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11/23/08
Week 12 NFL Live Thread
Another Week, Another Likely Lions Loss. Alliterate With Us Here [NFL Live Thread]

It's time for week 12 football, and it's shaping up to be another entertaining week. Wondering which games you'll get to see this week? Check out the network maps here.

Each individual game page is listed below.

Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs 1 p.m. CBS
New England Patriots at Miami Dolphins 1 p.m. CBS
New York Jets at Tennessee Titans 1 p.m. CBS
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons 1 p.m. FOX
Philadelphia Eagles at Baltimore Ravens 1 p.m. FOX
San Francisco 49ers at Dallas Cowboys 1 p.m. FOX
Houston Texans at Cleveland Browns 1 p.m. CBS
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Detroit Lions 1 p.m. FOX
Minnesota Vikings at Jacksonville Jaguars 1 p.m. FOX
Chicago Bears at St. Louis Rams 1 p.m. FOX
Oakland Raiders at Denver Broncos 4:05 p.m. CBS
New York Giants at Arizona Cardinals 4:15 p.m. FOX
Washington Redskins at Seattle Seahawks 4:15 p.m. FOX
Indianapolis Colts at San Diego Chargers 8:15 p.m. NBC


In the biggest games (historically speaking), the Titans looks to stay undefeated against the NY Bretts, and the 1976 Buccaneers have the champagne on ice, waiting for the Lions to trip up and finally win one. Will it happen this week against the Bucs themselves? Probably not. But stay tuned to find out and be sure to discuss the games here or on the game pages if you're watching them.

Enjoy the games.
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Picks for today:

Cowboys over 49ers 34-16
Philly over Baltimore 20-16 (this one worries me)
Browns over Texans 31-27 (I hate both of these teams)
Tampa over Lions 24-9
Jags over Vikings 19-17
Bills over Chiefs 24-23
Patriots over Dolphins 24-20
Bears over Rams 24-6
Titans over Fight'n Favres 24-20
Broncos over Raiders 24-17
Panthers over Falcons 24-17
Giants over Cardinals 30-20
Redskins over Seahawks 20-13
Colts over Chargers 30-27
Packers over Saints 31-20

 
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MrNFL wrote:
Picks for today:

Cowboys over 49ers 34-16
Philly over Baltimore 20-16 (this one worries me)
Browns over Texans 31-27 (I hate both of these teams)
Tampa over Lions 24-9
Jags over Vikings 19-17
Bills over Chiefs 24-23
Patriots over Dolphins 24-20
Bears over Rams 24-6
Titans over Fight'n Favres 24-20
Broncos over Raiders 24-17
Panthers over Falcons 24-17
Giants over Cardinals 30-20
Redskins over Seahawks 20-13
Colts over Chargers 30-27
Packers over Saints 31-20

My pick for the day:

Lions suck.
 
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RenegadeLG wrote:
Not even factoring the spread which could get ugly for you (24-17 Broncos, LOL), there's 5-8 losses there depending on how the games that scare me go.
No way San Fran or the Rams come close in those games.  No need to be worried there.  And San Diego has proven to be less than stellar, Colts will pull it off.

I don't know what other ones your seeing, of course your probably still on the Cardinals cock. 
 
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RenegadeLG wrote:
 Vikings, Dolphins, Falcons and yes I am still going down on Warner & Co.

The Vikings screw me every week (win when I pick loss, lose when I pick win), but so do the Jaguars and I had to pick one.
At least the first 3 are games that could go either way.  I hear you 100% on Vikes/Jags. 
 
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Holy crap, Ed Werder is reporting on a game that DOESN'T feature the Cowboys!?!?!?!

The Apocalypse has arrived.
 
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No Gus Johnson this week.  Disappointing.
 
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I need the Phins and the Phillies to win 4 the Dolphins Wild Card spot
 
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VIkings score, Brad Meester didn't realize Garrard was in shotgun, yikes!
 
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Awesome, Matt Forte is on my fantasy team

 
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Bears up 7-0 already. Vikings up 14-0. Joy.

Jets on the board as well.
 
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The Lions cruelly tease their fans again by taking another early lead.
 
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RenegadeLG wrote:
Seriously? He's a God in NCAA Basketball or whatever, but I think he sucks calling anything else. Pays way too close attention to the punters and their hangtime/stats. And I noticed Werder reporting on the Jets/Titans too. Hilarious.

Vikings 14 Jags 0.. although I have no faith in that lead holding.
I think he's solid doing football, although not nearly what he is for basketball.  He's still better then half of the Fox guys.  Unfortunately, he's with CBS.  I'd put him over Ian Eagle's crew, and probably 3 or 4 of the Fox crews.

