Tuesday Night Hockey Open Game Thread 4/16

Can the Rangers keep their lead over the Jets for 8th? [Live NHL Thread]

4/16/13 in NHL   |   Jess   |   34925 respect

Blog Photo - Tuesday Night Hockey Open Game Thread 4/16
Greetings puckheads! (it's been a while since I called you names, right?) Are you ready for some playoff atmosphere hockey? We sure are! With just a handful of games left, only a few teams have secured their playoff spots; though seeding is still yet to be determined for even those. Though we had a short season, it doesn't seem to have affected the excitement of the upcoming Stanley Cup Playoffs much. Let's be real though...not much can. 

We have quite a few games slated for tonight, though none of your hosts teams are playing tonight. You know what that means? We all get to enjoy some relatively stress-free battles! Although, I am quite thrilled that the entire nation with NBC Sports Network (formerly Versus) gets to see my goalie crush in action. Let's do this... (all times Eastern)

7:00pm - Panthers (13-22-6) @ Islanders (21-16-5)
Broadcast: SUN, MSG PLUS
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Picks:
BK: Isles should have this, don't let that playoff chance slip away!

Debi: The Isles want to end their home games with a win, and the Panthers haven't been exactly hot lately, so Isles it is

Jess: The Panthers don't really have much to play for anymore, and the Isles are fighting to hold on to that playoff spot. Isles.

7:00pm - Maple Leafs (24-13-5) @ Capitals (23-17-2) 
Broadcast: TSN, CSN-DC
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Picks:
BK: Both teams are playing well. I'm gonna go with the Leafs here for a win on the road, but this could very well be the game of the night!

Debi: Wow. Could actually be the game of the night. Caps are coming on a lot stronger but the Leafs can clinch tonight. I'm torn. I guess the Caps at home

Jess: I agree; this should be a great one! And of course I get to be the tie-breaker. Hmm. Caps.

7:30pm - Hurricanes (17-22-2) @ Senators (21-14-6)
Broadcast: FS-CR, SNET-E, TVA
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Picks:
BK: Oy, Carolina! Nothing left to do now but play spoiler, and I don't even think they can do that tonight. Sens win.

Debi: The Sens got an unexpected night off last night due to the tragedy in Boston so they should be rested enough to win this

Jess: I'm going with the upset special here. 'Canes pull this one off.

7:30pm - Rangers (21-16-4) @ Flyers (18-21-3)
Broadcast: RDS, NBCSN, CSN-PH
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Picks:
BK: Flyers are not scoring 7 goals again tonight, Rangers win.

Debi: Rangers

Jess: BK, the Flyers may not need to score 7 to get the win tonight over a consistently lackluster offense. However, I think the Rangers take this one...low scoring, of course.


8:00pm - Lightning (17-22-3) @ Jets (21-19-2)
Broadcast: FS-F, TSN-JETS
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Picks:
BK: Winnipeg should win this one, the Bolts are a mess and then some.

Debi: Oh the Jets better win this one!!!

Jess: Jets will be playing hard, trying to capitalize on their last few games to jump into that last playoff spot. I think they overtake the Bolts tonight.

8:00pm - Canucks (24-12-6) @ Blues (23-16-2)
Broadcast: SNET-P, FS-MW
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Picks:
BK: I'm gonna take the Blues in this one.

Debi: I honestly think the Blues can beat the Canucks tonight. They are strong and who cares what the Canucks recent record is!!! (Stupid Sports Centre telling me I should be a fan again!)

Jess; Even if I had no reason to give moral support against the 'Nucks tonight or moral support for my Blues fan friends I would be rooting for them tonight. Stay back, Vancouver! My Ducks need all the help they can get right now to stay at the top. Blues are at home though. I like their defense against the Canucks. 

9:30pm - Wild (23-16-3) @ Oilers (16-18-7)
Broadcast: FS-WI, FS-N+, SNET-W
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Picks:
BK: Hahaha...Minnesota will walk away with this one.

Debi: Well now. No more Tambelini. Instead McTavish has taken over. The Wild almost got beaten by my Flames last night. This could be tough but I hope the Wild take it.

