Yankees trade Jesus Montero for Michael Pineda

Yankees and Mariners swap Jesus Montero and Michael Pineda; Yanks sign Hiroki Kuroda

1/13/12 in MLB   |   Dan_B   |   1067 respect

The New York Yankees and the Seattle Mariners have pulled off a blockbuster trade involving two of the league's budding superstars.

The Yankees will ship catcher/designated hitter, Jesus Montero to Seattle along with starting pitcher Hector
Noesi in exchange for pitcher Michael Pineda and pitching prospect Jose Campos. 

The Yankees will also reportedly sign starting pitcher Huroki Kuroda to a one-year deal worth about $10 million.

Montero is arguably the top hitting prospect in baseball but doesn't really have a position to play in the field, as he is seen as subpar defensively. He has often been compared to a past Mariners' great--designated hitter Edgar Martinez, thanks to his ability to hit for power to all fields. The Mariners are desperate for offense after finishing dead last in the league in runs scored last season.

Pineda went 9-10 with a 3.74 ERA and made the AL All-Star team last year, his rookie season. He and Kuroda fill voids in the Yankees' rotation that relied heavily on C.C. Sabathia last season.

With the additions of Pineda and Kuroda to go along with Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Phil Hughes, Ivan Nova and Freddy Garcia, the Yankees now have seven pitchers. It's unclear now who the odd men out will be, but it will be interesting to see whether Burnett, despite his massive salary, keeps a spot in the rotation.

The Yankees had been uncharacteristically quiet all offseason, so this one big move shouldn't be surprising. The team clearly wanted to find a way to upgrade its starting rotation without expanding its payroll too far. In the 22-year-old Pineda they did just that. 

The 36-year-old Kuroda went 13-16 with a 3.07 ERA for the Los Angeles Dodgers last season.

Montero has been brought up in trade rumors multiple times in the past, often centered around another Seattle starter, Felix Hernandez. 

Campos went 5-5 with a 2.32 ERA as an 18 year old in Low-A last season. He has upside, but is years away from the big leagues. 

Gut reaction: the Yankees got fleeced. A 3.74 ERA at Safeco Field is a 4.50 at Yankee Stadium. Montero has once-in-a-generation hitting potential (and hitters pan out far more often than pitchers). The kicker is throwing in Noesi, who actually pitched very well as a rookie for the Yankees last year, going 2-2 with a 4.47 ERA.

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5/1/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

Dream_Machine wrote:
Where's Your "Untouchable" Now?

Injuries suck. Wasn't aware the Yankees were only getting Pineda for one year, though.

5/1/12   |   Dream_Machine   |   13128 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
The need for bats in Seattle is obvious, but Pineda should've been an "untouchable", that's all I meant by it.

As for "The AL West Is The New 'AL East'" -

Where's Your "Untouchable" Now?

1/17/12   |   Dream_Machine   |   13128 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Very interesting trade, given that the Yankees needed starting pitching and the M's need bats, and thus both they traded each others' most valuable young asset. Pineda cooled off in the second half, and the homer rate was a big part of that, which is a concern. However, 22 year olds that can strike out a guy an inning in the majors don't grow on trees. Montero has a great bat, but appears will be a DH, as the catching ship has sailed. I'm giving this one to the Yankees because in the end, a reasonably productive DH can be found fairly easily. A pitcher of Pineda's talent can not.

Also, the M's could've gotten Montero for Cliff Lee a few years ago. Why didn't they get him then?

You Have A Great Point. But Ask Yourself This? Who Do Give Up Between Pineda And Felix? I Know that It May Not Be Relevant, but I Know that Was The Asking Price. I Understand We Could Have Gotten Montero For Lee Last Time, But In a Package Trade, that wasn't All That We Were Getting and For Lee, The Questionable Along With Montero just Didn't cut It For JackZ & Co. The Only Thing I Don't  Get About this Trade Is Why The M's Would Trade a Prospect During Rebuilding For A Prospect. Other Than That, The Farm Hand We have Will Offset The Loss Of Pineda, I Know It Will, If Not, the Ship Will Sink Faster Than It Sails.

1/17/12   |   Dream_Machine   |   13128 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
The need for bats in Seattle is obvious, but Pineda should've been an "untouchable", that's all I meant by it.

As for "The AL West Is The New 'AL East'" -
(Edited by Dream_Machine)

IDK About untouchable. But When You Add Noesi To The Deal, It's Like A Why Not? I Liked Pineda When He Made the team His Rookie Year Out In Camp, But When He Was Shut Down At the end Of The Year, Something Must Have Been Seen By Team Doctors That sure Made Lose The "Untouchable Tag". I Was Dreaming About the Future of A 1-2 Punch Of The Felix And Pineda, Well Sometimes, Your Dreams Alter and You Just Have To Adapt.

And About The AL WEST > AL EAST Thing, Think about It, The AL West Is One Team Away From Becoming Exactly The AL East, So That's Not Really Saying Much. I Guess

1/17/12   |   Dream_Machine   |   13128 respect

Burrellfan1 wrote:
First of all, Bryce Harper is the best hitting prospect in baseball right now.  Secondly, the way catchers wear down during the season and as their career progresses, it seems dumb for the Mariners to trade a starting pitcher for a catcher that doesn't catch very well.  The Mariners may have needed some more hitting, but how they seem weak in the starting pitching department behind Felix Hernandez now that Doug Fister and Pineda are gone.  

All Makes Sense, but With Half of their Games Played @ Safeco, "Good" Pitching Can Be Enough To Fill Out a Starting Rotation.

1/14/12   |   elevenbravo138again   |   1163 respect

I like the deal for both teams and at 1st blush this seems to be a win/win, but only time well tell.

