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12/14/08
Week 15 NFL Live Thread
Only 3 More Weeks, And Then It's Playoff Time. The Excitement Starts Now. Kinda
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Week 15 is here, and there is as much excitement as ever. The Giants, Titans and Cardinals are in, and a bunch of teams are out.

0-16 WATCH: The Lions are still primed for the Perfect(ly awful) Season. Today it's the Colts, and Peyton and his crew really need a win, so they won't be letting up. That means a loss for the Lions.

Here's today's full schedule.

Tennessee Titans at Houston Texans 1 p.m. CBS
San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs 1 p.m. CBS
Buffalo Bills at New York Jets 1 p.m. CBS
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons 1 p.m. FOX
Washington Redskins at Cincinnati Bengals 1 p.m. FOX
Detroit Lions at Indianapolis Colts 1 p.m. FOX
Green Bay Packers at Jacksonville Jaguars 1 p.m. FOX
San Francisco 49ers at Miami Dolphins 1 p.m. FOX
Seattle Seahawks at St. Louis Rams 1 p.m. FOX
Minnesota Vikings at Arizona Cardinals 4:05 p.m. FOX
New England Patriots at Oakland Raiders 4:15 p.m. CBS
Pittsburgh Steelers at Baltimore Ravens 4:15 p.m. CBS
Denver Broncos at Carolina Panthers 4:15 p.m. CBS
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys 8:15 p.m. NBC

Feel free to chat it up here or on the linked game pages above

And as always, enjoy the games.
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12/14/08
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Ok, I know all 2 of you out there are eagerly awaiting my Lock of the Week. Perfect for three weeks in a row, I'm laying off this week. Not a game out there that seems a lock vs. the spread.
However, if you wanna go bulk I'd say the majority of these games will hit:
  • Take the Jets  -7.5    That Bills group is divided and JP Losman isn't helping.
   
                                          
  • Take the Colts -17   I know, I know. SEVENTEEN points. Trust me the Buccaneers cover 2 never even slowed Manning and the Lions have personnel that wouldn't even make the Bucs squad.
  •  Take the Packers -2.5     Jacksonville will be Lambeau south with at least half the stadium in cheeesheads. You will probably see a Lambeau leap in an away stadium.
  •  Take the Raiders +6.5
  •   Take the Chargers -5.5

12/14/08
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Um, Washington?  You're losing 14-0 to the Bengals.

12/14/08
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It must be close to the Super Bowl because there were just 3 sets of commercials in the Chargers Game...One for the Tony Gonzales replay challenge of an obvious TD, another after the Extra Point from that TD, and then another set after CBS came back fort he Kickoff after the Gonzales TD...

12/14/08
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MrNFL wrote:
Um, Washington?  You're losing 14-0 to the Bengals.
Jim Zorn may not last into next week if the Skins can't come back in that game...

12/14/08
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Chiefs up 14-0

12/14/08
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14-3 Chiefs going into the half.

Tyler Thigpen with his good, solid day, despite a INT in the endzone..3 fumbles for SD, two by Phillip Rivers off of two sacks. Chiefs D is finally stepping up and making a few things happen.

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
14-3 Chiefs going into the half.

Tyler Thigpen with his good, solid day, despite a INT in the endzone..3 fumbles for SD, two by Phillip Rivers off of two sacks. Chiefs D is finally stepping up and making a few things happen.
More like the Chargers O-Line has been miserable this year...Besides Kris Dielman was kicked out of the game for trying to pull his arm back from being restrained by a Chiefs player. Kris Dielman is our best O-Lineman(Guard) at 6'4" 315 lbs!!!!!! He's a Pro-Bowler!!!!

12/14/08
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(Edited by Chief_aka_James)
WBKsports wrote:
More like the Chargers O-Line has been miserable this year...Besides Kris Dielman was kicked out of the game for trying to pull his arm back from being restrained by a Chiefs player. Kris Dielman is our best O-Lineman(Guard) at 6'4" 315 lbs!!!!!! He's a Pro-Bowler!!!!
Hey, I'll take it either way...I haven't seen the Chiefs D-line get any pressure for the past 2 months, so even if its an inept O-line they're playing against, I'll take it.

