"I'm not distraught. Because, you know what? I'm not distraught at all, because you know that in all of history, in postseason, the Red Sox have never EVER let any team score more than 8 runs, and the last 2 nights, you know what? We scored more than 8 runs in Fenway Park"
Thanks to all the Rays fans out there. Rays Nation, est. September 2008. This video is a great example of a room full of people using this team as an excuse to get hammered, get obnoxious with a bunch of cowbells, and party hearty, while remaining completely oblivious to the fact that maybe 3 people in the entire bar had any idea who Evan Longoria was at the beginning of the season.
Game 6 starts tonight at 8:07 from the Trop. James "Big Game" Shields plays in the first legitimately big game of his career against Josh Beckett, arguably the best clutch pitcher in baseball. Beckett isn't 100%, but if he's close, then he'll be fine.
61% of FanIQ is picking Shields and the Rays. My prediction: Red Sox in 4 over the Phillies.
Enjoy one more great video. Next time any Rays fans talk smack about Red Sox Nation lacking class, please remember this priceless video:
What's the difference between the Rays and cancer?
Jon Lester can beat cancer.





10/20/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Now that I just got home after an AWESOME victory, any other wise words? Thank GOD I can type because I have no voice......It was pretty amusing screaming "LET'S GO RED SOX" while walking to my car....
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
An example of a solid teaser. Instead of doing a 3 team parlay on the ml laying the kind of juice you are, if you did a 3 team teaser instead it would pat you out at 1.6 to 1 on a 3 teamer.
You are throwing away ridiculous amounts of money betting the way you do.
(Play) [Pending: $400.00] Teaser (College Football: 6.5pts.): 4 teams. Risking$400.00, to win $1,000.00. Ticket Id:XXXXXXXX
10/19/08 |
Pat
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Funny thing about that is... the "50 to win 30" bets are pretty much the absolute minimum that I'll accept. If they're making me any less than that, they get parlayed. And I hit well over 62.5% on the games I bet, so it's cool.
If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that I'm on pace to go 8-0 for the 1:00 games. For those of you scoring at home, that's 100%.
And I don't bet dogs or favorites. I bet winners. So the payout is irrelevant, to be honest.
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
You are at least showing me some potential by picking some dogs on the ml. Thats pretty good. Most noobs shy away from that.
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Yeah... ouch. I might not make the big dollar bets that you do, but I probably make more money anyway. Funny how that works, huh?
No you don't. But you could if you let me talk a little sense into you.
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
If you continuously risk 50 to win 30, you will need to hit 62.5% just to break even. What you are doing is not the way to bet Pat. Its one of the worst ways you could possibly bet actually.
10/19/08 |
Pat
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Wow dude are you kidding me? You risked 50 to win 43 on a 3 team parlay on NFL?
If you want to make some money you need to do some teasers and parlays and such.
No... if you want to make money, you pick winners. Period.
That's MY strategy. I don't really care how you choose to do it. My way works fine.
10/19/08 |
Pat
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Oh yeah... and about that 6-teamer that you missed on...
Yeah... ouch. I might not make the big dollar bets that you do, but I probably make more money anyway. Funny how that works, huh?
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Straight bets risking 50 to win 30 and such will not get you anywhere in the long run.
Wow dude are you kidding me? You risked 50 to win 43 on a 3 team parlay on NFL?
If you want to make some money you need to do some teasers and parlays and such.
10/19/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Tennessee -365 on Tennessee - Kansas City [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
Pittsburgh -450 on Pittsburgh - Cincinnati [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
NY Giants -500 on San Francisco - NY Giants [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
Carolina -165 on New Orleans - Carolina [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
10/19/08 |
Pat
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Chicago -175 on Minnesota - Chicago [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
Baltimore + 125 on Baltimore - Miami [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]
St. Louis +7½ -110 on Dallas - St. Louis [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL]
Buffalo Pk -110 on San Diego - Buffalo [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL]
10/19/08 | ghohmann
OK, Sorry Anthony. I just get tired of all the nonsense. Even with us disagreeing on the direction the game will go tonight, could we be friends? I am very loyal and supportive of my friends however misguided they may be. You don't have to answer now. You could wait until after tonight. You may need a ride if your car turns into a pumpkin.
