Video-Devean George Forgets He's Devean George - YouTube | NBA | Dallas Mavericks

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(Edited 02/14/08 12:26PM by Eric)
kantwistaye wrote:

The funny this is the only way George can actually use his Bird rights, is he re-signs with the Mavs. Think the Mavs really want to re-sign him if he pulls this stunt?

I agree. I don't think the Mavs will resign him now. I was watching his 0-11 performance and saw him miss his first 2 free throws and said to a friend, sarcastically, "Well, we just locked him up for another year!" The only reason I can logically think of for the Mavs to keep him would be for his defense. I'm still not sure why Dallas insists on playing defense. Every time we try to play defense we lose, when we try to out score the opponent we win most of the time. Ok, back on topic.

George has finally pissed the Dallas fan base off. He used to be one of those guys we could learn to like whether we wanted to or not. Now he has officially ruined it for himself, his team, and his fans. In high school we had a saying. "Don't embarrass yourself, your family, or the ~~Wylie Pirates~~ Dallas Mavericks." In one fell swoop George has done it all.

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Looks like Devean picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

The next fortune cookie Devean cracks open should have the following message,

"Tiny contracts for those of tiny talent"

or

"The D League is in your future"

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(Edited 02/14/08 12:44PM by CriticalFanatic)
RenegadeLG wrote:

And as far as being a bad player, I don't buy that at all. Before the drama-filled 0/11 effort he was one of the better all-around shooters on the team. He crashes the boards and takes care of the ball. I hated him as a Laker, but think he's a good player.

At 36% FG would indicate he's, in fact, not one of the best shooters on the team.

He was good for some spot up threes on those Lakers teams, and now that's all he can cling to.

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George is one of those players that's not limited to the jumper. That's about it. He plays defense well, usually. If he needs to shoot the 3, nobody's saying "Oh gosh, here's a miss" like they would if Brandon Bass would have taken that same shot.

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Ryan wrote:

Ha ha. Good commentary.

The true travesty here is that someone would actually allow Devean George to have a no-trade clause written into his contract. The only reason you sign a dude like this is to round him up with three other similar dudes and trade them to get one dude in return that can actually play. Oops.

Kobe is the only player in the league with a specific no-trade clause in his contract, league rules dictate that players on a one-year contract -- but who are also eligible for Early Bird free-agent rights at the end of the contract -- cannot be traded without their consent. The Bird rights basically give the teams the ability to sign George to a contract that would take them over the salary cap, and if he is traded he loses those rights, and therefore lose that more than likely huge pay day this summer.

There is the abridged version of what I put last night.

Basically, George wants to get paid big time this summer and since teams can sign him to a big pay day over the Salary Cap, he is more likely to be a "big time" free agent this summer since he is a vet that could fill a role on some contending team.

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RenegadeLG wrote:

Only the team that trades for him retains his Bird rights and can go over the cap to sign him. Otherwise he gets whatever the market deems he's worth. Which is probably not much.

Only Dallas has the Bird rights. If he's traded to New Jersey he loses those.

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RenegadeLG wrote:

Not the case.

Yea it is man.

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RenegadeLG wrote:

Then he has Early Bird rights. Because straight up Bird Rights transfer on the original contract no matter when or where you're traded. And I still don't get his veto, because Dallas isn't going to re-sign him.

Yeah they are Early Bird rights.

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Eric wrote:

I agree. I don't think the Mavs will resign him now. I was watching his 0-11 performance and saw him miss his first 2 free throws and said to a friend, sarcastically, "Well, we just locked him up for another year!" The only reason I can logically think of for the Mavs to keep him would be for his defense. I'm still not sure why Dallas insists on playing defense. Every time we try to play defense we lose, when we try to out score the opponent we win most of the time. Ok, back on topic.

George has finally pissed the Dallas fan base off. He used to be one of those guys we could learn to like whether we wanted to or not. Now he has officially ruined it for himself, his team, and his fans. In high school we had a saying. "Don't embarrass yourself, your family, or the ~~Wylie Pirates~~ Dallas Mavericks." In one fell swoop George has done it all.

Are you serious dude??? You think trading Devin Harris and Stack for Kidd is a good move? Kidd is 146 years old and Harris is finally starting to come around. Don't you think that the Mavs would be better off to hang on to Harris and win three or four titles over the next 6 years instead of winning one title this year andthen burying Kidd in the backyard??

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All i have to say is, Devean who? LOL

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(Edited 02/16/08 9:02PM by Eric)
SwampThang wrote:

Are you serious dude??? You think trading Devin Harris and Stack for Kidd is a good move? Kidd is 146 years old and Harris is finally starting to come around. Don't you think that the Mavs would be better off to hang on to Harris and win three or four titles over the next 6 years instead of winning one title this year andthen burying Kidd in the backyard??

I say WIN NOW!... We were in the finals 2 years ago, and we choked. Obviously we need more experience running the plays. With Kidd and Terry in the backcourt, how can we fail? Yes, if the theory was to win over the next 10 years... then keep Diop and Harris. Obviously Cuban wants to win now. Otherwise he wouldn't give up both Diop and Harris.

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Eric wrote:

I say WIN NOW!... We were in the finals 2 years ago, and we choked. Obviously we need more experience running the plays. With Kidd and Terry in the backcourt, how can we fail? Yes, if the theory was to win over the next 10 years... then keep Diop and Harris. Obviously Cuban wants to win now. Otherwise he wouldn't give up both Diop and Harris.

