Thursday Night Football Live Thread: Chicago Bears vs San Francisco 49ers
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A Must-Win On Thursday For A Couple Desperate NFC Teams [Thursday Night Football Live Thread]

11/12/09 in NFL   |   Pat   |   5134 respect

Vernon Davis is ready to take on a Chicago Bears team that he believes to be... well... not that impressive at all, based on his comments. While that's all good and well, his San Francisco 49ers haven't exactly been blowing the socks off their opponent either.

Both of these teams tonight are in rather desperate positions. The Bears are 4-4, and on the bubble in the early wild card standings. They're 3 games behind the Vikings in the NFC North, and realistically, that's probably a bit out of reach.

The 49ers are only 2 games behind the Cardinals, but are sitting at 3-5, and really need a win tonight to keep them within striking distance. Their division is bad enough that they still have hope, but a loss today would seriously put a dent in those hopes.

The game starts at 8:20 pm EST, on the NFL Network. If you still don't get the NFL Network, I feel genuinely sorry for you, because you're missing out on some Alex Smith awesomeness tonight. 55% of FanIQ users picked the Bears to win. If you're watching the game, chat it up here all night. As always, enjoy the game. I know I will.
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11/18/09   |   rockhound87   |   33 respect

We had to win against the Bears last week, and our defense stepped up and took that game from the Bears in the final seconds!!

11/13/09   |   ary201   |   213 respect

zballa07 wrote:
the last person to throw five picks in a bears game was kyle orton

and?

11/13/09   |   zballa07   |   44 respect

ary201 wrote:
Orton: above average intelligence, below average arm
Cutler: below average intelligence, above average arm

If you could combine them into a hybrid QB Cutlerton/Ortonler, you may have a good player.

the last person to throw five picks in a bears game was kyle orton

11/13/09   |   zballa07   |   44 respect

ary201 wrote:
Orton: above average intelligence, below average arm
Cutler: below average intelligence, above average arm

If you could combine them into a hybrid QB Cutlerton/Ortonler, you may have a good player.

the last person to throw five picks in a bears game was kyle orton

11/13/09   |   ary201   |   213 respect

Dubya wrote:
Orton proved last week he is not a good QB. Can't ever ask him to win one for you. Cutler can. I just think he is too....i'm not sure what word to use. But he is better than Orton if the line would block.

Orton: above average intelligence, below average arm
Cutler: below average intelligence, above average arm

If you could combine them into a hybrid QB Cutlerton/Ortonler, you may have a good player.

11/13/09   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

big win for the niners!!!! besides the falcons game, this niner defense has been flawless this year. somebody give the defensive coordinator a raise!

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
Actually, I didn't say that at all.  I said that it's too early to call Cutler a bust, and that remains true.  I don't have much "cheesehead' hate either, since I'm a graduate of UW-Madison.  One thing we probably can agree on is that Aaron Rodgers has a bright future.  I love his game. 

I really can't believe Rodgers is doing as well as he is. I think somehow he inherited the Steelers O-line from last year.

11/12/09   |   billywa   |   658 respect

Rich Eisen just had the best line of the night:  "Cutler threw complete passes to seven different Bears receivers and five different 49ers."

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Actually, I didn't say that at all.  I said that it's too early to call Cutler a bust, and that remains true.  I don't have much "cheesehead' hate either, since I'm a graduate of UW-Madison.  One thing we probably can agree on is that Aaron Rodgers has a bright future.  I love his game. 

11/12/09   |   Chicago   |   38 respect

YGBSM, Cutler.....

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

billywa wrote:
Tell me again...why was Jay Cutler such a hot commodity last off-season?

I hope he can get it together, because this team has no draft picks in forseeable future.  I'm shocked that he's been this bad. 

11/12/09   |   gau13   |   217 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
He's not a bust yet.  He has a below average team around him, but yes, he will have to play a lot better in the future. 

