Why The Bengals Will Make The Playoffs In 2009
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Why the Cincinnati Bengals - Yes, You Read It Right, the Bengals, Will Make the Playoffs in 2009

1/22/09 in NFL   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

A few weeks ago, Bill Cowher said on CBS that the Cincinnati Bengals would be a surprise team and make the playoffs in the 2009 season.  Everyone at home knew he was an idiot for thinking that.  I mean, come on, the Bengals?  Ranked last in offense in 2008?  How will they make the playoffs?  Well, here's some reasons that might just change your opinion to at least think they have a legitimate chance.

1) Carson Palmer
No matter what anyone tells you, Carson Palmer is the most important thing for the Bengals going into the 2009 season.  Props to Ryan Fitzpatrick, who finished the season strong and led the team to a 3 game winning streak, he's just not Carson Palmer.  In 12 starts, Fitzpatrick had a 59.4 completion percentage, 1,905 yards, 8 touchdowns, and 9 interceptions.  Now, let's look at Palmer in 2007.  64.9 completion percentage, 4,131 yards, 26 touchdowns, and 20 interceptions.  Led a team with a horrendous defense to a 7-9 record.  Fitzpatrick's record was 4-7-1, with a 12th ranked defense in the league.  12th ranked defense you ask...?

2) Defense
Yeah, 12th best, seriously!  Even without first round pick Keith Rivers for half the season.  Even our arguably best defensive player, Chinedum Ndukwe missed a few games.  But that ended up being a good thing with Ndukwe; it brought out a stud in Chris Crocker.  Next year, our secondary looks great.  Leon Hall, Crocker, Ndukwe, and Jonathan Joseph.  Linebackers will include Rivers, Dhani Jones, and quite possibly Ray Maualuga in the draft out of USC.  But if not, Brandon Johnson or  Rashad Jeanty.  Defensive line will be Robert Geathers, the almighty Domata Peko, Pat Sims, John Thornton, and Antwan Odom or Frostee Rucker.  And remember, Mike Zimmer was just in his first year of D-Coordinator this past year, and he will only make them better.

3) Cedric Benson
I believe he will be an extremely high priority in Cincinnati to re-sign him.  He ended the year fantastically including two 100 yard games against Kansas City and Cleveland.  Oh yeah, in Cleveland, 171 yards.  Yeah, it is the Browns.  But he also did well against Washington.  His track record is extremely inconsistent, but I believe he has found his home, and he does want to stay in Cincinnati, so as long as we're not stuck with fumble-prone Chris Perry at running back, we'll be solid in the backfield.

4) The Draft
We got the 6th pick, we're getting someone solid.  I'm hoping for Andre Smith, tackle from Alabama, or Maualuga at linebacker.  The Bengals do need an O-Lineman, but if we aren't left with Smith, I'm not sure if Oher, or any others are worth a 6th pick.  Maybe trade down?  I say wait til the second round and we can still be left with a solid tackle.  If the Bengals aren't sold on Benson, Beanie Wells isn't out of the question either.  The Bengals drafting hasn't been strong of recent years, but I believe this is our year.

5) Wide Receiver Situation
"TJ Houshmandzadeh is leaving Cincinnati; they'll be nothing."  Yeah, think that.  Housh may leave, no one knows yet.  The Bengals are pushing hard to keep him.  Housh does not want to be tagged, but it may end up that way.  Cinci wrongly used their tag last year on Stacy Andrews, and now look at him.  I believe we should tag Housh, work out a long-term deal over the season, then he's ours for life.  I believe he will stay.  About Chad Ocho Cinco; I love the guy, but I think it'd be best for Chad and the Bengals organization if he were traded.  Get some young talent somewhere else, maybe a few draft picks.  We've got Chris Henry, Andre Caldwell, and Jerome Simpson at receiver to replace Chad.

6) Momentum and Desire
3-0 to end the year after an 0-8 start.  We've got the momentum going into the season.  These guys want to win, more than anyone.  It shows it.  They could have lost those last few games to get a great draft spot, these guys wanna win.

And finally...

7) Schedule
Yeah, yeah, we've got 4 total games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh.  That's probably 1-3, or 0-4.  I'll say 1-3.  But remember, we've got two against Cleveland.  That makes 3-3.  Denver, tough game, I'll say a tough loss, 3-4.  Then Oakland.. they're getting better, but that's a victory for us.  4-4.  Chiefs, 5-4.  Chargers, tough one again, I'll say if not this one, we'll get Denver, so 6-4.  Bears and Packers, I say we win one of them, 7-5.  Detroit, 8-5, obviously.  Minnesota, loss, 8-6.  Then NY Jets, 9-6, I believe.  And then, Houston, very tough game, very tough victory, 10-6.  Wild Card.

 

Still doubt?  Probably.

Change your overall opinion on them?  Probably.

 

Just wait fellas.  We will see.  We will see.

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1/25/12   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

 Although I bet you wont be pissed if they got rid of Chris Crocker now... hes awful

1/23/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

WhoDey wrote:
 Going back and reading my old blogs for an assignment.  So a big, but late I WAS RIGHT YOU WERE WRONG to you ignorant folks up there.  Who won the division in 2009?!?

And who has more promise between the Bengals and Chiefs?

1/22/12   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

 Going back and reading my old blogs for an assignment.  So a big, but late I WAS RIGHT YOU WERE WRONG to you ignorant folks up there.  Who won the division in 2009?!?

2/15/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Aceraison wrote:
They are also in danger of losing Chris Croker.  He is a free agent and they haven't made him any offers either.

I love Chris Crocker!  If Ndukwe hadn't gotten hurt, he wouldn't have gotten much of a chance, and Ndukwe is great as well.  I'd be pissed if we got rid of Crocker.

2/15/09   |   Aceraison   |   183 respect

WhoDey wrote:
They do need to take resigning TJ more seriously.

They are also in danger of losing Chris Croker.  He is a free agent and they haven't made him any offers either.

2/15/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Aceraison wrote:
Number one priority is to fix the offensive line.  I really think a new offensive coordinator is in order too but Mike Brown doesn't have a clue.  The defense will improve as long as they don't spend  40 minutes on the field like they did last year.
I think Benson would be a good resign but there are plenty of good backs out there.  I do wish they would get a little more serious about resigning TJ.  And yes, the franchise tag is available.  Andrews contract was only for one year.

They do need to take resigning TJ more seriously.

2/15/09   |   Aceraison   |   183 respect

Number one priority is to fix the offensive line.  I really think a new offensive coordinator is in order too but Mike Brown doesn't have a clue.  The defense will improve as long as they don't spend  40 minutes on the field like they did last year.
I think Benson would be a good resign but there are plenty of good backs out there.  I do wish they would get a little more serious about resigning TJ.  And yes, the franchise tag is available.  Andrews contract was only for one year.

2/5/09   |   taylordanley   |   6 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
For anyone that did watch more Chiefs games, they know KC was better than their 2-14 record showed.

Thigpen is not a franchise QB, but the fact that Mel Kiper has Mark Sanchez going #3 to KC is laughable to me...like you said, the team has more needs than a quarterback right now, get better in the receiving core to help out Bowe and find a replacement for Gonzo till he does leave to another team or retires. Find more talent on the defensive side of the ball, I'm not giving up on Dorsey even though his numbers were not even close to what was expected, and with Hali on the line, they need someone on the edges to still replace Jared Allen.

Linebackers and secondary are something that I could always hope for improvement..I don't think I can ever be happy with either until they can make a stop consistently on 3rd down.

if i was the chiefs i'd keep thigpen around and just surround him with talent. he isn't like terrible by any means. get rid of tony g and gain some young vets in the linebacking core. use that 3rd pick to pick up the dynamic and unstoppable micheal crabtree.

and if anybody will take him, give larry johnson away. for anything i dont care.. money, clothing, shelter. the ego the guy brings to the team is straight annoying, like he's been carrying them on his back or something? he has a stint of good games, and that is all.. the cheifs could be contenders really soon, imo.

2/5/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

wrote:
Yep...one arrest versus how many for the Begals????  Just look at Chris Henry...he is an embarassment to your team.  Even Marvin Lewis did not want him back but Mike Brown forced him back onto Lewis.  Like I said, which you failed to recognize is that the moral of the team is sinking and it is because of poor ownership.  And last time I checked, Holmes paid his debt and won a Super Bowl.  "We've" had?  Do you work for the Begals?  My friend does, and even he admits this team needs help.

MarktheShark is right.