I'm a little worried to the start of this half, Thigpen's INT in the endzone takes away 7 or even 3 points, and with it just staying 14-3, and now the Chargers playing with half a field...I got a feeling there's not going to be a big cushion for long..

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
Hey, I'll take it either way...I haven't seen the Chiefs D-line get any pressure for the past 2 months, so even if its an inept O-line they're playing against, I'll take it.

I'm a little worried to the start of this half, Thigpen's INT in the endzone takes away 7 or even 3 points, and with it just staying 14-3, and now the Chargers playing with half a field...I got a feeling there's not going to be a big cushion for long..
I will take that second paragraph back now...

21-3 Chiefs.

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
I will take that second paragraph back now...

21-3 Chiefs.
Story of our season...Almost, Almost, Almost....Nope!!! Chargers have been in shambles all year....Coulda, shoulda, woulda,...Our D-Line had been atrocious all year as well...

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
Story of our season...Almost, Almost, Almost....Nope!!! Chargers have been in shambles all year....Coulda, shoulda, woulda,...Our D-Line had been atrocious all year as well...
Hey, but atleast you have that great playoff coach in Norv Turner....oh wait..

This coming from a fan of a 2-11 team, I deserve a PQ if it will make you feel better.

12/14/08
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Wow..that was back in the middle of the 2nd..its now half way through the 3rd..

12/14/08
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Now another SD O-lineman out, this time N. Hardwick...on CBS Sportsline it doesn't say how serious it is however.

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
Now another SD O-lineman out, this time N. Hardwick...on CBS Sportsline it doesn't say how serious it is however.
He jacked up his neck on a block...He's sitting up now, and moving his legs and arms, but they are bringing out the cart for him...

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
Now another SD O-lineman out, this time N. Hardwick...on CBS Sportsline it doesn't say how serious it is however.
He went to the Pro Bowl in 2006...

12/14/08
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Oh Yeah!!! 21-10 now!!! We're using O-Linemen from our our local grocery stores now!!!!

12/14/08
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Knowing Herm, he's going to do what he tried to start out the 3rd. Just run the ball and try to be as conservative as possible, hoping to run out the clock even though there's over 20 minutes left. A couple more 3 and outs, SD will get another TD and he realizes that they need to try and get to playing how they were in the 1st half..

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
Knowing Herm, he's going to do what he tried to start out the 3rd. Just run the ball and try to be as conservative as possible, hoping to run out the clock even though there's over 20 minutes left. A couple more 3 and outs, SD will get another TD and he realizes that they need to try and get to playing how they were in the 1st half..
Oh yeah!!!! 3 and out!!! Chargers gettin' the ball back!!!

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
Oh yeah!!!! 3 and out!!! Chargers gettin' the ball back!!!
*Searches for remaining eggnog in fridge and adds some more Jim Beam..*

12/14/08
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Kinda random point: I hadn't seen much of Jacksonville up to this point, but I've been really impressed by David Garrard as a leader.  He never gets down on his guys, keeps them loose, and always has a smile on his face.  He seems like a good compliment to Jack Del Rio.

12/14/08
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My god, the Colts are tied with the Lions in the 4th...

12/14/08
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kantwistaye wrote:
Kinda random point: I hadn't seen much of Jacksonville up to this point, but I've been really impressed by David Garrard as a leader.  He never gets down on his guys, keeps them loose, and always has a smile on his face.  He seems like a good compliment to Jack Del Rio.
I'm just sorry you have to watch Jacksonville and Green Bay..

12/14/08
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MrNFL wrote:
My god, the Colts are tied with the Lions in the 4th...
"Wow" moment of the day.

12/14/08
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21-10 Chiefs at the end of the 3rd.

Why I've already gone into the booze, and keep thinking its going to blow up in their faces...Well, I guess I've just been watching too many games this year.

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
*Searches for remaining eggnog in fridge and adds some more Jim Beam..*
Now I need some...!!!!

12/14/08
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That scrum was unbelievable.

12/14/08
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go chiefs go!!

12/14/08
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WOWOWOWOW on the Bills/Jets game..

