Video-Tampa Rays Versus Boston Red Sox Game 6 ALCS Live Thread [2008 MLB Playoffs] - YouTube | MLB | Boston Red Sox

0	TBS sucks. Where the hell is my baseball game, and why do I still see The Steve Harvey Show?

10/18/08

0	We've already missed Coco Crisp hitting a leadoff single. Part of me doesn't care, as long as the Sox win. But the other part of me hopes that TBS loses the shirt off their proverbial backs in this one.

10/18/08

0	Coco gets picked off... kinda wish I could have seen that... but TBS still sucks.

10/18/08

virginiaalloyandscrap

0	No radio and MLB Game audio not working. Play by play anyone?

10/18/08

Jubanator14

1	MrNFL wrote: Is it just me, or is anyone elses TBS showing Steve Harvey?? Hey, the Steve Harvey show is funny.

10/18/08

hartley51592

0	this just in..TBS has a power outage

10/18/08

Jubanator14

0	There are actually power outages in Atlanta. I believe if you go to hotcorner on mlb.com you should be able to watch the game.

10/18/08

hartley51592

0	if you go to mlb.com to the tbs corner you can watch live with no commentary.

10/18/08

0	TBS sucks. Why can't FOX always do these games. Better coverage anyways. This sucks

10/18/08

donm454

1	Wow. This should officially be the end of baseball on TBS. This is ridiculous.

10/18/08

0	BOS 0 TB 1 \/ 1 - 1 out 0 on B.J. Upton is a freaking a-hole. Can't freaking stand him.

10/18/08

0	I wonder how that home run looked. Hmmmm -350 for TBS.

10/18/08

0	I hate BJ Upton almost as much as I hate TBS.

10/18/08

0	MrNFL wrote: I wonder how that home run looked. Hmmmm -350 for TBS. Only 350?

10/18/08

0	I see baseball!!!!!

10/18/08

0	It's on now. Effing A, it's about time.

10/18/08

0	How long is it going to take for them to go back online? They are a professional tv station. Unbelievable. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a riot outside there studios. Jerks

10/18/08

0	finally back online geez

10/18/08

1	And after about 2 seconds of hearing that god-awful cowbell, I'm wishing for Steve Harvey again.

10/18/08

0	Did you hear them? So if it pops straight up and hits the ceiling, its a home run? Dumb rule, and domes are dumb too if that is their rule. Suck that doubleplay Rays

10/18/08

donm454

0	Woo Rays!

10/18/08

0	"It hit the ceiling and since it was in fair play it is a home run"

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: "It hit the ceiling and since it was in fair play it is a home run" OMFG... That must have been rocked.

10/18/08

0	Tie game!

10/18/08

0	YOUUUUKKKKKKK!!!

10/18/08

0	That was a huge shot not a popup... come on Red Sox get the same rule and Fenway is a wacky field as well with "dumb" field rules

10/18/08

0	"Big Game" Shields my @$$. Quick... someone name me a legitimately "big" game that he has won. If you manage to come up with any, I assure you I'll come up with at least twice as many examples for Papelbon, Lester, Wakefield and Beckett.

10/18/08

0	losthope13 wrote: That was a huge shot not a popup... come on Red Sox get the same rule and Fenway is a wacky field as well with "dumb" field rules Please clarify... what are the "dumb" rules that you speak of?

10/18/08

0	BTW... Manny wouldn't have beaten out that ground ball, like Bay did. That being said, Manny probably would have hit it THROUGH the roof.

10/18/08

0	Sox postseason run ends tonight. I can't wait to see Boston eliminated.

10/18/08

1	bayareabeast21 wrote: Sox postseason run ends tonight. I can't wait to see Boston eliminated. You're going to HAVE to wait. Like... until next year.

10/18/08

0	Want to wager on it Pat?

10/18/08

0	(Edited by ThaChad) At least its a tie ball game lets hope beckett can hold it down in the second

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: Want to wager on it Pat? Sure. If the Sox win tonight, you never speak to me or anyone I know, ever again, via computer, phone call, text message, or anything else. If they lose, then I'll write a blog about it. Deal?

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: Sure. If the Sox win tonight, you never speak to me or anyone I know, ever again, via computer, phone call, text message, or anything else. If they lose, then I'll write a blog about it. Deal? You can have the terms of your agreement free if even if they lose if you want, I was talking about taking your money.

10/18/08

0	James "(I've never played in a) Big Game" Shields is already having control issues... in the 3rd. Runners on 2nd and 3rd now with 1 out. It's just a matter of time before the Sox blow this one open.

10/18/08

0	2-1.

10/18/08

0	Bases Loaded Common Kotsay

10/18/08

0	Bartlett leaned into that one. A bit shady, but very smart baseball play right there.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by bayareabeast21) Ill still bet you 100 bucks the Rays win this game even though its 2-1. Strap on some nuts son.

10/18/08

0	Beckett needs to retire upton here

10/18/08

0	Upton needs to crush one down the line right here.

10/18/08

1	bayareabeast21 wrote: Ill still bet you 100 bucks the Rays win this game even though its 2-1. Strap on some nuts son. So I can be another person you owe money to, just like the betting sites that have blocked you? Riiiiight...

10/18/08

0	Beckett is looking settled now and i think as the game continues he'll only get better

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: So I can be another person you owe money to, just like the betting sites that have blocked you? Riiiiight... Thats really funny Pat. Very amusing. If you have no balls just say so.