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Seriously Pat let me give you a piece of advice, don't ever talk about sports betting again.
10/19/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.
The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.
How many beers did Pat drink last night?
Over 8.5 +115
Under 8.5 -110
10/19/08 |
Pat
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You're setting your goals all wrong. Anthony doesn't need to go away. DrCommento, on the other hand...
Well, he'll be gone anyway. He disappeared after Game 1, and made a brief appearance after the Rays won 3 in a row, and has been gone ever since. I don't see him having the stones to come back.
As far as Anthony, he's not half bad, really.
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Anthony? If we win tonight will you go away?
10/19/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Keep talkin', the jinx meter is just continuing to go up.
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Hope is all you got Sunshine. Guess what? It ain't enough.
10/19/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Typical..... I hope you jinxed them.
10/19/08 | ghohmann
You get it now?
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Read "My Take" on Tampa Scooby
10/19/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
No I am not kidding, because you have both the Red Sox and Rays listed as your favorive teams....
. So I was just wondering. You are the fool.....
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Are you kidding me? Because and only because you are a Rays fan, and that you are misguided and possibly a fool I will answer that. I am a Red Sox fan.
10/19/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
What are you? A Rays fan or a Sox fan?
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Comebacks? Comebacks? Ya’all talking about comebacks?
Section 144, Row MM, Seat 24
Would someone from Southie who will be at game 7 find this guy and shut him up?
10/19/08 |
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Total under 9 -115 [Both] on BOS [J Beckett -R] - TAM [J Shields -R] [Sat, Oct 18 8:05PM] [MLB]
Ouch.
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Lester in game 7... could it even get any better?
10/19/08 | ghohmann
I have come to a realization after reading the live threads of games 5 and 6. (After the fact as I do not type well and it would interfere with my enjoying the game). First of all there are some sports educated and articulate fans on this site. My opinion may be biased because I am a home grown Sox fan but, the knowledgeable fans seem to beBoston fans. New England baseball is more than just the occasional thing to do in the summer. Like anywhere else we have the late comers enjoying the recent success of our beloved Sox, but it is actually much more than that. I could never explain it to you so I won’t even try.
TheTampa fans on this thread seem to have recently and somewhat annoyingly joined a conversation that has been going on long before they walked up. You can try to argue your points but you don’t know how the conversation started or where it is going. I can’t help to think that this metaphor could be used to describe that the Rays in the post season. They find themselves in unfamiliar territory and the longer they stick around they realize they may have spoke to soon and put their foot in their mouth. I and every Sox fan respect the Rays. They are a great team that has had an amazing season. Your time is over. We can handle it from here, thanks for the good times. We’ll see you next year…
10/19/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Don't ever forget your roots, fellow Sox fans.
that included my grandfather who i grew up watching the Red Sox play... when i had tears talking to my grandma later that night in 2004, i told her that was for him. Red Sox need to win this World Series... so i can say it was in honor for my grandma, who passed back in July. This generation of Red Sox Nation will never be replaced! So many series comebacks and memories that will last in our lifetime.
Red Sox Nation for life. It can't get any better. GOD BLESS THE BOSTON RED SOX!! WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!! I LOVE IT!
10/19/08 | ghohmann
Tampa... Be very, VERY afraid
10/19/08 | Chris | 3 respect
5 Pacific... sorry. LOL!
10/19/08 |
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This is true. I know people think I'm cocky when I predict things like this to happen, but don't ever think that I take it for granted. I have been extremely fortunate to be able to witness the last few years of Red Sox baseball, especially considering the millions who died without ever seeing them win a ring.
Don't ever forget your roots, fellow Sox fans.
10/19/08 | Chris | 3 respect
The looks on all those Rays fans a priceless... except for that last woman in tears. Thats wrong to call that priceless... GAME 7! TOMORROW AT 5! SEE YOU TOMORROW, AND
PERHAPSMOST LIKELY THE WORRRRRRRLD SERIES!10/19/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Game 7!!!! Keep The Faith and Believe
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Red Sox fans you should be very proud of your team. What they repeatedly do for you is ridiculous.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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This series is over. The Rays have no chance whatsoever in Game 7. Sorry, Tampa Bay fans. The writing is on the wall.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
GAME 7 OUT SHORTLY
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Refer to comment:
New England accent... geez... [i was born in Prov, RI lived in RI for 10 yrs]
Homer is pronounced "Hom-ah" in New England.