You got that right and yeah I'm just hatin' cus im a cheesehead lol

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Entertaining game for me. Hard fought on both sides (Defensive sides).

11/12/09   |   billywa   |   658 respect

Tell me again...why was Jay Cutler such a hot commodity last off-season?

11/12/09   |   bayareabeast21   |   350 respect

 NINERS WIN!

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Wow, 5 picks.  That's something. 

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

8 seconds.  2 plays probably.

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

bayareabeast21 wrote:
 ILLEGAL CONTACT ON THAT 4TH DOWN MY ASS, WHAT A F'IN JOKE

 F THESE REFS

The thing about penalties is how you respond. The Bears had two penalties in a row after that. 49ers should have made a play then.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Come on, Jay.  The San Francisco defense looks tight. 

11/12/09   |   bayareabeast21   |   350 respect

 ILLEGAL CONTACT ON THAT 4TH DOWN MY ASS, WHAT A F'IN JOKE

 F THESE REFS

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

The lack of discipline on the Chicago team is amazing.  Stupid penalties everywhere. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
I hope a comeback can happen.  If not, the Kyle Orton fans will be out in force tomorrow.  Even though Orton has nowhere near the talent Cutler has, there is a cult following for Orton. 

Orton proved last week he is not a good QB. Can't ever ask him to win one for you. Cutler can. I just think he is too....i'm not sure what word to use. But he is better than Orton if the line would block.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

gau13 wrote:

I gotta give a shout out to my sister boyfriend Mike.  Back in the off season when I was worrying after the Bears got Cutler he said, "Gary, don't worry about it.  The Packers will be fine.  Cutler is going to be a bust."  I know he was right on one of the two statements in that sentence.

He's not a bust yet.  He has a below average team around him, but yes, he will have to play a lot better in the future. 

11/12/09   |   gau13   |   217 respect

I gotta give a shout out to my sister boyfriend Mike.  Back in the off season when I was worrying after the Bears got Cutler he said, "Gary, don't worry about it.  The Packers will be fine.  Cutler is going to be a bust."  I know he was right on one of the two statements in that sentence.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Dubya wrote:
There was a 3-year span (98,99,00) that the Steelers didn't make the playoffs, two of which were losing seasons that fans were calling for Cowher to be fired. The Rooney's gave him a contract extension. The Steelers have been one of the most stable franchises in sports since 1970. Really it all starts with the ownership. They hire people to do jobs then let them do their jobs. I don't see that as a problem with the Bears though. Looks like O-line and WR. But they did beat Pittsburgh. Maybe another late comeback for Cutler?

I hope a comeback can happen.  If not, the Kyle Orton fans will be out in force tomorrow.  Even though Orton has nowhere near the talent Cutler has, there is a cult following for Orton. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
I love the continuity in the Steelers organization.  If you can do, it's definitely nice to make good hires and commit to people long-term. 

There was a 3-year span (98,99,00) that the Steelers didn't make the playoffs, two of which were losing seasons that fans were calling for Cowher to be fired. The Rooney's gave him a contract extension. The Steelers have been one of the most stable franchises in sports since 1970. Really it all starts with the ownership. They hire people to do jobs then let them do their jobs. I don't see that as a problem with the Bears though. Looks like O-line and WR. But they did beat Pittsburgh. Maybe another late comeback for Cutler?

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Dubya wrote:
Tillman made a nice play only to have the 49ers recover

Yeah, he did.  Nice play by the Niners to recover it.  The defense has kept us within 4 points after all of that. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Tillman made a nice play only to have the 49ers recover

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

4 picks for Cutler. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Bad snap! Wow

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Dubya wrote:
The Steelers have only hired defensive coaches for the past 40 years. It only amounts to 3 hires..hehe. Drafting can make or break a coach sometimes. The Bears really need some recievers I think. Forte looks real good. Maybe some upgades in the line.

