What is wrong with the Detroit Tigers?

10/26/12 in MLB   |   Jeverson_Cruz   |   4 respect

What is wrong with the Detroit Tigers? After sweeping the New York Yankees in the American League Championship Series, this team is now down 0-2 in the best of seven series versus the San Francisco Giants. Lack of getting runners on base along with Verlander's ineffectiveness in Game 1, is what has this team with its back against the wall. 

Oct 25, 2012; San Francisco, CA, USA; Detroit Tigers third baseman Miguel Cabrera (24) and San Francisco Giants third baseman Pablo Sandoval (48) react in the eighth inning of game two of the 2012 World Series at AT&T Park. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY SportsThe Giants look like the better team at the moment, playing station-to-station baseball and creating runs. With the exception of Game 1, when Pablo Sandoval looked like the second coming of Babe Ruth, Game 2 came down to manufacturing runs and San Francisco did that to perfection, to take a commanding 2-0 lead in the series Starting pitching is another aspect of the game that is very important because depending on how a starter performs, determines how relievers will be used and the Giants have done that effectively. Barry Zito has come up huge in this postseason, pitching San Francisco out of a potential Game 5 elimination in the National League Championship Series against St. Louis and then versus Detroit in Game 1 of the World Series. Zito features a fastball that tops 85 MPH but he has been able to give his team quality starts time after time. The farther starters go in games, the less taxed the bullpen will be, which gives managers more options if a starter goes down early in a game later in the series. Doug Fister for Detroit pitched very well in Game 2 but Madison Bumgarner pitched better and his team made crucial plays when it counted to get some runs on the board. 

During a playoff run, it's a toss up as to whether rest may help or hurt a team. In this situation, it seems like rest has hurt Detroit and no rest has helped the Giants. Detroit had five days of preparation after sweeping the Yankees, while San Francisco had one day after going seven games in the NLDS against St Louis. When a hitter of Miguel Cabrera's magnitude has only one hit through two games in this series, it shows that how rest may be throwing his timing off. Against Barry Zito and Madison Bumgarner, the Detroit line-up has looked lost and it goes to show that the art of pitching is not about how hard you throw but about location and hitting your spots. 

Detroit did not do its due diligence in stealing one in San Francisco, so it'll be interesting to see how they will perform going back home. One thing that works in Detroit's favor is the fact that going home eliminates the pitcher hitting and enhances the line up with the Designated Hitter.  It has only been done 11 times in the 108-year existence of the World Series, that a team comes back and wins a series after being down 0-2. Was Detroit a product of New York's lack of hitting in the American League Championship Series? Or is better pitching overmatching this line-up? These questions along with many others should be answered as the Tigers look to rebound and get back into the series.
 
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10/26/12   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Jeverson_Cruz wrote:
Yea they are very similar in certain aspects besides their line-ups. Once again, all this goes to show how influential the media is in how people think about teams and in many situations overrate them. Many thought Detroit would have a field day in this series and is now down 0-2, so we shall see how they respond to adversity.

I suspect this is merely another example of a Yankee bias.  Many eastern based media types saw the Tigers sweep the Yankees and immediately figured that team was just the greatest team in MLB. It's pretty lazy reporting in my humble opinion.

10/26/12   |   Jeverson_Cruz   |   4 respect

ML31 wrote:
I would say Detroit is more talented in some ways and not in others.  Of course their offense is better based on their 3 4 guys alone. But the starting pitching after the #1 starter is a wash with perhaps a slight edge to SF. The Giants pen is light years better and their D is better.  Given all that I'm just floored people thought the Tigers were going to walk all over the Giants. These are two very even teams.  

Yea they are very similar in certain aspects besides their line-ups. Once again, all this goes to show how influential the media is in how people think about teams and in many situations overrate them. Many thought Detroit would have a field day in this series and is now down 0-2, so we shall see how they respond to adversity.

10/26/12   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Jeverson_Cruz wrote:
ML 31

I agree with what you're saying but Detroit is much more talented than San Francisco is. The media does often overrate teams but you can't just not score when you have two of the best sluggers in the game batting 3rd and 4th in your lineup. San Francisco in my opinion, shows us spectators of the game that when you're hot there's always a way for you to win ball games. Game 2 was won on a sac fly and a RBI double play, so that goes to show how important manufacturing runs can be, specially in the playoffs. 

I would say Detroit is more talented in some ways and not in others.  Of course their offense is better based on their 3 4 guys alone. But the starting pitching after the #1 starter is a wash with perhaps a slight edge to SF. The Giants pen is light years better and their D is better.  Given all that I'm just floored people thought the Tigers were going to walk all over the Giants. These are two very even teams.  

10/26/12   |   Jeverson_Cruz   |   4 respect

ML 31

I agree with what you're saying but Detroit is much more talented than San Francisco is. The media does often overrate teams but you can't just not score when you have two of the best sluggers in the game batting 3rd and 4th in your lineup. San Francisco in my opinion, shows us spectators of the game that when you're hot there's always a way for you to win ball games. Game 2 was won on a sac fly and a RBI double play, so that goes to show how important manufacturing runs can be, specially in the playoffs. 

10/26/12   |   ML31   |   3615 respect

Nothing is wrong with the Tigers. The media severely overestimated how good they were.  I thought this was a pick 'em Series going into it and still think so.  

10/26/12   |   Jeverson_Cruz   |   4 respect

Their*

10/26/12   |   Jeverson_Cruz   |   4 respect

Dan_B

Apparently so because they're bats have been MIA

10/26/12   |   Dan_B   |   1066 respect

Apparently the Yankees inability to hit the ball in the ALCS rubbed off on Detroit.