12/14/08
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Can we hire Bill Cowher yet?

12/14/08
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Did you just see Jeff Triplett's face? I thought my nose bleeds profusely..

12/14/08
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MarkTheShark wrote:
Ok, I know all 2 of you out there are eagerly awaiting my Lock of the Week. Perfect for three weeks in a row, I'm laying off this week. Not a game out there that seems a lock vs. the spread.
However, if you wanna go bulk I'd say the majority of these games will hit:
  • Take the Jets  -7.5    That Bills group is divided and JP Losman isn't helping.
   
                                          
  • Take the Colts -17   I know, I know. SEVENTEEN points. Trust me the Buccaneers cover 2 never even slowed Manning and the Lions have personnel that wouldn't even make the Bucs squad.
  •  Take the Packers -2.5     Jacksonville will be Lambeau south with at least half the stadium in cheeesheads. You will probably see a Lambeau leap in an away stadium.
  •  Take the Raiders +6.5
  •   Take the Chargers -5.5
So Mark...can I just put my money down for a Pats blowout over the Raiders now?

12/14/08
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Now for Cardinals/Vikings then Pitt/Ravens soon...might have to flip between the two often.

12/14/08
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probably one of the few who took Houston in my pick ems this week. hope they can hold up!

12/14/08
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Can the Packers forfeit this upcoming game so that we can spend the next two weeks gameplanning for the Lions?

12/14/08
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wow steve slaton could you be any more clutch?!

12/14/08
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The St. Louis Rams snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory.  2nd overall draft pick....here we come

12/14/08
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Bernard Berrian with a huge punt return for the TD..Vikes up early on Arizona

12/14/08
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21-16 Chiefs, SD two-point conversion fails.

12/14/08
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Chargers recover on-side kick on Bowe fumble!!!!!!

12/14/08
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Ugh....Onside kick is recovered by SD...

12/14/08
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1:11 left, all three timeouts, and 60 yards to go...if KC ends up losing this, don't expect me to be on for the rest of the day.

12/14/08
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Philip Rivers 50 yard pass to Vincent Jackson....1st Down at the Chiefs 20!!!!!

12/14/08
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OMG!!!! LT had a touchdown and dropped the ball...3rd and 1 now from the Chiefs 10 on a Philip Rivers 9 yard scramble!!!

12/14/08
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TD Chargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/14/08
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haha @ the chiefs wow

12/14/08
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You all should be happy to know that I do not own a gun...other than that, I'm getting off now, and if I may be away longer than a week or two, there is a very good chance I just broke my computer.

12/14/08
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Still  :36 left in the game!!!! Chargers must have a good kickoff instead of squibbing that crap!!!!

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
Still  :36 left in the game!!!! Chargers must have a good kickoff instead of squibbing that crap!!!!
They squibbed it!!!!!!!!?????????????? They are only up 1 point and now the Chiefs have the ball at their own 45?????

12/14/08
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15 seconds left....KC has the ball at the 50yd line!!! NO timeouts!!!

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
You all should be happy to know that I do not own a gun...other than that, I'm getting off now, and if I may be away longer than a week or two, there is a very good chance I just broke my computer.
 Getting off!?  

12/14/08
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Just barely missed a 50 yd FG after a Delay of Game penalty by the Chargers...22-21 Chargers!!!

12/14/08
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Michael G wrote:
 Getting off!?  
Mind, get out of gutter...I'm logging off, and will not be online, or on my computer for a long time now..

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
Just barely missed a 50 yd FG after a Delay of Game penalty by the Chargers...22-21 Chargers!!!
COME ON DENVER!!! Please lose today!!!! Come on Carolina!!!!!

12/14/08
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Holy Cow.... The Cardinals have come out flat and are down 14-0 early against the Vikings

12/14/08
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2 drives for each team in Baltimore and they're already playing the field position game, surprise surprise.

12/14/08
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Tipped and it's picked by Ryan Clark!

12/14/08
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Chief_aka_James wrote:
Mind, get out of gutter...I'm logging off, and will not be online, or on my computer for a long time now..
Suicide watch for James

12/14/08
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The Steelers suck on special teams...not that people didn't already know that.

