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7/1/08
The Shero Experiment: A Look Into Penguins Free Agency
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    With the NHL Free Agency set to begin in under 2 hours I wonder what exactly Ray Shero has been doing. Probably been in meetings all day with a large noticable vein throbbing in his forehead. If you noticed that vein showed immediately following the Penguins Game 6 loss in the Stanley Cup Finals. I guess he realized he would have to do some serious work, nit and grit accounting, and schmoozing beyond schmoozing current capabilities. All in all, this is one hard summer for Shero. He finds a problem with not ONLY have to re-sign 12 players, but he has to think about the large sums of money he will have to pay Jordan Staal (19) and Evgeni Malkin (21) after next year.
    What has Ray Shero and his esteemed crew done in the month and a half or so following the loss? Traded the rights of Pittsburgh born Fan Favorite Ryan Malone and Old Timer Scary Gary Roberts just like three days ago. In return the Penguins received a 4th round conditional draft pick unless Malone signed with Tampa Bay, then Pittsburgh would get a third round. Well, Malone signed a 7 year, reportedly $35.1 million contract with Tampa Bay yesterday, so we grabbed a third round pick out of that, granted Tampa Bay receives a third round conditional pick next year. Anyways even though Malone probably wanted to stay on the team because of the Stanley Cup implications he also probably wanted his due money for the pretty good year he had last year. As for Scary Gary, what can I say? I loved him, Pittsburgh loved him, but in the end he is an "old" player, but he brings the grit and tenacity you can't find much in the Penguins young squad. Who is left to sign? Well here's the breakdown in the order for which I believe the Penguins should sign:

1. Marc-Andre Fleury - The Flower needs to bloom in Pittsburgh for ATLEAST 7-10 more years. Enough said. Quality: A - **Fleury signed a good ass contract today. 7-Year, $35 million deal. Not bad, I thought he was going to command atleast 7-8 million a year. But I was right, 7 years :)**
2. Brooks Orpik - Showed his slow development paid off last year. Needs to be signed for a 3 year deal, under $10 million. Quality - B- - **UPDATE: Brooks has signed a deal for 5 years with the Pens.**
3. Marian Hossa - Would work great for Sidney Crosby, but asks for too much money, Sign him to a backloaded 5 year deal. Quality - A- - **UPDATE - Marian Hossa signs a 1 year deal with the Detroit Red Wings. Ain't that a kick in the ass? Deal is worth $7.5 million.**
4. Jarrko Ruutu - Not many Penguins will destroy and be destroyed in a fight and still smile afterwards. Ruutu brings a great defensive presence to the opposition. He can also score a nifty shootout goal. Should be signed to a 3 year contract under $9 million. Quality - B- - **UPDATE: Jarkko Ruutu is signed by Ottawa Senators to a 3-year deal.**
5. Pascal Dupuis - Shows he can play great in our system, but may prove too costly for the Pens. 2 Year contract under $6 million. Quality - C - **UPDATE: Penguins sign Pascal Dupuis to a 3 year deal for about $1.4 Million a year.**
6. Georges Laraque - Talk about a gunner. Seems as though fewer and fewer cheap hits have been allowed on our good players since Laraque has been here, but that's pretty much all he is. Too much too keep, better to find a fighter who doesn't require over $1.5 a year. Quality - D - **UPDATE: Georges Laraque signed with the Montreal Canadiens for a 3 year contract.*
7. Ty Conklin - I would love to see Shero keep Conk, but I think Shero knows you can find a competent backup almost anywhere (Danny Sauborin). I personally would try to resign him to a 3 or 4 year deal for no more than $8 million. Quality - B+ - **UPDATE: Goalie Ty Conklin signs a 1 year deal for $750,000 with the Detroit Red Wings. Jerks. Can you say son of a bitch? Your telling me the Penguins wouldn't give up $800k a year. First blunder in my opinion.**
8. Kris Beech - Didn't play all to often, if he would agree to a one year deal under $600,000 I would keep him. Quality - C- - **UPDATE: Kris Beech is in NHL Limbo. He was on 3 teams in the same season last year, and I guess the Pens will keep him if no one else waives him.**
9. Adam Hall - I think Adam Hall would prefer to stay, but I don't see it happening. If he does sign though it should be for around 5 years, $9.5 million. He did add a strong presence on the ice. Quality - B - **UPDATE: Adam Hall signed a 3 year contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning only worth $1.8 million.**

