Rutgers Women Get Robbed By Tennessee's Clock Management

2/12/08 in NCAA Women's BB   |   CriticalFanatic   |   respect



I don't usually get fired up over women's hoops, but this was such an egregious error on the officials part it deserves its own post.

Check out the final play of the game above, complete with an actual clock counting down the final seconds. You'll notice as soon as Nicky Anosike gets the rebound with 0.2 seconds left that the clock mysteriously stops long enough to allow her to go back up with the follow and subsequently fouled.

On all modern day timers outside the state of Tennessee, this put back and foul occurred long after the buzzer. Instead, the Vols made both free throws and won the game.

Worst of all is the embarrassing fact that the officiating crew reviewed the tape and didn't notice this clock stoppage.

Here's the replay in full speed with Stacey Dales calling it a 'glitch in the system'. Uh huh.
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3/14/08   |   UTvols1

People make mistakes I mean..I'm a HUGE fan of the Tennessee Lady Vols..

but with .2 seconds left I didn't think it was possible.. So to me I think that someone slipped up.... I also play basketball and its really hard to get a shot off in .6 seconds let alone .2..

2/14/08   |   Moon34

this came from an interview on ESPN with the inventor of the clock system Tenn. uses:  (it's not just the official's whistle that can stop the clock)

 

The Precision Time device, which keeps time for all NBA games and many at the college level, uses small microphones attached to the referees' whistles that communicate wirelessly to devices worn on the referees' belts. The devices start and stop the game clock. When the device picks up sound from the whistle, the clock stops.

The official must hit a button on his belt pack to restart the clock.

At the same time, the official timekeeper manually controls the clock. Whichever signal is picked up first -- the sound of the referee's whistle, the click of the belt-pack button or the pressing of the timekeeper's button -- officially controls the clock.

Costabile said because the clock seemed to pause before reaching zero indicates to him that either an official or the timekeeper may have stopped the clock, anticipating Anosike would be fouled, and then restarted it when that wasn't immediately the case.

"That can take as much as 0.8 seconds to 1.5 seconds," he said. "That's telling me people froze up. It's only as good as someone pushing the button."

2/14/08   |   RockyTop   |   35 respect

blamka wrote:

So to paraphrase, "another official very quietly blew his whistle, which stopped the clock but didn't afford anyone else in the building the luxury of actually knowing what happened (nor did the official feel the need to tell anyone that he blew the whistle)?"  It's a stretch, but it might be plausible...if only the clock hadn't mysteriously started again

 

Switching arguments until you find one that sounds halfway plausible is the definition of homerism.  I'm glad that you have your own opinion; but, your opinion is a homer one, whether or not you like Lady Vols hoops or not.  Sometimes it just takes perspective to see that.

I didn't change my argument.  I'm just stating that it was a possibility.  Plus, they have a button on their belt too that does the same thing.  I'm not saying that it definitely happened, I'm just saying it could have.  If you're looking for someone to attack, please go find one of the Patriots fans who are MIA and drag them back to the site and take a shot at them.  All I'm doing is looking at this from every angle.  GET THE HECK OVER IT - GEEZ!  EVERYONG IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION!

2/13/08   |   blamka   |   12 respect

RockyTop wrote:

How exactly did I change the subject?  You do know that there was more than one official on the court during that game....  And since their whistles have the ability to stop the clock the other official could have easily seen something different and blown their whistle....  It just wasn't as loud as the official that was on the screen.....  I'm just saying.....  You have to give people the benefit of the doubt....

 

"Replays of the final seconds airing nationally on ESPN2 show Trammell at the baseline near Anosike raising his arms to signal the foul as the clock strikes zero. Neither Napier nor Spence are in view and either one may have signaled a foul before Trammell did."

So to paraphrase, "another official very quietly blew his whistle, which stopped the clock but didn't afford anyone else in the building the luxury of actually knowing what happened (nor did the official feel the need to tell anyone that he blew the whistle)?"  It's a stretch, but it might be plausible...if only the clock hadn't mysteriously started again

 

Switching arguments until you find one that sounds halfway plausible is the definition of homerism.  I'm glad that you have your own opinion; but, your opinion is a homer one, whether or not you like Lady Vols hoops or not.  Sometimes it just takes perspective to see that.

2/13/08   |   RockyTop   |   35 respect

CriticalFanatic wrote:
Well then you need to get your eyes checked. The "foul" occurs when Anosike jumps back up which CLEARLY occurs when the clock is 0. I'm only calling you out, because blatant homerism deserves that.

Watch the bottom replay before you watch the top replay. The ref doesn't blow the whistle until Anosike jumps up and then lands as a result of the foul after time expired.

Blatant homerism?????  HAHAHA!  I could care less about womens basketball.  I personally think its a waste of time.  And I did watch the video...  It still looks like she struck her at .1.  Anyway, I'm sticking with my own personal opinion.  I have mine, you have yours....  C'est la vie.

