Suh to Appeal Ban?!

11/30/11 in NFL   |   dazzblack   |   61 respect

What is wrong with Ndamukong Suh? First he makes an atrocious challenge on Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith hacking him into the ground and then stomping on him, makes a nonsense post-game interview in which he claims to be innocent and gives the weirdest possible explanation of trying to get himself off the ground, gets himself a two match ban without pay and now is planning on appealing that ban. I mean, what is wrong with Suh?! You don’t appeal a wrongdoing that has been caught on tape. It’s absolutely pointless and it reiterates the opinion of many people that Suh has got absolutely no brains.

Suh’s agent told Fox Sports Detroit that he is going to appeal against the ban. “He’s going to appeal,” Suh’s agent, Roosevelt Barnes, said, “We just don’t know exactly when, what we have to do.”

NFL’s vice president of football operations has already said in a statement that any appeal process would be accelerated so that the decision can be handed over to him before the Sunday game. Suh has in fact only three business days to make an appeal. The NFL looks quite sure on how they want to deal with Suh and his recurrent indiscipline. They really want to get it over with that’s why they will accelerate the appeal process, hear him out, deny the appeal and hand him his two match sentence. The public, more than the NFL, wouldn’t allow anytime lesser than that.

“He’s devastated,” Barnes said. “He really is. Missing games means a lot to the guy. He regrets doing it. He takes a lot of pride in being excellent. This really bothers him. It hurts him.”

To be involved in the game and having certain tenacity about your game is one thing. But to go all out into confrontations off the ball is a totally different matter altogether. What Suh does is mostly off the ball and what happened in the game against the Packers was off the ball as well. You don’t push people into the ground and stomp on them and claim it to be an increased degree of involvement in the game; that is just wrong. The NFL in its announcement also claimed this to be Suh’s fifth on field violation.

The Lions will most likely be able to beat Minnesota even without Suh in their line-up. But their real test comes against the Saints who are unbeaten at home and are averaging more than 41 points per game at home. It will be difficult for the Lions to beat the Saints without a key player in their squad; Ndamukong Suh.

The Lions will most probably be 1-1 in the next two games and it actually makes the absence of Suh almost unmissed. But if this 2 game suspension is what takes for a player like Suh to clean up his game then be it.

I personally like to watch Suh play because he is a passionate player and is an undeniable talent. But he is laying himself to waste if he does not learn how to keep his passion and aggression on the right side of the line. Suh will ultimately make himself a liability for the Lions if he does not change quickly.

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12/5/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

I am hoping that the problems that Suh displays is not what is indicative of what goes on in the locker room of the lions. Yesterdays game would seem to point in that direction. The Lions now have a reputation with the refs and that is going to be hard to live down. Not only do we have to play the opponant but also the refs. The next win will have to be flawless.

12/5/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Flint_Stone wrote:

 No matter what has been said or done you nor I have not walked in his shoes. So I am not the one to call him out of his name. He was fined, missed games ,2 pay checks and wrecked his car. Let him be.

You're right, we haven't walked in his shoes, but he's been very dumb on the field.  Wrecking his car was the icing on the cake.  What we should all hope is that the 2-game suspension teaches him a lesson.  He's young and has some growing up to do, hopefully sitting out and not getting paid for 2 weeks will help him with that.  Some people unfortunately have to learn the hard way.

12/5/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

This horse will not move, probably because its dead. He got his punishment and now wrecked his car. Not more left to be gained by this conversation. I did enjoy the banter but lets move on.

12/5/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

 No matter what has been said or done you nor I have not walked in his shoes. So I am not the one to call him out of his name. He was fined, missed games ,2 pay checks and wrecked his car. Let him be.

