Brett Favre Responds To Jay Glazer Story And Report That He Called Lions At Jets Press Conference
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Brett Favre Gives His Side Of The Story, Seems To Almost Admit He's A Complete Traitor

10/22/08 in NFL   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect



Brett Favre decided at his weekly press conference to finally address the report by FoxSport's Jay Glazer that he had called the Lions early in the season to give them tips about what to expect from the Green Bay offense in their upcoming game.

While Favre of course denies Glazer's report, he does give us the rather odd story that during that week Matt Millen invited him on a camping trip. And he also says how Millen asked him about how Favre and the Packers attacked the Lions defense last year, which Favre apparently answered. I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty damn close to being an open admission by Favre that he gave away info to the Lions.

Plus, let's also think about this rationally. You've got Matt Millen, who was in desperate need of a big win in Week 2 against a bitter division rival because it was apparent he was on the verge of getting fired (he was fired a little more than a week later), going on a hunting trip with Favre who was well known to be extremely bitter about being traded away by the Packers. Think that's sheer coincindence? Not in the least. If this was a murder case, Favre would be behind bars already.

It's also ridiculous that Favre says he's forgotten the Packers playbook. He's completely lying. It's often common practice in the NFL that teams pick up players off of waivers to extract as much info from them as they can about the old team they used to play for.

ESPN - which originally banned employees from reporting on Favre - is also finally reporting on the story now as well, but only after Favre finally addressed the media today. Either way, that didn't stop one ESPN personality from weighing in before today. Yesterday, Dan LeBatard said on his ESPN radio show he was completely behind Glazer's story.

Anyway, while we may never be sure if Glazer's story is 100% true, it seems pretty likely at this point that Favre did indeed share something with the Lions.

And it also seems more than apparent that Brett Favre is pretty much always looking out for #1, and no one else.

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10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

beerstudk wrote:
Being a lifelong Seahawks fan and having watched almost every game Alexander played, he was running like a pussy.  He was falling down in the open field instead of taking the hit and you could tell just by watching him play that he was mailing in the effort.  You bring up injuries, well everybody that plays in the NFL has to deal with them, it's a part of the game and just needs to be dealt with and not used as an excuse.  As soon as he got the big contract he quit on the team, and everyone felt bad about it because he's a really good guy not because they were screwing him over.

I also don't think that the Packers neccisarilly wanted Favre to retire, they just wanted him to stay retired once they forced him into that decision.  The Packers had to have concerns about Rodgers, otherwise they would have ousted Favre a couple of years ago.  Rodgers has a lot going against him, for starters he slipped quite a long ways in the draft (he was supposed to be a top 5 pick but fell all the way into the 20's) and no Jeff Tedford coached QB has panned out in the NFL (Akili Smith, AJ Feely, Joey Harrington, Kellen Clemens, Kyle Boller).  It's worked out okay for the Packers so far, but comparing Favre's 16 years in Green Bay to Rodgers' 7 weeks is a pretty big stretch.

alright and your coach said AS i quoted before that the lanes were closing faster than he could run and his SIGNITURE move used to allow people to step in and block and they didnt anymore. Its not entirely his fault that is a TEAM PROBLEM and as far as you being a seahawks fan vs. S Alexander doesnt mean squat. THE FANS turned on him, id hit the ground and not get hurt too. Every game when he took the field after being hurt for your amusement FAns booed him.
regardless i take the coaches outlook before anyone else's. he didnt quit things just werent the same. T.O. is a quitter and an intentional ball dropper (at one point) Alexander was protecting himself for the first time in his career AFTER being hurt NOT protecting himself, but its your biased outlook on YOUR team....who am i to say differant? Well see if your new boys take you to a superbowl...it will take both.

As far as A rodgers is concerned he's doing great....couldnt ask more from him and UNTIL he messes up he is a great QB. Who has stepped into some HUGE shoes and worked his butt off to fill em. I feel just as bad for the QB that has to take Mannings spot.

Im not AGAINST you man, I love convo's like this!! I have taken a lot from this and progressed as a football fan everytime i have a convo like this! I love you guys points on the situation and respect them, im not saying anyone is wrong, im saying "this is MY outlook" the reason i responded at all is because i want to see YOUR outlook my friend!!! Thank you for giving it to me!

