The Redskins should trade Robert Griffin III and start Kirk Cousins at quarterback

Should the Redskins make a bold move and trade the face of their organization?

12/16/12 in NFL   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

December 9, 2012; Landover, MD, USA; Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III (10) runs with the ball against the Baltimore Ravens at FedEx Field. Mandatory Credit: Geoff Burke-USA TODAY SportsThe Redskins should trade Robert Griffin III.

There. I said it.

It wouldn't be a popular move, particularly in Washington, where RG3 has already become a fan favorite and helped the Redskins rise to first place in the NFC East.

It might, however, be the best move for the future of the Redskins, who still aren't quite ready to compete for a Super Bowl.

Before you close this tab and ignore me forever, think about it for a few minutes.

RG3 has already been banged up a bit and missed some time due to injuries.

You never want to assume that someone will get hurt, but with Griffin's playing style and his frame, it's hard to believe that he's going to last all that long in the NFL.

Additionally, the Redskins already have another QB in Kirk Cousins, who might be just as good as Griffin, and is already a better pure pocket passer.

Although he wasn't one of the big names like Griffin or Andrew Luck, many scouts believed that Cousins was one of the better QBs in the 2012 draft, which included 4 first round QBs and 5 current NFL starters.

After today's performance against the Browns, it's clear that Cousins is at least on his way to becoming a decent NFL QB. Yes, I realize it's the Browns, but Cousins finished the game with a 104.4 QB rating, even after starting 0 for 3 with an interception.

If the Redskins trade RG3 to a team like the Jaguars or Raiders who are desperate for a quarterback, they could likely get multiple first round picks, and several picks in the 2013 draft. They could immediately improve their team in several facets, and still have a capable QB and potential future star in Cousins.

While RG3 seems like the more dynamic player, I would be shocked if he's still a starting QB in 2017. He's electric, and an absolutely outstanding athlete. There's no debate there. But he's already showing us that he's going to get hurt unless he drastically changes his playing style, and he probably won't last all that long.

Would it be crazy for the Redskins to trade their most popular player, franchise QB, and possible Rookie of the Year?

Yes, it would.

But it might be the best decision they could ever make.
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1/6/13   |   Debi_L   |   11848 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Soooo

After today, your idea doesn't seem quite so foolish, does it??

You know I've always admired and respected your writing, Pat (well except for the NASCAR Drivers aren't athletes thing) and right now you have me thinking BIG TIME.

Oh, I can see in comments I've read here and elsewhere that you have nothing against him. I see respect for him in your comments, more than anything. I have to agree with your analysis, though, that his style of play may well contribute to injuries, including the further injury he suffered today. It wasn't a tackle or sack that caused the injury, it was his own actions in trying to recover the ball. He has been an amazing asset to the Redskins this season. They made me proud to be a fan again, and I admit I've cringed when saying I was a Redskins fan in the past. I certainly hope the injury is recoverable and he goes on to have a long and incredibly successful career with the Redskins. If there are any doubts, though, it may just be smarter to trade him now and cultivate Cousins into the QB we all see he can be, no?

1/6/13   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Soooo

After today, your idea doesn't seem quite so foolish, does it??

You know I've always admired and respected your writing, Pat (well except for the NASCAR Drivers aren't athletes thing) and right now you have me thinking BIG TIME.

Thank you.

And once again, I want to stress that it is absolutely NOT anything against RGIII as a player. I love watching him play, and it killed me to see him go down. I think he's an excellent QB, both running and passing the ball. If he stays healthy, I don't believe there is a limit to what he can accomplish.

The only reason I wrote this post, which I admitted would be a huge gamble in the first place, is my concerns about his durability. And I think that no matter how big an RGIII fan someone may be, they can't really argue that his durability is a big question mark right now.

1/6/13   |   Debi_L   |   11848 respect

Soooo

After today, your idea doesn't seem quite so foolish, does it??

You know I've always admired and respected your writing, Pat (well except for the NASCAR Drivers aren't athletes thing) and right now you have me thinking BIG TIME.

1/6/13   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

So...

12/31/12   |   kcman1967

JenX63 wrote:
Nope, I think you all are missing his point. He is merely talking the style of RG's playing is very physical which can lead to injuries. While Cousins is an (dare I say) up and coming QB, RG is worth more at the moment. If RG continues his "superman" playing he could get seriously injured.  I think all Pat is trying to say is "what if". As loved as RG is I really think the point is moot, but it was an interesting ponder point. You guys really need to lighten up....

I think I got the point.....he wasn't speaking " what ifs". He said they "should"......not should think about it. That's not a what if that's definitive.

As for me I truly don't care whether they trade him or not. I just think that's it's a crazy thing to do. To trade someone because he "may" be injury prone and you have a back up who "might be" as good is very crazy.You need more than 16 games before you can label someone injury prone......now Oakland's Darren McFadden.....that's injury prone.

His article has too many holes to be considered anything other than attention getting.

12/31/12   |   kcman1967

You should stop writing........" There. I said it."

12/25/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

j_cloud2 wrote:
To the writer of this article.  You are a complete and total dumb ass!!!  There, I said it!!!

Thanks bro. Merry Christmas!

12/25/12   |   j_cloud2   |   1 respect

To the writer of this article.  You are a complete and total dumb ass!!!  There, I said it!!!

12/21/12   |   JenX63   |   32646 respect

jbee2nd wrote:
I realize that the object of a sports writer is to peak fan interest, but come on... U would really consider trading RGIII base upon 1 performance of the back-up quarterback playing against the 'mighty" Cleveland Browns.  Wow, may be time to check classifieds for new career.... smh.   

Nope, I think you all are missing his point. He is merely talking the style of RG's playing is very physical which can lead to injuries. While Cousins is an (dare I say) up and coming QB, RG is worth more at the moment. If RG continues his "superman" playing he could get seriously injured.  I think all Pat is trying to say is "what if". As loved as RG is I really think the point is moot, but it was an interesting ponder point. You guys really need to lighten up....

12/21/12   |   jbee2nd

I realize that the object of a sports writer is to peak fan interest, but come on... U would really consider trading RGIII base upon 1 performance of the back-up quarterback playing against the 'mighty" Cleveland Browns.  Wow, may be time to check classifieds for new career.... smh.   

12/21/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

buddylee101 wrote:
Don't you have to go for your meds now. That is like saying hey trade Tom Brady for some unknown picks while he is still worth something. Get a life and find a new field, maybe fantasy handball!

Really? You're comparing RG3 to Tom Brady, and I'M the one who needs to take some meds?

Talk to me if/when RG3 is the best QB in football for a decade, rewrites the record books, and is sporting 3 SB rings.

12/20/12   |   buddylee101   |   1 respect

Don't you have to go for your meds now. That is like saying hey trade Tom Brady for some unknown picks while he is still worth something. Get a life and find a new field, maybe fantasy handball!

12/18/12   |   amandlaa   |   2 respect

Matt Flynn syndrome. Cousins has ONE decent game against the 25th ranked defense and you are ready to declare him on par with RGIII.  The pocket passer declaration is not based on the numbers. RGIII has the best TD to INT ration since Dan Marino  - not bad company  and his QBR rating is among the top 10. You are also making an assumption with RGIII that he cannot adjust his running style to avoid the hits which I think he can and will. He is a high football IQ with the athletic gifts  and work ethic- the upside is much higher than Cousins.

12/17/12   |   JenX63   |   32646 respect

Tyler_Waddell wrote:
Dude.. no. For one, Cousins has played one NFL game and had an above average performance against the Browns. RG3 has already proved that he is the Skins' franchise player. You don't trade franchise players. Two, they gave up pretty much their next three drafts in order to even get RG3. You really think they're going to trade him away to fill that void? No. Three, WASH only picked Cousins so that it could develop him (Shanahan is an outstanding QB coach) and use him as trade bait in the future. Which could be by season's end, with many teams in need of a young QB and the weak draft class nearing. In addition, Cousins has already expressed his interest in being a starter somewhere else. Sorry man but no matter how you write it up, getting rid of RG3 would be catastrophic for this organization and there's 0.0% chance of it happening any time soon.

ahhh, it's coming back to me now. I was asked how I felt about the Skins taking Cousins and I replied they would probably develop him and trade him down the line....wow i'm getting old it's only been a few months since we had this conversation reversed.
Most likely Cousins is on his way out. I will say, any team he goes to, won't be sorry.

12/17/12   |   Tyler_Waddell   |   426 respect

Dude.. no. For one, Cousins has played one NFL game and had an above average performance against the Browns. RG3 has already proved that he is the Skins' franchise player. You don't trade franchise players. Two, they gave up pretty much their next three drafts in order to even get RG3. You really think they're going to trade him away to fill that void? No. Three, WASH only picked Cousins so that it could develop him (Shanahan is an outstanding QB coach) and use him as trade bait in the future. Which could be by season's end, with many teams in need of a young QB and the weak draft class nearing. In addition, Cousins has already expressed his interest in being a starter somewhere else. Sorry man but no matter how you write it up, getting rid of RG3 would be catastrophic for this organization and there's 0.0% chance of it happening any time soon.