12/3/11   |   Michael_G   |   37628 respect

(Edited by Michael_G)

espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7310399/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-unharmed-crashing-car-tree

Suh is a douchebag and I just wasted 48 keystrokes on his a$$....and here is the latest news


He hit a curb,  light pole, drinking fountain and tree at 1:15 am ......he was found to not be "impaired"

12/3/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Flint_Stone wrote:
Everytime you get a automotive ticket , should they bring up all the infractions that you paid for, no. Just the ones you have not dealt with. And as I stated earleir there are things that happen in the trenches that escalate situations . It is well told by this reporter at this page.      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/962455-why-ndamukong-suh-is-both-the-aggressor-and-victim-of-stomp-related-suspension.

You completely missed the point.  Suh met with Goodell earlier this year, requested the meeting himself to try to help him understand the rules better and how he could keep himself from doing stupid things that cause him to get fined.  He STILL did this crap AFTER he met with Goodell!  That's like requesting to meet with the sheriff after a bunch of tickets and asking him to explain to you the rules of the road, and then going out 2 days later and getting another ticket.  Besides, your analogy makes no sense at all because repeat offenders ARE dealt with more severely, whether they've paid the fine or not.  It's on their record and it's clearly visible that it's not the first time the person has been in trouble with the law.

12/3/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

Everytime you get a automotive ticket , should they bring up all the infractions that you paid for, no. Just the ones you have not dealt with. And as I stated earleir there are things that happen in the trenches that escalate situations . It is well told by this reporter at this page.      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/962455-why-ndamukong-suh-is-both-the-aggressor-and-victim-of-stomp-related-suspension.

12/3/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Flint_Stone wrote:
There are certain things that happen in the "trenches". A player does not just go off. Also people continue to lump all infractions in one bucket. Let all players past transgressions stay in the past. Judge all on what they have done this season. I am not condoning what Suh did , but I still believe that there was something else that led up to it. Let his character be in question , not his style of play. We Need Through backs

The reason Suh's past infractions come into play is because he requested a meeting with Goodell earlier this year to talk about the "dirty" plays he had been fined for and ask Fuhrer Goodell how he can fix it.  He then did this on Thanksgiving well after said meeting.

12/2/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

There are certain things that happen in the "trenches". A player does not just go off. Also people continue to lump all infractions in one bucket. Let all players past transgressions stay in the past. Judge all on what they have done this season. I am not condoning what Suh did , but I still believe that there was something else that led up to it. Let his character be in question , not his style of play. We Need Through backs

12/2/11   |   Debi_L   |   11853 respect

Flint_Stone wrote:
Do you honestly believe that this a came from one play? Players only get that involved when a negative has been done to them. I am not condoning what Suh did, but I believe that there are situations that led to these actions.

 *I* honestly believe this came from one play.  Suh has already had several infractions called against him (I believe this was his fifth and the first after whistle infraction) Don't believe Dietrich-Smith was ever involved in any of the previous infractions.  Suh has gained a reputation.  He is living up to the reputation.  It would be much easier to want to just get rid of him if he didn't play football so well, but his ego seems to be enormous.  It doesn't seem that he needs a reason to be nimrod on the field.

12/2/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

Do you honestly believe that this a came from one play? Players only get that involved when a negative has been done to them. I am not condoning what Suh did, but I believe that there are situations that led to these actions.

12/2/11   |   dazzblack   |   61 respect

 I am not a Lions hater and I personally love tenacious players. But there is a fine line between tenacity and an overly aggressive attitude; I dont like people crossing that line. :)

12/1/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

 agree... but as with all  media, they have the ability to spin it left or right. I am a huge Lions fan and I would like to have seen Suh take his lump and come back harder than ever. That would have shown the Suh haters that he can take what they dish out. I dont think that his appeal diminishes his fan base but questions more his integrity. I enjoy him, the Lions organization(sans Matt Millen) and my home state of Michigan. I say that to say this .... They all are there for one goal. To accomplish that they have to have every able body there. This gives them the best chance of beating the saints and then  letting the back ups play the vikings and chargers. Makes more sense this way.