Born-in Sox/Patriots fan, moved to San Antonio and learned to watch and play basketball.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
There it is.
I'd be shocked if the Red Sox don't win game 7.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
2 down
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Common Papelbon You Can Do It, One Out To Go!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Chris, just out of curiosity how are you a Red Sox fan and a Spurs fan again?
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
1 out
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
This is it! For game 7!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Its gonna be tough to get 2 off Papelbon.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
This is how its done dawgs
I
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10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Cal better beat Arizona tonight, they're my last leg of a 6 teamer.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
yes nice masterson good way of working out of the 8th one more inning to go!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
YES!!!!!!!! END 8TH!!! 3 OUTS LEFT FOR THE RAYS, AND PAP WILL BE UP FOR THE SAVE! WOOHOO!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
POP UP! He couldn't hit... nut-shot put some pain in his gut. He wanted to get out of there. LOL
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
OOOH right in the pouch! LOL
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Upton needs to deliver right here, at least a single.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
He'll be fine.
he needed some pep talks.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Im getting sick of this reverse curse or whatever you want to call it.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
YES! thank goodness. Strikeout
10/18/08 |
Pat
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No, he's not horrible.
He'll be fine.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Lets get out of this mess
10/18/08 |
Pat
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Apparently I overestimated your intelligence, although considering how low my estimate was, I didn't think that was possible.
What I'm saying is that the Rays won't win the pennant. It seemed obvious enough to me.
And win or lose, tomorrow will be a historic evening for the Rays. Even if they lose, it will be their first Game 7 in franchise history. You're obviously extremely confused, because you have no clue whatsoever what I was saying.
Historic, YES. Awesome? Well... not for Rays fans.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Get him out, he's horrible. No control.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Need to get Pap ready. I don't think Masterson has control.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
thats not the way we needed this inning to start, now we need a double play ball
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Oh, Masterson, cripe sakes... don't do this
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
You know damn well that the error prolonged the inning for the Sox, and looking back to the 3rd, a walk set up a run. It should be 2-2. Can't do anything about the HR's. Don't say that it's 75% Boston's work. Not even close.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
ugh i get nervous with Masterson
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Bats better wake up real quick, running out of time Tampa.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Common Masterson Hold This Lead!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Dang it. Bottom 8th.
@Youk's GIDP
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
For example... this is their first Game 6 of any league championship series. That's historic. But not awesome for them.
What is this joker trying to claim now, that the Rays first pennant isn't a historic moment?
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Argh if only that stayed fair
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
2 on... chance for big damage! Youuuuuuuuuuuk!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Madden still in there drinking blood?
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Every game is a historic moment for their organization. It helps when the franchise has almost no history.
For example... this is their first Game 6 of any league championship series. That's historic. But not awesome for them.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
ooh did Pena come off the bag?? That was close. RISP nonetheless.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
So he throws a submarine slider to first base, damn man way to make it interesting when it doesn't have to be.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Get a ground ball son
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
No it'll be awesome for Rays fans, a historic moment for their organization.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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Sorry about those Game 7 tickets. I feel bad for you, man. That's going to be painful.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
how can you hit on walks and errors? Thats different stuff. Now, getting hits with walks and errors, that, yes, the Sox are doing but not cashing in well. Blame Shields and Bartlett for walks and errors. Boston did their part to take the lead. Game 6 Sox lead: 75% Boston's work, 25% Tampa's oopsies.
10/18/08 |
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10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Yet ANOTHER friggin walk.....
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Throw strikes Balfour wtf dude bear down
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The Red Sox are limp. I want to see a new team in there.
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
I can't give accolades to a team that gets hits due to walks and errors. 0 Errors = No chance at any pounding.....Don't give your team all the credit.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
End 7th!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
whaaaaaaaaaat? And Shields' performance allowing hits and Red Sox pounding runs off him is the Rays beating themselves? Helloooo... we are the defending World Champions. Give us SOME accolades... geez
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Well, so much for this crap....I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll wake up to a Series bound headline in the paper tomorrow. If not, I have Game 7 tickets....
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Another out in foul territory.