10/18/08

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bayareabeast21 wrote:

Thats really funny Pat. Very amusing. If you have no balls just say so.

It's not amusing at all. It's rather sad, in fact, that your word means absolutely nothing to you or anyone else.

I have balls, I just don't need to prove it to you. Also, what's the point of making a bet with someone whom I know will never pay me anyway? You can talk all you want, but I know for a fact that you squelch on your bets. Fact. I don't bet with people like you. Sorry.

10/18/08

1	Great, ump gets hurt. Now the game will be over at 1 AM.

10/18/08

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Pat wrote:

It's not amusing at all. It's rather sad, in fact, that your word means absolutely nothing to you or anyone else.

I have balls, I just don't need to prove it to you. Also, what's the point of making a bet with someone whom I know will never pay me anyway? You can talk all you want, but I know for a fact that you squelch on your bets. Fact. I don't bet with people like you. Sorry.

What the devil are you talking about?

Do you know that there is truly one appropriate response to a little girl like you sitting there running there mouth about something they have no clue what they are talking about, and thats a bitchslap.

If you think I would try to bounce off this site for a little C Note wager with you, you are even dumber than I thought Pat. Im dont wasting my time talking to you. After all you know everything about me, my life history, and every bet Ive ever made in my life, so why would I bother betting with someone like you.

Clearly you know everything, so I wouldn't stand a chance anyway.

10/18/08

1	Make Shields antsy. He has no command in this game. Shame on Kotsay for swinging at that 3-1 pitch. Let him throw, he is struggling and already near 70 pitches. Make him throw.

10/18/08

1	And put Wheeler in after so we can keep the runs coming. lol

10/18/08

0	"I'm done wasting my time talking to you" Awesome. If you ever say anything true in your life, I hope it's this.

10/18/08

0	I would like to bring back game 6 in 2004... the swatted ball to try and score by A_Rod... how about Bartlett moving into the plate to get hit. Are the Rays really that shaken from game 5? To try and cheat free bases and/or runs to win? HAH.

10/18/08

0	Great so do me a favor and dont come out of the bushes and act like a weasel like you actually do when I'm around.

10/18/08

0	See Shields still struggling. No control. 3-0. Time to add some runs, fellas

10/18/08

0	(Edited by Chris) Swung at ball 4. C'mon, Lowrie use your noggin! A walk turns into an out. "Rookie" mistake.

10/18/08

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(Edited by bayareabeast21)
Chris wrote:

I would like to bring back game 6 in 2004... the swatted ball to try and score by A_Rod... how about Bartlett moving into the plate to get hit. Are the Rays really that shaken from game 5? To try and cheat free bases and/or runs to win? HAH.

I wouldn't really call that cheating. More like he didn't make a great effort to get out of the way. Doesn't cheating have to involve some kind of pre-meditation or decision making?

Getting drilled by a pitch doesn't really qualify.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: I wouldn't really call that cheating. More like he didn't make a great effort to get out of the way. Doesn't cheating have to involve some kind of pre-meditation or decision making? Getting drilled by a pitch doesn't really qualify. he moved in. He WANTED to get hit. There was no attempt to move out of the way, he moved IN the way. That should not have been a HBP.

10/18/08

0	Yes, there we go- coco!

10/18/08

0	Crap. Dustin K-ed. Shields at 87 pitches though. Beckett only 43.

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: See Shields still struggling. No control. 3-0. Time to add some runs, fellas We really needed to put some more runs on there

10/18/08

0	Beckett is pitching like vintage Josh Beckett. That's a great sign. Aside from the Upton shot (which I still haven't seen), no one has really gotten to him.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by bayareabeast21) Now thats a nice piece of hitting by Crawford. Now steal second.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: Now thats a nice piece of hitting by Crawford. Now steal second. Ask and ye shall receive.

10/18/08

hartley51592

0	what a play by kotsay!

10/18/08

0	Nice play by kotsay there

10/18/08

0	MrNFL wrote: Ask and ye shall receive. Now get stranded, and become just another number in the "LOB" category.

10/18/08

0	Beckett looks more like the postseason beckett through 4.

10/18/08

0	Its alright its only a matter of time until someone clubs one.

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: Now get stranded, and become just another number in the "LOB" category. Well played.

10/18/08

1	Shields has been ugly. He should be happy he only has 2 ER. It could easily be as high as 6. He'll probably hit 100+ pitches so this should be it for him.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by bayareabeast21) Shields has settled down himself, the under 9 is lookin solid.

10/18/08

0	Ortiz just wasn't really able to deliver on that one.

10/18/08

0	The Red Sox bats have suddenly gone silent.... 2 down already in the 5th.

10/18/08

0	Don't give him a 1-2-3. Get a hit! DEEP RIGHT! GOOD SHOT J.D.!

10/18/08

0	JD Drew is the new Papi.

10/18/08

0	Gross is garbage

10/18/08

0	Bay spoiled it. Dang it.

10/18/08

0	Surprised Gross didn't drop that one.

10/18/08

0	The Red Sox were unable to score in the 5th.

10/18/08

0	This should be Beckett's last inning of the 08 season.

10/18/08

0	Up steps the automatic out.

10/18/08

0	C'mon Beckett stay solid.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: This should be Beckett's last inning of the 08 season. This should be Beckett's last inning of the 2008 ~~season~~ ALCS, but he'll be back and better than ever for the World Series. Fixed.

10/18/08

0	c'monnnn DP ball!

10/18/08

0	Gross is horrendous with a bat in his hands. I'd feel more confident sending a kid in a wheelchair with a wiffleball bat.

10/18/08

0	Sending your catcher? Wow. WTF ARE YOU DOING MADDEN???

10/18/08

0	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice throw tek!

10/18/08

1	Wow... Navarro probably shouldn't try to steal 2nd again any time soon. That wasn't even remotely close. And Varitek doesn't have a cannon, by any means.

10/18/08

0	Bartlett is a remarkably apelike individual he's gotta do whatever he can to make sure his buddy doesn't get gunned down like that. that was gay

10/18/08

0	Crap.

10/18/08

0	Holy crap... 2-2, and suddenly the Tampa fans realized there was a baseball game going on.

10/18/08

0	That a way to redeem yourself Bartlett. Hooks one around the foul pole, nice.

10/18/08

0	2-2

10/18/08

1	Wham! A Homer!

10/18/08

0	Nice going Madden, you should be up 3-2 instead your so damn bloodthirsty and impatient its still tied.

10/18/08

0	Its alright. Plenty of time to pound on Tampa's bullpen and if Shields comes back out for another beatdown.

10/18/08

0	Madden is the most aggressive manager Ive ever seen.

10/18/08

0	I don't see Shields giving up any more earned runs. Nope.

10/18/08

0	End 5th

10/18/08

0	Madden is bloodthirsty

10/18/08

0	James Shields will give up a run in the 6th proposition: Yes +200 No -160

10/18/08

0	Shields 100 pitches now

10/18/08

0	nice catch.... jerk

10/18/08

0	C'mon.... bring out Wheeler.

10/18/08

0	How many chili dogs can David Ortiz eat in one sitting? Over 9.5 -130 Under 9.5 +115

10/18/08

0	HOME RUN JASON VARITEK!

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: James Shields will give up a run in the 6th proposition: Yes +200 No -160 Epic Fail. That's why you're not an oddsmaker.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: James Shields will give up a run in the 6th proposition: Yes +200 No -160 +200, friend! 3-2 RED SOX

10/18/08

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Pat wrote:

Please clarify... what are the "dumb" rules that you speak of?

Here are just a couple, and I was quoting the comment from chris about the catwalk rule and domes being dumb. I don't personally think any fields ground rules are dumb. All ballparks are unique and that makes the game more exciting and challenging for the players, especially the visiting clubs...as it should be...I love Fenway for its character and The Trop being a dome is necessary as it rains everyday in Tampa in the summer..It takes alot to make a world...and a baseball park...

A fly ball that strikes the top of the ladder on the Green Monster and then bounces out of play is two bases.
A fly ball that lands above the red line on top of the Green Monster and bounces onto the field of play is ruled a home run

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10/18/08

0	Wham! Another Homer! Sox lead...

10/18/08

0	You gotta be kidding me Shields. To Varitek????

10/18/08

0	Time to pull Shields?? 1 on, Sox lead with middle order coming up.

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: Epic Fail. That's why you're not an oddsmaker. You just displayed your ignorance to me. The outcome has absolutely nothing to do with the created odd line.

10/18/08

0	So when Appalachia St beat Michigan State the oddsmakers money line of -1800 was an epic failure. Pretty funny stuff comes out of your mouth for someone who thinks they are smart Pat.

10/18/08

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losthope13 wrote:

Here are just a couple, and I was quoting the comment from chris about the catwalk rule and domes being dumb. I don't personally think any fields ground rules are dumb. All ballparks are unique and that makes the game more exciting and challenging for the players, especially the visiting clubs...as it should be...I love Fenway for its character and The Trop being a dome is necessary as it rains everyday in Tampa in the summer..It takes alot to make a world...and a baseball park...

A fly ball that strikes the top of the ladder on the Green Monster and then bounces out of play is two bases.
A fly ball that lands above the red line on top of the Green Monster and bounces onto the field of play is ruled a home run

[edit]

that's completely different. Baseball is an OUTDOOR sport. The Green Monster is just a normal wall times 10. How does that compare to a ball hitting a roof? A roof?

10/18/08

0	(Edited by Chris) Maybe a retractable roof. Its not raining now! Oh well, i'll forget about it

10/18/08

0	Come on JP, pitch like you did to JD Drew. Pedroia will whack you to a 3-run defecit

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: that's completely different. Baseball is an OUTDOOR sport. The Green Monster is just a normal wall times 10. How does that compare to a ball hitting a roof? A roof? what about a ladder that is still in play for nostalgic reasons? Or a scoreboard that can be hit through?

10/18/08

0	ERROR!!!!! YES

10/18/08

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bayareabeast21 wrote:

You just displayed your ignorance to me.

The outcome has absolutely nothing to do with the created odd line.

Except for the fact that most people would have bet on Shields giving up a run, so your "house" in this case would have lost a ton.

The purpose of the line is to create a balance for each side of the bet. Yours would have created a huge disparity, and the house would have lost a ton of money, because MANY MORE people would have bet on the underdog, and would have won.

The App State-Michigan line wasn't an indication of how the game would wind up. But it didn't have to be, since very few people were willing to bet on App State to win, so the bookies wouldn't have lost money to many people.

Good try, but again, you fail.

10/18/08

0	Costly error there.

10/18/08

0	I can't believe how resilient this team is.

10/18/08

0	one PAPI swing could make this a 6-2 game!