10/24/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
in eight NFL seasons, all with the Seahawks, Alexander has rushed for 9,429 yards, which ranks 25th all-time. He has 100 rushing touchdowns (seventh-best all-time) and another 12 TDs receiving. His total of 112 touchdowns is 14th best in NFL history.

Being a lifelong Seahawks fan and having watched almost every game Alexander played, he was running like a pussy.  He was falling down in the open field instead of taking the hit and you could tell just by watching him play that he was mailing in the effort.  You bring up injuries, well everybody that plays in the NFL has to deal with them, it's a part of the game and just needs to be dealt with and not used as an excuse.  As soon as he got the big contract he quit on the team, and everyone felt bad about it because he's a really good guy not because they were screwing him over.

I also don't think that the Packers neccisarilly wanted Favre to retire, they just wanted him to stay retired once they forced him into that decision.  The Packers had to have concerns about Rodgers, otherwise they would have ousted Favre a couple of years ago.  Rodgers has a lot going against him, for starters he slipped quite a long ways in the draft (he was supposed to be a top 5 pick but fell all the way into the 20's) and no Jeff Tedford coached QB has panned out in the NFL (Akili Smith, AJ Feely, Joey Harrington, Kellen Clemens, Kyle Boller).  It's worked out okay for the Packers so far, but comparing Favre's 16 years in Green Bay to Rodgers' 7 weeks is a pretty big stretch.

10/24/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Fair enough.

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

Chief_aka_James wrote:
In simplest terms:

Favre is/was still good, and can still play contending football.
Alexander is not still good, and can't.

Get it yet?

yeah thats why aaron rodgers is doing better as a rookie than favre did last year. Personally i think Alexander still has some Juice in the tank. i think he should have looked out for himself and his career when he originally got hurt and he didnt he looked out for his team and fans.. they then booed him and dropped him to ME thats dirty along with what he gave them.

Given they were upfront with him as was the packers with favre. but acording to your philosphy Favre should have been dropped around 99 when his TD's dropped 30 percent and he ACTUALLY THREW MORE INTERCEPTIONS than TD's and his rushing average was almost as high as his passing.

but wait!!! thats due to changes in the football team its not his fault...neither was it Alexanders!

But thats alright hopefully well see what he does in washington.

ultimately dude i dont even know why were arguing? Its plainly oppinionated and neither will ever win. it might not have been as dirty but to me both were in differant ways

 there is a reason there is a comeback player of the year award.....thats because people have bad seasons and............ comeback

last point, Please do NOT talk down to me with crap like "Get it yet",  notice im saying please, i wouldnt say something like that to you i dont expect you to do it to me. Were having a civil Convo and theres no reason for it. We have BOTH brought up good points but at the end of the day its all an opinion. Theres nothing for ME TO GET, except I dont agree with your opinion.

10/24/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
Both teams (Packers and Seahawks) released them because they were old and they wanted to change their team. BOTH were superstars......Alexander also wanted to finish his career in Seattle. Favre wanted to finish his in GB. Things change but i dont see why the situations arent comparable??

In simplest terms:

Favre is/was still good, and can still play contending football.
Alexander is not still good, and can't.

Get it yet?

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

Both teams (Packers and Seahawks) released them because they were old and they wanted to change their team. BOTH were superstars......Alexander also wanted to finish his career in Seattle. Favre wanted to finish his in GB. Things change but i dont see why the situations arent comparable??

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

in eight NFL seasons, all with the Seahawks, Alexander has rushed for 9,429 yards, which ranks 25th all-time. He has 100 rushing touchdowns (seventh-best all-time) and another 12 TDs receiving. His total of 112 touchdowns is 14th best in NFL history.

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Realize you're own statement...04 and 05 seasons..in 2006, after his MVP season, he got the largest contract for a running back ever.


Any NFL fan with common sense knew even in 05 that his 27 TD's was product to an amazing offensive line and a pretty good QB in Matt Hasselback...Shaun, was never to be put into the category of what Tomlinson is/was, or even then, Larry Johnson. He was not deserving of that money, and once guys like Hutchinson left, and the remaining line started to slack, Alexander's production went to ****.

