Tim Tebow, Best Athlete in the NFL?

Is Tim Tebow the NFL's Best Athlete?

1/10/12 in NFL   |   Carlo_S   |   28 respect

I am going to try my best not to sound like Skip Bayless. But I think there is a legitimate case to be made for Tebow being the NFL’s best athlete.

Admittedly, part of my argument hinges on the fact that Tebow is a quarterback. The fact is that in today's NFL, quarterbacks are the most determining factor in winning and losing; in today's game, quarterbacks' contributions have to be weighed more heavily in comparison to those of non-quarterbacks. That being said, when you consider Tebow's passing and scrambling skills, decision-making abilities, and intangibles, there isn't a more complete package in the league.

To start off, Tebow is arguably the best scrambler at his position. The only starting quarterback who possesses a similar power and speed combination as Tebow is Cam Newton. Newton is bigger in stature (six-five, 248 lbs. compared to Tebow’s six-three, 236) and had a faster 40-time, yet doesn’t possess the ability to shed defensive linemen and linebackers the way Tebow does. I’d say Tebow is stronger in that regard, as he is essentially a running back when decides to take off.

As a passer, there have been times during his career in which Tebow has looked awful. But in the playoff game against Pittsburgh, Tebow surprised everybody by making on-the-money throws against a good defense. He has yet to be consistent from within the pocket, but it seems the potential for growth is there. Yesterday, Eric Mangini, who has been dubious of the Tebow hype, and Andrew Brandt, a former Green Bay Packers executive, both said they believe Tebow has room to grow and, going forward, should no doubt be the starting quarterback in Denver.

Overall, I think Tebow's unparalleled playmaking ability at quarterback makes him arguably the NFL’s best athlete. What do y’all think?

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1/13/12   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

kingtutankhaten wrote:
No such thing as a White athlete!

 wow, really?  Is there such a thing as a racist coward who hides behind Mummified remains of a miniature King?  

1/12/12   |   godlyke_soilder   |   77 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
Best athlete in the league? No he isn't.  To me the best athlete in the league hands down is Calvin Johnson. Human beings that weigh 236 pounds should not be able to do the things he does on the football field.  He cannot be covered by any single (and often two) human being. Tebow is far from unstoppable. Cam Newton can be stopped. Johnson catches passes with three & four defenders around him. That's just unfathomable.

Come on now weighing 236 lbs means nothing, thats like saying Charles Barkley should not have been able to run the floor and dunk on on players nor Larry Johnson, and they were undersized and heavy players, at their positions while Charles Johnson is just tall!  you should be shocked and dismayed if he couldnt out jump and catch passes over 4 defenders as big as his ass is. Also being 236lbs at what 6-4 or 6-5 does not equate to being slow at all, Im sure if he was slow he would not be at Wide Out.  Tebow pound for pound is more athletic, and harder to bring down than Johnson is on the move or at a stand still.  But I do agree Johnson is a beast, just far from unfathomable..........What Tebow has done is so unconventional and unfathomable as you say that everyone who wants him to be like all other QB's cant even comprehend why this guy is still the starter for his team! 

1/12/12   |   kramer   |   11003 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
Uh huh. So, you just wanted to say Ben is better than Tebow? Such a shock...

There are some aspects of his game that are better than Tebow, yes.

1/12/12   |   heelfan811   |   14951 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
Best athlete in the league? No he isn't.  To me the best athlete in the league hands down is Calvin Johnson. Human beings that weigh 236 pounds should not be able to do the things he does on the football field.  He cannot be covered by any single (and often two) human being. Tebow is far from unstoppable. Cam Newton can be stopped. Johnson catches passes with three & four defenders around him. That's just unfathomable.

Well said WhoDat!  And I would throw Larry Fitzgerald and Adrian Peterson in the mix as well...Tebow is a decent talent (with a TON of heart)...I actually would not be upset if he took this Bronco team to the Superbowl...don't think it will happen, but fun to think about...I don't even think Tebow is the best athletic QB...Cam, Vick AND Josh Freeman are more athletic than Mr. Tebow!

1/12/12   |   kobe_lova   |   59485 respect

kramer wrote:
I never said he was the best athlete, but that he's a better passer than Tebow along with 10 other guys at least, and that he's better at scrambling outside the pocket to make plays.  I never used the words "best athlete" there.

Uh huh. So, you just wanted to say Ben is better than Tebow? Such a shock...

1/11/12   |   ericrivera64

(Edited by ericrivera64)

LOL @ attempting to Compare Cam Newton to Tim Tebow???

Cam Newton has runnerback speed and elusiveness with freak-like athleticism. Tim Tebow is a FULLBACK playing QB. Cam doesn't just run like an elite RB having over 5yds per carry but he has a cannon of an arm that can stand and deliver all the throws.

Who's been breaking rookie and overall league records all season? That's right Cam. Amongst some of his accolades is a shattered record for rushing records for a QB and the FIRST player to throw for 4,000yds and rush for more than 500yds. I've seen cam slip away from DEs and DTs that are trying to grasp him. He DRAGGED a fucking CB for 10yds to the end zone. Oh and did no one see him brush-off with his arm  a 290lb DE like he was a little kid against the Saints? He made a couple of catches too.