2/4/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

wrote:
Yep...one arrest versus how many for the Begals????  Just look at Chris Henry...he is an embarassment to your team.  Even Marvin Lewis did not want him back but Mike Brown forced him back onto Lewis.  Like I said, which you failed to recognize is that the moral of the team is sinking and it is because of poor ownership.  And last time I checked, Holmes paid his debt and won a Super Bowl.  "We've" had?  Do you work for the Begals?  My friend does, and even he admits this team needs help.

I'm sure you said the same thing about the Falcons this time last year.

2/4/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

wrote:
This is classic.  The only thing the Begals will be winning is worst team in the AFC North AGAIN.  With the WORST owner in sports and a team full of convicts and thugs they are going to stumble again.  A good friend of mine works for the Bengals and even he says the moral within the organization is at an all time low and he has worked with them for 9 years.

Well, actually, the Browns were the worst.  But actually,  find how many arrests we've had in the past year.  I don't remember any, although there may have been one.  But, talk about thugs, there's this guy, Santonio Holmes.  Yeah.  But we will see next year.

1/23/09   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect

Is this the hot chick thread? No? All right, I'll just leave.

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

WhoDey wrote:
Good points, you know your stuff.

Honestly, I don't think Thigpen is the right guy.  My opinion is that you all need a franchise QB, but there are many other needs more important that need to be addressed.  I didn't watch any of the Chiefs besides the game at Cinci which I went to, all I know is that game and the 2-14 record. 

For anyone that did watch more Chiefs games, they know KC was better than their 2-14 record showed.

Thigpen is not a franchise QB, but the fact that Mel Kiper has Mark Sanchez going #3 to KC is laughable to me...like you said, the team has more needs than a quarterback right now, get better in the receiving core to help out Bowe and find a replacement for Gonzo till he does leave to another team or retires. Find more talent on the defensive side of the ball, I'm not giving up on Dorsey even though his numbers were not even close to what was expected, and with Hali on the line, they need someone on the edges to still replace Jared Allen.

Linebackers and secondary are something that I could always hope for improvement..I don't think I can ever be happy with either until they can make a stop consistently on 3rd down.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Well, really...If we're going to discuss the potential between the Bengals and the Chiefs, let's get both sides.

While the defense could have easily been the biggest struggle, I do believe talent and personnel is there, but majority I think can be blamed on Gunther. Now that he's gone, we'll see what improves with a defensive coordinator that can still control a defense and create expectations.

Offensively, yes, Tony G and LJ want out, but with Jamaal Charles as a starting back can be just as impressive while a whole new and revamped o-line is adding experience. QB Tyler Thigpen is my starting quarterback. He has shown throughout the year that he can manage a game and avoid losing games early. WR Dwayne Bowe is a Top 10 Receiver in the league right now, and continuing to be Thigpen's #1 target, he will only grow.

The underlying factor that hurt the Chiefs the most this season was the Strength and Conditioning Coach: Cedric Smith. Under Smith, the Chiefs averaged somewhere around 6 minor injuries a week. Multiple times it had to do with their weekly workouts, cramps in games, and being physically unprepared every Sunday.

While the coaching staff in KC is being emptied, I am one of many that hope Smith is out of Arrowhead before Herm goes.

Good points, you know your stuff.

Honestly, I don't think Thigpen is the right guy.  My opinion is that you all need a franchise QB, but there are many other needs more important that need to be addressed.  I didn't watch any of the Chiefs besides the game at Cinci which I went to, all I know is that game and the 2-14 record. 

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

WhoDey wrote:
Haha, sorry bud.  There was nothing really for them to brag about.

Well, really...If we're going to discuss the potential between the Bengals and the Chiefs, let's get both sides.

While the defense could have easily been the biggest struggle, I do believe talent and personnel is there, but majority I think can be blamed on Gunther. Now that he's gone, we'll see what improves with a defensive coordinator that can still control a defense and create expectations.

Offensively, yes, Tony G and LJ want out, but with Jamaal Charles as a starting back can be just as impressive while a whole new and revamped o-line is adding experience. QB Tyler Thigpen is my starting quarterback. He has shown throughout the year that he can manage a game and avoid losing games early. WR Dwayne Bowe is a Top 10 Receiver in the league right now, and continuing to be Thigpen's #1 target, he will only grow.

The underlying factor that hurt the Chiefs the most this season was the Strength and Conditioning Coach: Cedric Smith. Under Smith, the Chiefs averaged somewhere around 6 minor injuries a week. Multiple times it had to do with their weekly workouts, cramps in games, and being physically unprepared every Sunday.