10/18/08

0	Common Papi Bring Them Home!

10/18/08

0	Remember-- DESTINY. Sox+World Series= Match made in heaven.

10/18/08

0	Hey I love Fenway and think the Trop is not up to par but its still even rules for both teams.

10/18/08

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Pat wrote:

Except for the fact that most people would have bet on Shields giving up a run, so your "house" in this case would have lost a ton.

The purpose of the line is to create a balance for each side of the bet. Yours would have created a huge disparity, and the house would have lost a ton of money, because MANY MORE people would have bet on the underdog, and would have won.

The App State-Michigan line wasn't an indication of how the game would wind up. But it didn't have to be, since very few people were willing to bet on App State to win, so the bookies wouldn't have lost money to many people.

Good try, but again, you fail.

Truly laughable.

"Many more people would have bet the underdog". Thats pretty funny Pat. How do you know? Funny thing is you are exactly wrong.

10/18/08

0	PAPI!!!!!!

10/18/08

0	YES!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG PAPI!!!!!!!!!!

10/18/08

0	4-2 Boston now!

10/18/08

2	Nice job by Papi. If the Red Sox win this game, they WILL win game 7, without a doubt.

10/18/08

0	This series gives me panic attacks.......I love watching these teams battle....

10/18/08

0	It's ok, Rays fans... you are apart of something magical.

10/18/08

0	This series is tailspinning out of control because Madden is a freakin crazed vampire.

10/18/08

0	MrNFL wrote: Nice job by Papi. If the Red Sox win this game, they WILL win game 7, without a doubt. exactly. Lester will pitch a 1-run gem.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: This series is tailspinning out of control because Madden is a freakin crazed vampire. or costly errors+explosion of Sox offense

10/18/08

0	This is turning into the worst postseason collapse since Felix Rodriguex in the '02 series.

10/18/08

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bayareabeast21 wrote:

Truly laughable.

"Many more people would have bet the underdog". Thats pretty funny Pat. How do you know? Funny thing is you are exactly wrong.

I'd love to hear an intelligent explanation as to how I'm wrong. You might want to ask someone else to do this for you, based on what I've seen from you so far.

Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.

The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.

10/18/08

0	Quick someone bring Madden an animal or something to sacrifice the son of a bitch is thirsty

10/18/08

0	Crap. Its ok. 2 runs came in

10/18/08

2	bayareabeast21 wrote: This is turning into the worst postseason collapse since Felix Rodriguex in the '02 series. Or since the 2004 Yankees...

10/18/08

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(Edited by bayareabeast21)
Pat wrote:

I'd love to hear an intelligent explanation as to how I'm wrong. You might want to ask someone else to do this for you, based on what I've seen from you so far.

Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.

The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.

Ill just start off with this:

Traditionally on propositional lines the general consensus of the public is to lay the heavy juice.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by ThaChad) 2 runs up lets see if ~~beckett~~ okajima comes out and holds it steady

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: It's ok, Rays fans... you are apart of something magical. Yes indeed, a World Series appearance and win

10/18/08

0	(Edited by bayareabeast21) Madden is the first manager in MLB History to hit and run with noone on base.

10/18/08

0	The '04 Yankees blew a 3-0 series lead but they never blew a 7-0 lead in a game. Thats bad.

10/18/08

0	Hideki is in

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: The '04 Yankees blew a 3-0 series lead but they never blew a 7-0 lead in a game. Thats bad. with 2 outs in the bottom 7th may i add... that was bad for TB.

10/18/08

0	Madden puts on the swing sign

10/18/08

2	bayareabeast21 wrote: The '04 Yankees blew a 3-0 series lead but they never blew a 7-0 lead in a game. Thats bad. Other teams have blown 7-0 leads in a game. No other MLB team has ever blown a 3-0 series lead.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by bayareabeast21) Swing says Madden, swing goddamnit

10/18/08

0	Pena waves at it and misses

10/18/08

0	Pena just really wasn't able to deliver that time, skip.

10/18/08

0	what?? 3-2?? should have been a K

10/18/08

0	there we go! Right down the middle.

10/18/08

0	Are you f'in kidding me? Thats not a strike.

10/18/08

0	Rays are getting hosed.

10/18/08

0	I gotta imagine having McClelland as an ump is frustrating, no sound, you think you've walked, you head towards 1st, and then "Strike 3!"

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: Rays are getting hosed. Rays are getting ~~hosed~~ schooled. Fixed.

10/18/08

0	McLellan is a circus act back there

10/18/08

0	Walked him. Dang it

10/18/08

0	How bout one of your signature triples Crawford? Show us how you can fly.

10/18/08

0	Shoot one into the gap, Carl.

10/18/08

0	How will Francona put Papelbon in...? We'll need him tomorrow too.

10/18/08

0	inning over.

10/18/08

0	Had him played perfect, look at that.

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: How will Francona put Papelbon in...? We'll need him tomorrow too. Papelbon should only pitch 1 inning tonight, and then he'll be available as needed tomorrow. Of course, the whole staff will be available as needed tomorrow, except for Matsuzaka, who will probably be the Game 1 starter against the Phillies at Fenway.

