Mark Dantonio Just A Little Angry With Michigan's Post Game Actions

11/7/07 in NCAAF   |   CriticalFanatic   |   respect



I watched this Mark Dantonio post-press conference roundtable on Monday afternoon and thought nothing of it from a national perspective. I was pumped to see the Spartans head coach take a loss personally, refuse to accept losing to Michigan as part of the MSU culture and refuse to tolerate a team openly mocking them on their own field.

If I were a UM alumn, I'd have been embarrassed with the way they handled themselves after the win. They're better than that and deserved to be called out by somebody.

Oddly, this has turned into a national story with many bloggers mocking Coach Dantonio. Certainly, I'm a little biased here but don't you want to see this kind of fire from your head coach? Football is a violent sport and in order to make up for Bobby Williams and John L Smith's delinquencies it's refreshing to see the kind of anger and venom spewed towards Ann Arbor.

Was Dantonio out of line here or is this coach speak that you'd like to see?
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11/9/07   |   mwillie1   |   19 respect

Personally, I am glad we finally have a coach that admits he hates Michigan and is tired of the MSU program losing to them.  I wish more coaches would tell it like it is instead of using all the cliches and giving the answers the media wants.

11/8/07   |   Marshall

CriticalFanatic wrote:
(Spartan - to - Spartan) Lets remember the only game they've lost this season have all been by 7 points or less. Still not good, but they're not far off.

Dantonio is having the same type win loss year as John L but the difference is scary.(especially to a Michigan fan) Theres no quiting this year, no folding it in. Yes they are losing but its mostly lackluster talent. When Dantonio gets some actual Big Ten caliber football players on that team they will be right there in that second tier of the conference with Wisconsin and PSU in my opinion.

To back up my talent point take a look at who the starting O-line was recruited by other then MSU. Theres only 1 guy who got recruited by another BCS school. The rest are mostly Buffalo and Toledo. John L really left this program in shambles.

11/8/07   |   Marshall

CriticalFanatic wrote:
Fair. The only thing that's factually incorrect is ... "The time clock which he admitted referred to the 2001 game."

That's not true at all. It wouldn't make any sense if it was. He put the clock in the locker room to add some importance to the Michigan game which was lost when JLS was coaching. It was put their for motivation and focus so that everyone is reminded what they're working for every second of the day.

Nope he did admit in a radio interview the reason he chose the time clock was in reference to MSU's last victory in the series.

11/7/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

CriticalFanatic wrote:
(Spartan - to - Spartan) Lets remember the only game they've lost this season have all been by 7 points or less. Still not good, but they're not far off.

As our beloved Zooker said about reviving a program, "Lose big, lose small, win small, win big"

11/7/07   |   CriticalFanatic

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I'm liking Dantonio so far.  It's nice to finally see some grit and resolve for the first time in a long while.

(Spartan - to - Spartan) Lets remember the only game they've lost this season have all been by 7 points or less. Still not good, but they're not far off.

11/7/07   |   CriticalFanatic

Marshall wrote:
First off I disagree that Michigan pretended it isn't a rivalry. They downplayed it like they do every game, like they did this year for Notre Dame. But Dantonio asked for this. The time clock which he admitted referred to the 2001 game. The silence quote which may have been said sarcastically was still said. Then there were a few other small jabs made throughout the week ( which is another reason Michigan was downplaying the game). As a UM fan though  I wish none of this would have happened cause its going to put sparks in this rivalry that has been missing for a few years....which is exactly what Dantonio wanted.

Best quote or this whole match up was made early in the week. Jake Long was asked about the time clock in the MSU locker room. his response, "well at least they'll be on time"

Fair. The only thing that's factually incorrect is ... "The time clock which he admitted referred to the 2001 game."

That's not true at all. It wouldn't make any sense if it was. He put the clock in the locker room to add some importance to the Michigan game which was lost when JLS was coaching. It was put their for motivation and focus so that everyone is reminded what they're working for every second of the day.

11/7/07   |   Marshall

First off I disagree that Michigan pretended it isn't a rivalry. They downplayed it like they do every game, like they did this year for Notre Dame. But Dantonio asked for this. The time clock which he admitted referred to the 2001 game. The silence quote which may have been said sarcastically was still said. Then there were a few other small jabs made throughout the week ( which is another reason Michigan was downplaying the game). As a UM fan though  I wish none of this would have happened cause its going to put sparks in this rivalry that has been missing for a few years....which is exactly what Dantonio wanted.

Best quote or this whole match up was made early in the week. Jake Long was asked about the time clock in the MSU locker room. his response, "well at least they'll be on time"

11/7/07   |   kantwistaye   |   4214 respect

CriticalFanatic wrote:
Ah yes, but the words of Michigan all week was that this game didn't really matter. It's not a rivalry to them, they don't really care about Michigan State.

