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6/27/09
Will Shaquille O'Neal Help or Hurt The Cavaliers?
Shaq to Cleveland: Subtraction by Addition?
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Somebody is going to have to explain to me just how the x's and o's are going to work on this one....I cannot see Shaq and Lebron's games meshing within an offensive system.

For those who maybe unfamiliar, the Cavs offense basically consists of Lebron starting with the ball on a wing...either having brought the ball up court himself or having come off a screen to get it...then he attacks the basket, either directly or with the help of another screen...with one of three results...he either scores, gets fouled or kicks the ball out to a teammate on the perimeter for a jump shot.

With that in mind, if Shaq is stationed in the low post it makes it almost impossible for LeBron to penetrate what with the amount of attention Shaq would draw down there....if you try and use Shaq as the primary screener...the defense would simply ignore him and sag back into the lane to deny Lebron's drives as Shaq is incapable of hitting a jump shot. At least when Big Z set the screens the D was obliged to put a body on him because he could stick the jumper. No such worries with O'Neal in there. Any plays that are run for Shaq mean Lebron becomes a spectator for that trip. If you try to dish to Shaq on the roll of the screen/roll or put him on the weak side post in order to catch a dish from LBJ, watching Shaq try to handle the ball on the move 10-15 ft from the bucket is not a site I care to see while I am eating popcorn or a hot dog thank-you very much..

The only area where Shaq is a definite upgrade is on the defensive end of the floor where he is clearly much more of a presence than any of the Cavs current bigs acting as major deterrent against slashers.

All in all though from this vantage point the negatives seem to outweigh the positives on this one. Yes Shaq will sell seats and create some buzz, but I cannot see it translating into on court success.

The best news out of this for the Cavs is that Shaq''s deal is up after this season.

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6/27/09
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TurkogluForMVP wrote:
And it still does not address the reason the cavs were knocked out of the playoffs... the magic..
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.

6/27/09
1
And it still does not address the reason the cavs were knocked out of the playoffs... the magic..

6/27/09
5
TurkogluForMVP wrote:
And it still does not address the reason the cavs were knocked out of the playoffs... the magic..
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.

6/27/09
2
You failed to mention that Shaq is a great passer from down low and can work the give-and-go with LeBron cutting to the basket by Shaq, or a Triangle offense.  Shaq is also still somewhat dangerous in the pick-and-roll as he cuts to the basket..... nobody will get in his way when he's barreling down the lane.

I actually like this move by the Cavs simply because it gives them another offensive option besides LeBron going 1-on-5 trying to get an open shot while the rest of his teammates stand around the perimeter.  But the real move I think that they needed to make was at Head Coach..... more than  anything Mike Brown was outcoached by SVG in the Conference Finals.

6/27/09
0
100%InjuryRate wrote:
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.
thats really true if they had a real big man then they would have been able to guard the three better too

6/27/09
0
I think LeBron and Shaq will do fine together

6/27/09
0
What people seem to forget is the exact reason orlando beat cleveland in the first place, the transition 3.  That's what caused every run, what stopped every cavs run, what killed the cavs in the series.  They ran when they got the ball and all 4 of the magic's 3 point shooters beat the cavs down the floor and they would be wide open for a 3. Shaq cannot run.

 Atlanta is going to be better and going to run up and down the court. Boston will have Garnett back and prolly force Shaq to guard him 10-15 ft away from the basket.  Chicago will be alot better and will also run the floor.  Shaq addresses none of these problems. They still need a big man who can run the floor. And 37 yr old 15 minutes a game Shaq can't do that.

6/27/09
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100%InjuryRate wrote:
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.
Yeah, and Shaq is gonna help with that how exactly? Especially when he's on the bench with 3 fouls in the first half, and fouls out in every game?

6/27/09
0
the problems wasn't inside perimerter defense that they  lost.  they can't handle speed shaq does not do much.

6/27/09
1
By the time Shaq starts in his first pre-season game for the Cavs, he will be exactly 37yrs, 7 months and 3 days old. Go figure!!

6/27/09
1
Shaq did relieve the Cavs of some extra cash,that oughta lighten the load for the owners

6/27/09
3
Sure he's going to help  about as much as varejo,wallace, and big z did last season, shaq is a fossil that doesn't think it's time to hang 'em up! no defense and he only looked good last season because the offense had to run through him! you can't run transition offense with him and you can't play him at the end of games(free throws) LEBRON will be crying and walking off the court by christmas another wreck waiting to happen!!