2/13/08   |   CriticalFanatic

RockyTop wrote:

I take it the way I see it.  If you don't agree, it doesn't matter to me.  I was just stating what I saw.

(Edited by CriticalFanatic)

Well then you need to get your eyes checked. The "foul" occurs when Anosike jumps back up which CLEARLY occurs when the clock is 0. I'm only calling you out, because blatant homerism deserves that.

Watch the bottom replay before you watch the top replay. The ref doesn't blow the whistle until Anosike jumps up and then lands as a result of the foul after time expired.

2/13/08   |   RockyTop   |   35 respect

blamka wrote:

You're changing the subject.  The point of CF's post and the thread is that the UT timekeeper blatantly stopped the clock (or, if you believe ESPN, there was a glitch in the matrix).  That is either extreme negligence or cheating...either way, the timekeeper should not have a job anymmore (although given the outcome, I doubt that happened). 

 

Whether or not there would have been a foul is completely beside the point.  It's a 'homer' argument, not unlike the Pats fans claiming that if there had been a few more seconds on the clock they would have won the Super Bowl.

How exactly did I change the subject?  You do know that there was more than one official on the court during that game....  And since their whistles have the ability to stop the clock the other official could have easily seen something different and blown their whistle....  It just wasn't as loud as the official that was on the screen.....  I'm just saying.....  You have to give people the benefit of the doubt....

 

"Replays of the final seconds airing nationally on ESPN2 show Trammell at the baseline near Anosike raising his arms to signal the foul as the clock strikes zero. Neither Napier nor Spence are in view and either one may have signaled a foul before Trammell did."

2/13/08   |   RockyTop   |   35 respect

CriticalFanatic wrote:
you can't be serious?

Either way, why does the clock stop at .02 for 1.3 seconds AND THEN run out? Blatant cheating and the fact it wasn't corrected by the officials reaks of foul play.

I take it the way I see it.  If you don't agree, it doesn't matter to me.  I was just stating what I saw.

2/13/08   |   CriticalFanatic

RockyTop wrote:
I was watching the game and it looked to me that the foul occurred as soon as the clock struck .2.....  On this video it looks as if the girls hand comes down and strikes her at .1 though.....  And for the record, I'm not a Lady Vols fan.....  I can't stand women's basketball, so just because I went to UT and I like their men's sports programs, please don't call me a homer.  As soon as the play happened I started getting text messages about it....  It's just retarded.

you can't be serious?

Either way, why does the clock stop at .02 for 1.3 seconds AND THEN run out? Blatant cheating and the fact it wasn't corrected by the officials reaks of foul play.

2/13/08   |   blamka   |   12 respect

RockyTop wrote:
I was watching the game and it looked to me that the foul occurred as soon as the clock struck .2.....  On this video it looks as if the girls hand comes down and strikes her at .1 though.....  And for the record, I'm not a Lady Vols fan.....  I can't stand women's basketball, so just because I went to UT and I like their men's sports programs, please don't call me a homer.  As soon as the play happened I started getting text messages about it....  It's just retarded.

You're changing the subject.  The point of CF's post and the thread is that the UT timekeeper blatantly stopped the clock (or, if you believe ESPN, there was a glitch in the matrix).  That is either extreme negligence or cheating...either way, the timekeeper should not have a job anymmore (although given the outcome, I doubt that happened). 

 

Whether or not there would have been a foul is completely beside the point.  It's a 'homer' argument, not unlike the Pats fans claiming that if there had been a few more seconds on the clock they would have won the Super Bowl.

2/13/08   |   RockyTop   |   35 respect

(Edited by RockyTop)

I was watching the game and it looked to me that the foul occurred as soon as the clock struck .2.....  On this video it looks as if the girls hand comes down and strikes her at .1 though.....  And for the record, I'm not a Lady Vols fan.....  I can't stand women's basketball, so just because I went to UT and I like their men's sports programs, please don't call me a homer.  As soon as the play happened I started getting text messages about it....  It's just retarded.

2/12/08   |   soxfan90

Tool of the week nomination : The University of Tennessee

2/12/08   |   CriticalFanatic

Jengirrl wrote:
Since it's happened at other home team's games throughout the years, I can't say I'm surprised; Rutgers will have to hope for a shot at the Lady Vols in the tournament!!

I can think of some of those instances you may be referring to, but none of them are this egregious. The clock stops at .02 seconds for 1.0 second, then runs out.

Does someone have a location on Donaghy?

2/12/08   |   Jengirrl   |   6930 respect

Since it's happened at other home team's games throughout the years, I can't say I'm surprised; Rutgers will have to hope for a shot at the Lady Vols in the tournament!!

2/12/08   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

What is Don Imus running the clock?

2/12/08   |   blamka   |   12 respect

Wow. Blatant cheating.  Unbelievable.