Other things to help aid this situation: Re-Sign Evgeni Malkin to a backloaded deal of mainly incentives. Something like 10-year, $110 million, but the first seasons he only gets like $4 million and at the end of the contract gets $13 million (where we would promptly resign him with like 4 years left). Re-Sign Jordan Staal to a front loaded deal. Maybe 6 year $55 million. Front loaded contract. He would receive like 8 (no more than Crosby) a year for the first 2 years, then it would go down considerably to where his last 2 years would be able $3.5 million.

That is what I think at least, just me and myself. Tell me what you think in the comments.

**UPDATE: Evgeni Malkin has agreed to a Penguins extensions similar to Sidney Crosby's 5 year, $8.7 mil a year. Contract information currently not available.**
**ANOTHER UPDATE: Penguins resign Defenseman Mark Eaton. Eaton was a free agent, but his injury proneness from the past 2 seasons (missing well over 84 games) made me feel the Pens wouldn't think about re-signing him, hence why he wasn't on my list of resignings. In addition to this I also did not include 2 other players who are free agents.**


The Shero Experiment Tally:
Players Re-Signed: 5 (Pascal Dupuis (LW), Mark Eaton (D), Evgeni Malkin (C), Brooks Orpik (D), Marc-Andre Fleury (G))
Players Lost: 7 (Ty Conklin (G), Gary Roberts (LW), Ryan Malone (RW), Adam Hall (RW), Marian Hossa (RW), Jarkko Ruutu (RW), Georges Laraque (LW))

Player Offers: Jagr and Naslund did not take Pens offers. Currently working out an offer with Janne Pesonen (LW).


Free Agents Signed:
    -Eric Godard (RW) from Calgary Flames to 3 year deal.
    -Ruslan Fedotenko (LW), to a 1 year deal worth $2.5 Million.
    -Miroslav Satan (LW) to a 1-Year deal worth $3.5 million.
    -Matt Cooke (LW) to a 2-Year deal worth $2.5 Million.
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7/1/08
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Beech and Eaton are worthless IMO.  Both of them are way too injury prone, and I don't understand why the Pens even attempted to offer either of them a contract.  I'd like to keep Conklin and get rid of Sabourin.  The Pens finally gave Conklin a chance to show what he's really capable of this year, and after that display of incredible goaltending, they'd be fools to let him go.  I do agree that Laraque is expendable, and I'm still upset about Malone.

7/1/08
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In up to date news, Conklin signs with the Red Wings. :-X haha. Yeah that's stupid they didn't keep him. We could have had the equivalent of of Hasek/Osgood.

7/1/08
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PaulAbbott wrote:
In up to date news, Conklin signs with the Red Wings. :-X haha. Yeah that's stupid they didn't keep him. We could have had the equivalent of of Hasek/Osgood.

No way. Hasek is an old shoe-in hall of famer and Osgood is a very good veteran goalie. Fluery is a young goalie who has yet to prove himself as a consistent star goalie- he had a good playoff, but it takes more than one instance.

 

Anyway overall nice analysis. However, there is no way Orpik gets signed for under $3.5M per- although he isn't worth that much, he will command a large sum on the open market.

 

Also, I am a bit shocked that the Pens offered Jagr a contract. However, the chances Jagr signs there are almost 0 because:

-Jagr has gotten booed everytime he touches the puck in Mellon Arena ever since leaving the team (I think he got traded away)

-Jagr has already stated that his options are basically limited to signing with the Rangers or with a team in Russia


7/1/08
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I don't want Jagr back here. As for Fleury, he DID prove himself this year, but of course you're always going to have people who don't think he's that good(*coughTOWLIEcough*).  What the hell else could he do?  After he came back from injury he was the best goalie in the NHL, and was one of the biggest reasons the Pens made it to the finals.  Are you still bitter that the Pens kicked the Rangers asses in 5 games?  He HAS proven himself as a "consistent star goalie," and I don't know what it will take for every hockey fan to realize that.  He will only continue to improve, and I hope fans like you start giving him the credit he deserves sooner rather than later.

