Horse Loses Jockey, Wins Race Anyway
Horse Racing, BCS

Horse Wins Race Without Jockey... And That's Why Horse Racing Isn't A Sport.

6/21/09 in Horse Racing   |   Pat   |   5232 respect


I've said before that horse racing isn't a sport. That's still the case. My argument is that the horses are the real "athletes". The most popular rebuttal is that the jockeys are the athletes, and the horse couldn't win without their jockey.

Well, a horse named Phone Jazz proved me right at Belmont Park yesterday, as jockey Jean-Luc Samyn fell off right out the gate, and Phone Jazz finished first by 7 lengths without a jockey.

Well... there you have it, folks. Horse racing is nothing but a picnic with some cool scenery (horses running by). Bet on it, have fun with it, and don't let me rain on your parade. Just don't try to tell me that it's a sport.


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7/19/09   |   ponielvr

i love horses

7/17/09   |   gangstagranny

Who do you think the athlete is in a horse race the JOCKEY !!!!!!

7/13/09   |   themostdef20

arivmn6043 wrote:
Horse racing is a sport. The jockey fell off. The horse and the jokey's work hard on that stuff, like all other sports, so stick that your juice box and suck it!

yes it is

7/10/09   |   ITALY_FAN

Pat wrote:
Then what was making this horse go?

i agree if the guy falls off at the gate then based on what you say he shouldnt have stopped
once again is a sport but jockys not needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/10/09   |   ITALY_FAN

jjmund1 wrote:
If no jockys are needed how do you make the horse go? and you dont allways smack the horse with a stick,  when i ride AQHA, i use spurs, some jockys do the same. It takes a lot of upper and lower body strength to ride a horse. upper to controll the horses head, and lower to move your horse from side to side.

ya do you relly want some one on top of you jacking you in the side with his/her feet

7/1/09   |   pmrangika

when jokey is not there it's horse racing.when jokey is on the horse.it's man and horse racing

6/29/09   |   stargirllunde

horse racing is a sport no matter what anyone says.

6/27/09   |   lelamay40

I think that is cool

6/25/09   |   jjmund1

Pat wrote:
But the jockey was gone. So... just food? Sorry... not a sport.

also the horses determination to win the race. The horse goes under alot of training for even the simplest race/show, so the horse and rider can do its best at all times.

6/25/09   |   arivmn6043

Horse racing is a sport. The jockey fell off. The horse and the jokey's work hard on that stuff, like all other sports, so stick that your juice box and suck it!

6/23/09   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

jjmund1 wrote:
food, and the JOCKY!!!!

But the jockey was gone. So... just food? Sorry... not a sport.

6/23/09   |   jjmund1

Pat wrote:
Then what was making this horse go?

food, and the JOCKY!!!!

6/23/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

Pat wrote:
Then what was making this horse go?

Food at the end of the race, I'll bet. Or some horses just naturally like to race, they race each other in the wild. Or finally it could be that training actually stuck in this horse's mind and it knew it needed to get to the finish, with or without the jockey.

6/23/09   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

jjmund1 wrote:
If no jockys are needed how do you make the horse go? and you dont allways smack the horse with a stick,  when i ride AQHA, i use spurs, some jockys do the same. It takes a lot of upper and lower body strength to ride a horse. upper to controll the horses head, and lower to move your horse from side to side.

Then what was making this horse go?

6/23/09   |   jjmund1

ITALY_FAN wrote:
thats truly what it is a guy on top of a horse whipin it when he doesnt need to be on him! horse racing is a sport but no idiot should be up on it while its trying to work! NO JOCKYS ARE NEEDED!!!!1!!!

If no jockys are needed how do you make the horse go? and you dont allways smack the horse with a stick,  when i ride AQHA, i use spurs, some jockys do the same. It takes a lot of upper and lower body strength to ride a horse. upper to controll the horses head, and lower to move your horse from side to side.