12/1/11   |   Debi_L   |   11853 respect

 Anyone who receives a fine/penalty in any area of life, be it work, sports, court, is told they have the option to appeal.  Of course there are different ways to state that.  I read the part about him being encouraged to appeal as well (on another site, I actually couldn't find the one you were referring to).  If he was told "this is your penalty and you know you have the right to appeal and if you are feeling like this is completely wrong, I encourage you to do so".  That's not quite the same as saying "you know I have to suspend you and I know that's not right, so you need to appeal"

In any case it is a moot point, since Suh has now taken responsibility for his actions and issued an apology.

12/1/11   |   Flint_Stone   |   1186 respect

I was surprised as most when Suh said he would appeal. But just like all things told by the media, the whole story was not told. if you venture to MLIVE.COM you will find an article that explains that the commissiner and the NFLPA rep were the ones that encouraged Suh to seek an appeal. If those entities told you to follow this path and your were a player with a passion for the game, would you also seek a review? I agree with the 2 game suspension but I also know that I would do the same thing. "Nuff Said

12/1/11   |   dazzblack   |   61 respect

Debi_L wrote:
 “He’s devastated,” Barnes said. “He really is. Missing games means a lot to the guy. He regrets doing it. He takes a lot of pride in being excellent. This really bothers him. It hurts him.”

HE'S Devastated???? Really?? Who the hell cares, Suh??? You stomped a man into the ground and were recorded doing it! How do you think Dietrich-Smith felt??? Oh wait, your ego is so huge, you don't give a crap!! 

Personally, I think that an appealed penalty that fails should be double.  Yep, it's his fifth onfield offense, so maybe he should miss 5 games.  At the very least FOUR games!

 The feeling is mutual. 2 games ban for a repeat offender is being nice to him.

12/1/11   |   dazzblack   |   61 respect

Scott wrote:
 The Lions will most probably be 1-1 in the next two games and it actually makes the absence of Suh almost unmissed.

I disagree.  The Lions are in a dogfight for the last playoff spot in the NFC with 5 games remaining.  They can't afford many more missteps if they want to get into the wild card.  Losing Suh for any amount of games is a big deal

 I agree with you Scott but what has happened has happened and nothing can be done about it. The best we can do is make a realistic prediction of their next two games and 1-1 is fair. Personally I don't think the ban is really going to change Suh since he considers appealing the ban!

12/1/11   |   XERXUS   |   8348 respect

the sad thing is he really is a talented athlete, he dont have to play dirty, just him doing his regular job scares people. once again athletes think the are above rules and find themselves by themselves Asked Terrel owens he mastered the art of being rejected.

11/30/11   |   Scott   |   53030 respect

 The Lions will most probably be 1-1 in the next two games and it actually makes the absence of Suh almost unmissed.

I disagree.  The Lions are in a dogfight for the last playoff spot in the NFC with 5 games remaining.  They can't afford many more missteps if they want to get into the wild card.  Losing Suh for any amount of games is a big deal

11/30/11   |   Debi_L   |   11853 respect

 “He’s devastated,” Barnes said. “He really is. Missing games means a lot to the guy. He regrets doing it. He takes a lot of pride in being excellent. This really bothers him. It hurts him.”

HE'S Devastated???? Really?? Who the hell cares, Suh??? You stomped a man into the ground and were recorded doing it! How do you think Dietrich-Smith felt??? Oh wait, your ego is so huge, you don't give a crap!! 

Personally, I think that an appealed penalty that fails should be double.  Yep, it's his fifth onfield offense, so maybe he should miss 5 games.  At the very least FOUR games!

11/30/11   |   Terry   |   25 respect

There's nothing wrong with someone using the appeals process that they are entitled to.

11/30/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Really, Suh?  Really?  You're still so much in denial that you don't think you did anything wrong and are now going to APPEAL this 2-game suspension?!  I'm losing more respect for this guy by the day!

11/30/11   |   lomadog

makes you wonder if the guy can play at the same level if he's not playing dirty

11/30/11   |   w_g_walters   |   223 respect

Dark alley, lit alley, it doesn't matter--no way I'm going near him!

11/30/11   |   ironhide10   |   31 respect

 Okay now this guy is beyond me!