7/1/08
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(Edited by nyrangers)
kramer wrote:
I don't want Jagr back here. As for Fleury, he DID prove himself this year, but of course you're always going to have people who don't think he's that good(*coughTOWLIEcough*).  What the hell else could he do?  After he came back from injury he was the best goalie in the NHL, and was one of the biggest reasons the Pens made it to the finals.  Are you still bitter that the Pens kicked the Rangers asses in 5 games?  He HAS proven himself as a "consistent star goalie," and I don't know what it will take for every hockey fan to realize that.  He will only continue to improve, and I hope fans like you start giving him the credit he deserves sooner rather than later.

No, he hasn't proved himself as a star goalie. I'm sorry you have to hear that. Did he play well this season? Yes. Was he a reason that the Pens got to the SCF? Yes. Was he the best goalie after coming back from injury? No. Is he a star, top-5 goalie? No. Will he ever be? It's very possible. Anyway, there is no way you can compare Fluery/Conklin to Hasek/Osgood, which was my point

 

Don't bring up the Pens beating the Rangers in the playoffs- that's behind us and has nothing to do with the conversation, actually I completely forgot about that series. I am giving my opinion as a hockey fan, very intrigued by the offseason now.


7/1/08
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nyrangers wrote:

No, he hasn't proved himself as a star goalie. I'm sorry you have to hear that. Did he play well this season? Yes. Was he a reason that the Pens got to the SCF? Yes. Was he the best goalie after coming back from injury? No. Is he a star, top-5 goalie? No. Will he ever be? It's very possible. Anyway, there is no way you can compare Fluery/Conklin to Hasek/Osgood, which was my point

 

Don't bring up the Pens beating the Rangers in the playoffs- that's behind us and has nothing to do with the conversation, actually I completely forgot about that series. I am giving my opinion as a hockey fan, very intrigued by the offseason now.

He's already proved to be everything he was expected to be and then some.  He's a hell of a lot better than you're giving him credit for, and I hope this upcoming season makes you eat those words.  Good luck, you'll need it every single time you play the Pens!

7/1/08
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Yes, continue arguing on my blog. mwahahahaha

7/1/08
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kramer wrote:
He's already proved to be everything he was expected to be and then some.  He's a hell of a lot better than you're giving him credit for, and I hope this upcoming season makes you eat those words.  Good luck, you'll need it every single time you play the Pens!
Did you read my post? I said he wasn't an all star top-5 goalie...YET. He very well could be. He is a good goalie, and if he plays like he did in the playoffs throughout the season and through the playoffs, then I will change my opinion. But one good year a couple years of inconsistent work is not enough to convince me yet. That is all I am saying

7/1/08
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(Edited by kramer)
nyrangers wrote:
Did you read my post? I said he wasn't an all star top-5 goalie...YET. He very well could be. He is a good goalie, and if he plays like he did in the playoffs throughout the season and through the playoffs, then I will change my opinion. But one good year a couple years of inconsistent work is not enough to convince me yet. That is all I am saying

If this year's playoffs didn't prove he's one of the best goalies in the league, I don't know what will.  If you want to say he hasn't proven anything yet, be my guest, but you're so far wrong it's ridiculous.  The Pens, led by Fleury, are becoming a perennial championship favorite, and Fleury will only continue to improve, even though he's shown he CAN carry a team through the postseason, something he had never been able to do before.  But of course I guess in your eyes that's nothing but a hot streak, which IMO is moronic.  Just watch this upcoming season, Fleury (if he plays the full season) will be 1 of the leading candidates for the Vezina Trophy for best goalie, and will be for years to come.


7/1/08
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kramer wrote:
I don't want Jagr back here. As for Fleury, he DID prove himself this year, but of course you're always going to have people who don't think he's that good(*coughTOWLIEcough*).  What the hell else could he do?  After he came back from injury he was the best goalie in the NHL, and was one of the biggest reasons the Pens made it to the finals.  Are you still bitter that the Pens kicked the Rangers asses in 5 games?  He HAS proven himself as a "consistent star goalie," and I don't know what it will take for every hockey fan to realize that.  He will only continue to improve, and I hope fans like you start giving him the credit he deserves sooner rather than later.
I agree with NYR. I've never thought that he was an elite goalie. He came dang close to changing my mind in the Cup Finals. If he has another consistent year .925+ SAVE pct I would probably put him up there with the Luongo's and Giguere's and Brodeur's. He has steadily improved every year he's been in the league. Who knows maybe the playoffs were his coming out party as an elite goalie.
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My two cents on the whole Pens free agency dilemma: Obviously by letting Conklin get away they must PAY Fleury...BIG (or maybe Shero will take mine and NYR's view and try to undercut him...lol j/k)
So how much money will be left for Orpik and the others?