Jess: Hmm I'm not so sure, BK. The Wild are much better than I anticipated, but I have a feeling the Oilers have just enough spark to pull off at least one more win for their home crowd before their season is over. I'll stick my neck out and say their losing streak ends tonight.

Blog Photo - Tuesday Night Hockey Open Game Thread 4/1610:30pm - Kings (24-14-4) @ Sharks (22-13-7)
Broadcast: NBCSN, KCOP-13, CSN-CA
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Picks:
BK: Ooh, tough to pick. I think I'm gonna have to take the champs for a road win at the Shark Tank.

Debi: I "think" the Kings will get this, but who knows??

Jess: I know I should theoretically, for the sake of my team, be rooting for the Sharks to take the Kings in this one but that's just tough. Personally, it's harder for me to wish good things for the Sharks than it is for me to wish good things for the Kings. That said, we're getting close to playoff time. Know what that means for the Sharks? Mmhmm. Kings.

So, I didn't include a vid with Debi's thread yesterday for some reason. Which, as usual, means that the "Hits" were postponed to today. Enjoy!


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4/18/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

kramer wrote:
I wasn't laughing when it happened here being that it's very rare to see 60s and heavy rain on New Year's Day in Pittsburgh.  However, what would make me laugh is if it's too hot and the ice begins to melt in LA.  It would be more laughing at the fact that the NHL didn't learn from what happened here.  You actually KNOW it's going to be warmer in SoCal, that's what makes it a lousy choice of venue.  It's kind of the same reason I want to see this next Super Bowl in NYC feature 2 warm weather teams playing in a blizzard as a way to show the NFL that there's a reason they've stayed away from cold weather open air stadiums for the big game all this time.

Well, ice can be maintained in warmer weather.  There are outdoor rinks in SJ and SF all winter long that seem to hold up.  Technology can do quite a bit.
Outdoor games would certainly work on the west coast.  I just don't like that there are so many of them. 

Hopefully the NHL brass will decide this is not a good thing and limit them after next season.


*Hopefully*

4/18/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

ML31 wrote:
I've been in Denver in January when it was 75F out.  You just never know and is a risk you take when playing the outdoor game. 

I suppose this means you were laughing when rain postponed the Pittsburgh game as well...

I don't know about you but even if it is unseasonably warm down there in the Great Concrete Desert I will likely not be tuning in as there will be so many outdoor games that it will no longer be appointment television. 

I wasn't laughing when it happened here being that it's very rare to see 60s and heavy rain on New Year's Day in Pittsburgh.  However, what would make me laugh is if it's too hot and the ice begins to melt in LA.  It would be more laughing at the fact that the NHL didn't learn from what happened here.  You actually KNOW it's going to be warmer in SoCal, that's what makes it a lousy choice of venue.  It's kind of the same reason I want to see this next Super Bowl in NYC feature 2 warm weather teams playing in a blizzard as a way to show the NFL that there's a reason they've stayed away from cold weather open air stadiums for the big game all this time.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

kramer wrote:
If any western conference teams are able to handle it, I'd say it would be Chicago, Minnesota, Colorado, the Canadian teams, and perhaps even St. Louis.  I'm going to laugh when that ice is turning into puddles at Dodger Stadium.

I've been in Denver in January when it was 75F out.  You just never know and is a risk you take when playing the outdoor game. 

I suppose this means you were laughing when rain postponed the Pittsburgh game as well...

I don't know about you but even if it is unseasonably warm down there in the Great Concrete Desert I will likely not be tuning in as there will be so many outdoor games that it will no longer be appointment television. 

4/17/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

ML31 wrote:
I saw the Kings LV exhibition games on TV.  Admittedly my memory isn't quite what it used to be and I do not recall specifics but I do not recall any major issues.  Rain can be a potential problem nearly anywhere the game is played.  Even a traditionally snowy city like Pittsburgh.  If rain is a concern then the only alternative is to just not play outside at all. Yes, the show in Orchard Park was pretty cool.  And there would certainly be no snow in any of the 4 NHL west coast cities.  But I still don't think that is a reason we should miss out. 
And now that is seems the NHL is making the outdoor games more common place, seems everyone will get a chance sooner than we thought.