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
It's not that they are the better team. When you walk guys and make careless errors, you are going to get beat.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Okajima is deceptive.
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
Boston shouldn't have even had that many. Too many poor miscues from the Rays. Errors/Walks. Boston is not beating the Rays, the Rays are beating the Rays.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The Rays are not playing well at all. The Red Sox have totally turned the tables and are the better team right now. Its not really looking good at all.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
The Red Sox are beating themselves. This game should've been over by now.
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
If the Rays can actually tighten up and stop beating themselves.......
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
argh... more LOB. BOS 11 LOB, TB 3. So the maximum possible score to this point could have been 15-5. Ouch... that hurts for Boston.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Time for the Rays to get some runs.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
wow i thought that was a K....
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
New England accent... geez... [i was born in Prov, RI lived in RI for 10 yrs]
Homer is pronounced "Hom-ah" in New England.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
WILD PITCH
10/18/08 | Anthonyg7575 | 1225 respect
What the f is a homah?
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
How bout another homah, Tek!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Walk. 2 on
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Time to take down Balfour! BrInG iT oN!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
ok. only need a base hit now
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Big hit now makes big cushion.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Of course, the whole staff will be available as needed tomorrow, except for Matsuzaka, who will probably be the Game 1 starter against the Phillies at Fenway.
he clocked him! -- Hopefully the other relievers can take the Rays down and have Pap for the save
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Papelbon should only pitch 1 inning tonight, and then he'll be available as needed tomorrow.
Of course, the whole staff will be available as needed tomorrow, except for Matsuzaka, who will probably be the Game 1 starter against the Phillies at Fenway.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Had him played perfect, look at that.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
inning over.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
How will Francona put Papelbon in...? We'll need him tomorrow too.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Shoot one into the gap, Carl.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
How bout one of your signature triples Crawford? Show us how you can fly.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Walked him. Dang it
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
McLellan is a circus act back there
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Rays are getting
hosedschooled.Fixed.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
I gotta imagine having McClelland as an ump is frustrating, no sound, you think you've walked, you head towards 1st, and then "Strike 3!"
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Rays are getting hosed.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Are you f'in kidding me? Thats not a strike.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
there we go! Right down the middle.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
what?? 3-2?? should have been a K
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Pena just really wasn't able to deliver that time, skip.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Pena waves at it and misses
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Swing says Madden, swing goddamnit
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Other teams have blown 7-0 leads in a game. No other MLB team has ever blown a 3-0 series lead.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Madden puts on the swing sign
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
with 2 outs in the bottom 7th may i add... that was bad for TB.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Hideki is in
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The '04 Yankees blew a 3-0 series lead but they never blew a 7-0 lead in a game. Thats bad.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Madden is the first manager in MLB History to hit and run with noone on base.
10/18/08 | losthope13
Yes indeed, a World Series appearance and win
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
2 runs up lets see if
beckettokajima comes out and holds it steady10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.
The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.
Ill just start off with this:
Traditionally on propositional lines the general consensus of the public is to lay the heavy juice.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Or since the 2004 Yankees...
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Crap. Its ok. 2 runs came in
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Quick someone bring Madden an animal or something to sacrifice the son of a bitch is thirsty
10/18/08 |
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"Many more people would have bet the underdog". Thats pretty funny Pat. How do you know? Funny thing is you are exactly wrong.
I'd love to hear an intelligent explanation as to how I'm wrong. You might want to ask someone else to do this for you, based on what I've seen from you so far.
Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.
The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
This is turning into the worst postseason collapse since Felix Rodriguex in the '02 series.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
or costly errors+explosion of Sox offense
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
If the Red Sox win this game, they WILL win game 7, without a doubt.
exactly. Lester will pitch a 1-run gem.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
This series is tailspinning out of control because Madden is a freakin crazed vampire.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
It's ok, Rays fans... you are apart of something magical.
10/18/08 | losthope13
This series gives me panic attacks.......I love watching these teams battle....
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Nice job by Papi.
If the Red Sox win this game, they WILL win game 7, without a doubt.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
4-2 Boston now!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
YES!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG PAPI!!!!!!!!!!
10/18/08 |
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PAPI!!!!!!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The purpose of the line is to create a balance for each side of the bet. Yours would have created a huge disparity, and the house would have lost a ton of money, because MANY MORE people would have bet on the underdog, and would have won.