In 06, Shaun was in 10 games, 252 att, with less than 1000 yards and just 7 touchdowns. In 07, it was 13 games, 207 att with a jaw-dropping 716 yards and 4 TD's.

Yes, I understand what happened after with his broken, then not broken, then broken again foot, and hurt ankle and knee...he cannot help injury. He can, however, help how strong he comes back. Was he just not mentally tough enough to come back from an injury? Yea. It's been already stated above, by a Seahawk fan no less, that the dude was scared to even be touched...

Quick fix, he was not deserving of his 68 million, and lucky for Seattle, its a "what have you done for me lately" league, and if Shaun is too afraid to touch the ball because he might get hurt again, cut him.

Again, he was not "done dirty" by any means -- Alexander just couldn't ball with that team, and Seattle did the smart thing and not waste anymore time or money on him.

"Yeah, it's sad, really," Ruskell said after announcing a move that had been expected in Seattle for six weeks, since the signings of free agent running backs Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett. "He's been such an upstanding guy through my whole tenure here. I don't think we have that Super Bowl run if it wasn't for Shaun.

they even felt bad for it, and admitted he TOOK THEM TO A SUPERBOWL, the SAME AS FAVRE


heres some more of what the guy gave them

He played the final 15 games of the regular season plus January's playoffs wearing a cast on that. (his broken wrist)
That season Alexander set an NFL record with 28 touchdowns and a franchise record with 1,880 yards rushing. Then he severely bruised his left foot while getting tackled in the 2006 opener. He kept playing on it and soon broke it, the first major injury of his football career, and missed six games.

The cutback lanes he used to create began closing on him faster than he could run. His trademark hesitation, which used to deftly set up blocks, suddenly just invited defenders to swarm him in place - and his home fans to boo him. Coach Mike Holmgren said the injuries and Alexander simply having nowhere to run were the reasons for his steep decline.

"This is one of the toughest decisions I'll ever have to make," Ruskell said. "By the same token, you have to be able to make these tough decisions. We wanted to change the dynamic of the running game, from top to bottom."

10/24/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
yeah cause in the 04 and 05 season he was a conference leader with 1696 yards in 04 and 1880 in 05. He got hurt is the only reason he didnt have 6 thousand yard seasons ONE of them being a 120 yard short 2000 yard season. and in those 6 years the only person to score more touchdowns was Ladainian tomlinson.

27 rushing  TD's in 05, a 4.4 yard average, 88 yards long td run.


that guys JUST HORRIBLE...
(Edited by Chief_aka_James)

Realize you're own statement...04 and 05 seasons..in 2006, after his MVP season, he got the largest contract for a running back ever.


Any NFL fan with common sense knew even in 05 that his 27 TD's was product to an amazing offensive line and a pretty good QB in Matt Hasselback...Shaun, was never to be put into the category of what Tomlinson is/was, or even then, Larry Johnson. He was not deserving of that money, and once guys like Hutchinson left, and the remaining line started to slack, Alexander's production went to ****.

In 06, Shaun was in 10 games, 252 att, with less than 1000 yards and just 7 touchdowns. In 07, it was 13 games, 207 att with a jaw-dropping 716 yards and 4 TD's.

Yes, I understand what happened after with his broken, then not broken, then broken again foot, and hurt ankle and knee...he cannot help injury. He can, however, help how strong he comes back. Was he just not mentally tough enough to come back from an injury? Yea. It's been already stated above, by a Seahawk fan no less, that the dude was scared to even be touched...

Quick fix, he was not deserving of his 68 million, and lucky for Seattle, its a "what have you done for me lately" league, and if Shaun is too afraid to touch the ball because he might get hurt again, cut him.

Again, he was not "done dirty" by any means -- Alexander just couldn't ball with that team, and Seattle did the smart thing and not waste anymore time or money on him.

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

beerstudk wrote:
I don't see that Favre is instigating any attention or contact with other NFC North teams.  Most sources are saying that Millen called Favre, not the other way around.  And how can it be cheating if things like this are common place?  Favre and the Packers had a bad break-up and now reporters are blowing a non-issue waaaaaaaay out of context hoping to get a rise out of people.