10/18/08

0	(Edited by Chris) Pat wrote: Papelbon should only pitch 1 inning tonight, and then he'll be available as needed tomorrow. Of course, the whole staff will be available as needed tomorrow, except for Matsuzaka, who will probably be the Game 1 starter against the Phillies at Fenway. he clocked him! -- Hopefully the other relievers can take the Rays down and have Pap for the save

10/18/08

0	Big hit now makes big cushion.

10/18/08

0	ok. only need a base hit now

10/18/08

0	Time to take down Balfour! BrInG iT oN!

10/18/08

0	Walk. 2 on

10/18/08

0	How bout another homah, Tek!

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: How bout another homah, Tek! What the f is a homah?

10/18/08

0	WILD PITCH

10/18/08

0	(Edited by Chris) Anthonyg7575 wrote: What the f is a homah? New England accent... geez... [i was born in Prov, RI lived in RI for 10 yrs] Homer is pronounced "Hom-ah" in New England.

10/18/08

0	wow i thought that was a K....

10/18/08

0	Time for the Rays to get some runs.

10/18/08

0	argh... more LOB. BOS 11 LOB, TB 3. So the maximum possible score to this point could have been 15-5. Ouch... that hurts for Boston.

10/18/08

0	If the Rays can actually tighten up and stop beating themselves.......

10/18/08

0	Anthonyg7575 wrote: If the Rays can actually tighten up and stop beating themselves....... The Red Sox are beating themselves. This game should've been over by now.

10/18/08

0	The Rays are not playing well at all. The Red Sox have totally turned the tables and are the better team right now. Its not really looking good at all.

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: argh... more LOB. BOS 11 LOB, TB 3. So the maximum possible score to this point could have been 15-5. Ouch... that hurts for Boston. Boston shouldn't have even had that many. Too many poor miscues from the Rays. Errors/Walks. Boston is not beating the Rays, the Rays are beating the Rays.

10/18/08

0	Okajima is deceptive.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: The Rays are not playing well at all. The Red Sox have totally turned the tables and are the better team right now. Its not really looking good at all. It's not that they are the better team. When you walk guys and make careless errors, you are going to get beat.

10/18/08

0	Another out in foul territory.

10/18/08

0	Well, so much for this crap....I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll wake up to a Series bound headline in the paper tomorrow. If not, I have Game 7 tickets....

10/18/08

0	Anthonyg7575 wrote: Boston shouldn't have even had that many. Too many poor miscues from the Rays. Errors/Walks. Boston is not beating the Rays, the Rays are beating the Rays. whaaaaaaaaaat? And Shields' performance allowing hits and Red Sox pounding runs off him is the Rays beating themselves? Helloooo... we are the defending World Champions. Give us SOME accolades... geez

10/18/08

0	End 7th!

10/18/08

0	Chris wrote: whaaaaaaaaaat? And Shields' performance allowing hits and Red Sox pounding runs off him is the Rays beating themselves? Helloooo... we are the defending World Champions. Give us SOME accolades... geez I can't give accolades to a team that gets hits due to walks and errors. 0 Errors = No chance at any pounding.....Don't give your team all the credit.

10/18/08

0	The Red Sox are limp. I want to see a new team in there.

10/18/08

0	Throw strikes Balfour wtf dude bear down

10/18/08

0	Yet ANOTHER friggin walk.....

10/18/08

5

10/18/08

0

Anthonyg7575 wrote:

I can't give accolades to a team that gets hits due to walks and errors. 0 Errors = No chance at any pounding.....Don't give your team all the credit.

how can you hit on walks and errors? Thats different stuff. Now, getting hits with walks and errors, that, yes, the Sox are doing but not cashing in well. Blame Shields and Bartlett for walks and errors. Boston did their part to take the lead. Game 6 Sox lead: 75% Boston's work, 25% Tampa's oopsies.

10/18/08

0	Anthonyg7575 wrote: Well, so much for this crap....I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll wake up to a Series bound headline in the paper tomorrow. If not, I have Game 7 tickets.... Sorry about those Game 7 tickets. I feel bad for you, man. That's going to be painful.

10/18/08

0	No it'll be awesome for Rays fans, a historic moment for their organization.

10/18/08

0	Get a ground ball son

10/18/08

1	So he throws a submarine slider to first base, damn man way to make it interesting when it doesn't have to be.

10/18/08

0	ooh did Pena come off the bag?? That was close. RISP nonetheless.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: No it'll be awesome for Rays fans, a historic moment for their organization. Every game is a historic moment for their organization. It helps when the franchise has almost no history. For example... this is their first Game 6 of any league championship series. That's historic. But not awesome for them.

10/18/08

0	Madden still in there drinking blood?

10/18/08

0	2 on... chance for big damage! Youuuuuuuuuuuk!

10/18/08

0	Argh if only that stayed fair

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: Every game is a historic moment for their organization. It helps when the franchise has almost no history. For example... this is their first Game 6 of any league championship series. That's historic. But not awesome for them. What is this joker trying to claim now, that the Rays first pennant isn't a historic moment?

10/18/08

0	Dang it. Bottom 8th. @Youk's GIDP

10/18/08

0	Common Masterson Hold This Lead!

10/18/08

0	Bats better wake up real quick, running out of time Tampa.

10/18/08

0	ugh i get nervous with Masterson

10/18/08

0

Chris wrote:

how can you hit on walks and errors? Thats different stuff. Now, getting hits with walks and errors, that, yes, the Sox are doing but not cashing in well. Blame Shields and Bartlett for walks and errors. Boston did their part to take the lead. Game 6 Sox lead: 75% Boston's work, 25% Tampa's oopsies.