Hands down Cam Newton is the BEST athlete in the league.

1/11/12   |   kramer   |   11003 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
Umm...you sound EXACTLY like a homer. Best athlete in the league right now? No.

I never said he was the best athlete, but that he's a better passer than Tebow along with 10 other guys at least, and that he's better at scrambling outside the pocket to make plays.  I never used the words "best athlete" there.

1/11/12   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

Best athlete in the league? No he isn't.  To me the best athlete in the league hands down is Calvin Johnson. Human beings that weigh 236 pounds should not be able to do the things he does on the football field.  He cannot be covered by any single (and often two) human being. Tebow is far from unstoppable. Cam Newton can be stopped. Johnson catches passes with three & four defenders around him. That's just unfathomable.

1/11/12   |   kingtutankhaten   |   3 respect

The Holy Grail is in Africa not Andes Mountain moron.

1/11/12   |   kobe_lova   |   59485 respect

kramer wrote:
I don't want to sound like a homer, but when healthy, Ben Roethlisberger is quite possibly the most lethal when he gets out of the pocket.  I'd say he's more mobile than Tebow, and also very hard to bring down.  I can also think of at least 10 active quarterbacks, if not more, that are better passers than Tebow, including Ben.

Umm...you sound EXACTLY like a homer. Best athlete in the league right now? No.

1/11/12   |   Beaneaters   |   17372 respect

There is a good possibility that Tebow takes the Broncos to a Super Bowl win, then retires and embarks on a mission trip the Andes Mountains where he discovers the Holy Grail. 

1/11/12   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

(Edited by derms33)

 Ben is tough, but athlete?  I am thinking no. He could be a moto cross racer though...oh wait...never mind...hahaha

1/11/12   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

 Athlete?  haha...NO...Big QB, YES.  Athletes...hmm, Patrick Peterson, Josh Cribbs, Cam Newton, Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson(albeit a wimpy one), Jared Allen (yeah, another white one), Ray Lewis (he's a hundred), Suh...jesus, this could go on forever.  Tebow is a flash in the pan, he beat Pitt and thats great, but i am sticking to it

1/10/12   |   senrabgeoff   |   1 respect

Um... I am going to pretend like the article was being a devil's advocate, when we all know QB or not Tebow is not the best all around athlete in a league of freaks.

Honestly I would have to agree with the Reggie Bush argument as he is a freak.  Or Julius Peppers (I think he is more gifted overall than Allen @ the same position), or maybe even ancient Tony Gonzalez (definately in his prime he was a better athelete).  Running backs, and linebackers take much more punishment and are doing many more things than just running and throwing.  I would argue that half of the defensive players in the league are better overall.

Also we know combine does not translate into real time athlete. 

I am not doubting that Tebow is an athelete.  I lived in FL when he was in college, and just moved to Denver and have seen him live @ both levels.  He is a freak, but as mentioned he is more of a running back than a scrambler.  He does not have great footwork or foot speed and that's why he looks slower then he actually is.  Also he is not really explosive either.  Show me a highlight of him putting any type of move while running.  He is a north south runner, and that should have been your first clue he is not the best athelete in the league.  The comparion to Cam is not accurate either.  Look @ Cam's overall length compared to Tebow: the weight is distributed differently, therefore making Tebow "stouter" and probably more powerful.

Sh!t, I would say Ndomikong Suh is a better athlete.  He weighs 300+, can bench me (I'm about 225) about 50-60 times, runs a sub 5 40, has similar vertical jump to Tebow, and gets pounded by fullbacks and double teams (double teams on almost every play mind you, watch some film) all the time.  Why no D-lineman in this article?

And as mentioned by other posters: he is not even the most mobile, elusive, nor hardest to bring down QB in the leauge, so how do you figure he is the best athelete.  Please do not allow your passion for a favorite player cloud common sense.

Is this an actual new article or a fan article?  Not trying to be rude or mean, just trying to rationalize the logic.

1/10/12   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   24042 respect

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1/10/12   |   kingtutankhaten   |   3 respect

No such thing as a White athlete!

1/10/12   |   Carlo_S   |   28 respect

kramer wrote:
Tebow acts as a running back more often, which may lead you to think he's more mobile than Ben.  I disagree watching the guy every Sunday for 8 years.  Ben is possibly the hardest to bring down.  I haven't seen a QB that's able to get away from a sure sack and complete a pass down the field better than he does.  Extending the play is what he's best at, and to do that you have to be mobile.  I just don't see Tebow being the best athlete at all with what you stated above in the original article, especially the passing aspect.  Good passing QBs don't go into a wind up like they're a pitcher on the mound.

I don't disagree about Big Ben. He's very hard to bring down. Also, I don't think Tebow is a great passer. He plays the position unconventionally and is very effective at times. All I'm saying is that when you combine all of his skills as a player, not just as a quarterback, he might be the best athlete in the league.