And Alexander was not "done dirty" by the Seahawks.  They signed him to a huge contract after an MVP season and he then started to play like a pussy.  Falling down before contact, not finishing runs, going out of bounds instead of lowering his head.  He went from averaging 4.6 yards per carry to less than 3 in one season.  With eccentially the same line, Julius Jones is averaging just over 4 yards per carry.  He knew exactly why he was released!!

Your right though, you do have a reason to hear about this.... just don't expect anything to come from it other than some name calling.  In a month nobody will even remember it.

im not saying he instigated THIS, Im saying he KEEPS the media on his butt, he schedules conferences with them and puts his face in the spotlight on purpose, then everyones shocked the media is all over him.

i will remember, point i was trying to make was i was glad this was posted because i wanted to read it and discuss it not read how you wanna attack the writer and EVERYONE who reads this. Kinda went further than i wanted but.....oh well.

10/24/08   |   RobPeyton

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Eww on the Shaun Alexander remark about being "done dirty"...

the dude just plain sucked...

yeah cause in the 04 and 05 season he was a conference leader with 1696 yards in 04 and 1880 in 05. He got hurt is the only reason he didnt have 6 thousand yard seasons ONE of them being a 120 yard short 2000 yard season. and in those 6 years the only person to score more touchdowns was Ladainian tomlinson.

27 rushing  TD's in 05, a 4.4 yard average, 88 yards long td run.


that guys JUST HORRIBLE...

10/24/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Eww on the Shaun Alexander remark about being "done dirty"...

the dude just plain sucked...

10/23/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
the reason i brought up spygate is it Negates your reasoning about "the fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened".

fact of the matter is that Goodell is gonna sweep what he can under the rug to save face and punish the ones he cant save face over. THAT HIS JOB!!!!!!!!

The packers did favre dirty no doubt man. But did favre help? They wanted him to retire because he throws important picks and hes not as good as he used to be. Dont believe that a rookie stepped up and has done just as good a job as he has if not better. FACT!

Players get dropped for less than what hes done. Theyve been traded for less. And those are his EMPLOYERS! IT is a job, if they want someone to step into his place that is THEIR RIGHT! The same way Shaun Alexander got done dirty by his team. Have you seen anything about that?? NO because FAVRE BRINGS IT TO EVERYONES ATTENTION. He puts himself in the spotlight and then wonders why THE PRESS is all over him. He is an attention WH()re. FACT!

Bottom line is if Peyton Manning was to leave the Colts and then call an opponent and give them ANYTHING, I would be horrified, I would Make a New FANIQ page and start over thats how important it is to me that my QB not ATTEMPT to cheat in anyway.

Peyton wouldnt do that, I never thought Favre would thats why i care about this and it bothers me. It makes me question things and i should hear about it is all im saying.

I don't see that Favre is instigating any attention or contact with other NFC North teams.  Most sources are saying that Millen called Favre, not the other way around.  And how can it be cheating if things like this are common place?  Favre and the Packers had a bad break-up and now reporters are blowing a non-issue waaaaaaaay out of context hoping to get a rise out of people.

And Alexander was not "done dirty" by the Seahawks.  They signed him to a huge contract after an MVP season and he then started to play like a pussy.  Falling down before contact, not finishing runs, going out of bounds instead of lowering his head.  He went from averaging 4.6 yards per carry to less than 3 in one season.  With eccentially the same line, Julius Jones is averaging just over 4 yards per carry.  He knew exactly why he was released!!

Your right though, you do have a reason to hear about this.... just don't expect anything to come from it other than some name calling.  In a month nobody will even remember it.

10/23/08   |   RobPeyton

another point, if he gave the info to the JETS, no one would care, he went BEYOND that, He was "talking" to a team that has nothing to do with him, as far as im concerned when you EMPLOY a person you employ them for their Knowledge of your situation. ALL KNOWLEDGE, but the lions didnt employ him making it wrong

10/23/08   |   RobPeyton

beerstudk wrote:
First of all, during Spygate the Pats violated league rules.  Favre and Millen haven't done anything wrong as far as Goodell is concerned.

