The NBA's Answer To Brett Favre

11/9/09 in NBA   |   Beaze   |   271 respect

It boggles my mind that there is not a single GM in the NBA willing to admit they could use the services of Allen Iverson.  Are they trying to make an example out of him?

There seems to be a lot of old minds clinging to the notion that outspoken = disruptive.  What they really mean is, outspoken = assertive.  Someone that they cannot control, who has his own thoughts.

Everything Iverson said is on the money.  He is not a 6th man.  He can still play.  The tapes speak for themselves.

I remember another "aging" warrior who refused to step down at the insistence of hire-ups.

Brett Farve was outspoken.  He wasn't willing to squash his dreams or ignore his passion to please Green Bay executives.  He wasn't willing to admit to a crime he didn't commit.  The crime of getting too old to play at a high level.

Look how that turned out.

Allen Iverson isn't going to plead guilty either.  You're not going to lock him down until he gets his day in court.

You'd think that some NBA GM's would take their que from the Vikings and risk it with AI.  These are the teams that are stupid not to.

Nets - Who can take over a game in the fourth?  Devin Harris was at his best when he played beside Vince (a scorer, also with a reputation to be a headache...and a quitter unlike Iverson).  Furthermore, has anyone watched a Nets game this year?  Didn't think so.

Timberwolves - Iverson could protect Johnny Flynn and maybe help the Wolves save face in the year without Rubio.

76ers - It's funny how the only thing the Sixers are missing is a go-to-guy and their most recent NBA Hall of Fame legend is sitting out there in limbo.  Williams, Iverson, Iguodala, Brand and Samuel could get out the first round.

Bobcats - Please, if you put up a 59 point game and average 86 a night, a distraction is exactly what you need.

Rockets - They are an 8th seed with Iverson.  They have all the role players and no stud.  Even when T-Mac comes back, he can play the 3 spot.  Yes it would be the AI and Carmelo situation all over again, but at least that team was fun to watch.

People have this notion that Allen Iverson is a "cancer."  I prefer to use the term "cowboy."  Yes, he has a sticky and itchy trigger finger, but he's a win-first-guy, not a me-first-guy.  If the only thing he knows how to do is score, let him score.  Coach the other players to do the rest.  If you want to build a house you don't ask the architect to install the plumbing.  And this is one hell of an architect.

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11/19/09   |   eataylor41   |   1 respect

Since the sixers traded A. I.what have they done?

11/12/09   |   bballjennings   |   5 respect

I think AI can still do it at a high level. I think he should come off the bench for now. If he doing what he doing and scoring like everybody knows he can they will have no choice to put him in the starting line up. Young guys are starting so if he is a steady vet he could get into the starting lineup. He came in to training camp hurt. I think if he came off the bench and played like A I he would ge more respect. He has been doing it his way for a long time and it hasn't gotten him where he want to go. Maybe it's time for a change to something different....like coming off the bench.

11/11/09   |   Thinkaboutit   |   46 respect

A.I. will have to LEARN to EARN a starting role again. Start out as the sixth-man and prove to these teams why he should be in the starting lineup. He needs to focus on the big picture. When the team wins, he wins and not vice versa. He has to drop the "me first" attitude.

11/11/09   |   Talk2J   |   150 respect

dano1mac wrote:
It would never work in Houston, not once T-Mac returns. With Areza stepping up as a scorer, and a good defender why bring a canser like Iverson...Hell he is not the answer!!!!

HI M, A.I. is a good player, and plays when hurt, he is better than T-BACK/T-Mac. Now the only cancer the Rockets had when they got Charles Barkley in those days. A. I. will play ball to win, yes he needs to come to Houston and play for the Rockets.

11/10/09   |   alainpeartree   |   6866 respect

good point beaze,,, but the whole concept is to win a championship,,,, he cant do it all by himself,, not even Jordan could( not 1 ring until Pippen)

11/10/09   |   bubba34   |   2 respect

Beaze wrote:
 You know, I've read through all the comments here, and NOBODY has said that Iverson lacks the skill set to be an NBA starter.  There has been plenty of talk that he "should" accept a bench role, but no serious comments that he can't still start.  So why should he come off the bench just because?

On the Nuggets: JR SMith,
on the Pistons: Stuckey, Hamilton
On the Grizzlies: Conely

None of whom are better than AI.  I'm not suggesting he should start on a team with Kobe Bryant, Wade, Durant, etc... at the shooting guard position.  But on the teams listed above (as well as the Knicks), he could easily start and be effective, and therefore happy, and therefore a non-headache.  It's win-win.

