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12/4/07
Ravens Are Claiming The Fix Was In Last Night For New England


I'm still a little exhausted from the final minutes of last night's thriller and the Baltimore Ravens are still bitter. So sour, in fact, they're calling it a fix.

"Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs on officiating: "Everybody is kind of cheering for them to go undefeated and break all the records. They called them the greatest offense on earth. So who knows? ... They made one more play than us and they got a little help."


Suggs on the timeout attributed to the Ravens, which gave New England another chance on fourth down after Baltimore appeared to stop Tom Brady short on a sneak: "You only get a few times to really get the NFL's poster boy in that type of situation. I don't know. It looked like all 22 men on the field played as if no timeout was called. But if it was called, it was called. I don't get into that part of the game. I just do my job."


Suggs on officiating: "It's kind of the feeling of the 2001 tuck rule. It kind of feels like the tuck rule. That is the NFL for you, man. When they got a guy like that that is selling a lot of tickets, you want to keep him selling tickets."


Ravens linebacker Bart Scott on the timeout: "I didn't hear a timeout. That was very convenient."


Scott: "We outplayed them, plain and simple. We punched them in the mouth on both sides of the ball."

Ravens receiver Derrick Mason: "Allow the players to dictate how the game is going to go, especially the last couple of seconds. It's kind of like basketball. There's three seconds on the clock. Let the guys play. The best team is going to win. You don't let outside circumstances dictate how the game is going to go. It's hard to play against the best team in the NFL and beat them. You are out there and working hard. You are playing against them and then also you have the other guys and it seems you are playing against them, also.""

I don't like the Patriots as much as the next person outside Boston, but just as there were several close calls there were more situations where Baltimore could have controlled them game themselves.

It wasn't the refs fault Ed Reed fumbled his interception return that would have likely given the Ravens three more points. It wasn't the refs fault Kyle Boller threw that atrocious interception. It wasn't the refs fault Bart Scott lost his ****, OK maybe it was just a little. It wasn't the refs fault Baltimore showed everyone how NOT to run a 45-second drill.

The Patriots being undefeated is the story of the season and a compelling drama, but I have a hard time buying "the fix."

NFL Fixing Games for the Patriots? [Larry Brown Sports]
Ravens: The fix was in for Patriots [Hashmarks]
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12/4/07
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at the beginning of the 4th quarter the Pats had 0 penalties for 0 yards while the Ravens had 7 penalties by halftime. I'm not saying that's what cost us the game, that would be 2 crappy punts and an inability to make a first down late in the 4th quarter.

12/4/07
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I know it's convenient to come up with all kins of conspiracy theories that the media is coming up with, but the last two weeks have shown that if anyone is to beat New England, they'll need to do so for the ENTIRE 60 minutes!!  The Patriots do what great teams do--give them a chance, and they'll be all over you.  The Colts didn't finish them off, Philadelphia couldn't, and now, Baltimore failed.  There's four games left; anything might happen, but it looks like it won't.

12/4/07
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It did seem like everything that could go the Patriots' way, did, but c'mon, Bart Scott! Your coach called a timeout before the ball was snapped and it was awarded. Look at the damn replay!

 

One thing that didn't make sense to me was the fact that on a play for a 1st down, the Ravens were called for an illegal contact foul during the play. The yardage for the penalty was added to the result of the play. I thought that only happened for personal fouls, like roughing the passer or facemask calls. If a defender goes offsides or commits pass interference and a pass goes for 60 yards, they don't add yardage to the end of the play, they decline the penalty and accept the result of the play. The announcers didn't say anything, so I must be wrong.


12/4/07
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The Ravens were absolutely screwed and anyone who watched the game knows that.  However, the players should just let the fans talk about that.  It makes them looks bad.  Take the high road and take it to them in the playoffs watch someone else beat the Patriots this year.

12/4/07
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Sorry Ravens, I don't buy it, and I doubt many others do either.

12/4/07
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Considering the timeout was called (they showed a sideline camera of Rex Ryan calling it before the play started, and the ref waving his arms right at the snap) and the False start was legit, and the defensive holding, while ticky tack, was a penalty, I'm not sure they have a gripe.  The refs let Derrick Mason tackle half of the defense on that last hail mary, imagine the controversy had the Ravens won on that play.

And Bart Scott is a moron, that is all.

12/4/07
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kantwistaye wrote:
The Ravens were absolutely screwed and anyone who watched the game knows that.  However, the players should just let the fans talk about that.  It makes them looks bad.  Take the high road and take it to them in the playoffs watch someone else beat the Patriots this year.
How the hell you figure? You're letting your blind hatred get in the way of your common sense, at this point.

And to Bart Scott...where are you getting the idea that everyone wants the Pats to go undefeated? It seems like damn near EVERYONE wants the Pats to lose, outside of New England.

12/4/07
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Pat wrote:
How the hell you figure? You're letting your blind hatred get in the way of your common sense, at this point.

And to Bart Scott...where are you getting the idea that everyone wants the Pats to go undefeated? It seems like damn near EVERYONE wants the Pats to lose, outside of New England.
I don't blame bad calls for losses. We should have won in spite of the poor officiating, by making plays. I think officials can be predisposed to make calls against teams with a history of rule-breakers (aka Ravens, Raiders) and not make calls on the supposed "clean" teams (Pats, Steelers). It's human nature. Somehow the Pats are perceived as "alter boys" even though the have their share of rule breakers like Harrison and Moss. Somehow being in that organization immediately changes your reputation like A.D. who chest pounded just as much as anybody on the Ravens "D" in years past, but now criticizes his ex-teammates for it.

I disagree with Pat's statement that everybody wants the Pats to lose. The national media loves this story, and it wouldn't be nearly as "sexy" if the Pats were to lose thus ending the "will they" or "won't they" drama. The NFL also has a stake in their success (while I will not suggest that they affect the outcome of games) because a dominate team draws fans. There were actually Pats fans at the game last night, when I had never seen a Pats fan before 2001.

 
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