You know damn well that the error prolonged the inning for the Sox, and looking back to the 3rd, a walk set up a run. It should be 2-2. Can't do anything about the HR's. Don't say that it's 75% Boston's work. Not even close.

10/18/08

0	Oh, Masterson, cripe sakes... don't do this

10/18/08

0	thats not the way we needed this inning to start, now we need a double play ball

10/18/08

0	Need to get Pap ready. I don't think Masterson has control.

10/18/08

0	Get him out, he's horrible. No control.

10/18/08

1

bayareabeast21 wrote:

What is this joker trying to claim now, that the Rays first pennant isn't a historic moment?

Apparently I overestimated your intelligence, although considering how low my estimate was, I didn't think that was possible.

What I'm saying is that the Rays won't win the pennant. It seemed obvious enough to me.

And win or lose, tomorrow will be a historic evening for the Rays. Even if they lose, it will be their first Game 7 in franchise history. You're obviously extremely confused, because you have no clue whatsoever what I was saying.

Historic, YES. Awesome? Well... not for Rays fans.

10/18/08

0	Lets get out of this mess

10/18/08

1	Chris wrote: Get him out, he's horrible. No control. No, he's not horrible. He'll be fine.

10/18/08

0	YES! thank goodness. Strikeout

10/18/08

1	Im getting sick of this reverse curse or whatever you want to call it.

10/18/08

0	Pat wrote: No, he's not horrible. He'll be fine. he needed some pep talks.

10/18/08

0	Upton needs to deliver right here, at least a single.

10/18/08

0	OOOH right in the pouch! LOL

10/18/08

0	POP UP! He couldn't hit... nut-shot put some pain in his gut. He wanted to get out of there. LOL

10/18/08

0	YES!!!!!!!! END 8TH!!! 3 OUTS LEFT FOR THE RAYS, AND PAP WILL BE UP FOR THE SAVE! WOOHOO!

10/18/08

0	yes nice masterson good way of working out of the 8th one more inning to go!

10/18/08

0	Cal better beat Arizona tonight, they're my last leg of a 6 teamer.

10/18/08

1

(Edited by bayareabeast21)

This is how its done dawgs

I

(Play) [Pending: $100.00] Parlay (ML): 6 teams. Risking $100.00, to win $982.98.Ticket Id:XXXXXXXX

American League Championship | (TAM 3-2)
Total under 9 -115 [Both] on BOS [J Beckett -R] - TAM [J Shields -R] [Sat, Oct 18 8:05PM] [MLB]
Tennessee U -300 [Both] on Mississippi St - Tennessee U [Sat, Oct 18 7:00PM] [College Football ML]
Texas -170 [Both] on Missouri - Texas [Sat, Oct 18 8:00PM] [College Football ML]
NO Illinois -350 [Both] on Toledo - NO Illinois [Sat, Oct 18 4:00PM] [College Football ML]
California -135 [Both] on California - Arizona U [Sat, Oct 18 10:00PM][College Football ML]
Houston U -450 [Both] on Houston U - SMU [Sat, Oct 18 8:00PM] [College Football ML]

Sat, Oct 18 3:59PM

10/18/08

1	Its gonna be tough to get 2 off Papelbon.

10/18/08

0	This is it! For game 7!

10/18/08

0	1 out

10/18/08

0	Chris, just out of curiosity how are you a Red Sox fan and a Spurs fan again?

10/18/08

0	Common Papelbon You Can Do It, One Out To Go!

10/18/08

0	2 down

10/18/08

0	There it is. I'd be shocked if the Red Sox don't win game 7.

10/18/08

0	bayareabeast21 wrote: Chris, just out of curiosity how are you a Red Sox fan and a Spurs fan again? Refer to comment: New England accent... geez... [i was born in Prov, RI lived in RI for 10 yrs] Homer is pronounced "Hom-ah" in New England. Born-in Sox/Patriots fan, moved to San Antonio and learned to watch and play basketball.

10/18/08

0	GAME 7 OUT SHORTLY

10/18/08

0	This series is over. The Rays have no chance whatsoever in Game 7. Sorry, Tampa Bay fans. The writing is on the wall.

10/18/08

2	Red Sox fans you should be very proud of your team. What they repeatedly do for you is ridiculous.

10/19/08

1	Game 7!!!! Keep The Faith and Believe

10/19/08

0	The looks on all those Rays fans a priceless... except for that last woman in tears. Thats wrong to call that priceless... GAME 7! TOMORROW AT 5! SEE YOU TOMORROW, AND ~~PERHAPS~~ MOST LIKELY THE WORRRRRRRLD SERIES!

10/19/08

2

bayareabeast21 wrote:

Red Sox fans you should be very proud of your team. What they repeatedly do for you is ridiculous.

This is true. I know people think I'm cocky when I predict things like this to happen, but don't ever think that I take it for granted. I have been extremely fortunate to be able to witness the last few years of Red Sox baseball, especially considering the millions who died without ever seeing them win a ring.

Don't ever forget your roots, fellow Sox fans.

10/19/08

0	5 Pacific... sorry. LOL!

10/19/08

2	Tampa... Be very, VERY afraid

10/19/08

0

(Edited by Chris)
Pat wrote:

This is true. I know people think I'm cocky when I predict things like this to happen, but don't ever think that I take it for granted. I have been extremely fortunate to be able to witness the last few years of Red Sox baseball, especially considering the millions who died without ever seeing them win a ring.

