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3/12/08

Yankees and Rays Brawl in Spring Training Rematch

MLB, New York Yankees, Tampa Bay Rays, Jonny Gomes, Shelley Duncan, MLB Fight

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Updated with video now. Not much of a fight. I was hoping Jonny Gomes went all Terry Tate on Shelley Duncan, but either way, we'll settle for any kind of Spring Training bench clearing brawl.

You had to expect something would happen this afternoon in the first Rays-Yankees meeting since Francisco Cervelli had his wrist broken by a hard play at the plate.

How dare a player trying to make the roster try hard. The Yanks whined all weekend about the play and feel Spring Training games should be taken lightly. Well, that is everyone except Shelley Duncan.

From Peter Abraham's live blog of today's game:

WE HAVE A BRAWL

Shelley Duncan (of course) started the top of the second with a single. He tried to go to second as the ball rolled behind third base and was out by five feet. Duncan slid in with his spikes exceedingly high at Akinori Iwamura and was tagged out. He was immediately ejected.

Tampa Bay right fielder Jonny Gomes raced over and tackled Duncan and the benches cleared. There didn’t seem to be any punches thrown.

Gomes has been ejected as well. So were Bobby Meacham and Kevin Long.

I would think Duncan would get suspended for what he did. It was pretty blatant.

UPDATE: Just to make it clear, Duncan slid in with his right spike high in the air. Whether you think it was right or not is your call, but that’s what he did.

These teams play two more times in spring training and 18 times during the season. I suspect we’ll see plenty more fireworks.

Awesome. You can bet we'll have video as soon as it's available. In the meantime, I'm immediately adding Jonny Gomes to my fantasy team.

Update: No video yet, but here's a quality pick of where Shelley Duncan's high slide landed. Akinori!!

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479 days ago

Boski93

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You can take the Rays from the Devil, but you can't take the Devil out of the RAYS!

479 days ago

kantwistaye

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Ahh yes. Passionate play from white baseball players!!... if baseball was predominantly black these guys would be labeled as thugs.

479 days ago

Boski93

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You can take the Rays from the Devil, but you can't take the Devil out of the RAYS!

479 days ago

Gazzo

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(Edited 03/12/08 4:25PM by Gazzo)

I'm almost offended by the tone that you have taken with this blog post, but then I'm used to the Yankee haters by now. You make it sound like the Yankees are wrong for being upset. Johnson was wrong. Cervelli was barely blocking the plate, Johnson should have went around him. The score of these games doesn't matter remember! They were winning for pete's sake. Don't make this out to be the Yankees fault. Shelley Duncan, while a little too blatant, had every right to take out Iwamura. I can't wait till the big boys get at it in the regular season.

479 days ago

Jon

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Looks like Iwamura almost got Pied.

479 days ago

PresEmart

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Very very cheap move on the yankees part... how classless

479 days ago

IlliniBob72

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(Edited 03/12/08 11:35PM by IlliniBob72)
RenegadeLG wrote:

I can understand the Rays wanting to exploit any opportunity to one up the Yanks, even in a meaningless Spring game, because they're an immature organization but I agree that coming after the Yankees for putting the Rays back in their place is beyond mental.

Usually I like what you have to say, but I'm having a difficult time understanding what you're trying to say here. Going through a catcher blocking the plate is legal. Going into 2nd with the spikes up near the noots is not legal.

479 days ago

CriticalFanatic

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RenegadeLG wrote:

Please explain what the Rays did wrong?

478 days ago

chad_is_god

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I'm confused...

"UPDATE: Just to make it clear, Duncan slid in with his right spike high in the air. Whether you think it was right or not is your call, but that’s what he did."

Yet the picture shows a left spike! Ironically you didn't make it more clear for me, but you confused me more!

478 days ago

IlliniBob72

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After seeing the video, it was definitely illegal and indefensible. I figured he was trying to break up a DP or something. No, he was going in to injure. He had no interest in actually getting into 2nd safely.

478 days ago

IlliniBob72

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RenegadeLG wrote:

I just like old school baseball. He was wearing a cup.

They wear helmets. Do you also condone throwing at the head?

478 days ago

Gazzo

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PresEmart wrote:

Very very cheap move on the yankees part... how classless

Your kidding right?

478 days ago

Gazzo

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

Please explain what the Rays did wrong?

What the Rays did wrong? You posted a video that shows exactly what they did wrong. I can't believe you have to ask that question. Not to mention that that is the second catcher the Rays have put out of commission in SPRING TRAINING!

478 days ago

Gazzo

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IlliniBob72 wrote:

He knew that he was out and saw the opportunity to get back at them. IMO he went to far. His slide is indefensible, but the thought process and the intent is not. I think he just got a little too caught up in the whole thing, and wanted to show the guys that he is part of the team too.

478 days ago

IlliniBob72

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Gazzo wrote:

OK, I'll buy that. Pitchers will throw at guys when one of theirs is hit, even by a slow curveball. You're right, he did go too far. Unless I'm wrong, the Rays had one of their guys thrown at. It should have ended there. Hell, if they want to run the catcher on a legit play at the plate, go for it. But going in spikes high was too much.

478 days ago

Gazzo

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IlliniBob72 wrote:

The pitcher that was tossed in the 1st inning was making his first start, and it was an unscheduled one at that (Pettitte was supposed to pitch and was scratched about an hour before the game). He just had horrible control, and was probably nervous as all hell. I highly doubt that the guy was throwing at anyone.

478 days ago

IlliniBob72

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RenegadeLG wrote:

Throwing a blunt object 95 mph doesn't exactly compare. Possibly dying and having to ice your marbles are different levels of truth.

Touche'

478 days ago

PresEmart

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Gazzo wrote: