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I am by no means a racist person and this letter does not show racism it just shows how people profile, and sometimes the history books can prove it.
I recieved this in an e-mail, and i did go back and look some of it up until i got tired, and it is fairly creepy.
Just to clarify something here, i will not vote for Obama, or Mccain, i liked Hillary but i wasn't going to vote for her either, and i like Palin as Mccain's VP pic. She is a woman like me she hunts, she goes fishing, she is pro-life and if she did get her former brother in law fired, that just shows me that her bond with her sister is great and that says alot to me, but i am not voting so let me stop there.

this was just an interesting e-mail and i figured i would share it.


A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality
that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.

Pause a moment, reflect back.

These events are actual events from history.

They really happened!!!

Do you remember?

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by

Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40.

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by

Muslim male extremists between the of 17 and 40.

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it--

Muslim male extremists between the ages of 17 and 40.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us,
airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people...
Absolutely No Profiling!

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and
Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,
but leave

Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40

alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

According to The Book of Revelation:

The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power,

he will destroy everything.


And Now:
For the award winning
Act of Stupidity
Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet --
The Presidency of the United states of America

A Muslim
Male
Extremist
Between
the ages
of 17 and 40.


Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???

I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the

'unknown' candidate.

As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,


'Stupid
Is
As
Stupid Does.'
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9/5/08
11
This passage in the bible is totally made up.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/415/


"According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ ... will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent ... is it OBAMA??"
Chain e-mail on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008 in a chain e-mail

Complete distortion of the Bible

The chain e-mail attacks on Sen. Barack Obama during this presidential race have been rampant and ruthless. He refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance ( False.) He was sworn into the Senate on a Koran, not the Bible ( Pants on Fire wrong.) His middle name is Mohammed and he’s a “covert” Muslim ( Pants on Fire wrong.)

But those allegations are dwarfed by a new chain e-mail that distorts the words of the Bible to suggest Obama is the Antichrist.

The e-mail reads: “According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything is it OBAMA??”

Like many other e-mails spreading falsehoods about the presidential candidates to thousands or even millions of people, this e-mail encourages its readers to pass it on: “I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy..Im sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the “unknown” candidate.”

We feel silly even writing about this because many people consider it ridiculous on its face. But the e-mail was sent to us by many PolitiFact readers who wanted us to sort it out. And judging by 635,000 hits on a Google search for “Obama + Antichrist,” the suggestion certainly has spread. Among the thousands of postings is one blog — “Barack Obama the Antichrist?” — devoted to exploring signs that Obama may be the Antichrist.

And it's because of chain e-mails like this one that misunderstandings begin.

To be clear: Nothing about this detailed allegation is true.

Let’s begin with the Book of Revelation (note the singular, which is accurate), the final book in the Bible’s New Testament, which is 22 chapters long. Its sweeping apocalyptic language is laced with metaphors and symbols that challenge modern readers, but nowhere does it offer the kind of cookbook definition of the Antichrist proposed in this e-mail.

To reach our findings, we read the Book of Revelation and interviewed two religious scholars. Here's what we found:

• The word “anti-christ” does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

“The word Antichrist is not used in the Book of Revelation so this is important to point out,” said Dr. James D. Tabor, professor and chair of the religious studies department at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “Everybody thinks the word is used.”

That’s a pretty big hole in this e-mail from the get-go. We didn’t find the word in reading the text and our second scholar confirms this critical point.

“First and foremost, the word Antichrist and a figure called the Antichrist never occurs in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament,” said Dr. L. Michael White, professor of classics and religious studies at the University of Texas and director of the Institute for the Study of Antiquity and Christian Origins.

Now, some people interpret characters in the Book of Revelation to be the Antichrist even though the text doesn’t use this word. Specifically, in Chapter 13 there is a beast “having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy” that some consider to be an allusion to the Antichrist.

“It’s only in Chapter 13 and you could almost miss it,” Tabor said.

But among biblical scholars and historians, there is strong consensus that none of the strange, evil-sounding characters in the Book of Revelation actually represents the Antichrist.

“It wasn’t there in the Bible,” White said. “It emerges in the Middle Ages. It’s something historians deal with.”