While the coaching staff in KC is being emptied, I am one of many that hope Smith is out of Arrowhead before Herm goes.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Them are fightin' words.

Haha, sorry bud.  There was nothing really for them to brag about.

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

WhoDey wrote:
Think what you want, but sorry, Chiefs have no potential, Bengals do.
I went to the Bengals/Chiefs game and KC is absolutely pathetic.

Them are fightin' words.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

taylordanley wrote:
great article!! the only thing i disagree on is Cedric Benson, guy is a bust. the argument that he ended the season strong is extremely WILD. he played against the #26 and #31 in Cleveland and Kansas City, respectively.

Yeah, I know he's not going to be great, but until we get our O-Line fixed, I don't think they need to worry about the backfield with Benson back there.  He won't be great, but he'll do better than people give him credit for.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Think what you want, but sorry, Chiefs have no potential, Bengals do.
I went to the Bengals/Chiefs game and KC is absolutely pathetic.

1/22/09   |   taylordanley   |   6 respect

great article!! the only thing i disagree on is Cedric Benson, guy is a bust. the argument that he ended the season strong is extremely WILD. he played against the #26 and #31 in Cleveland and Kansas City, respectively.

1/22/09   |   Damondogg31   |   4 respect

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

1/22/09   |   retirednuke

No way.  Betcha a dollar

1/22/09   |   LA_dodgers_fan

dumpsterdave6 wrote:
He was joking that it was so stupid that Jemele Hill must of wrote it. Its a "she", and she is pretty bad, not bad like the Bengals, but pretty close.

Thank you for clearing that up. Glad someone got it.

1/22/09   |   LA_dodgers_fan

WhoDey wrote:

Did he?
I strictly got this information as a die-hard fan.
If you can find it, I'd like to see it.

It was a joke......and it's a she.

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Michael_Luchies wrote:
I love Bengals fans....they remind me of myself (a diehard hopeless Lions fan)...no matter how bad it gets, we still think our team will go to the playoffs! Lions to the Super Bowl in 2009!!! lol

Delirium is not healthy.

1/22/09   |   Michael_Luchies   |   17 respect

I love Bengals fans....they remind me of myself (a diehard hopeless Lions fan)...no matter how bad it gets, we still think our team will go to the playoffs! Lions to the Super Bowl in 2009!!! lol

1/22/09   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

I think Jules put it best from Pulp Fiction, "that's a bold statement".

Can this happen, yes, but there is one this that will be a road block to all of this and his last name is Brown. As long as he runs the teams front office and football operations on a shoestring then things are not going to change. But hey who here thought the Falcons were going to win more than 5 games? So again anything is possible.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

MarkTheShark wrote:
Justin, fine work. You were on it to include the first thing I thought "um, no Housh, no playoffs." Are you sure the franchise tag has been freed up from Andrews? You might wanna check that. I am surprised that you didn't even mention a pass rusher as a possible 6th overall pick. I think, Hall, Joseph, Ndukwe and Co. did great considering there wasn't a whole lot of pressure. Can you imagine what Orakpo could do to help that secondary become even better? Oher would not be a bad choice either right there.////////////////////////It disturbs me that you are putting that much trust in Cedric Benson. I say if the Giants let either Ward or Jacobs get to the open market try and get them.

Did I say the tag was freed up?  I'm not sure about the whole franchise tag thing, I don't understand all the rules, but I do know they have the option to tag TJ.  Yes, Orkapo would help tremendously and I definetely wouldn't be upset to get him.  I like Benson, I think this is the team he was meant to be with, but if the organization doesn't think so, they could draft Beanie Wells.  About Ward and Jacobs, I would love it.  But the problems with the Bengals will be resigning Housh.  I don't know if they could afford either of them.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

frenchy62 wrote:
I will agree with you that a healthy Carson Palmer will make a HUGE difference, but I think you're giving the Bengals' D a bit more credit than it deserves.

They did have some bad games, but numbers don't lie, and they will only get better.  I did forget to mention that last year was Zimmer's first year as coordinator and he will only make them better.