7/1/08
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(Edited by MarkTheShark)
kramer wrote:
He's already proved to be everything he was expected to be and then some.  He's a hell of a lot better than you're giving him credit for, and I hope this upcoming season makes you eat those words.  Good luck, you'll need it every single time you play the Pens!
He was the NUMBER ONE overall pick....don't you think even some Pens fans would disagree that he's been "everything he was expected to be and then some"?
Kramer, you yourself has posted here about how good this team is, and I can't disagree. You don't think the other team having to worry about Malkin, Malone, Crosby, Hossa and the rest didn't make Fleury better. While the Pens defensemen aren't the best in the league, you pair them with those backchecking demons you get a pretty good idea Fleury doesn't have to extend himself every night....especially with a four goal leads he had nearly twice a week.

7/1/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
He was the NUMBER ONE overall pick....don't you think even some Pens fans would disagree that he's been "everything he was expected to be and then some"?
Kramer, you yourself has posted here about how good this team is, and I can't disagree. You don't think the other team having to worry about Malkin, Malone, Crosby, Hossa and the rest didn't make Fleury better. While the Pens defensemen aren't the best in the league, you pair them with those backchecking demons you get a pretty good idea Fleury doesn't have to extend himself every night....especially with a four goal leads he had nearly twice a week.
Being the number one overall pick doesn't guarantee being a success.

7/1/08
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(Edited by nyrangers)
kramer wrote:

If this year's playoffs didn't prove he's one of the best goalies in the league, I don't know what will.  If you want to say he hasn't proven anything yet, be my guest, but you're so far wrong it's ridiculous.  The Pens, led by Fleury, are becoming a perennial championship favorite, and Fleury will only continue to improve, even though he's shown he CAN carry a team through the postseason, something he had never been able to do before.  But of course I guess in your eyes that's nothing but a hot streak, which IMO is moronic.  Just watch this upcoming season, Fleury (if he plays the full season) will be 1 of the leading candidates for the Vezina Trophy for best goalie, and will be for years to come.

You kidding me??? Calling it a possible hot streak is moronic??? It happens all the time!

Eli Manning was the best QB during last years playoffs. Does that mean that he will forever be one of the top QBs and make him a sure hall of famer? No, but it's possible.

Like I said, if he does it another year, I'll change my opinion, until then, we will see


7/1/08
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nyrangers wrote:

You kidding me??? Calling it a possible hot streak is moronic??? It happens all the time!

Eli Manning was the best QB during last years playoffs. Does that mean that he will forever be one of the top QBs and make him a sure hall of famer? No, but it's possible.

Like I said, if he does it another year, I'll change my opinion, until then, we will see

Fleury has been improving every year he's been in the league.  If you really believe what he did after his injury was a hot streak, you're sadly mistaken.  Keep thinking that, and when Fleury keeps putting up those kinds of numbers, I'll be laughing about how some Rangers fan on FanIQ said it was a "hot streak."


7/1/08
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kramer wrote:
Being the number one overall pick doesn't guarantee being a success.
But it sure does come with huge EXPECTATIONS.

7/1/08
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kramer wrote:

Fleury has been improving every year he's been in the league.  If you really believe what he did after his injury was a hot streak, you're sadly mistaken.  Keep thinking that, and when Fleury keeps putting up those kinds of numbers, I'll be laughing about how some Rangers fan on FanIQ said it was a "hot streak."

I'm done. You're being ridiculous. If he puts up good numbers and gets a Vezina nomination, go ahead and laugh, but you sure as hell shouldn't be laughing at me, the guy who said that Fluery is not a proven star yet but he COULD be. But please stop trying to convince me and everyone that he will be the next Roy and he is guaranteed to be a great goalie


7/1/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
But it sure does come with huge EXPECTATIONS.
Yes it does come with expectations, but that #1 pick has to live up to those expectations to stick around in his respective sport.