One guy I think is VERY under-rated, Matt Vasgersian.  It's a shame he's always stuck with the Lions or some other crappy game.

And I'm STILL trying to figure out how Buck/Aikman got sent to Dallas instead of NYG/ARI.
 
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gearhead wrote:
The Lions cruelly tease their fans again by taking another early lead.
Most of the people in here in Michigan don't even get any hope unless it's a 4th quarter lead.  THEN their dreams get crushed again.
 
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Hey Cowboy fans, anybody want to argue that wasn't pass interference?  Should be first and goal at the one but at least we got 3.

3-0 Niners
 
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Punt return for a TD. 14-0 Lions.
 
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LOL Titans/Jets.  "Let's go to James Brown with a gamebreak." (Dead air for 10 seconds)
 
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rootman54 wrote:
WTH.  The Lions are up 14-0 and I can't watch

The biggest lead of the year!
That's just so cruel, because we know they'll blow it somehow.
 
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LOL!  Well played Dolphins Stadium with use of the Price is Right losing horns.
 
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rootman54 wrote:
17-0 Lions
It begins...TD Tampa
 
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rootman54 wrote:
It continues...17-14 Lions
Horrible coverage begats a big touchdown pass. In a perverse way, this is the most fascinating game of the day.
 
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Interception Ronde Barber. Wheels, they are falling off.
 
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Touchdown the very next play. 21-17 Bucs.
 
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And now the Buccaneers lead.

Only the Lions could blow a 3 possession lead in a quarter.
 
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The way the Eagles and Ravens defenses are playing, this could be a 3-3, maybe even 0-0 tie lol.
 
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rootman54 wrote:
Well OKlahoma certainly got no love in the AP poll.  Theyre third behing Bama and Florida...that'll soon change.
Good thing all of the best teams get a chance to be the champ....OH WAIT...
 
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OK nevermind. Way to go guys! When does baseball start?
 
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Punt return touchdown for Tampa. 28-17.
 
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If Tennessee's offense doesn't wake up soon, the 11-0 vs. 0-11 Thanksgiving dream is in big trouble.
 
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20-3 Jets.  Goodbye unbeaten season.
 
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OMG!!  I  Brett Favre!
 
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Eagles bench Mcnabb at the half.  Put in Kevin Kolb.  WOOO
 
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The Lions recovered a fumble, and it looked like they might finally catch a break.

Two plays later, Ronde Barber interception taken to the house. 35-17. Culpepper has been pulled for Drew Stanton.
 
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Adam wrote:
Eagles bench Mcnabb at the half.  Put in Kevin Kolb.  WOOO
Yikes..
 
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If you're wondering why I haven't posted anything, take a look at the Chiefs/Bills score, then I'll go back into my time of silence.
 
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Adam wrote:
Eagles bench Mcnabb at the half.  Put in Kevin Kolb.  WOOO
Nice result huh? Put him back in.
 
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Andy Reid and Romeo Crennel need to be fired

Andy Reid is lucky that he is in his final year of the contract
 
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Rams are getting their ass handed to them.
 
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Matt Light will get suspended for sure, and more will be either suspended or fined.  BIG fight in Miami.
 
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MrNFL wrote:
Matt Light will get suspended for sure, and more will be either suspended or fined.  BIG fight in Miami.
Light and Crowder both are tossed, and probably both suspended.
 
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Cruel punishment...54-24 Bills...
 
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Gotta love the NFL. The Broncos destroyed the Raiders in week 1 in Oakland, 41-14.
10-3 Raiders at half in Denver.
 
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The Cards are doing the free kick thing after a fair catch.  I've always wanted to see this actually happen.
 
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Well that was a let down.
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
Well that was a let down.
indeed..I was getting all excited..
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
The Cards are doing the free kick thing after a fair catch.  I've always wanted to see this actually happen.
The most obscure rule in football.
 
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MrNFL wrote:
The most obscure rule in football.
Yeah.  Why the heck its in there makes no sense to me, but oh well.
 
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Wow, Denver forgot to show up today.  They should be glad that division sucks so hard, they can probably go 8-8 and win it.
 
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MrNFL wrote:
Wow, Denver forgot to show up today.  They should be glad that division sucks so hard, they can probably go 8-8 and win it.
Yep, the West in both conferences is a joke.
 
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JaMarcus Russell is 10 of 11 today.  I can't imagine that the Bronco's secondary sucks that much, so I'm going to say he must have gotten extremely lucky on some of those passes.
 
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Before 3 drives ago, the Raiders didn't have an offensive TD since week 8, over 200 plays. The last 3 drives, 3 offensive TD. Darren McFadden's having a huge game.
 