The App State-Michigan line wasn't an indication of how the game would wind up. But it didn't have to be, since very few people were willing to bet on App State to win, so the bookies wouldn't have lost money to many people.
Good try, but again, you fail.
Truly laughable.
"Many more people would have bet the underdog". Thats pretty funny Pat. How do you know? Funny thing is you are exactly wrong.
10/18/08 | losthope13
Hey I love Fenway and think the Trop is not up to par but its still even rules for both teams.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Remember-- DESTINY. Sox+World Series= Match made in heaven.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Common Papi Bring Them Home!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
one PAPI swing could make this a 6-2 game!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
I can't believe how resilient this team is.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Costly error there.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
The outcome has absolutely nothing to do with the created odd line.
Except for the fact that most people would have bet on Shields giving up a run, so your "house" in this case would have lost a ton.
The purpose of the line is to create a balance for each side of the bet. Yours would have created a huge disparity, and the house would have lost a ton of money, because MANY MORE people would have bet on the underdog, and would have won.
The App State-Michigan line wasn't an indication of how the game would wind up. But it didn't have to be, since very few people were willing to bet on App State to win, so the bookies wouldn't have lost money to many people.
Good try, but again, you fail.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
ERROR!!!!! YES
10/18/08 | losthope13
what about a ladder that is still in play for nostalgic reasons? Or a scoreboard that can be hit through?
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Come on JP, pitch like you did to JD Drew. Pedroia will whack you to a 3-run defecit
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Maybe a retractable roof. Its not raining now! Oh well, i'll forget about it
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
[edit]
that's completely different. Baseball is an OUTDOOR sport. The Green Monster is just a normal wall times 10. How does that compare to a ball hitting a roof? A roof?
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
So when Appalachia St beat Michigan State the oddsmakers money line of -1800 was an epic failure.
Pretty funny stuff comes out of your mouth for someone who thinks they are smart Pat.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
That's why you're not an oddsmaker.
You just displayed your ignorance to me.
The outcome has absolutely nothing to do with the created odd line.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Time to pull Shields?? 1 on, Sox lead with middle order coming up.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
You gotta be kidding me Shields.
To Varitek????
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Wham! Another Homer!
Sox lead...
10/18/08 | losthope13
Here are just a couple, and I was quoting the comment from chris about the catwalk rule and domes being dumb. I don't personally think any fields ground rules are dumb. All ballparks are unique and that makes the game more exciting and challenging for the players, especially the visiting clubs...as it should be...I love Fenway for its character and The Trop being a dome is necessary as it rains everyday in Tampa in the summer..It takes alot to make a world...and a baseball park...
- A fly ball that strikes the top of the ladder on the Green Monster and then bounces out of play is two bases.
- A fly ball that lands above the red line on top of the Green Monster and bounces onto the field of play is ruled a home run
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10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Yes +200
No -160
+200, friend! 3-2 RED SOX
10/18/08 |
Pat
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Yes +200
No -160
Epic Fail.
That's why you're not an oddsmaker.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
HOME RUN JASON VARITEK!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
How many chili dogs can David Ortiz eat in one sitting?
Over 9.5 -130
Under 9.5 +115
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
C'mon.... bring out Wheeler.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
nice catch.... jerk
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Shields 100 pitches now
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
James Shields will give up a run in the 6th proposition:
Yes +200
No -160
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Madden is bloodthirsty
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
End 5th
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
I don't see Shields giving up any more earned runs. Nope.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Madden is the most aggressive manager Ive ever seen.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Its alright. Plenty of time to pound on Tampa's bullpen and if Shields comes back out for another beatdown.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Nice going Madden, you should be up 3-2 instead your so damn bloodthirsty and impatient its still tied.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Wham! A Homer!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
2-2
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
That a way to redeem yourself Bartlett. Hooks one around the foul pole, nice.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Holy crap... 2-2, and suddenly the Tampa fans realized there was a baseball game going on.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Crap.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Bartlett is a remarkably apelike individual he's gotta do whatever he can to make sure his buddy doesn't get gunned down like that.
that was gay
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Wow... Navarro probably shouldn't try to steal 2nd again any time soon. That wasn't even remotely close. And Varitek doesn't have a cannon, by any means.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice throw tek!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Sending your catcher? Wow.