1/14/12   |   icfeet   |   21808 respect

Montero, while a good hitting prospect, is just so-so defensively.  Can't put him at first...can't put him at 3rd...not in the outfield....DH...it will be interesting to see what happens this year, the year of the Yankees 28th World Championship....

1/14/12   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

Pat wrote:
The Yankees are the new Yankees.

I am not sure about this trade I hate to lose Noesi he looked very good this year. But Montero did not have a postion and the DH spot will need to be reserved for Aroid. Also Pineda had a very sub par 2nd half and now he will be pitching at the homer dome I mean the new Yankee stadium. 

1/14/12   |   Pat   |   5225 respect

The Yankees are the new Yankees.

1/13/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
AJ will be in at 4 or 5 for some/most of the season.

Scratch that stabilized comment then.

1/13/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Forgot to mention the Yankees also signed Hiroki Kuroda to a 1 year, $10 million deal. That makes their rotation Sabathia-Pineda-Kuroda-Nova in some order, followed by Colon or Garcia. That seems a lot more stabilized that before. Sigh.

AJ will be in at 4 or 5 for some/most of the season.

1/13/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Forgot to mention the Yankees also signed Hiroki Kuroda to a 1 year, $10 million deal. That makes their rotation Sabathia-Pineda-Kuroda-Nova in some order, followed by Colon or Garcia. That seems a lot more stabilized that before. Sigh.

1/13/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

Very interesting trade, given that the Yankees needed starting pitching and the M's need bats, and thus both they traded each others' most valuable young asset. Pineda cooled off in the second half, and the homer rate was a big part of that, which is a concern. However, 22 year olds that can strike out a guy an inning in the majors don't grow on trees. Montero has a great bat, but appears will be a DH, as the catching ship has sailed. I'm giving this one to the Yankees because in the end, a reasonably productive DH can be found fairly easily. A pitcher of Pineda's talent can not.

Also, the M's could've gotten Montero for Cliff Lee a few years ago. Why didn't they get him then?

1/13/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

Dream_Machine wrote:
How? The M's Pitching Arms On The Farm Are Close To Ready (Ramirez, Paxton, Hultzen, etc). Mariners Needs Bats! Simple As That. Their Offense Has Been anemic throughout the Last 10 Years, The AL West Is The New "AL East". We Need To Compete In Addition To Trying to Excite a Fan base That has been Stagnant Throughout The Years. If I Was A The M's GM, I Would Have Taken Anyone Available During Free Agency No Matter what the Price, Seattle Needs It. Even If We bring In the Prince, It Still Doesn't Seem enough To Me, We Need as Much As Much Bats As We Can. L-Rod and a Backup SS From Japan ain't Gonna Cut it For Me. Honestly, Pineda Was/Is Expendable. And So Is Beavan And Vargas, as Much As I Love Vargas and Beavan's Potential.James, In SEA, Montero Could Be the Opening day Catcher And Possible Starting DH. Pineda's Numbers Were Good, But He Looks Like He Will Be a Tommy John Victim In Years To Come.

The need for bats in Seattle is obvious, but Pineda should've been an "untouchable", that's all I meant by it.

As for "The AL West Is The New 'AL East'" -

1/13/12   |   Burrellfan1   |   24163 respect

First of all, Bryce Harper is the best hitting prospect in baseball right now.  Secondly, the way catchers wear down during the season and as their career progresses, it seems dumb for the Mariners to trade a starting pitcher for a catcher that doesn't catch very well.  The Mariners may have needed some more hitting, but how they seem weak in the starting pitching department behind Felix Hernandez now that Doug Fister and Pineda are gone.  

1/13/12   |   Dream_Machine   |   13128 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
They got rid of a hitter with no position for a guy who was 2nd in the AL in K/9. Pineda will regress some next year (AL East isn't going to help any), but they have him on the cheap for a few years and could easily be the #2 behind C.C..

If anyone here made the 'dumb move' here, it was Seattle.

How? The M's Pitching Arms On The Farm Are Close To Ready (Ramirez, Paxton, Hultzen, etc). Mariners Needs Bats! Simple As That. Their Offense Has Been anemic throughout the Last 10 Years, The AL West Is The New "AL East". We Need To Compete In Addition To Trying to Excite a Fan base That has been Stagnant Throughout The Years. If I Was A The M's GM, I Would Have Taken Anyone Available During Free Agency No Matter what the Price, Seattle Needs It. Even If We bring In the Prince, It Still Doesn't Seem enough To Me, We Need as Much As Much Bats As We Can. L-Rod and a Backup SS From Japan ain't Gonna Cut it For Me. Honestly, Pineda Was/Is Expendable. And So Is Beavan And Vargas, as Much As I Love Vargas and Beavan's Potential.James, In SEA, Montero Could Be the Opening day Catcher And Possible Starting DH. Pineda's Numbers Were Good, But He Looks Like He Will Be a Tommy John Victim In Years To Come.

1/13/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

kramer wrote:
Umm, dumb move Yankees?

They got rid of a hitter with no position for a guy who was 2nd in the AL in K/9. Pineda will regress some next year (AL East isn't going to help any), but they have him on the cheap for a few years and could easily be the #2 behind C.C..

If anyone here made the 'dumb move' here, it was Seattle.

1/13/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

I'm going to have to come back and think about this more after I'm done studying tonight, but what's funny is so far on Twitter everyone seems to hate this trade for both teams.

1/13/12   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Umm, dumb move Yankees?

1/13/12   |   kantwistaye   |   4210 respect

Got to wonder if this is related at all to reports earlier today that Prince is meeting with the Rangers.  Many thought he was heading towards Seattle.

1/13/12   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Uh, wow.