1/22/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

Justin, fine work. You were on it to include the first thing I thought "um, no Housh, no playoffs." Are you sure the franchise tag has been freed up from Andrews? You might wanna check that. I am surprised that you didn't even mention a pass rusher as a possible 6th overall pick. I think, Hall, Joseph, Ndukwe and Co. did great considering there wasn't a whole lot of pressure. Can you imagine what Orakpo could do to help that secondary become even better? Oher would not be a bad choice either right there.////////////////////////It disturbs me that you are putting that much trust in Cedric Benson. I say if the Giants let either Ward or Jacobs get to the open market try and get them.

1/22/09   |   frenchy62   |   3 respect

I will agree with you that a healthy Carson Palmer will make a HUGE difference, but I think you're giving the Bengals' D a bit more credit than it deserves.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

dumpsterdave6 wrote:
He was joking that it was so stupid that Jemele Hill must of wrote it. Its a "she", and she is pretty bad, not bad like the Bengals, but pretty close.

Oh, haha, now I feel stupid.  Thanks.

1/22/09   |   dumpsterdave6   |   1 respect

WhoDey wrote:

Did he?
I strictly got this information as a die-hard fan.
If you can find it, I'd like to see it.

He was joking that it was so stupid that Jemele Hill must of wrote it. Its a "she", and she is pretty bad, not bad like the Bengals, but pretty close.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

People, people, people, once this happens, I will find this thread and shove it in your all's faces.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

derms33 wrote:
Carson Palmer CAN't stay healthy and the defense...come on...not to mention the arrests

Excuse me?
Are you that ignorant?
Palmer CAN'T stay healthy?  Pshht.
65 consecutive starts normally needs a little bit of being healthy.  Pardon me if I'm wrong??

I mean, Kimo von Olehoffen cheated him out in the 05 playoffs.  I mean, on the play he got hurt, 66 yard complete pass, good start.  And he got hurt this year.  Before that, I mean, he's a healthy guy.

Arrests?
Do some looking.
How many arrests this year?  There may be a couple, but I am not familiar with any.

Yes, a few years ago we were arrest city, but Marvin has done what needs to be done.

1/22/09   |   CalBoomer   |   43 respect

Great joke. Send it to Leno or Lederman.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

LA_dodgers_fan wrote:
I thought Jemele Hill wrote this also.

Did he?
I strictly got this information as a die-hard fan.
If you can find it, I'd like to see it.

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

dumpsterdave6 wrote:
Somebody should probably tell the Steelers and Ravens the news. I guess they must be taking next year off right?

It's possible for two teams to get a wild card from the division.. notice I put we would get lucky to go 1-3 in those 4 games.

1/22/09   |   LA_dodgers_fan

I thought Jemele Hill wrote this also.

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

WhoDey wrote:
We'll see.  Tough defense, offense is fantastic when they want to be.

Tough defense, offense is fantastic when they want to be are healthy enough and not jawing at each other.

/fixed

1/22/09   |   derms33   |   17653 respect

Carson Palmer CAN't stay healthy and the defense...come on...not to mention the arrests

1/22/09   |   dumpsterdave6   |   1 respect

Somebody should probably tell the Steelers and Ravens the news. I guess they must be taking next year off right?

1/22/09   |   WhoDey   |   6 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Oh to be so hopeful...I'll be honest and tell you I laughed at the title, and your #1 reason. Carson Palmer is a great quarterback, when he's healthy. Why was Fitzpatrick in for 12 starts? It wasn't because he was outplaying anybody. Everyone hopes their team is 100% healthy throughout the season, but that is what the Bengals need, along with a few "lucky" wins next year.

Defense is alright, and probably will improve in the draft, but still..10-6? I'm fine doubting it until next year.

We'll see.  Tough defense, offense is fantastic when they want to be.

1/22/09   |     |   1 respect

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WhoDey...... WeDey  I think its kinda early to be drinking and posting your dreams on line.... Please don't text any old girl friends tonight you will be sorry in the A.M

1/22/09   |   fred77008   |   17 respect

Please put the pipe down.

1/22/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Oh to be so hopeful...I'll be honest and tell you I laughed at the title, and your #1 reason. Carson Palmer is a great quarterback, when he's healthy. Why was Fitzpatrick in for 12 starts? It wasn't because he was outplaying anybody. Everyone hopes their team is 100% healthy throughout the season, but that is what the Bengals need, along with a few "lucky" wins next year.

Defense is alright, and probably will improve in the draft, but still..10-6? I'm fine doubting it until next year.