WTF ARE YOU DOING MADDEN???
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Gross is horrendous with a bat in his hands. I'd feel more confident sending a kid in a wheelchair with a wiffleball bat.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
c'monnnn DP ball!
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
This should be Beckett's last inning of the 2008
seasonALCS, but he'll be back and better than ever for the World Series.Fixed.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
C'mon Beckett stay solid.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Up steps the automatic out.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
This should be Beckett's last inning of the 08 season.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The Red Sox were unable to score in the 5th.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Surprised Gross didn't drop that one.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Bay spoiled it. Dang it.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Gross is garbage
10/18/08 |
Pat
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JD Drew is the new Papi.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Don't give him a 1-2-3. Get a hit! DEEP RIGHT! GOOD SHOT J.D.!
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
The Red Sox bats have suddenly gone silent.... 2 down already in the 5th.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Ortiz just wasn't really able to deliver on that one.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Shields has settled down himself, the under 9 is lookin solid.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Shields has been ugly. He should be happy he only has 2 ER. It could easily be as high as 6. He'll probably hit 100+ pitches so this should be it for him.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Well played.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Its alright its only a matter of time until someone clubs one.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Beckett looks more like the postseason beckett through 4.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Now get stranded, and become just another number in the "LOB" category.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Nice play by kotsay there
10/18/08 |
hartley51592
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what a play by kotsay!
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Ask and ye shall receive.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Now thats a nice piece of hitting by Crawford. Now steal second.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Beckett is pitching like vintage Josh Beckett. That's a great sign. Aside from the Upton shot (which I still haven't seen), no one has really gotten to him.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
We really needed to put some more runs on there
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Crap. Dustin K-ed. Shields at 87 pitches though. Beckett only 43.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Yes, there we go- coco!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Getting drilled by a pitch doesn't really qualify.
he moved in. He WANTED to get hit. There was no attempt to move out of the way, he moved IN the way. That should not have been a HBP.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
I wouldn't really call that cheating. More like he didn't make a great effort to get out of the way. Doesn't cheating have to involve some kind of pre-meditation or decision making?
Getting drilled by a pitch doesn't really qualify.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Swung at ball 4. C'mon, Lowrie use your noggin! A walk turns into an out. "Rookie" mistake.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
See Shields still struggling. No control. 3-0. Time to add some runs, fellas
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Great so do me a favor and dont come out of the bushes and act like a weasel like you actually do when I'm around.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
I would like to bring back game 6 in 2004... the swatted ball to try and score by A_Rod... how about Bartlett moving into the plate to get hit. Are the Rays really that shaken from game 5? To try and cheat free bases and/or runs to win? HAH.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
"I'm done wasting my time talking to you"
Awesome. If you ever say anything true in your life, I hope it's this.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
And put Wheeler in after so we can keep the runs coming. lol
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Make Shields antsy. He has no command in this game. Shame on Kotsay for swinging at that 3-1 pitch. Let him throw, he is struggling and already near 70 pitches. Make him throw.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
I have balls, I just don't need to prove it to you. Also, what's the point of making a bet with someone whom I know will never pay me anyway? You can talk all you want, but I know for a fact that you squelch on your bets. Fact. I don't bet with people like you. Sorry.
What the devil are you talking about?
Do you know that there is truly one appropriate response to a little girl like you sitting there running there mouth about something they have no clue what they are talking about, and thats a bitchslap.
If you think I would try to bounce off this site for a little C Note wager with you, you are even dumber than I thought Pat. Im dont wasting my time talking to you. After all you know everything about me, my life history, and every bet Ive ever made in my life, so why would I bother betting with someone like you.
Clearly you know everything, so I wouldn't stand a chance anyway.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Great, ump gets hurt. Now the game will be over at 1 AM.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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It's not amusing at all. It's rather sad, in fact, that your word means absolutely nothing to you or anyone else.
I have balls, I just don't need to prove it to you. Also, what's the point of making a bet with someone whom I know will never pay me anyway? You can talk all you want, but I know for a fact that you squelch on your bets. Fact. I don't bet with people like you. Sorry.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Riiiiight...