6/27/09
0
yes

6/27/09
3
100%InjuryRate wrote:
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.
Yet it completely misses out on the Rashard Lewis issue.  Lewis was the reason why the Magic beat both the Celtics and Cavs, not Dwight Howard.  The Cavs are apparently the only people who don't realize this.

6/27/09
0
Shaq is getting a little old so im saying he will help some but not a ton But they lost two very great big men Ben Wallace and Zyandrus Ilgauskus

6/28/09
1

shaq will be a great help for the cavs .... before counting out shaq just remember that if shaq is teamed up with a young unstoppable guard he always delivers... shaq and penny in orlando resulted in a finals appearance... shaq and kobe produced 3 rings for the lakers... shaq and wade delivered a championship for the heat.. and maybe...  just maybe... lebron and shaq will live up to the expectations...


6/28/09
2
LeBron still needs a "slasher," who can get his own shot.  I hope Cleveland isn't expecting a young Shaq to magically appear. 

6/28/09
1
Why don't the Cavaliers just put Lebron on one side of the court, Shaq on the other side down low in the paint. This way when Lebron is driving, he could just dish it to Shaq for the slam. Or LeBron could kick it out to someone from the outside like Mo Williams or Delonte West. Shaq will also probably help the Cavs on defense, He's a big guy that will help get attention away from Lebron. If Shaq gets double-teamed down low, Shaq could just pass it to Lebron for the 3 outside or anybody else. If Lebron gets double-teamed, he could just throw it down to Shaq in the paint.

6/28/09
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(Edited by TurkogluForMVP)
100%InjuryRate wrote:
Well, it does on some level. Howard killed Big Z down low and when he was double teamed, he tossed the ball out for open 3s from the perimeter. Shaq isn't a great defender, but he can guard Howard one-on-one down low. That's a big upgrade over what the Cavs had this last season.
Your statements been had already by several people so I'm just going to reiterate. Cavs lost their last game because of dwight. Not the series. The series was Shards plain and simple. Shard and Hedo gave them match up problems and it was the main story line in that series. The Cavs have yet to address that and it will still give them problems. Cavs have to beat the magic to get to the finals and that wont happen without an answer for Shard. Dwight is getting better and better while Shaq is declining dont count too much on Shaq old body, who has been physical his entire life, to last long enough to make a huge difference.

6/28/09
1

Shaq and Lebron oh my GOD give them the trophy and the rings right now. WHO IS GOING TO STOP THEM NEXT SEASON????? I NEED TICKETS RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!


6/28/09
0
lilcreme125 wrote:

Shaq and Lebron oh my GOD give them the trophy and the rings right now. WHO IS GOING TO STOP THEM NEXT SEASON????? I NEED TICKETS RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!

Who's going to stop them? Well, Boston and Orlando will with ease.  After that the East sucks, so Cleveland will be a nice solid #3 seed for LeBron's last year in Cleveland.  This was a huge mistake.

6/28/09
1
kantwistaye wrote:
Who's going to stop them? Well, Boston and Orlando will with ease.  After that the East sucks, so Cleveland will be a nice solid #3 seed for LeBron's last year in Cleveland.  This was a huge mistake.
what do you mean Boston, Orlan-who. they need a new coach did you see them in the finals they aren't even clutch playas. I hated the fact that the lakers won but it should have been the cavs but this season comin watch out and paul pierce might be the next to be on the team

6/28/09
2
lilcreme125 wrote:
what do you mean Boston, Orlan-who. they need a new coach did you see them in the finals they aren't even clutch playas. I hated the fact that the lakers won but it should have been the cavs but this season comin watch out and paul pierce might be the next to be on the team
Orlando needs a new coach? Try CLE needs a coach period. Mike Brown got out coached terribly... kobe even thought it was rape. Wake up kid you still gotta beat ORL IN ORLANDO.

7/14/09
1
Shaq is a definite upgrade from Big Z.  He will be able to handle Dwight Howard one on one.  Which frees up defenders for Orlando's perimeter game which has also taken a step back by losing Turk.

7/14/09
0
shaq- big z,no difference both slow and not very mobile,the only difference i see is shaq takes up more space under the net,and z can shoot the ball from 15 feet away

7/19/09
1
 LEBRON + SHAQ = DYNASTY

 
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