6/22/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

ITALY_FAN wrote:
it is somethin people love to do for fun you total kill joy

Well don't you think that is the same reason people place bets on horse races?  For the fun.  Many people are there because they have a financial interest in the horses and the jockeys that ride them.  Which if you don't get it means they have part ownership in the horse or the jockey or both.  They believe it to be a sport just as an owner of a a football, baseball, basketball team. . .etc.  Not a gambling extraveganza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6/22/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

wrote:
HORSE RACING isn't a SPORT? wanna bet???

Sure, I'll take a $2 quinella.

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:
Why does everybody gamble and put bets out on major league sports.  That is done as well and it's still considered a sport.

it is somethin people love to do for fun you total kill joy

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

jjmund1 wrote:
If you have ever tried horse racing you would know how hard it is, both the horse and the jockey have to come together and work as a team

i dont need to try it if i think i dont need to be like some other idot jockey and look like an ass while ridin a horse
let me refer you to my other comment look at the ones with the giant smilly faces!

6/22/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

jjmund1 wrote:
If you have ever tried horse racing you would know how hard it is, both the horse and the jockey have to come together and work as a team

my sentiments exactly.  But if others don't agree that is OK.  I love the horses best anyway.

6/22/09   |   jjmund1

If you have ever tried horse racing you would know how hard it is, both the horse and the jockey have to come together and work as a team

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

maddiedripdropgirl67 wrote:
why is horse racing not a sport

horse racing is a sport but the horses are the ones racing! jockys get to much praise! like i said before its like running in the olympics while giving someone a piggyback ride and then the guy who sat on top gets all the praise!

6/22/09   |   maddiedripdropgirl67

why is horse racing not a sport

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:

Man have you got that right.  I'm tired of it.  Everyone can have their own opinion about anything and it doesn't help as you punned "To beat a Dead Horse".  I love all of you and let's just agree that we don't have to agree with eachother.  Cool?

alright im cool wi that

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

ITALY_FAN wrote:
seriously i agree but its kind of different because you need the driver to drive the car but you don't need some guy to sit on top of it in a rubber suit and smack it with a stick
(Edited by ITALY_FAN)

thats truly what it is a guy on top of a horse whipin it when he doesnt need to be on him! horse racing is a sport but no idiot should be up on it while its trying to work! NO JOCKYS ARE NEEDED!!!!1!!!

6/22/09   |   ITALY_FAN

BluDevil wrote:
NASCAR drivers have to be in pretty good shape to drive their cars too, but still the car is doing most of the work just as the horse is doing most of the work in a race.
(Edited by ITALY_FAN)

seriously i agree but its kind of different because you need the driver to drive the car but you don't need some guy to sit on top of it in a rubber suit and smack it with a stick

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

wrote:
Way too funny, Pat. Talk about beating a DEAD HORSE, so to speak.....

Man have you got that right.  I'm tired of it.  Everyone can have their own opinion about anything and it doesn't help as you punned "To beat a Dead Horse".  I love all of you and let's just agree that we don't have to agree with eachother.  Cool?

6/21/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:
I will agree there that jockeys, drivers, pitchers, infielders, outfielders, QB's, offensemen and defensemen, etc. do all need to be in excellent shape to aquire the skills and training required to achieve a win.  Yes the horse does most of the work as well as the race car, but I still have my opinion to considering horse racing a sport.  Is Nascar racing not considered a sport??????

I personally don't consider NASCAR to be a sport, but I don't consider golf, bowling, darts, etc. to be sports either. They are activities, games, what have you. But not sports in the sense that baseball, basketball, football, soccer, boxing, etc. are sports.

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

BluDevil wrote:
NASCAR drivers have to be in pretty good shape to drive their cars too, but still the car is doing most of the work just as the horse is doing most of the work in a race.
(Edited by Gods_Servant_77)

I will agree there that jockeys, drivers, pitchers, infielders, outfielders, QB's, offensemen and defensemen, etc. do all need to be in excellent shape to aquire the skills and training required to achieve a win.  Yes the horse does most of the work as well as the race car, but I still have my opinion to considering horse racing a sport.  Is Nascar racing not considered a sport??????