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sharapovasthigh wrote:
Yep, the West in both conferences is a joke.
Yeah, the Cardinals forfeit every other game left and win that division.
 
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Falcons/Panthers game sure seems exciting, nice 4th and goal play by Micheal Turner for a 31-21 lead.
 
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(Edited 11/23/08 6:55PM by kantwistaye)
Remember at the begining of the season when keeping Kevin Boss and trading Shockey  looked like the wrong move?  Not so much anymore.
 
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With 1:28 left and down 3, the Seahawks recovered a fumble. The very next play, Hasselbeck throws the game ending pick. It *really* sucks to be a Seattle fan right now.
 
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Damn you Fox get to the freakin BCS standing already. I don't need to hear Terry screaming like an idiot.
 
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Well Renegade, we split our differences.  Told ya the Cardinals would lose.   Although they did better than I thought they did, I still don't see them doing squat come playoff time.
 
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Jubanator14 wrote:
Damn you Fox get to the freakin BCS standing already. I don't need to hear Terry screaming like an idiot.
I'll spoil it for ya.  Someone's getting totally screwed.
 
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MrNFL wrote:
I'll spoil it for ya.  Someone's getting totally screwed.
As long as it is Texas, I am all good.
 
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Wow... that Texas/Oklahoma rating will be incredibly tight next week if the Sooners beat Oklahoma St.
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
Wow... that Texas/Oklahoma rating will be incredibly tight next week if the Sooners beat Oklahoma St.
It is already at .08, beating Ok. St next week puts OU above Texas.

Now Florida St. needs to beat Florida then Florida needs to beat Bama so OU and Texas can matchup in the BCS Title game.
 
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Jubanator14 wrote:
It is already at .08, beating Ok. St next week puts OU above Texas.

Now Florida St. needs to beat Florida then Florida needs to beat Bama so OU and Texas can matchup in the BCS Title game.
Probably will, which isn't going to make the Longhorn fans too happy next week.  Granted, Oklahoma might deserve it because of their non-conference wins over Cincy and TCU. 
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
Probably will, which isn't going to make the Longhorn fans too happy next week.  Granted, Oklahoma might deserve it because of their non-conference wins over Cincy and TCU. 
Head on over to burntorangenation.com, they were already spinning it last night at about halftime of the OU/Tech game. Basically their argument is OU played two really bad non conference teams, lost to Texas on a neutral site, didn't beat Missouri, and ran the score up on Tech.

Basically the Big 12's big four have all won the games against each other at home. If OU goes into Stillwater and beats OSU, it would be the only game the road team won which I personally think should be the trump card over Texas since their best true road game win was Kansas.
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
24!!!!!!!!
Hooray DVR!

I'm looking forward to this episode, although the season as a whole as me weary.  From the preview I saw, they bring back Tony Almeida as the main villan, which is weak
 
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Always fun to watch a huge fanbase freaking out.

I can't wait to see all the lobbying going on this week.  I can guarantee that Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma will all attempt to run up the score this week.
 
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MrNFL wrote:
Hooray DVR!

I'm looking forward to this episode, although the season as a whole as me weary.  From the preview I saw, they bring back Tony Almeida as the main villan, which is weak
Didn't he die?  That is weak. 
 
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Always fun to watch a huge fanbase freaking out.

I can't wait to see all the lobbying going on this week.  I can guarantee that Texas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma will all attempt to run up the score this week.
Well Tech is basically done. But with Texas playing A&M and OU playing OSU, running up the score is greatly encouraged against the hated instate rival.
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
Didn't he die?  That is weak. 
Yeah.  Makes real sense for Jack's dead best friend to be the main villain.

Wait, what?

 
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MrNFL wrote:
Yeah.  Makes real sense for Jack's dead best friend to be the main villain.

Wait, what?

Part of the problem I think is that the writer keep trying to one-up themselves.  Also, they just write the season as it goes on so they end up writing themselves into dead ends. 
 
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kantwistaye wrote:
Part of the problem I think is that the writer keep trying to one-up themselves.  Also, they just write the season as it goes on so they end up writing themselves into dead ends. 
Yeah.  The last season 2 years ago was alright, but you could tell the quality was lacking.  I think Redemption will be good, but I'm worried for the season at the whole.  Just don't want to see what was a fantastic show fall apart.

I remember it happening to That 70's Show a few years ago.  Sometimes you should just call it quits a season sooner.  Hopefully they prove me wrong.
 
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Redemption was pretty solid.  Its pretty much just a 2 hour preview for the season and it has a slight political message.  Wasn't bad though.
 
 
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