12/17/12   |   huskerdoug2009   |   2790 respect

After watching most of Sunday's NFL action it may not be long before Kirk Cousins leaves anyway.  At least 4-5 teams need quarterbacks and this year's draft class really has no one that I would trade up to get. 

12/17/12   |   KurtKingsley   |   1858 respect

interesting read....

12/17/12   |   mcmardey

Pat wrote:
Nowhere did I say that RG3 isn't an outstanding QB, or that he's a bad passer. I'm simply saying that I don't think he'll last that long in this league unless he drastically changes his playing style or his body type... neither of which are as easy as you think. Also, his value is at an all time high. The Redskins might be able to recoup what they gave up for him, and maybe more, and build up a stronger nucleus for the future.

As I said... it's a bold move, and there's no guarantee that it's the right one. But I believe it would be.

The alternative is to trade Cousins at some point, for whom you'd get far less value, and you'd still be running the risk of RG3 getting concussed again and missing serious time.

There's no way, in the long term, that you can keep two QBs as talented as RG3 and Cousins on the same team.

we are not talking about keeping them long term but as a long suffering Redskins fan the last QB that i felt comftable with season after season was Joe Thiesmann and that was oh so long ago allow me to enjoy the excitement for we have beaten Dallas Giants ravens and eagles this what we have needed   

12/17/12   |   MortonsLaw   |   156 respect

MortonsLaw wrote:
My eyes are bleeding after reading your nonsense. You do realize he is completing 66% of his passes as a rookie, right? Should he complete 80% before you consider him a 'pure pocket passer?' He has 18 TD and 4 INT as a rookie with little around him. Can we exchange personal information so I can bet you a grand that he is still starting in this league in 2017? He is 6'2", 217lbs at 22. He will fill out and put on weight. Good thing you don't run any franchise. 

Cousins could also be Kevin Kolb. It's far too early in either career to speculate how long one may last or how good the backup is. The Redskins can easily acquire a quality line via free agency and keep RG3 in the pocket and upright the way the Colts did for Manning for over a decade.

12/17/12   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

MortonsLaw wrote:
My eyes are bleeding after reading your nonsense. You do realize he is completing 66% of his passes as a rookie, right? Should he complete 80% before you consider him a 'pure pocket passer?' He has 18 TD and 4 INT as a rookie with little around him. Can we exchange personal information so I can bet you a grand that he is still starting in this league in 2017? He is 6'2", 217lbs at 22. He will fill out and put on weight. Good thing you don't run any franchise. 

Nowhere did I say that RG3 isn't an outstanding QB, or that he's a bad passer. I'm simply saying that I don't think he'll last that long in this league unless he drastically changes his playing style or his body type... neither of which are as easy as you think. Also, his value is at an all time high. The Redskins might be able to recoup what they gave up for him, and maybe more, and build up a stronger nucleus for the future.

As I said... it's a bold move, and there's no guarantee that it's the right one. But I believe it would be.

The alternative is to trade Cousins at some point, for whom you'd get far less value, and you'd still be running the risk of RG3 getting concussed again and missing serious time.

There's no way, in the long term, that you can keep two QBs as talented as RG3 and Cousins on the same team.

12/17/12   |   erichobeck   |   1 respect

How did you get through the screening process to be allowed to write on this website?

12/16/12   |   MortonsLaw   |   156 respect

My eyes are bleeding after reading your nonsense. You do realize he is completing 66% of his passes as a rookie, right? Should he complete 80% before you consider him a 'pure pocket passer?' He has 18 TD and 4 INT as a rookie with little around him. Can we exchange personal information so I can bet you a grand that he is still starting in this league in 2017? He is 6'2", 217lbs at 22. He will fill out and put on weight. Good thing you don't run any franchise. 

12/16/12   |   JenX63   |   32646 respect

WoW...I would love to see another Super Bowl in my lifetime, you are correct that this team is not ready. Cousins does a great job, but is that good enough? I'm reserving judgement or not...hard for me to really make any kind of call since Cousins only played the one game and RG will probably be back next week. You certainly got me thinking...

12/16/12   |   Smokesfan   |   3441 respect

Food for thought...