He maybe better than those players listed but if he could learn to come off the bench it would stretch out his career. He didn't fit in with the Pistons because of Curry, the coach, who told Ai what he wanted to hear, that Curry would not bring him off the bench. That is one of the reasons that Curry lost his job, that and he wasn't a very good coach.

11/10/09   |   Beaze   |   271 respect

 You know, I've read through all the comments here, and NOBODY has said that Iverson lacks the skill set to be an NBA starter.  There has been plenty of talk that he "should" accept a bench role, but no serious comments that he can't still start.  So why should he come off the bench just because?

On the Nuggets: JR SMith,
on the Pistons: Stuckey, Hamilton
On the Grizzlies: Conely

None of whom are better than AI.  I'm not suggesting he should start on a team with Kobe Bryant, Wade, Durant, etc... at the shooting guard position.  But on the teams listed above (as well as the Knicks), he could easily start and be effective, and therefore happy, and therefore a non-headache.  It's win-win.

11/10/09   |   alainpeartree   |   6866 respect

that has always been AI's downfall, if he learned how to pass when necessary,, he couldve been the MVP alot more years. Look how many rings the Admiral got when he learned he wasnt the man anymore and rode TD's coat tails,,,,,,, if Pat Ewing wouldve done the same,, we (NYERS) wouldve forgotten all about JOHN STARKS !!!

11/10/09   |   marcus_nyce   |   27037 respect

alainpeartree wrote:
you poor thing a Knick fan, tsk tsk tsk,,,,,, but I could see him with the cavs,,, I think Lebron and shaq will put him inhis place. That would be the only way Cavs gonna beat Celts this year!!!!!

LOL

11/10/09   |   solomonrichardson96   |   23 respect

rogercarver1960 wrote:
If AI could be a role player instead of the star of the team, some GM might take a chance on him.

I agree entirely with you.  Just imagine what Magic Johnson would have been like had he came back as a role player instead of the leader of the Lakers when he came back?  It's not in those type of players to take a back seat to just anyone.  I saw Magic and Bird take back seats to Jordan.  I think AI will take on a role if put in the right situation.  Why should he take a role with the Knicks or whomever the team is that is asking such a senile thing?  In my opinion, it was a silly move to add AI to that team thinking like that.  At 90, he is still as quick and more lethal than their entire guard combinations all together.  I bet AI could out score them all.  I bet he has more assists.  I bet he has more game shots.  A wolf is going to be a wolf.  Don't buy a wolf when you wanted a sheep.  AI is the ultimate warrior.  That's like marrying a woman so that you can make her a different woman than she is.  It ain't gonna work.  If she decides to submit or whatever to your desire, then its all good; however, if she doesn't, don't think you can change her.  Plus, you've got troubles!!!  It is what it is.  I can't imagine what a young team that isn't on the brink of greatness already would want with AI.  He is not a role model, never was and never will be.  So, he would have no value to a young building and developing team.  He wants to win now.  Remember how it worked out with Dennis Rodman and The Admiral.  Dennis left calling him a sissy and went on to a three-peat.  He even developed a tinge of respect for Scottie.  Nonetheless, not once did he disrupt the team.  Greatness respects greatness.  He did what he had to do to win.  Guys like them, they don't know any other way.  In winning time, you've got to gunsmoke them.  Just ask Karl Malone; and yes, you can even ask Shaq.  Rodman came through on both in winning time.  They won't function as number two in a unstable environment.  Their instinct is to squabble.  Michael Jordan was not different.  Neither was Bird, or any of the greats.

11/10/09   |   rogercarver1960   |   126 respect

If AI could be a role player instead of the star of the team, some GM might take a chance on him.

11/10/09   |   bubba34   |   2 respect

solomonrichardson96 wrote:
Hey yall,

Come on, give AI his props.  He is a beast!!!  He will take the game to anybody in fearless fashion.  He has done it.  He did it to Mike!  He is one of the few that has a game or so that he out played Jordan.  Hell, AI is a top 50.  What more needs to be said???  Greatness always respect greatness.  AI would have behavior like he did with John Thompson at Georgetown with the Lakers.  Melo is good, but AI is great!!!  It's a difference.  AI is not inspired nor motivated by Melo.  AI should have been the man in Denver.  Melo should have followed, played his game and learned.  You have to pay your dues in anything.  Kobe paid his and look how he's benefitted.  The potential for greatness is just being tagged on Melo, he hasn't earned it.  Ain't no way AI will follow Melo.  How could any basketball mind even think there was a chance at sitting AI down behind a tandem of nobodies.  AI is still playing like a top 50.  That is why we are discussing the dinosaur.  Kobe or LeBron, even Wade, I lay odds that AI would do what he had to do to win!!!  The bottom line.

There is no doubt that AI is a very good player, a top 50 type player. I think that he does not posses the same skill set he had when he entered the league and he does not see it or realize it yet and he is having a hard time dealing with the fact that everyone else realizes that he has lost a step. He thinks that he is still a starter, when in actuality he would be more effective coming off the bench.

11/10/09   |   solomonrichardson96   |   23 respect

Hey yall,

Come on, give AI his props.  He is a beast!!!  He will take the game to anybody in fearless fashion.  He has done it.  He did it to Mike!  He is one of the few that has a game or so that he out played Jordan.  Hell, AI is a top 50.  What more needs to be said???  Greatness always respect greatness.  AI would have behavior like he did with John Thompson at Georgetown with the Lakers.  Melo is good, but AI is great!!!  It's a difference.  AI is not inspired nor motivated by Melo.  AI should have been the man in Denver.  Melo should have followed, played his game and learned.  You have to pay your dues in anything.  Kobe paid his and look how he's benefitted.  The potential for greatness is just being tagged on Melo, he hasn't earned it.  Ain't no way AI will follow Melo.  How could any basketball mind even think there was a chance at sitting AI down behind a tandem of nobodies.  AI is still playing like a top 50.  That is why we are discussing the dinosaur.  Kobe or LeBron, even Wade, I lay odds that AI would do what he had to do to win!!!  The bottom line.

11/10/09   |   solomonrichardson96   |   23 respect

Sure, he is as old as basketball now; however, I remember that he took essentially nobody to the championship game against the likes of Koby, Shaq, Harper, etc.  He was literally the team.  He had to be to win.  That is the key phrase.  He had to be!!!  I almost wanted to root for him.  I recall him giving Kobe and anyone else the Lakers put on him the fits.  And, he tried to win all by himself and came awful damn close for a one man basketball team.  Hell he had, what's his name??? (Eric Snow) as the starting complimentary guard.  Think about that.  I can't remember a sorrier guard play starting guard in a championship series.  Unless you are a Philly fan, you can't remember the other starters.  AI has lost more game than any of the young guards today will ever have and he still will play over 80% to90% off the court, no contest.  Maybe, more like 95% to 100% on any given night.  I would bet odds that he'd make the Lakers unbeatable.  They are proven winners!  They are the consummate professionals!  They have the greatest basketball player that is playing!  They have the greatest coach ever coaching!  They have one of the top two most professional group of bosses in the history of the game:  The whole front business office and all staffs.  I think AI would be humbled by the greatness other than himself and play like you have never seen him play, like off the ball when necessary.  He'll play eighth (8th) man from out of the stands for a coach like Phil Jackson, a player like Kobe and/or LeBron.  Warriors respect other warriors.  Could you imagine what it would be like chasing AI around the court trying to deny him the ball?  Then imagine this, five to ten assists every night.  Shittttttttt, I could get 4 to 7 every night on the Lakers.  And just think about this, Kobe with a lot less defensive pressure on him.  Oh yea, you got to put somebody or more on AI.  He like Kobe, has been burned and taught by the best ever.  This and Cleveland is the only fit because Boston is already pat.  It would be horrible for opposing guard tandems to have to see Kobe and AI.  Very possibly, the best ever!!! 

11/10/09   |   alainpeartree   |   6866 respect

marcus_nyce wrote:
My Knicks could use just about anybody right now. I'd be okay with that.

you poor thing a Knick fan, tsk tsk tsk,,,,,, but I could see him with the cavs,,, I think Lebron and shaq will put him inhis place. That would be the only way Cavs gonna beat Celts this year!!!!!

11/10/09   |   redberrydestin   |   106 respect

Great article!!

11/10/09   |   marcus_nyce   |   27037 respect

My Knicks could use just about anybody right now. I'd be okay with that.

11/10/09   |   UMemFan

I am sick of prima dona's....  Let Iverson go to some high-dollar Euro team.  He is always getting in the way of a growing franchise.  And not taking up any slack.  Let him make good money across the pond.