Secondly, the Packers pretty much forced Favre to retire.  I know that the organization needed to know what Favre was doing so they could move on appropriatly, but given the fact that Favre retired and unretired every 30 seconds in the past he should have been given more time than a couple of weeks after the Superbowl.

Further more, attempting to pay Favre to retire is a pretty crappy and disrespectful thing to do.  Especially to someone that is a cornerstone of your franchise and probably thier greatest player of all time.

Then they launched this "We just want to do right by Brett" campaign which was a total farce.  He can come in and compete for the starting job, but no matter what he'll lose to Rodgers.  If they really wanted to right by him, they should have just released him.  I can understand why they didn't, but they tried as hard as they could to crap all over Favre.

Now I'm not absolving Favre from any blame in the break-up, but it was far from being his fault completely.  You want a comparison that really fits,  the Mitchell Report.  It's getting a lot of attention and heated opinions that turns into name calling, but in the end nothing will come of it and before long will be forgotten about completely.

the reason i brought up spygate is it Negates your reasoning about "the fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened".

fact of the matter is that Goodell is gonna sweep what he can under the rug to save face and punish the ones he cant save face over. THAT HIS JOB!!!!!!!!

The packers did favre dirty no doubt man. But did favre help? They wanted him to retire because he throws important picks and hes not as good as he used to be. Dont believe that a rookie stepped up and has done just as good a job as he has if not better. FACT!

Players get dropped for less than what hes done. Theyve been traded for less. And those are his EMPLOYERS! IT is a job, if they want someone to step into his place that is THEIR RIGHT! The same way Shaun Alexander got done dirty by his team. Have you seen anything about that?? NO because FAVRE BRINGS IT TO EVERYONES ATTENTION. He puts himself in the spotlight and then wonders why THE PRESS is all over him. He is an attention WH()re. FACT!

Bottom line is if Peyton Manning was to leave the Colts and then call an opponent and give them ANYTHING, I would be horrified, I would Make a New FANIQ page and start over thats how important it is to me that my QB not ATTEMPT to cheat in anyway.

Peyton wouldnt do that, I never thought Favre would thats why i care about this and it bothers me. It makes me question things and i should hear about it is all im saying.

10/23/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
his reputation got "trashed" because he started doing things like saying "I'm only Looking out for  Aaron Rodgers", and then trash talked him! Green Bay was dirty, i was one of the first to say so but are they really??

Favre tells them hes retiring soon, so they get a good QB (which no one can deny at this point) and KEEP HIM ON THE BENCH! If I'm a professional athlete i WANNA PLAY!!! Rodgers would have left if they didn't look out for him so Favre retires they tell Aaron YOU WILL BE PLAYING. Favre says "screw that my jersey sales are at the top I'm coming back AT THE LAST MINUTE. Putting green bay in a position where they then had to tell A RODgers, Their FUTURE,  hey favres coming back your back on the bench..... I would have left that team high and dry RIGHT THERE were i A ROD. SO they give both a shot and say they have to tryout for the QB1 Position, Favre would have lost NO MATTER WHAT! He could have played better and still lost. Thus he lands with the Jets. Do i care he did ANYTHING not really, do I care that he acts like one person and shows a completely different? Yes

Can no one understand the position he put his "Team's Future" in??? I would have traded his a$$ too!

oh BTW , "the fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened".

Yeah i guess spy gate was ALL false too? No it held some truth, how much we'll never know same as this situation.

First of all, during Spygate the Pats violated league rules.  Favre and Millen haven't done anything wrong as far as Goodell is concerned.

Secondly, the Packers pretty much forced Favre to retire.  I know that the organization needed to know what Favre was doing so they could move on appropriatly, but given the fact that Favre retired and unretired every 30 seconds in the past he should have been given more time than a couple of weeks after the Superbowl.

Further more, attempting to pay Favre to retire is a pretty crappy and disrespectful thing to do.  Especially to someone that is a cornerstone of your franchise and probably thier greatest player of all time.

Then they launched this "We just want to do right by Brett" campaign which was a total farce.  He can come in and compete for the starting job, but no matter what he'll lose to Rodgers.  If they really wanted to right by him, they should have just released him.  I can understand why they didn't, but they tried as hard as they could to crap all over Favre.