I love the continuity in the Steelers organization.  If you can do, it's definitely nice to make good hires and commit to people long-term. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
I think you're right that it shouldn't be a snap judgment.  Overall, Lovie has done a decent job as Bears coach, but I would love to see an offensive mind to work with this franchise quarterback. 

The Steelers have only hired defensive coaches for the past 40 years. It only amounts to 3 hires..hehe. Drafting can make or break a coach sometimes. The Bears really need some recievers I think. Forte looks real good. Maybe some upgades in the line.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Dubya wrote:
Really tough to pin it all on the head coach. I know it's easier to fire the head coach than all the players. I don't follow the Bears very closely either. But my take on firing a head coach is you better have someone better available and willing to take over the job. The good thing for Chicago is they aren't one of those teams a very good coach may stay away from because of the owner (Washington, Oakland) and there are some really good coaches not coaching right now. The key is getting one of those coaches.

I think you're right that it shouldn't be a snap judgment.  Overall, Lovie has done a decent job as Bears coach, but I would love to see an offensive mind to work with this franchise quarterback. 

11/12/09   |   Dubya   |   39 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
Lovie Smith is two quarters away from the first real questions being asked about whether he should go away.  It's a tough business, but the clock might be starting to tick on him. 

Really tough to pin it all on the head coach. I know it's easier to fire the head coach than all the players. I don't follow the Bears very closely either. But my take on firing a head coach is you better have someone better available and willing to take over the job. The good thing for Chicago is they aren't one of those teams a very good coach may stay away from because of the owner (Washington, Oakland) and there are some really good coaches not coaching right now. The key is getting one of those coaches.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Thank you, Singletary.  That was incredibly stupid. 

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Tough to defend his play this year, but I think he's proven that if he has some time to throw he's pretty damn good.  Still a bit wild, which compound with little time to throw is making a mess, but he's got a ton of talent.

It's crazy.  The guy has no time to throw.  He just threw another pick.  I don't want to see him get discouraged because this team is not ready to win (O-Line, D-Line, WR's)

11/12/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4201 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
Another red zone interception.  I don't know how much longer I can defend Jay Cutler.  He hasn't been what I expected so far.

Tough to defend his play this year, but I think he's proven that if he has some time to throw he's pretty damn good.  Still a bit wild, which compound with little time to throw is making a mess, but he's got a ton of talent.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

MrNFL wrote:
Maybe I should be glad I can only watch the game occasionally for 20 seconds.

Lovie Smith is two quarters away from the first real questions being asked about whether he should go away.  It's a tough business, but the clock might be starting to tick on him. 

11/12/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
It's pretty painful so far.  The playoffs will be a blast, but these teams will not be invited.

Maybe I should be glad I can only watch the game occasionally for 20 seconds.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

ary201 wrote:
This game's a real battle of mediocrity.

It's pretty painful so far.  The playoffs will be a blast, but these teams will not be invited.

11/12/09   |   ary201   |   213 respect

This game's a real battle of mediocrity.

11/12/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

Heyhey1970 wrote:
Another red zone interception.  I don't know how much longer I can defend Jay Cutler.  He hasn't been what I expected so far.

Yeah...INT's to the nose tackle aren't exactly great.

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Another red zone interception.  I don't know how much longer I can defend Jay Cutler.  He hasn't been what I expected so far.

11/12/09   |   ary201   |   213 respect

Fun! A Jay Cutler red zone interception!

11/12/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

This game has really changed since SF wasted that opportunity to score on their first drive.

11/12/09   |   celticfc411   |   51 respect

Will the Crabtree Curse strike the 49ers again? I sure hope so

11/12/09   |   celticfc411   |   51 respect

Will the Crabtree Curse strike the 49ers again? I sure hope so

11/12/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

...And the feed I was using is also Teh Suck.  Anyone have a good link?

11/12/09   |   MrNFL   |   175 respect

Not having NFL Network = Teh Suck.

Good thing the power of the interwebz allows me to watch this game.