11/10/09   |   CoachHall   |   29 respect

Alley Ive need to go back to Philly! The bullheaded cigar smoking, ignorant ass GM, want to make an example of him and he's losing fan support and money! If your reading this A.I. I'm been behind you since you came to Philly. Plus, I met you a couple of times in Friday's on City Line Ave.

11/10/09   |   dipen9777

hi

11/10/09   |   dano1mac   |   38 respect

Talk2J wrote:
Hi Beaze, good article I would like A.I. in Houston with the Rockets.

It would never work in Houston, not once T-Mac returns. With Areza stepping up as a scorer, and a good defender why bring a canser like Iverson...Hell he is not the answer!!!!

11/9/09   |   UKYLCAT   |   7 respect

He should go snort more coke......he is a loser and  thinks Iverson first, team last.  he is the ultimate big headed overpaid, long overdue to retire because of dimininshing skills and a bust for memphis

11/9/09   |   brucek863   |   50 respect

I like AI. If it wasn't for him what other unwanted player could of the Nuggets gave up for Billups.

11/9/09   |   nortonsfury   |   130 respect

 AI is done.  He has worn out his welcome every place he has been.  That is why no GM wants to take a shot and sign him.  He is no longer a starter in this league and even when he was he wasnt worth the trouble.  Any team he has played for he has hampered more then he has helped.  And dont give me the sixers one trip to the finals.  that happened in spite of him.

11/9/09   |   Dave4337   |   511 respect

I think he is another spoiled kid who is used to getting his way because of his talent and ability. Now he is playing off the bench and instead of playing hard and showing his critics that he still has it, he is whining and left the team like a spoiled brat who is taking his ball home because he did not get his way.

11/9/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
I absolutely would not sign A.I.  Even at his best, he's a one trick pony.  He could only drive to the hoop.  Now he rode that one trick to a Hall of Fame career, but its over for him. He can't shoot or play defense so he has no potential as a role player. 

That's a strong statement, but it might be spot on. I would think that if AI would make some choices, like choosing to come off the bench and be a mentor, that he might have value still. But that would be on him and I don't know that his pride would let him do that.

11/9/09   |   THE_Smoot   |   70 respect

Allen Iverson and Larry Brown REUNITE!

11/9/09   |   CowboyFan1   |   74 respect

Never liked him and...well, never will...his actions/mouth are a turn off.  In this day and time,with all sports trying to clean up (HA HA) he is not for that...He is yet another in the pro-sports that is all about himself and not whom he is playing for.

11/9/09   |   gwolde47

who is Allen Iverson, Just kidding. I think there are teams who needs his service. He got his own mind
and majority of the time ,he makes a lot of sense...I think

11/9/09   |   Talk2J   |   150 respect

Hi Beaze, good article I would like A.I. in Houston with the Rockets.

11/9/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4211 respect

I absolutely would not sign A.I.  Even at his best, he's a one trick pony.  He could only drive to the hoop.  Now he rode that one trick to a Hall of Fame career, but its over for him. He can't shoot or play defense so he has no potential as a role player. 

11/9/09   |   Jay_B   |   193 respect

Nice article!!

11/9/09   |   Jays_Leafs_Ffan   |   48 respect

i think the Harlem Globetrotters should take a chance on Alan Iverson cuz he is a joke lmao

11/9/09   |   washn2hiphop

he should go to the cavs

11/9/09   |   mk_donley   |   2554 respect

What are we talking about Bobcats??? We're talking about Bobcats. Not a team,not a team, not a team,we're talking about Bobcats.

11/9/09   |   jackso6331

Allen Iverson has too much pride to come off of the bench. That is the only problem with him. There are a few teams that need his scoring ability, like a Houston or Charlotte. He could easily get to start at those places. But his options are running thin.

11/9/09   |   kobe_lova   |   61461 respect

I absolutely agree. AI is who he is and there are several teams who should be able to work with that. Larry Brown did it for years because he knew AI's talent is what was keeping them in the competition. He is a great player and I hate that he is having to deal with this, and be treated like he no longer has superstar status because he is still one of the best at what he does, and someone does need to remind the higher ups of this. If your team sucks already, what would you have to lose by adding some pure talent, heart, and vet experience to your team? He would definitely be an asset to the Rockets. T-Mac stays hurt so it wont be exactly the same as in denver, and down the stretch when T-Mac is out again at least you would have AI to step up and take the lead. I mean minnesota, it's not like he can hurt you, hell I doubt if I could hurt you. I would put him on my squad if he was an option any day.

11/9/09   |   zballa07   |   44 respect

kobe is a ball hog they win why cant AI do the same i guess