12/14/08
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(Edited by xtra_ill)
kramer wrote:
The Steelers suck on special teams...not that people didn't already know that.
I will admit, that was not good spot.

edit: I was talking about that spot by the officials that just gave the Steelers a first down.

12/14/08
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xtra_ill wrote:
I will admit, that was not good spot.

edit: I was talking about that spot by the officials that just gave the Steelers a first down.

You talking about the challenge that the Ravens just lost?  Yeah, he was a 1/2 yard short.  I guess the ref thought Russell's black helmet was the football, because that's the only thing that touched the 30-yard line.

12/14/08
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Boy, that was a horrible job of reffing.  Gary Russell DID NOT get that first down.  They will be marked down for that.

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:
You talking about the challenge that the Ravens just lost?  Yeah, he was a 1/2 yard short.  I guess the ref thought Russell's black helmet was the football, because that's the only thing that touched the 30-yard line.
Yeah that was what i was talking about.

12/14/08
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tie game

12/14/08
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MrNFL wrote:
Boy, that was a horrible job of reffing.  Gary Russell DID NOT get that first down.  They will be marked down for that.
Oh I know, that wasn't even close.  I heard "the ruling stands" and though WTF?!  Sure I'll take it, but man was that a gift.

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:

tie game

I hope we don't win by just 3 points because then all the haters will be in here crying about how the refs cheated for the Steelers.

12/14/08
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 New England 35 Raiders 14.....and the second quarter just started..

12/14/08
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xtra_ill wrote:
I hope we don't win by just 3 points because then all the haters will be in here crying about how the refs cheated for the Steelers.
That works both ways.  There are some real homers who are Steeler fans, and they'll blame the refs if we lose.  It's never the team's fault.

12/14/08
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The refs are cracking me up in Baltimore..."79 was confused, but lined up correctly."  Yeah, the refs were confused too.

12/14/08
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Apparently the Vikings arent impressed that the Cardinals won the NFC West division. 

Vikes up 28-0 as they hit the 2 minute warning in the half

12/14/08
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Scott wrote:

Apparently the Vikings arent impressed that the Cardinals won the NFC West division. 

Vikes up 28-0 as they hit the 2 minute warning in the half

Since they already got a playoff spot, are the Cards resting their players???

12/14/08
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Flacco threw a doink off the goalpost on 3rd down and Lawrence Timmons caught the ball...unfortuantely that's a dead ball when it hit the post.

12/14/08
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9 points between the Steelers and Ravens at the half...raise your hand if you didn't expect that.

12/14/08
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xtra_ill wrote:
Since they already got a playoff spot, are the Cards resting their players???
Nope....all starters are playing.  Offense has 3 turnovers that have turned into 14 points for the Vikings and Peterson and Chester Taylor are running wild over the Cardinal defense. 

12/14/08
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27-10 Panthers!!!! YES!!!! There just may be some hope....Buffalo has to beat Denver at Invesco next weekend and the Chargers have to win on the road vs. the BUCS....IF so that will set up a Denver vs. Chargers battle for the Division during the final week of the regular season!!!!!

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
27-10 Panthers!!!! YES!!!! There just may be some hope....Buffalo has to beat Denver at Invesco next weekend and the Chargers have to win on the road vs. the BUCS....IF so that will set up a Denver vs. Chargers battle for the Division during the final week of the regular season!!!!!
To be honest, that seems next to impossible.

12/14/08
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Pat wrote:
To be honest, that seems next to impossible.
Far from Impossible? Bills Beat Broncos, Chargers beat Bucs.....Chargers beat Broncos at Qualcomm both tie at 8-8 and Chargers hold the tie-breaker with a a better Division Record...Sounds like a tough road, but far from next to impossible! (DAMN, all those prep phrases)

12/14/08
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WBKsports wrote:
Far from Impossible? Bills Beat Broncos, Chargers beat Bucs.....Chargers beat Broncos at Qualcomm both tie at 8-8 and Chargers hold the tie-breaker with a a better Division Record...Sounds like a tough road, but far from next to impossible! (DAMN, all those prep phrases)
The Bills are awful, and the Bucs are better than the Chargers. Considerably.