Now I'm not absolving Favre from any blame in the break-up, but it was far from being his fault completely.  You want a comparison that really fits,  the Mitchell Report.  It's getting a lot of attention and heated opinions that turns into name calling, but in the end nothing will come of it and before long will be forgotten about completely.

10/23/08   |   chicachericola   |   2 respect

This is going to set a dangerous precedent. If the NFL is saying Brett talking to Millen is not against the rules, what is stopping this from becoming a widespread tactic? Now i'm sure that over the years that when a player has moved to a new team that they have shared a tidbit of information or two with their new team. But for another coach to call up a player from another team, i'm not sure that happens all that often. Hell i'm sure Jerry Jones is scrounging for every former Bucs and Giants players to get as much of an advantage as he can at the moment and Bilichick is dancing at the 50 yard line thanking god that he has a legitimate (in the eyes of the NFL anyways) way to cheat.

Also, the executives and coaches for the Jets can't be too happy about this either. Didn't they put some sort of exclusivity clause in his contract? That is what confuses me about this whole thing. You would think that: A) When Farve left the Packers he had to sign oodles and oodles of papers that prohibited this specific situation and B) When Farve joined the Jets he had to sign oodles and oodles of papers to prevent this specific situation. Both sides have something to lose here, and if I were the Jets, i'd be pissed off that the person coming out smelling like roses is of all people the Lions. I would not want my QB, or any player for that matter, talking to any other team for any other reason other than a how's the family and kids kind of conversation.

10/23/08   |   RobPeyton

beerstudk wrote:
I'm really not mad, I'm more dumbfounded that this is becoming such a big issue.  I don't see anything good or bad coming from this.  The fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened.

And I don't see how Favre's reputation has been trashed, the Packers were every bit as crappy to Brett as he's been with them lately.  He gave Green Bay 16 Hall-of-Fame seasons and doesn't owe them a damn thing.

his reputation got "trashed" because he started doing things like saying "I'm only Looking out for  Aaron Rodgers", and then trash talked him! Green Bay was dirty, i was one of the first to say so but are they really??

Favre tells them hes retiring soon, so they get a good QB (which no one can deny at this point) and KEEP HIM ON THE BENCH! If I'm a professional athlete i WANNA PLAY!!! Rodgers would have left if they didn't look out for him so Favre retires they tell Aaron YOU WILL BE PLAYING. Favre says "screw that my jersey sales are at the top I'm coming back AT THE LAST MINUTE. Putting green bay in a position where they then had to tell A RODgers, Their FUTURE,  hey favres coming back your back on the bench..... I would have left that team high and dry RIGHT THERE were i A ROD. SO they give both a shot and say they have to tryout for the QB1 Position, Favre would have lost NO MATTER WHAT! He could have played better and still lost. Thus he lands with the Jets. Do i care he did ANYTHING not really, do I care that he acts like one person and shows a completely different? Yes

Can no one understand the position he put his "Team's Future" in??? I would have traded his a$$ too!

oh BTW , "the fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened".

Yeah i guess spy gate was ALL false too? No it held some truth, how much we'll never know same as this situation.

10/22/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
yeah you did...


and its such a nonstory you were (editing) cussing left and right, point is the media got what they wanted....you got mad....no matter what theyre "nonstory" got a reaction which is what news people look for.....making it duh duh duh duh a STORY. I actually have a post on my page taking up for farve. I wasnt a "hater" until everything i thought about that man went into the trash this year. And yes i DO enjoy the downfall now meaning I DO want to hear about this stuff wether it happens or not as a fan I HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW..

I'm really not mad, I'm more dumbfounded that this is becoming such a big issue.  I don't see anything good or bad coming from this.  The fact that no two renditions of the story match up to one-another tells me that nothing much really happened.

And I don't see how Favre's reputation has been trashed, the Packers were every bit as crappy to Brett as he's been with them lately.  He gave Green Bay 16 Hall-of-Fame seasons and doesn't owe them a damn thing.

10/22/08   |   lozone9

I'm not sure if Farve called Millen or Millen called Farve, nor do I care.  What I think is funny is that people call him a traitor. He doesn't play for the Packers any longer and therefore is not bound to be loyal to them. Next thing you know, If Brett plays the Packers and beats them, people will call him a traitor for winning the game! Come on People!!