Thats really funny Pat. Very amusing. If you have no balls just say so.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Beckett is looking settled now and i think as the game continues he'll only get better
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Strap on some nuts son.
So I can be another person you owe money to, just like the betting sites that have blocked you?
Riiiiight...
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Upton needs to crush one down the line right here.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Beckett needs to retire upton here
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Ill still bet you 100 bucks the Rays win this game even though its 2-1.
Strap on some nuts son.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Bartlett leaned into that one. A bit shady, but very smart baseball play right there.
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
Bases Loaded Common Kotsay
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
2-1.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
James "(I've never played in a) Big Game" Shields is already having control issues... in the 3rd. Runners on 2nd and 3rd now with 1 out. It's just a matter of time before the Sox blow this one open.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Deal?
You can have the terms of your agreement free if even if they lose if you want, I was talking about taking your money.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Sure. If the Sox win tonight, you never speak to me or anyone I know, ever again, via computer, phone call, text message, or anything else. If they lose, then I'll write a blog about it.
Deal?
10/18/08 | ThaChad | 2 respect
At least its a tie ball game lets hope beckett can hold it down in the second
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Want to wager on it Pat?
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
You're going to HAVE to wait.
Like... until next year.
10/18/08 | bayareabeast21 | 337 respect
Sox postseason run ends tonight. I can't wait to see Boston eliminated.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
BTW... Manny wouldn't have beaten out that ground ball, like Bay did.
That being said, Manny probably would have hit it THROUGH the roof.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Please clarify... what are the "dumb" rules that you speak of?
10/18/08 |
Pat
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"Big Game" Shields my @$$.
Quick... someone name me a legitimately "big" game that he has won. If you manage to come up with any, I assure you I'll come up with at least twice as many examples for Papelbon, Lester, Wakefield and Beckett.
10/18/08 | losthope13
That was a huge shot not a popup... come on Red Sox get the same rule and Fenway is a wacky field as well with "dumb" field rules
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
YOUUUUKKKKKKK!!!
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Tie game!
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
OMFG...
That must have been rocked.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
"It hit the ceiling and since it was in fair play it is a home run"
10/18/08 | donm454 | 20 respect
Woo Rays!
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
Did you hear them? So if it pops straight up and hits the ceiling, its a home run? Dumb rule, and domes are dumb too if that is their rule. Suck that doubleplay Rays
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
And after about 2 seconds of hearing that god-awful cowbell, I'm wishing for Steve Harvey again.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
finally back online geez
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
How long is it going to take for them to go back online? They are a professional tv station. Unbelievable. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a riot outside there studios. Jerks
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
It's on now. Effing A, it's about time.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
I see baseball!!!!!
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
-350 for TBS.
Only 350?
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
I hate BJ Upton almost as much as I hate TBS.
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
I wonder how that home run looked. Hmmmm
-350 for TBS.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
BOS 0
TB 1 \/ 1 - 1 out 0 on
B.J. Upton is a freaking a-hole. Can't freaking stand him.
10/18/08 | donm454 | 20 respect
Wow. This should officially be the end of baseball on TBS. This is ridiculous.
10/18/08 | Chris | 3 respect
TBS sucks. Why can't FOX always do these games. Better coverage anyways. This sucks
10/18/08 |
hartley51592
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2462 respect
if you go to mlb.com to the tbs corner you can watch live with no commentary.
10/18/08 |
Jubanator14
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367 respect
There are actually power outages in Atlanta. I believe if you go to hotcorner on mlb.com you should be able to watch the game.
10/18/08 |
hartley51592
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2462 respect
this just in..TBS has a power outage
10/18/08 |
Jubanator14
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367 respect
Hey, the Steve Harvey show is funny.
10/18/08 | virginiaalloyandscrap
No radio and MLB Game audio not working. Play by play anyone?
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
Coco gets picked off... kinda wish I could have seen that... but TBS still sucks.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
We've already missed Coco Crisp hitting a leadoff single.
Part of me doesn't care, as long as the Sox win. But the other part of me hopes that TBS loses the shirt off their proverbial backs in this one.
10/18/08 |
Pat
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4557 respect
TBS sucks. Where the hell is my baseball game, and why do I still see The Steve Harvey Show?
10/18/08 | MrNFL | 175 respect
Is it just me, or is anyone elses TBS showing Steve Harvey??