Don't ever forget your roots, fellow Sox fans.

that included my grandfather who i grew up watching the Red Sox play... when i had tears talking to my grandma later that night in 2004, i told her that was for him. Red Sox need to win this World Series... so i can say it was in honor for my grandma, who passed back in July. This generation of Red Sox Nation will never be replaced! So many series comebacks and memories that will last in our lifetime.

Red Sox Nation for life. It can't get any better. GOD BLESS THE BOSTON RED SOX!! WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!! I LOVE IT!

10/19/08

1

I have come to a realization after reading the live threads of games 5 and 6. (After the fact as I do not type well and it would interfere with my enjoying the game). First of all there are some sports educated and articulate fans on this site. My opinion may be biased because I am a home grown Sox fan but, the knowledgeable fans seem to be Boston fans. New England baseball is more than just the occasional thing to do in the summer. Like anywhere else we have the late comers enjoying the recent success of our beloved Sox, but it is actually much more than that. I could never explain it to you so I won’t even try.

The Tampa fans on this thread seem to have recently and somewhat annoyingly joined a conversation that has been going on long before they walked up. You can try to argue your points but you don’t know how the conversation started or where it is going. I can’t help to think that this metaphor could be used to describe that the Rays in the post season. They find themselves in unfamiliar territory and the longer they stick around they realize they may have spoke to soon and put their foot in their mouth. I and every Sox fan respect the Rays. They are a great team that has had an amazing season. Your time is over. We can handle it from here, thanks for the good times. We’ll see you next year…

10/19/08

0	Lester in game 7... could it even get any better?

10/19/08

0

bayareabeast21 wrote:

This is how its done dawgs

I

(Play) [Pending: $100.00] Parlay (ML): 6 teams. Risking $100.00, to win $982.98.Ticket Id:XXXXXXXX

American League Championship | (TAM 3-2)
Total under 9 -115 [Both] on BOS [J Beckett -R] - TAM [J Shields -R] [Sat, Oct 18 8:05PM] [MLB]
Tennessee U -300 [Both] on Mississippi St - Tennessee U [Sat, Oct 18 7:00PM] [College Football ML]
Texas -170 [Both] on Missouri - Texas [Sat, Oct 18 8:00PM] [College Football ML]
NO Illinois -350 [Both] on Toledo - NO Illinois [Sat, Oct 18 4:00PM] [College Football ML]
California -135 [Both] on California - Arizona U [Sat, Oct 18 10:00PM][College Football ML]
Houston U -450 [Both] on Houston U - SMU [Sat, Oct 18 8:00PM] [College Football ML]

Sat, Oct 18 3:59PM

Ouch.

10/19/08

2	Comebacks? Comebacks? Ya’all talking about comebacks? Section 144, Row MM, Seat 24 Would someone from Southie who will be at game 7 find this guy and shut him up?

10/19/08

0	ghohmann wrote: Lester in game 7... could it even get any better? What are you? A Rays fan or a Sox fan?

10/19/08

0	Are you kidding me? Because and only because you are a Rays fan, and that you are misguided and possibly a fool I will answer that. I am a Red Sox fan.

10/19/08

0	ghohmann wrote: Are you kidding me? Because and only because you are a Rays fan, and that you are misguided and possibly a fool I will answer that. I am a Red Sox fan. No I am not kidding, because you have both the Red Sox and Rays listed as your favorive teams..... So I was just wondering. You are the fool.....

10/19/08

0	(Edited by ghohmann) Anthonyg7575 wrote: No I am not kidding, because you have both the Red Sox and Rays listed as your favorive teams..... So I was just wondering. You are the fool..... Read "My Take" on Tampa Scooby

10/19/08

0	You get it now?

10/19/08

0	(Edited by Anthonyg7575) ghohmann wrote: You get it now? Typical..... I hope you jinxed them.

10/19/08

0	Anthonyg7575 wrote: Typical..... I hope you jinxed them. Hope is all you got Sunshine. Guess what? It ain't enough.

10/19/08

0	ghohmann wrote: Hope is all you got Sunshine. Guess what? It ain't enough. Keep talkin', the jinx meter is just continuing to go up.

10/19/08

0	Anthonyg7575 wrote: Keep talkin', the jinx meter is just continuing to go up. Anthony? If we win tonight will you go away?

10/19/08

1

ghohmann wrote:

Anthony? If we win tonight will you go away?

You're setting your goals all wrong. Anthony doesn't need to go away. DrCommento, on the other hand...

Well, he'll be gone anyway. He disappeared after Game 1, and made a brief appearance after the Rays won 3 in a row, and has been gone ever since. I don't see him having the stones to come back.

As far as Anthony, he's not half bad, really.

10/19/08

0

Pat wrote:

I'd love to hear an intelligent explanation as to how I'm wrong. You might want to ask someone else to do this for you, based on what I've seen from you so far.

Anyway, with the way Shields was pitching, there's not many reasons why the line would be as big as you made it. I'm just saying.

The Sox had scored in 40%(2/5) of the previous innings, and Shields' pitch count was getting pretty high. No reason to believe the Sox wouldn't score in that inning.

How many beers did Pat drink last night?

Over 8.5 +115
Under 8.5 -110

10/19/08

0	Seriously Pat let me give you a piece of advice, don't ever talk about sports betting again.

10/19/08

0	(Edited by ghohmann) OK, Sorry Anthony. I just get tired of all the nonsense. Even with us disagreeing on the direction the game will go tonight, could we be friends? I am very loyal and supportive of my friends however misguided they may be. You don't have to answer now. You could wait until after tonight. You may need a ride if your car turns into a pumpkin.