I'm just saying.

12/14/08
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Pat wrote:
The Bills are awful, and the Bucs are better than the Chargers. Considerably.

I'm just saying.
Tampa Bay has lost 2 straight...The Chargers are better than their record....The Bills Suck, but they can put up some points...Who knows? It could be freezing in Denver next weekend...The Chargers Bucs game is at 1:00 EST...If they win, then there is that much more pressure on the Broncos to win at 1:00 PST in 40 degree weather?

I'm just saying too...I'm not giving up hope on this disastrous Chargers season...

12/14/08
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LOL   TD !!!!

12/14/08
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i believe in joseph flacco

12/14/08
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I believe in a division title, come on defense!

12/14/08
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Game...set...MATCH!  F*** YES!

12/14/08
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taylordanley wrote:
i believe in joseph flacco
I guess he didn't believe in himself, good game.

12/14/08
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Well it only took 6 years to win in Baltimore, but this team finds ways to win.  3 of the 4 playoff issues are now solved.

clinched playoff spot - CHECK
win the division - CHECK
first round bye - CHECK
homefield advantage - TBD

12/14/08
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Hey Pat, wanna go check Roethlisberger's 4th quarter stats?  130 yards, and 89 of the 92 yards gained on the TD drive were passes from Big Ben.  No turnovers, the winning TD, and 246 yards total against the #2 defense is worth some praise.  What was that QB rating the Ravens defense has held opposing QBs to this year?  Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ben surpassed that.

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:
Well it only took 6 years to win in Baltimore, but this team finds ways to win.  3 of the 4 playoff issues are now solved.

clinched playoff spot - CHECK
win the division - CHECK
first round bye - CHECK
homefield advantage - TBD
All 3 checks in one must win game.

Now after consecutive games against New England, Dallas and Baltimore, next up..................... the Titans.

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:
Hey Pat, wanna go check Roethlisberger's 4th quarter stats?  130 yards, and 89 of the 92 yards gained on the TD drive were passes from Big Ben.  No turnovers, the winning TD, and 246 yards total against the #2 defense is worth some praise.  What was that QB rating the Ravens defense has held opposing QBs to this year?  Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ben surpassed that.
He had an 81.9 in this game. Ummm... congrats?

12/14/08
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(Edited by taylordanley)
hahah look at T.O. bit**ing about the ball all the time and he can't even f***ing catch it

12/14/08
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I bet Whitten would have caught that

12/14/08
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Pat wrote:
He had an 81.9 in this game. Ummm... congrats?
The point is he actually led the team to the win in this game.  Oh my, that's something that goes against your biased bashing of him!  What was that rating?  It was some ridiculously low number like 65.  You can't admit when Roethlisberger actually helps to win the game, which he did today.

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:
The point is he actually led the team to the win in this game.  Oh my, that's something that goes against your biased bashing of him!  What was that rating?  It was some ridiculously low number like 65.  You can't admit when Roethlisberger actually helps to win the game, which he did today.
And what's your excuse for him barely showing up for the other 50 minutes of the game?

12/14/08
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kramer wrote:
The point is he actually led the team to the win in this game.  Oh my, that's something that goes against your biased bashing of him!  What was that rating?  It was some ridiculously low number like 65.  You can't admit when Roethlisberger actually helps to win the game, which he did today.
Which is why I don't understand you even bother with him.

12/14/08
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Pat wrote:
And what's your excuse for him barely showing up for the other 50 minutes of the game?
What do you mean excuse?  He stepped it up when he had to and did his part to win that game.  When you go up against the 2nd best defense in the league, you shouldn't expect to get a whole bunch of yards on every play and blow that team out of the water.  You can NEVER give him ANY credit for doing something right.  I demand you give him the praise he deserves for leading the winning drive in this game today, because it completely disproves you theory that he can't win games.  It's his fault when the Steelers lose according to you, but when he does something like this, which he also did in Jacksonville earlier this year, you never admit that BEN actually helped win the game, because that would require you to put your foot in your mouth.

 
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