What If Dahntay Jones Would Have Injured Lebron James Instead of Kobe?

3/14/13 in NBA   |   rick_ross95   |   8 respect

Whether it was a foul or not isn't even up for discussion, it is so painfully obvious that not only was it a violation it was intentional!
Anyone who has ever played, coached or has been an serious fan of basketball knows nothing about that close out  was natural.

You can watch one thousand fade aways from Kobe Bryant on youtube and not come across a close out more void of basic fundamental principles.

Before we get into the actual close out lets start with Jones's defensive argument that it should of been a offensive foul. For that shot to be a offensive foul the NBA will have to eradicate the fade away jump shot altogether.

To take a proper fade away it is natural for the dominant leg to swing as the shot goes up. It isn't maliceful, intentional, dirty its natural.

With that being said the close out on Bryant by Jones was anything but natural. First of all he didn't even attempt a play on the  ball!
Who closes out without making a attempt to make a block?

Secondly, when a player knows that blocking a shot is futile they normally aim to impair the players vision by putting a hand in his face.

Dahntay Jones did neither.

He doesn't come close to effecting the shot because he wasn't closing out properly. Why wouldn't a solid defensive player not close out properly during the most crucial possession of a game?

Simple, it was not his intentions to block the shot or disrupt the shot it was Jones's sole intent was to injure Kobe Bryant.

As Kobe is releasing the shot you do not see the customary hand in the face you normally see on contested jumpshots. What you see is Dahntay Jones oddly walking underneath Kobe Bryant. So far underneath him that he is standing in between Kobe's legs as he comes down from the shot.

Jones says tape don't lie, it sure doesn't anyone who watches that replay and doesn't see a foul is either biased against Kobe ala Charles Barkley or has no clue on how dangerous undercutting a player truly is.

What is more appalling than that sort of foul being committed, is that it wasn't even called by a ref two feet away!

So I pose these questions?

Would the refs have blown the whistle had it been Lebron James?

Would the league have stepped in had Dahntay Jones deliberately stepped under the NBA's chosen one?

Those people who are so naive to say why would a person intentionally hurt another player must not have caught the sound bite when Jalen Rose openly admitted to intentionally injuring Kobe Bryant by doing exactly what Dahntay Jones did step by step.

It was a despicable play, a play that has no place in the game. A play that would turn the NBA upside down if it happened to Lebron James. A play that was ignored totally by the league because it happened to Kobe.
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3/15/13   |   rick_ross95   |   8 respect

huskerdoug2009 wrote:
I will agree with the fact that a foul should have been called against Jones, but to say dirty play?  I would say both superstars get more than their share of calls.  Kobe may not be Reggie Miller in terms of kicking his leg out, however he's not dumb either.  He knows what he's doing especially in close games to draw fouls. 

we  are talking about his last play which wasnot anything out of a norm to draw a foul. The shot was already released before Jones could defend it. We are talking about Jones walking under Kobe not only altering the shot which is a foul but walking so far underneath him wear Kobe landed on him. It was a dirty play. No one in the leage closes out on a jumpshot like that instead of jumping to block the shot he slid under Bryant common sense will tell you there is a reason he elected to walk under Bryant and not contest the shot.

3/15/13   |   huskerdoug2009   |   2790 respect

I will agree with the fact that a foul should have been called against Jones, but to say dirty play?  I would say both superstars get more than their share of calls.  Kobe may not be Reggie Miller in terms of kicking his leg out, however he's not dumb either.  He knows what he's doing especially in close games to draw fouls. 

3/15/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

The only difference would be a foul called. But he Jones would have a hard time getting to a contender in his nba career. The under cutting has gone way down this year...Its bad for the sport..its like a cheap shot in the NFL. Not part of the play.

3/15/13   |   rick_ross95   |   8 respect

GeorgeMon wrote:
Hahahaha.. I love Kobe just as much as the next guy, but it's crazy if you are trying to make Kobe out to be a victim by saying that the refs and NBA don't look out for him. Kobe has gotten the superstar treatment for most of his career, and is probably a bigger star than LeBron is (Kobe is usually the highest all-star vote getter). I'm not really a fan of LeBron, but turning this into a 'the NBA hates Kobe and loves LeBron' argument is just absurd. You're acting like Kobe is some 10th man that nobody respects. I think this incident would have gotten significantly less attention had it been LeBron getting fouled. But with that being said, it was a horrible undercut that looked intentional.

Less attention if it were Lebron? Are you insane? If it were Lebron the obvious foul would of been called and Dahntay Jones would of been suspended for intentionally trying to injure a player. He made absolutely no attempt at the ball. He also has a history of foul play against Bryant that does not get called.

3/15/13   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

Dahntay (can't even type his name without laughing over the lame spelling of the real name)... anyway, I digress.  He is a thug and a brainless thug.  Had Ron-Meta-World-Artest-Peace done that he would be out 3-5 games!  One says... well RON RON has a history.  Well so does Dahntay!  2009 playoffs... deliberately tripping... who?  Kobe Bryant... it seems when someone is getting the best of DAHNTAY he resorts to cheating and doing dirty things.  It's his M.O. and the NBA knows it... but NO, they do nothing!  Then the jerk goes toward the Laker bench and yells "tell him to stop faking it!  I stopped him!" to which the reply from the bench was "he just lit you up for 30 points man!  Get real!"  And yes, Kobe lit him up for 30, torched him and what does he do... to avoid him winning the game???? He cheap shots him.  Plain and simple.  DAHNTAY... (get a real name jack-wagon!)  is a jerk and a punk!

3/14/13   |   GeorgeMon   |   159 respect

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Hahahaha.. I love Kobe just as much as the next guy, but it's crazy if you are trying to make Kobe out to be a victim by saying that the refs and NBA don't look out for him. Kobe has gotten the superstar treatment for most of his career, and is probably a bigger star than LeBron is (Kobe is usually the highest all-star vote getter). I'm not really a fan of LeBron, but turning this into a 'the NBA hates Kobe and loves LeBron' argument is just absurd. You're acting like Kobe is some 10th man that nobody respects. I think this incident would have gotten significantly less attention had it been LeBron getting fouled. But with that being said, it was a horrible undercut that looked intentional.