10/19/08

0

bayareabeast21 wrote:

Seriously Pat let me give you a piece of advice, don't ever talk about sports betting again.

1. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Straight bet. Risking $50.00, to win $28.57. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 Chicago -175 on Minnesota - Chicago [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]	Sun, Oct 19 5:54AM
2. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Straight bet. Risking $50.00, to win $62.50. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 Baltimore + 125 on Baltimore - Miami [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]	Sun, Oct 19 5:54AM
3. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Straight bet. Risking $50.00, to win $45.45. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 St. Louis +7½ -110 on Dallas - St. Louis [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL]	Sun, Oct 19 5:54AM
4. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Straight bet. Risking $50.00, to win $45.45. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 Buffalo Pk -110 on San Diego - Buffalo [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL]

10/19/08

0

5. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Parlay (ML): 3 teams. Risking $50.00, to win $43.42. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 Tennessee -365 on Tennessee - Kansas City [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML] NFL - Week 7 Pittsburgh -450 on Pittsburgh - Cincinnati [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML] NFL - Week 7 NY Giants -500 on San Francisco - NY Giants [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]	Sun, Oct 19 6:01AM
6. [Pending]	$50.00	(Play) [Pending: $50.00] Straight bet. Risking $50.00, to win $30.30. Ticket Id:XXXXXX NFL - Week 7 Carolina -165 on New Orleans - Carolina [Sun, Oct 19 1:00PM] [NFL ML]	Sun, Oct 19 5:58AM

10/19/08

0	Straight bets risking 50 to win 30 and such will not get you anywhere in the long run. Wow dude are you kidding me? You risked 50 to win 43 on a 3 team parlay on NFL? If you want to make some money you need to do some teasers and parlays and such.

10/19/08

0

bayareabeast21 wrote:

Seriously Pat let me give you a piece of advice, don't ever talk about sports betting again.

Oh yeah... and about that 6-teamer that you missed on...

1. [Won]

$23.00

(Play) [Won: $23.00] Straight bet. Risking $20.00, to win $23.00. Ticket Id:217362

[Win] Arizona U + 115 on California - Arizona U [Sat, Oct 18 10:00PM] [College Football ML]

Yeah... ouch. I might not make the big dollar bets that you do, but I probably make more money anyway. Funny how that works, huh?

10/19/08

0

bayareabeast21 wrote:

Straight bets risking 50 to win 30 and such will not get you anywhere in the long run.

Wow dude are you kidding me? You risked 50 to win 43 on a 3 team parlay on NFL?

If you want to make some money you need to do some teasers and parlays and such.

No... if you want to make money, you pick winners. Period.

That's MY strategy. I don't really care how you choose to do it. My way works fine.

10/19/08

0	If you continuously risk 50 to win 30, you will need to hit 62.5% just to break even. What you are doing is not the way to bet Pat. Its one of the worst ways you could possibly bet actually.

10/19/08

0

Pat wrote:

Oh yeah... and about that 6-teamer that you missed on...

1. [Won]

$23.00

(Play) [Won: $23.00] Straight bet. Risking $20.00, to win $23.00. Ticket Id:217362

[Win] Arizona U + 115 on California - Arizona U [Sat, Oct 18 10:00PM] [College Football ML]

Yeah... ouch. I might not make the big dollar bets that you do, but I probably make more money anyway. Funny how that works, huh?

No you don't. But you could if you let me talk a little sense into you.

10/19/08

0	You are at least showing me some potential by picking some dogs on the ml. Thats pretty good. Most noobs shy away from that.

10/19/08

0

bayareabeast21 wrote:

If you continuously risk 50 to win 30, you will need to hit 62.5% just to break even. What you are doing is not the way to bet Pat. Its one of the worst ways you could possibly bet actually.

Funny thing about that is... the "50 to win 30" bets are pretty much the absolute minimum that I'll accept. If they're making me any less than that, they get parlayed. And I hit well over 62.5% on the games I bet, so it's cool.

If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that I'm on pace to go 8-0 for the 1:00 games. For those of you scoring at home, that's 100%.

And I don't bet dogs or favorites. I bet winners. So the payout is irrelevant, to be honest.

10/19/08

0

An example of a solid teaser. Instead of doing a 3 team parlay on the ml laying the kind of juice you are, if you did a 3 team teaser instead it would pat you out at 1.6 to 1 on a 3 teamer.

You are throwing away ridiculous amounts of money betting the way you do.

(Play) [Pending: $400.00] Teaser (College Football: 6.5pts.): 4 teams. Risking$400.00, to win $1,000.00. Ticket Id:XXXXXXXX

Mississippi St +1½ (Teased 6½ points to spread: 8) -110 on Vanderbilt - Mississippi St [Sat, Oct 11 2:30PM] [College Football]
Central Michigan -7½ (Teased 6½ points to spread: -1) -110 on Temple - Central Michigan [Sat, Oct 11 4:00PM] [College Football]
Georgia -13½ (Teased 6½ points to spread: -7) -110 on Tennessee U - Georgia [Sat, Oct 11 3:30PM] [College Football]
North Carolina -8 (Teased 6½ points to spread: -1½) -110 on Notre Dame - North Carolina [Sat, Oct 11 3:30PM] [College Football]

10/20/08