD really doesnt match with that. Do you agree? I agree. That being said, I love it. Smith is the Patriots' b****, and deserves to be treated accordingly.

12/9/07

0	is this another fight in the making? What does Bill have under that jacked?????? Guarantee!

12/9/07

Nick S

2	There were actually people who thought this one who be close??? Anthony Smith must have been hungry today because he was served a big plate of his own words.

12/9/07

0	Pat wrote: I agree. That being said, I love it. Smith is the Patriots' b****, and deserves to be treated accordingly. Oh alright. Thats cool how you realize the Patriots arent as "classy" as they say they are. When they do things that are not classy, they seem to be ignored, but if they act classy, it is made sure by the east coast ESPN that it is recognized.

12/9/07

4	Next weeks early line for Pats vs. Jets... Pats -45.

12/9/07

0	well I guess the Pats are now 14-0 ( I d not think that the Jets are really a threat now are they????) So now we need a poll how long does that Steelers fanQ have to keep Pat's picture he picks for him on his profile? Will The steelers win next week? Stay tuned for more adventures in Pat's Domination!

12/9/07

0	Jubanator14 wrote: Next weeks early line for Pats vs. Jets... Pats -45. Imagine the line for the game against the Dolphins!

12/9/07

0	(Edited by kantwistaye) Jubanator14 wrote: Next weeks early line for Pats vs. Jets... Pats -45. That game will have the most amazing display of offense ever. I never look forward to a Patriots win, but I'm looking forward to seeing this happen.

12/9/07

1	What I find great about this, is that the NFL is going to look REALLY stupid when no one can watch the 15-0 Patriots play the Giants because it's on NFL Network.

12/9/07

1	jmh321 wrote: well I guess the Pats are now 14-0 ( I d not think that the Jets are really a threat now are they????) So now we need a poll how long does that Steelers fanQ have to keep Pat's picture he picks for him on his profile? Will The steelers win next week? Stay tuned for more adventures in Pat's Domination! Same Pat Time. Same Pat Channel?

12/9/07

2	I have a prediction for week 17..... Patriots vs Giants Peyton dresses up at Eli and takes the field for the Giants and some how pulls a win out of his ass to mess up the perfect season.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: What I find great about this, is that the NFL is going to look REALLY stupid when no one can watch the 15-0 Patriots play the Giants because it's on NFL Network. Thats what they want to happen. They hit the jackpot with that game and the Green Bay/Dallas game. If you want to see it, you have to see it through NFL Network and these are pretty much must see games.

12/9/07

0	MrNFL wrote: What I find great about this, is that the NFL is going to look REALLY stupid when no one can watch the 15-0 Patriots play the Giants because it's on NFL Network. I'll get to see it. I have NFL Network in HD.

12/9/07

0	Jubanator14 wrote: I'll get to see it. I have NFL Network in HD. Me too.

12/9/07

0	Jubanator14 wrote: Same Pat Time. Same Pat Channel? Unfortunately!

12/9/07

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BestofChicago wrote:

Oh alright.

Thats cool how you realize the Patriots arent as "classy" as they say they are. When they do things that are not classy, they seem to be ignored, but if they act classy, it is made sure by the east coast ESPN that it is recognized.

Are you kidding me? Like when they ignored the handshake soap opera with Mangini? Or when they ignored the incident last week with Harrison and Billick?

I don't give a damn about "classy". I love how everyone attacks this team every week, and talks all the smack they want about them, and then people expect the Patriots to sit there and take it.

If anyone on the Patriots "guaranteed" a victory, it would be viewed as classless...BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE RIGHT. But when Anthony Smith does it, everyone laughs it off as just some young guy making a rookie mistake.

Try again.

12/9/07

1	BestofChicago wrote: I have a prediction for week 17..... Patriots vs Giants Peyton dresses up at Eli and takes the field for the Giants and some how pulls a win out of his ass to mess up the perfect season. Even with PEYTON, the Giants can not possibly beat the PATS!

12/9/07

1	Jubanator14 wrote: Next weeks early line for Pats vs. Jets... Pats -45. That's the revenge game. Belichick, Brady et al will show no mercy. I don't care what the spread is...bet the house on the Pats. They WILL cover.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

Are you kidding me? Like when they ignored the handshake soap opera with Mangini? Or when they ignored the incident last week with Harrison and Billick?

I don't give a damn about "classy". I love how everyone attacks this team every week, and talks all the smack they want about them, and then people expect the Patriots to sit there and take it.

If anyone on the Patriots "guaranteed" a victory, it would be viewed as classless...BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE RIGHT. But when Anthony Smith does it, everyone laughs it off as just some young guy making a rookie mistake.

Try again.

Who laughed it off? ESPN sure didnt, the Patriots did. I had to hear ESPN talk about Smith for 4 days.

12/9/07

0	jmh321 wrote: Even with PEYTON, the Giants can not possibly beat the PATS! Read it again, I said he will have to pull it out of his ass. (which means its nearly impossible)

12/9/07

0	BestofChicago wrote: I have a prediction for week 17..... Patriots vs Giants Peyton dresses up at Eli and takes the field for the Giants and some how pulls a win out of his ass to mess up the perfect season. The only way the Giants beat the Patriots is if Brady plays offense for BOTH Teams, and he gets the ball last as a Giant!