10/22/08   |   uptown7010

Once your team decide not to bring you back against you wanting to be there how much loyalty can you really have for them? I don't know about anyone else, I wouldn't go out of my way but to hell with the team that doesn't want me back, especially if I don't have to play them anytime soon. Brett may already be retired by the time the Jets play The Packers so who really cares?

10/22/08   |   RobPeyton

yeah you did...


and its such a nonstory you were (editing) cussing left and right, point is the media got what they wanted....you got mad....no matter what theyre "nonstory" got a reaction which is what news people look for.....making it duh duh duh duh a STORY. I actually have a post on my page taking up for farve. I wasnt a "hater" until everything i thought about that man went into the trash this year. And yes i DO enjoy the downfall now meaning I DO want to hear about this stuff wether it happens or not as a fan I HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW..

10/22/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

RobPeyton wrote:
Your really worked up about this aren't you??

but here's the thing Glazer is right more than anyone else, he scoops things before anyone else, and if you DON'T think that espn works with THE PEOPLE WHO BASICLY CREATED THEM and keep them employed, and allow them to merchandise off of them, you are extremely naive.

I respect Brett Favre's ability to lead a team, I dont respect the way he treated Aaron Rodgers, and the Packers fans. The team deserved everything they got! But the fans???? I dont think so..

Your right everyone does things like this, thing is had Favre retired you would have never heard of this. If Favre didnt hold his weekly Press conferences and PUT HIMSELF INTO THE MEDIA the media would have nothing.

Did he do anything wrong according to rules?? Not at all. But for someone who has all these friends at Green Bay, he sure doesnt mind screwing them over. Wanna know whats Hippocritical?? How about saying you have all this respect for your rookie QB and then trying to shaft him?? Or telling everyone you love a team and its members and then giving away ANYTHING. LOOK IT UP Favre is the definition of hippocrit.

Why would anyone who hates him jump on his rooster?? The point of this, as you missed it. IS TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE THINKS OF HIM AS "how great a player and a person he was and how much he meant to the Green Bay Packers and the NFL. "

Your "RANT" makes no sense, freedom of speech so the writers can report on ANYTHING they want, and say what they want. The act is, in fact, a "nonstory" but the man is the story...how did you miss that? its not about the secrets....its about a man who "played" everyone into thinking he was caring and looked out for the rookies and was soooooo loyal and is in fact a LIAR...get over it

I know it doesn't seem like it after my so called "rant".... but I've been over it since about 9:45 am Pacific time last Sunday, which was about 2 min after Glazer "broke" the story in the first place.  Based on the fact that no 2 sources can agree on how any of this went down and that bad splits are fairly common place, this really is a nonstory and it only seems that only the anti-Favre people are talking about it..... because it's a nonstory.

Even Ice Cube and Easy-E made nice after a time, I don't see how it won't be any different between Favre and the Packers.  All this will be swept under the rug or forgotten about in time, just like steroids.  This is not a career or legacy defining moment for Favre... it's a nonstory no matter how it's spun.

Did I mention that it's a nonstory?!?

10/22/08   |   dwyermaker   |   39 respect

I find it interesting that video-taping an opponent in public in the NFL during a game is against the rules (ie, the Pats), but that a jaded player can basically give away the playbook on his old team with no repercussions... If I were Goodell I would suspend Favre for one game, make him go back to Lambeau on that Sunday and hold Aaron Rodgers' clipboard for the entire game while wearing an  Aaron Rodgers jersey and one of those cheese-head hats...

10/22/08   |   RobPeyton

no doubt derms!

10/22/08   |   derms33   |   17645 respect

I personally have no problem with Favre...stick it to your former employer...a lot of us wish we could!