If any western conference teams are able to handle it, I'd say it would be Chicago, Minnesota, Colorado, the Canadian teams, and perhaps even St. Louis.  I'm going to laugh when that ice is turning into puddles at Dodger Stadium.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

kramer wrote:
I googled that game from 1991 between the Rangers and Kings, and it looks like they had some messes to fix in that game.  I saw the blue line literally coming up.  The 2011 Winter Classic here was postponed until the evening, and at face-off the temp was about 60 and it was raining...absolute worst ice surface I've ever seen for a hockey game.  The snow at Ralph Wilson Stadium was better.

I saw the Kings LV exhibition games on TV.  Admittedly my memory isn't quite what it used to be and I do not recall specifics but I do not recall any major issues.  Rain can be a potential problem nearly anywhere the game is played.  Even a traditionally snowy city like Pittsburgh.  If rain is a concern then the only alternative is to just not play outside at all. Yes, the show in Orchard Park was pretty cool.  And there would certainly be no snow in any of the 4 NHL west coast cities.  But I still don't think that is a reason we should miss out. 
And now that is seems the NHL is making the outdoor games more common place, seems everyone will get a chance sooner than we thought.

4/17/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

ML31 wrote:
It can be done in Dodger Stadium.  I have been a huge proponent of having a Classic game in the west.  (preferably at either the Giants ball park or Stanford Stadium)  The ice can be maintained.  (This year temp in SF on New Year's day was mid 50's)  I recall the Kings played outdoor exhibition games in temp rinks in Las Vegas in September many years ago.  It was 95F there at night and the games worked fine. 
The only risk really is rain.  But weather is an issue no matter where the game is played.
But I regress...  The NHL never should have allowed all those other outdoor games.  They need to remain a one time (2 max if you let a Canadian city in the act once in a while) thing.

I googled that game from 1991 between the Rangers and Kings, and it looks like they had some messes to fix in that game.  I saw the blue line literally coming up.  The 2011 Winter Classic here was postponed until the evening, and at face-off the temp was about 60 and it was raining...absolute worst ice surface I've ever seen for a hockey game.  The snow at Ralph Wilson Stadium was better.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

kramer wrote:
For once I do agree with you, and said the same thing earlier tonight when I read about this...SIX games?!  Really?!

Someone is going to have to explain to me how they're going to manage that Ducks/Kings game at Dodger Stadium.  The NHL didn't learn from Heinz Field in 2011?

It can be done in Dodger Stadium.  I have been a huge proponent of having a Classic game in the west.  (preferably at either the Giants ball park or Stanford Stadium)  The ice can be maintained.  (This year temp in SF on New Year's day was mid 50's)  I recall the Kings played outdoor exhibition games in temp rinks in Las Vegas in September many years ago.  It was 95F there at night and the games worked fine. 
The only risk really is rain.  But weather is an issue no matter where the game is played.
But I regress...  The NHL never should have allowed all those other outdoor games.  They need to remain a one time (2 max if you let a Canadian city in the act once in a while) thing.

4/17/13   |   Jess   |   34925 respect

ML31 wrote:
The thing that really irks me the most is the extra point.  Some games are 3 point games an others are 2.  That makes zero sense whatsoever.  All games should be the same total of points.  If you MUST have a shootout then make regulation wins 3 points, SO/OT wins 2, SO/OT losses 1.  Now ALL games are 3 point games.

Still won't like shootouts but at least things will be more fair.

The playoffs don't have them.  Which tells me that the NHL themselves know how worthless their regular season really is.
(Edited by Jess)

Regulation win = 3
S/O or OT win = 2
SO/OT loss = 1

This totally makes sense. When they first announced that they would be getting away from the possibility of ending games in a tie and having OT and then the shootout to decide a sure winner, I had this conversation with some friends of mine. I actually originally thought that was how it was supposed to work and they had to clarify. 

I personally love shootouts only for the excitement of the actual shootout itself (the one-on-one shooter vs. goalie) and not what it represents, and I can understand a team getting a point for taking it past regulation. However, I agree that a "all games worth 3pts" way of scoring would be much better. 