7/4/08
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Kramer, Paul What do you think of Satan and Fedetenko? 

7/6/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
Kramer, Paul What do you think of Satan and Fedetenko? 
Hey, I just watched a few highlight videos on YouTube of Satan, Fedetenko, and Goddard. At first glance Goddard looks to have a terrible fighting hand, but his best time comes at the end of the fight, the finisher. He could do very well as a throw down guy in Pittsburgh, I see atleast 17 fights next year by Goddard next year.

As for Fedentenko, he only has at most like 40 points in a season, I could see him having 50 to 60 if they play him with Crosby or Malkin, since we need the wingers for those two lines specifically.

Miroslav Satan looks a lot more likely to play up on that first line with Crosby, and I think he will do a fine job making plays down low. Age is my only deal with our picks.

7/6/08
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PaulAbbott wrote:
Hey, I just watched a few highlight videos on YouTube of Satan, Fedetenko, and Goddard. At first glance Goddard looks to have a terrible fighting hand, but his best time comes at the end of the fight, the finisher. He could do very well as a throw down guy in Pittsburgh, I see atleast 17 fights next year by Goddard next year.

As for Fedentenko, he only has at most like 40 points in a season, I could see him having 50 to 60 if they play him with Crosby or Malkin, since we need the wingers for those two lines specifically.

Miroslav Satan looks a lot more likely to play up on that first line with Crosby, and I think he will do a fine job making plays down low. Age is my only deal with our picks.
Shero has come out looking like a freaking genius ...Satan and Fedetenko are upgrades over Hall and Ruutu scoring wise and trust me Fedetenko LOVES to hit...Satan, well, Satan is Satan...he'll score down low and clean up after the other players have done the work

7/6/08
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I had to check up on Fedetenko, didn't know too much about him.  I figured the Pens could do better than Hall and Ruutu.  I know Satan is gonna be huge, just from his days against the Pens.  Seems like whenever they've played the Islanders the last few years, all you'd hear about was Satan.  Now if they can just get someone to replace Hossa & Malone, this team will be a favorite again.

7/6/08
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(Edited by MarkTheShark)
kramer wrote:
I had to check up on Fedetenko, didn't know too much about him.  I figured the Pens could do better than Hall and Ruutu.  I know Satan is gonna be huge, just from his days against the Pens.  Seems like whenever they've played the Islanders the last few years, all you'd hear about was Satan.  Now if they can just get someone to replace Hossa & Malone, this team will be a favorite again.
kramer!!! some rare modesty.....if the Pens aren't the favorite in the East, who is?///btw reading my comment it could be taken that I was praising Satan. I actually don't think too much of him as an overall hockey player, but he can score goals. You will love Fedetenko, he is tough and his unselfish play fits in perfectly on a team of offensive stars like the Penguins. I know because I witnessed his play for years here in Tampa. 
I'd say the Pens might need to add one tough guy forward and the front 12 are set. Wahtta ya think?
You guys got Matt Cooke....I see that...damn you Penguins!

7/6/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
kramer!!! some rare modesty.....if the Pens aren't the favorite in the East, who is?///btw reading my comment it could be taken that I was praising Satan. I actually don't think too much of him as an overall hockey player, but he can score goals. You will love Fedetenko, he is tough and his unselfish play fits in perfectly on a team of offensive stars like the Penguins. I know because I witnessed his play for years here in Tampa. 
I'd say the Pens might need to add one tough guy forward and the front 12 are set. Wahtta ya think?
You guys got Matt Cooke....I see that...damn you Penguins!
If the Pens aren't the EC favorites, I'd have to guess Montreal.  When I saw Price this year in the playoffs, I felt as though I was seeing deja-vu of Fleury last year.  What I meant about Satan was that it seemed like in recent memory, he's given the Pens some fits.  When you get a guy like that to finally play for you, it's usually a good thing since you know what he's capable of.  I can do without Laraque as well, and it looks like they've already replaced him.  Maybe Cooke can actually do more than just pick fights.

 
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