6/21/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:
How do you think they stay so thin and can stay on these great animals at afull gallop?  Have you ever ridden a horse of that size at a full run?  I have and it wears you out.  You have to be physically conditioned and in excellent shape to compete as a jockey DUDE.

NASCAR drivers have to be in pretty good shape to drive their cars too, but still the car is doing most of the work just as the horse is doing most of the work in a race.

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

ITALY_FAN wrote:
seriously you honestly think jockys train as hard? dude how much training do you need to sit on a horse

How do you think they stay so thin and can stay on these great animals at afull gallop?  Have you ever ridden a horse of that size at a full run?  I have and it wears you out.  You have to be physically conditioned and in excellent shape to compete as a jockey DUDE.

6/21/09   |   ITALY_FAN

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:
Do you know how much time and energy is spent preparing a horse and a jocky for this SPORT. They train every day just as hard if not harder than your NFL,NBA, NHL, etc athletes. It is a sport. It just happens that there are 2 athletes competing for the same outcome.

seriously you honestly think jockys train as hard? dude how much training do you need to sit on a horse

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

Why does everybody gamble and put bets out on major league sports.  That is done as well and it's still considered a sport.

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

Plus I don't gamble or believe it is right.

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

Pat wrote:
The jockeys do not train harder than NFL/NBA/NHL athletes. Period. That is simply a ridiculous statement, with no factual basis whatsoever.

And no, horse racing is not a sport. It is, like BluDevil said, an excuse to gamble. No more, no less.

I beg your pardon,  I know for a fact what is done and do have the basis to prove my point.  My brother is an equine vet and oversees some of the greatest thoroughbreds in Kentucky, Floriday, New York, Scotland, Ireland. . .etc and I have seen what they go through to train.  So put that in you pipe and smoke it.

6/21/09   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

Gods_Servant_77 wrote:
Do you know how much time and energy is spent preparing a horse and a jocky for this SPORT. They train every day just as hard if not harder than your NFL,NBA, NHL, etc athletes. It is a sport. It just happens that there are 2 athletes competing for the same outcome.

The jockeys do not train harder than NFL/NBA/NHL athletes. Period. That is simply a ridiculous statement, with no factual basis whatsoever.

And no, horse racing is not a sport. It is, like BluDevil said, an excuse to gamble. No more, no less.

6/21/09   |   BluDevil   |   618 respect

The horse wins, in large measure, because it isn't carrying the weight of the jockey so it can run faster. And who cares if it is a sport or not a sport? It's still a great excuse to gamble.

6/21/09   |   Gods_Servant_77

Do you know how much time and energy is spent preparing a horse and a jocky for this SPORT. They train every day just as hard if not harder than your NFL,NBA, NHL, etc athletes. It is a sport. It just happens that there are 2 athletes competing for the same outcome.

6/21/09   |   ITALY_FAN

relly what do we have jockys for anyway i mean its like running track while giving somone a piggyback ride

6/21/09   |   mk_donley   |   2554 respect

O.K.guys, PQ me; that is a horrible joke. I am just not a good comedian. Bad joke Donley, bad! *smacking himself*

6/21/09   |   mk_donley   |   2554 respect

Mack: (to meyer showing him newspaper) "Unbelieveable; some moron wrote here that horses are athletes."
Meyer: "He's right. They are athletes. What's your problem?"
Mack: "Well. if they're athletes, how come they are not wearing track shorts and sneakers?"

6/21/09   |   Boomhaur   |   1 respect

the horse was the only smart one to shed a fast 75 pound or so of course he won. ya it's not a sport its called entertainment.

6/21/09   |   williammcdaniel

I agree with you that it is the horse that is the true athlete here but like in any sport we have props to use, bats, clubs, cars, boats and of course Jockeys.