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

Debi_L wrote:
Well, the Sharks won the Shootout, but I agree, I don't like them either, never have.  It reminds me too much of the way kids' sports are played now - everyone wins.

The thing that really irks me the most is the extra point.  Some games are 3 point games an others are 2.  That makes zero sense whatsoever.  All games should be the same total of points.  If you MUST have a shootout then make regulation wins 3 points, SO/OT wins 2, SO/OT losses 1.  Now ALL games are 3 point games.

Still won't like shootouts but at least things will be more fair.

The playoffs don't have them.  Which tells me that the NHL themselves know how worthless their regular season really is.

4/17/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

ML31 wrote:
What is with the rash of outdoor games next year?  I have been hearing that in addition to the Winter Classic in Ann Arbor next year there will be games in Dodger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and BC Place!

Too much of a good thing will make the event less special.  Or am I alone in thinking that?

For once I do agree with you, and said the same thing earlier tonight when I read about this...SIX games?!  Really?!

Someone is going to have to explain to me how they're going to manage that Ducks/Kings game at Dodger Stadium.  The NHL didn't learn from Heinz Field in 2011?

4/17/13   |   Debi_L   |   11868 respect

Well, the Sharks won the Shootout, but I agree, I don't like them either, never have.  It reminds me too much of the way kids' sports are played now - everyone wins.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

Weather the Sharks win or lose this shootout...   Never have been a fan of that tiebreaker and never will. 

4/17/13   |   Jess   |   34925 respect

ML31 wrote:
What is with the rash of outdoor games next year?  I have been hearing that in addition to the Winter Classic in Ann Arbor next year there will be games in Dodger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and BC Place!

Too much of a good thing will make the event less special.  Or am I alone in thinking that?

Not at all - twitter has been full of complaining since they announced it. And I agree...it's ridiculous.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

Ugh...  Sharks have looked good this year only in two brief stints.  Looks like they are back to sucking again.  Or being mediocre at best.   Just coughed up a two goal lead to the Kings. 

Terrible.  Just terrible.

4/17/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

What is with the rash of outdoor games next year?  I have been hearing that in addition to the Winter Classic in Ann Arbor next year there will be games in Dodger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, and BC Place!

Too much of a good thing will make the event less special.  Or am I alone in thinking that?

4/17/13   |   Debi_L   |   11868 respect

I had a tough day at work, came home to watch me some hockey and hang on the Q, and had barely any internet!! That, and no hockey, meant I watched Deadliest Catch.  

Anyhoooo WOW!! I picked almost everything right today! I'm in shock!

4/16/13   |   Scott   |   54136 respect

Canucks/Blues looked more like a playoff game then a regular season one.  

Huge two points for the Blues 

4/16/13   |   Jess   |   34925 respect

Dan_B wrote:
Man, Henrik Lundqvist can be good sometimes.

heart

4/16/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Caps remain on a tear, up 4-0 after two. Now to not give away that lead like Saturday night.

4/16/13   |   Dan_B   |   1067 respect

Man, Henrik Lundqvist can be good sometimes.

4/16/13   |   Jess   |   34925 respect

ML31 wrote:
All you who picked the Kings over the Sharks will regret it.  Sharks have been SO much better at home than the road.

That said, I have to watch this game on the LA station as I am in Long Beach for a Conference.  If the game was in LA I think I would have stuck a crowbar in my wallet and headed up to Staples.
Wish this crappy hotel (cough *westin* cough) got NBCS on their TV's....

meh, I don't tend to regret my picks much when I'm wrong...except when it's Dallas, considering when they win I get a double whammy against me; Dallas wins and my pick is wrong. I never pick the game for my own teams. So, besides that, regardless of who wins as long as it's a good game I really don't care. I never lay money on it cheeky

4/16/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

All you who picked the Kings over the Sharks will regret it.  Sharks have been SO much better at home than the road.

That said, I have to watch this game on the LA station as I am in Long Beach for a Conference.  If the game was in LA I think I would have stuck a crowbar in my wallet and headed up to Staples.
Wish this crappy hotel (cough *westin* cough) got NBCS on their TV's....

4/16/13   |   Sharp Square   |   11945 respect


well done Q peoples , well done yes  


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