12/9/07

CPops

2	Jubanator14 wrote: Next weeks early line for Pats vs. Jets... Pats -45. I am sure the Patriot Haters (Vindog) will still give us many reasons why the Jets will beat the Patriots, though.

12/9/07

0	CPops wrote: I am sure the Patriot Haters (Vindog) will still give us many reasons why the Jets will beat the Patriots, though. Yeah I know, the same way he is going to give us many reasons why USC loses when they play Illinois.

12/9/07

0	Well, onward to another tough game with the Jags at Heinz Field next week. I was wrong, but it still doesn't change my opinion about either team. I didn't see much of the 2nd half but I can bet Jim Nantz & Phil Simms were lovin' all over Tom Brady like they always do because they're such suck-ups.

12/9/07

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kramer wrote:

Well, onward to another tough game with the Jags at Heinz Field next week. I was wrong, but it still doesn't change my opinion about either team. I didn't see much of the 2nd half but I can bet Jim Nantz & Phil Simms were lovin' all over Tom Brady like they always do because they're such suck-ups.

Are you sure it was because they're suck-ups? Or was it because he absolutely torched your sorry excuse for a secondary, including that toolbag who "guaranteed" victory for your terrible little towel boys?

399 passing yards, 4 TD, 0 INT against the "best" defense in the NFL ... maybe Brady's just a damn good quarterback.

It's unfortunate that you can't just realize this Patriots team is FAR superior to your Steelers, and if they played this game 10 times, the Patriots might actually win 11.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

Are you sure it was because they're suck-ups? Or was it because he absolutely torched your sorry excuse for a secondary, including that toolbag who "guaranteed" victory for your terrible little towel boys?

399 passing yards, 4 TD, 0 INT against the "best" defense in the NFL ... maybe Brady's just a damn good quarterback.

It's unfortunate that you can't just realize this Patriots team is FAR superior to your Steelers, and if they played this game 10 times, the Patriots might actually win 11.

Nantz & Simms are indeed suck-ups. Everytime I watch a Pats game when they're in the booth, they will make it a point to praise Brady as much as possible, even to the point of blaming the receiver when Brady makes a bad throw.

12/9/07

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kramer wrote:

Nantz & Simms are indeed suck-ups. Everytime I watch a Pats game when they're in the booth, they will make it a point to praise Brady as much as possible, even to the point of blaming the receiver when Brady makes a bad throw.

Says the guy who didn't watch the 2nd half. How do you even expect me to respect anything you say when you walk out on halftime in this one?

Like I said...maybe Brady is just that good. Someday, you guys will have a good QB, and you'll understand. You know...one who doesn't choke under pressure and almost cost you a Super Bowl, or get his @$$ handed to him by the Patriots.

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

Says the guy who didn't watch the 2nd half. How do you even expect me to respect anything you say when you walk out on halftime in this one?

Like I said...maybe Brady is just that good. Someday, you guys will have a good QB, and you'll understand. You know...one who doesn't choke under pressure and almost cost you a Super Bowl, or get his @$$ handed to him by the Patriots.

I'm speaking from past experience with those 2. Also, I saw through the 3rd quarter until the Steelers got a holding penalty deep in their territory that gave the Patriots a 1st-and-goal. I then had to leave for church, so you can stop running your mouth right there!

12/9/07

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kramer wrote:

I'm speaking from past experience with those 2. Also, I saw through the 3rd quarter until the Steelers got a holding penalty deep in their territory that gave the Patriots a 1st-and-goal. I then had to leave for church, so you can stop running your mouth right there!

I can. But you should have stop running your mouth a week ago...and you didn't. So I'm not so sure that I will, either. Every time I predicted a Patriots win by 2+ TD's, you laughed me off.

Remind me...how many did the Pats win by today?

12/9/07

3	Pat wrote: I can. But you should have stop running your mouth a week ago...and you didn't. So I'm not so sure that I will, either. Every time I predicted a Patriots win by 2+ TD's, you laughed me off. Remind me...how many did the Pats win by today? (since you asked..it was 21. )

12/9/07

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Pat wrote:

I can. But you should have stop running your mouth a week ago...and you didn't. So I'm not so sure that I will, either. Every time I predicted a Patriots win by 2+ TD's, you laughed me off.

Remind me...how many did the Pats win by today?

I already said I was wrong, so that's as far as it needs to go. I don't know why you have to keep it going when I said I had to attend church. You're Christian, aren't you? God is more important than a football game, and unfortunately church on campus here is Sundays at 6:30...now drop it!

12/9/07

Lynn

0	Just further proof that the Patriots play to the level of their competition.

12/9/07

0	Lynn wrote: Just further proof that the Patriots play to the level of their competition. Lynn...are you trying to say they played down to their opponents the past 2 weeks?

12/9/07

XOSDER

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kramer wrote:

I already said I was wrong, so that's as far as it needs to go. I don't know why you have to keep it going when I said I had to attend church. You're Christian, aren't you? God is more important than a football game, and unfortunately church on campus here is Sundays at 6:30...now drop it!

Wow for a church going boy you show a lot of anger. I like your caption A FOOTBALL PROBLEM.. Thats right you can not win an easy game against the Patriots who have no defense and no running game. To bad you lost

12/9/07