1/10/12   |   kramer   |   11003 respect

Carlo_S wrote:
Definitely agree about Big Ben being lethal outside of the pocket. I wouldn't say he's more mobile than Tebow, though. 

Tebow acts as a running back more often, which may lead you to think he's more mobile than Ben.  I disagree watching the guy every Sunday for 8 years.  Ben is possibly the hardest to bring down.  I haven't seen a QB that's able to get away from a sure sack and complete a pass down the field better than he does.  Extending the play is what he's best at, and to do that you have to be mobile.  I just don't see Tebow being the best athlete at all with what you stated above in the original article, especially the passing aspect.  Good passing QBs don't go into a wind up like they're a pitcher on the mound.

1/10/12   |   Carlo_S   |   28 respect

kramer wrote:
I don't want to sound like a homer, but when healthy, Ben Roethlisberger is quite possibly the most lethal when he gets out of the pocket.  I'd say he's more mobile than Tebow, and also very hard to bring down.  I can also think of at least 10 active quarterbacks, if not more, that are better passers than Tebow, including Ben.

Definitely agree about Big Ben being lethal outside of the pocket. I wouldn't say he's more mobile than Tebow, though. 

1/10/12   |   Carlo_S   |   28 respect

rayray3466 wrote:
  That being said, when you consider Tebow's passing and scrambling skills, decision-making abilities, and intangibles, there isn't a more complete package in the league.   

When does this all stop!!!!  I rubbed my eyes so much just to make sure I read this right I almost popped out my contacts.  Passing Skills are you kidding??  Next thing you know some will be clamoring for him to on the All-Pro Team.  HE'S NOT A GOOD PASSER!!  He has below average passing skills.  Takes him a full second longer to get rid of the ball.  In the win against Pittsburgh he had 10 completions.  The incompletes were not even close!!  Anyways I believe there is a place for him in the NFL, just not an every down QB.  Quite sure in today's dynamic offensives they can find a place for him to excel and use his athleticism.  If you want to see athletes check out Julius Peppers or Calvin Johnson guys like that are premiere athletes.  As others have said Tebow is QB trapped in a Running Backs body.  

Again, I'm not saying Tebow is the NFL's best quarterback. Or even the NFL's best player. I'm saying he's the best all around athlete. 

Could Peppers or Johnson be effective quarterbacks? Doubt it. Until then, I don't consider them better athletes than Tebow because quarterback is the most demanding position and requires the most skill. (In fact, I think all quarterbacks are underrated athletes.) 

Also, when you say "he's not a good passer," keep in mind he made some terrific throws against one of the NFL's toughest defenses. He's not a great passer, but at times is very effective.

"...Tebow is a QB trapped in a running back's body." That's my point. He could play other positions effectively because he's a monster athlete. 

1/10/12   |   kramer   |   11003 respect

I don't want to sound like a homer, but when healthy, Ben Roethlisberger is quite possibly the most lethal when he gets out of the pocket.  I'd say he's more mobile than Tebow, and also very hard to bring down.  I can also think of at least 10 active quarterbacks, if not more, that are better passers than Tebow, including Ben.

1/10/12   |   Carlo_S   |   28 respect

wrote:
 When I think of "athlete" in a particular sport, I think of someone who can play multiple positions and be very effective at those positions. I really can't see Tebow being a solid corner or safety. I think he is too slow for receiver, however maybe a pretty good tight end. So, is he NFL's best athlete? I would say not by a long shot. Too many ahead of him in that area.

I sort of agree. I think we both agree that the best athlete should play the toughest and most important position, which is quarterback (the best athletes play the hardest positions). Sure, Tebow wouldn't be a good defensive back, but he'd be an effective TE or linebacker. 

And there aren't many QBs who you would say could definitely play different positions effectively. I already mentioned Cam. Vick, perhaps? He's much smaller in stature and is constantly injured. Could he take the beating a RB/WR/DB takes? I'm not sure.

1/10/12   |   rayray3466   |   1255 respect

  That being said, when you consider Tebow's passing and scrambling skills, decision-making abilities, and intangibles, there isn't a more complete package in the league.   

When does this all stop!!!!  I rubbed my eyes so much just to make sure I read this right I almost popped out my contacts.  Passing Skills are you kidding??  Next thing you know some will be clamoring for him to on the All-Pro Team.  HE'S NOT A GOOD PASSER!!  He has below average passing skills.  Takes him a full second longer to get rid of the ball.  In the win against Pittsburgh he had 10 completions.  The incompletes were not even close!!  Anyways I believe there is a place for him in the NFL, just not an every down QB.  Quite sure in today's dynamic offensives they can find a place for him to excel and use his athleticism.  If you want to see athletes check out Julius Peppers or Calvin Johnson guys like that are premiere athletes.  As others have said Tebow is QB trapped in a Running Backs body.  

1/10/12   |   AlwaysSunshine   |   7037 respect

He needs some longevity in the NFL before I can make a call like that. 

1/10/12   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

 I will take Newton over Tebow but it close.