10/22/08   |   RobPeyton

beerstudk wrote:
I don't understand why this story is such a big deal.... I mean, everybody says that things like this happen all the time.  So who really gives a s***?  And when Favre does retire in 2021, nobody will be talking about this.  Everybody, Favre fans and haters alike will jump on his d*** like it was a life-boat during the sinking of the Titanic talking about how great a player and a person he was and how much he meant to the Green Bay Packers and the NFL.  So all this talk about "Jay Glazer is always right" and "ESPN is a facist, propagandist sports reporting agency that plays favorites" and "Favre is a piece of crap because he gave away information about is former team even though it's common practice" and "Favre really wanted to go to Millen's house so the Lions could download his brain onto a computer so they could devise the Packers game plan" is really a pile of hippocratic crap.

Maybe, just maybe, it's really as much of a nonstory as everyone involved says it is.

Your really worked up about this aren't you??

but here's the thing Glazer is right more than anyone else, he scoops things before anyone else, and if you DON'T think that espn works with THE PEOPLE WHO BASICLY CREATED THEM and keep them employed, and allow them to merchandise off of them, you are extremely naive.

I respect Brett Favre's ability to lead a team, I dont respect the way he treated Aaron Rodgers, and the Packers fans. The team deserved everything they got! But the fans???? I dont think so..

Your right everyone does things like this, thing is had Favre retired you would have never heard of this. If Favre didnt hold his weekly Press conferences and PUT HIMSELF INTO THE MEDIA the media would have nothing.

Did he do anything wrong according to rules?? Not at all. But for someone who has all these friends at Green Bay, he sure doesnt mind screwing them over. Wanna know whats Hippocritical?? How about saying you have all this respect for your rookie QB and then trying to shaft him?? Or telling everyone you love a team and its members and then giving away ANYTHING. LOOK IT UP Favre is the definition of hippocrit.

Why would anyone who hates him jump on his rooster?? The point of this, as you missed it. IS TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE THINKS OF HIM AS "how great a player and a person he was and how much he meant to the Green Bay Packers and the NFL. "

Your "RANT" makes no sense, freedom of speech so the writers can report on ANYTHING they want, and say what they want. The act is, in fact, a "nonstory" but the man is the story...how did you miss that? its not about the secrets....its about a man who "played" everyone into thinking he was caring and looked out for the rookies and was soooooo loyal and is in fact a LIAR...get over it

10/22/08   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

(Edited by Boski93)

Wait Favre was talking to Millen, oh this case is closed.

Looking at how Millen ran the Lions shows even if Brett gave Millen the call sheet, tapped the Packers coordinators booth and even if 2/3's of the team had been eaten by wolves, Millen would have found a way to screw it up and the Lions would have lost by 40. Matt Millen was the Schleprock of NFL GM's.

The facts don't lie, even the one I make up.

10/22/08   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

"I haven't been in that offense for over a year"

Further proof that Brett Favre is a liar. His last game for the Packers was January 12, 2008. Today is October 22, 2008. Anyone who thinks that is over a year is insane.

10/22/08   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

I don't understand why this story is such a big deal.... I mean, everybody says that things like this happen all the time.  So who really gives a s***?  And when Favre does retire in 2021, nobody will be talking about this.  Everybody, Favre fans and haters alike will jump on his d*** like it was a life-boat during the sinking of the Titanic talking about how great a player and a person he was and how much he meant to the Green Bay Packers and the NFL.  So all this talk about "Jay Glazer is always right" and "ESPN is a facist, propagandist sports reporting agency that plays favorites" and "Favre is a piece of crap because he gave away information about is former team even though it's common practice" and "Favre really wanted to go to Millen's house so the Lions could download his brain onto a computer so they could devise the Packers game plan" is really a pile of hippocratic crap.

Maybe, just maybe, it's really as much of a nonstory as everyone involved says it is.

10/22/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Considering they just lost to the Raiders, I think he has reason to worry.

I hate to remind myself of this; but Chiefs also lost to the Raiders, at home, 23-8...

10/22/08   |   kantwistaye   |   4214 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Later in his press conference, he went on to say that the only thing he is worrying about right now is beating the Chiefs on Sunday....

...Now you know he's a liar.


(Yea, I can make fun of myself/my team too...)

Considering they just lost to the Raiders, I think he has reason to worry.

10/22/08   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Later in his press conference, he went on to say that the only thing he is worrying about right now is beating the Chiefs on Sunday....

...Now you know he's a liar.


(Yea, I can make fun of myself/my team too...)