Well Michigan pretending its not a rivalry is pretty immature, but whether they say it or not, beating MSU means something to them. 

 

All in all, I don't think any side has done anything too wrong in the whole situation.  I think its just adding fire to the rivalry which is all good to me.

11/7/07   |   CriticalFanatic

kantwistaye wrote:

Would you settle for Wisconsin giving them a beatdown?

 

I suppose a program like Michigan shouldn't have to do this, but in a rivalry game I have no problem with them playing off the words of the opposing coach like this.

Ah yes, but the words of Michigan all week was that this game didn't really matter. It's not a rivalry to them, they don't really care about Michigan State.

11/7/07   |   kantwistaye   |   4214 respect

IlliniBob72 wrote:

With the way they began the season, Michigan has no room whatsoever to pull stunts like that. On top of that, I would expect a little bit more "Let's act like we've done this before" from a program like Michigan.

 

I hope tOSU gives the Wolverines a richly deserved beatdown.

Would you settle for Wisconsin giving them a beatdown?

 

I suppose a program like Michigan shouldn't have to do this, but in a rivalry game I have no problem with them playing off the words of the opposing coach like this.

11/7/07   |   CHansen

CriticalFanatic wrote:
Like most reporters in the big city local media, Dantonio's comment was taken out of context so that it would become bulletin board material. And with the Detroit media completely in the bag for Michigan it's in their best interest to leave out the rest of the situation.

Dantonio was told about the Appy St loss as he entered the locker room and was actually disappointed Michigan had lost. "That's too bad." (here's where I hope the internet starts being a positive where more interviews are televised instead of assuming the tone through a columnist. No laughing. No jokes. He was then asked multiple times for more comments and reaction to to appease he sarcastically said "should we hold a moment of silence?"

In that case, I can see where MSU fans would be upset.  I still don't think it was that bad of an act by Michigan, though.  Perception is reality and the perception is that Dantonio made the "moment of silence" remark with a connotation that Michigan's football dominance is over (that's my assumption, anyhow).  With that perception in mind for most people, I don't think Michigan's response was over-the-top, and was actually deserved.

I still don't see why people would be upset with Dantonio's demeanor in this presser, though.  He does look like he will murder you in your sleep if you ever wrong him, but I don't think he made a fool out of himself or anything.

11/7/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Personally I thought what Michigan did was awesome.   Dantonio kind of set himself up for this.  What I don't care for is the war of words after the game, by both sides.  It just seemed unnecessary.

With the way they began the season, Michigan has no room whatsoever to pull stunts like that. On top of that, I would expect a little bit more "Let's act like we've done this before" from a program like Michigan.

 

I hope tOSU gives the Wolverines a richly deserved beatdown.

11/7/07   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

Before this, I wouldn't have recognized Mark Dantonio if he had walked up to me and shook my hand, but after this clip, consider me a fan. No ranting, no raving, no "I'M A MAN!", just cold, steely resolve. I like it.

11/7/07   |   kantwistaye   |   4214 respect

Personally I thought what Michigan did was awesome.   Dantonio kind of set himself up for this.  What I don't care for is the war of words after the game, by both sides.  It just seemed unnecessary.

11/7/07   |   CriticalFanatic

CHansen wrote:
I don't really remember the background to the "moment of silence" story.  Dantonio held a moment of silence for Michigan after they lost to Appy State?  If so, I think MSU got what was coming to them, and Dantonio has no room to be offended.

With that said, I don't have a problem with his reaction to the questions, except for the cheapshot to Mike Hart.  It's good to see fire out of a head coach, and it's not like he went all Mike Gundy or Dennis Green and looked like a lunatic;  he just looked like the loss really upset him and he was going to do something about it next time around.  No problem there.

Like most reporters in the big city local media, Dantonio's comment was taken out of context so that it would become bulletin board material. And with the Detroit media completely in the bag for Michigan it's in their best interest to leave out the rest of the situation.

Dantonio was told about the Appy St loss as he entered the locker room and was actually disappointed Michigan had lost. "That's too bad." (here's where I hope the internet starts being a positive where more interviews are televised instead of assuming the tone through a columnist. No laughing. No jokes. He was then asked multiple times for more comments and reaction to to appease he sarcastically said "should we hold a moment of silence?"

11/7/07   |   CHansen

I don't really remember the background to the "moment of silence" story.  Dantonio held a moment of silence for Michigan after they lost to Appy State?  If so, I think MSU got what was coming to them, and Dantonio has no room to be offended.

With that said, I don't have a problem with his reaction to the questions, except for the cheapshot to Mike Hart.  It's good to see fire out of a head coach, and it's not like he went all Mike Gundy or Dennis Green and looked like a lunatic;  he just looked like the loss really upset him and he was going to do something about it next time around.  No problem there.