OK...How do you feel about the trade now??

Kidd appears to have not been the saviour Dallas was looking for and now Avery is gone.

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SwampThang wrote:

OK...How do you feel about the trade now??

Kidd appears to have not been the saviour Dallas was looking for and now Avery is gone.

I still like the trade. Harris is a scrub, and always will be. With Harris out of the picture, we'll be able to work out the other PGs. Barea, and co.

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Eric wrote:

I still like the trade. Harris is a scrub, and always will be. With Harris out of the picture, we'll be able to work out the other PGs. Barea, and co.

Since when does 14 points and 6 assists from your PG make him a scrub? Oh, thats right never. It was a historically awful trade and Dallas will continue to regret for many many years.

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kantwistaye wrote:

Since when does 14 points and 6 assists from your PG make him a scrub? Oh, thats right never. It was a historically awful trade and Dallas will continue to regret for many many years.

I'm still not regretting it. Which part of Dallas do you live in? Oh, that's right!

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Eric wrote:

I'm still not regretting it. Which part of Dallas do you live in? Oh, that's right!

Where you live in Dallas should have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you like the trade. I actually live just north east of Plano and have season tickets in the Platinum club level for the Mavericks and Stars. I tend to agree with the young Laker fan from WI. It was a bad trade. Kidd did absolutely nothing for us and may have two years left on his old a$$ to give us....MAYBE. Besides that George was not the Devon in this trade that made it completely stupid on the part of Mark Cuban. He dropped Devon Harris and 2 first round picks to get a washed up ready to retire PG that did nothing to once again keep us from advancing past the first round.

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SwampThang wrote:

Where you live in Dallas should have absolutely no bearing on whether or not you like the trade. I actually live just north east of Plano and have season tickets in the Platinum club level for the Mavericks and Stars. I tend to agree with the young Laker fan from WI. It was a bad trade. Kidd did absolutely nothing for us and may have two years left on his old a$$ to give us....MAYBE. Besides that George was not the Devon in this trade that made it completely stupid on the part of Mark Cuban. He dropped Devon Harris and 2 first round picks to get a washed up ready to retire PG that did nothing to once again keep us from advancing past the first round.

I live in Plano... Therefor I'm actually closer :P... I still think it was a good deal, but I guess I don't really care anymore.

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Eric wrote:

I live in Plano... Therefor I'm actually closer :P... I still think it was a good deal, but I guess I don't really care anymore.

Oh, and a sidenote... Royse City is directly East... if not South East of Plano.

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Eric wrote:

Oh, and a sidenote... Royse City is directly East... if not South East of Plano.

You would be correct. Royce City proper is actually South East of Plano. I do not actually live in Royse City proper. I am in Royse City by post office address only. My physical address is located just south of Hwy 6 in Nevada which would in fact put me just north east of Plano as I stated previously. Thanks for pointing that out though.

Apparently both of our profiles lie since yours says you live in Wylie and you claim to live in Plano and mine says I live in Royse City and I claim to live north east of Plano.....dang the bad luck.

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Thanks for the geography lesson guys. I've always wanted to know about the greater Dallas area.

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Jubanator14 wrote:

Thanks for the geography lesson guys. I've always wanted to know about the greater Dallas area.

Anytime pal.....I just always love it when someone that doesn't know me wants to try and tell me where I live. Had to go off. I apologize.

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SwampThang wrote:

You would be correct. Royce City proper is actually South East of Plano. I do not actually live in Royse City proper. I am in Royse City by post office address only. My physical address is located just south of Hwy 6 in Nevada which would in fact put me just north east of Plano as I stated previously. Thanks for pointing that out though.

Apparently both of our profiles lie since yours says you live in Wylie and you claim to live in Plano and mine says I live in Royse City and I claim to live north east of Plano.....dang the bad luck.

LOL, yeah. I moved to Plano 2 years ago, and haven't changed my profile yet... /sigh

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SwampThang wrote:

Anytime pal.....I just always love it when someone that doesn't know me wants to try and tell me where I live. Had to go off. I apologize.

You stated where you lived, it was just incorrect. I was actually going to guess Lavon, Parker County, Nevada area before I read your profile.

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SwampThang wrote:

Anytime pal.....I just always love it when someone that doesn't know me wants to try and tell me where I live. Had to go off. I apologize.

Wow, if that's going off... You have a lot to learn about this site, bud. LOL

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Oh, and I wouldn't call that just NE of Plano either. HWY 6 is quite a bit of a drive.

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Eric wrote:

You stated where you lived, it was just incorrect. I was actually going to guess Lavon, Parker County, Nevada area before I read your profile.

I never said Royse City on this thread man. Go back and read the original comment that you responded to.

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I guess it depends on where in Plano you are. I am less than 20 minutes from my brother's house which is in East Plano and it really is only a heckuva drive because you have to go south to get around the lake.

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(Edited 06/09/08 6:08AM by Eric)
SwampThang wrote:

I guess it depends on where in Plano you are. I am less than 20 minutes from my brother's house which is in East Plano and it really is only a heckuva drive because you have to go south to get around the lake.

Well, I read your profile before you said where you lived. So, technically you did (like me) say where you lived. It was just a bit misleading. This is what I read "Larry
Royse City, TX
Male 37 years old"

Also, I live in East Plano. I live right off of 14th street and 544

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