Now the word Antichrist does appear a few times in other books of the Bible, specifically in First John and Second John. The description in First John, Chapter 4, verse 3 says: “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

• There’s no mention of a man of a certain age.

The Book of Revelation talks of God, Jesus Christ, John, spirits, Jezebel, a beast like a calf, a beast like a flying eagle, elders, a great red dragon and many more animals and people. But nowhere does it describe “a man, in his 40s,” as the e-mail alleges.

“As you notice, there’s nothing about being age 40,” Tabor said. “This is completely wrong. The Book of Revelation doesn’t say that. It says it’s a male, so I guess they got that right. It says ‘he,’ ‘he,’ ‘he.’ ”

• There’s no mention of the word “Muslim.”

Considering the Bible was completed by the early second century, and the Islam religion wasn’t founded until the early 600s, it’s not surprising that the world Muslim (the name for Islam followers) does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

So it’s this part of the e-mail, where it says the Antichrist will be a man “of Muslim descent,” that our religious scholars find particularly ridiculous.

By definition, the Antichrist is “the polar opposite and ultimate enemy of Christ,” according to the Encyclopedia Britannica. And because Muslims believe “there is no god but God,” they would have great difficulty with the idea of elevating a person to a divine status, White said.

“A Muslim would be a monotheist and the last thing a Muslim would do is have anyone worship anyone other than God,” Tabor said.

Not to mention the fact that Obama is not a Muslim.

White points to the specific descriptions of the Antichrist as evidence that the e-mail is drawing from a number of sources to create the image it wants to portray.

“There is no part of that anywhere in the Bible, not in those forms,” said White, who was a co-writer and historical consultant for the 1999 PBS documentary, Apocalypse! Time, History, and Revolution. “That’s all a jigsaw puzzle of bits and pieces all filtered through the kind of end-of-world scenarios we get in the theology that is the underpinning of the Left Behind novels.”

White says this patchwork interpretation of the Bible is common in some groups trying to justify certain beliefs.

“Of course, they never bothered to read the Scriptures carefully ... so it’s kind of a system of interpretation. That if you start with that presupposition. ... it’s all there you can just find it,” White said.

“That description (in the chain e-mail) never occurs anywhere in one place nor are the component parts really about the same situation. It’s a cherry-picking through Scripture to get it all to fit together.”

But fit together it doesn’t. The claim in this e-mail is egregiously inaccurate, so we rule it Pants on Fire wrong.

8/31/08
8
Ridiculous and totally offensive!

9/1/08
1
kteacher wrote:
Ridiculous and totally offensive!
did you look any of it up???? it is not so ridiculous and offensive when it can be proven. i cant help the fact that people profile others and i can not help the fact that this letter can be proven. it is not why i am not voting for obama, he is not the only one i wouldn't vote for. obama lost me at the typical white person speech.

9/1/08
6
rrl100807 wrote:
did you look any of it up???? it is not so ridiculous and offensive when it can be proven. i cant help the fact that people profile others and i can not help the fact that this letter can be proven. it is not why i am not voting for obama, he is not the only one i wouldn't vote for. obama lost me at the typical white person speech.
I have already seen this email---so no I didn't look anything up. I don't need to. When you say it can be proven, what exactly are you talking about being proved? The time line? book of revelation? Obama being Muslim----let me clear that one up, not that it should matter, but he is a Christian. You know what ---don't bother answering any of my questions. I am trying to stay away any political debates.

But first let me say-----I support Obama for president and he will get my vote in November. If that makes me stupid, so be it! I will gladly hold the title of stupid along with millions of others!

9/1/08
0
(Edited by rrl100807)
kteacher wrote:
I have already seen this email---so no I didn't look anything up. I don't need to. When you say it can be proven, what exactly are you talking about being proved? The time line? book of revelation? Obama being Muslim----let me clear that one up, not that it should matter, but he is a Christian. You know what ---don't bother answering any of my questions. I am trying to stay away any political debates.

But first let me say-----I support Obama for president and he will get my vote in November. If that makes me stupid, so be it! I will gladly hold the title of stupid along with millions of others!
more power to you, i am not voting for anyone because in my opinion, this batch of candidates are no better than Bush.


According to The Book of Revelation:

The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, OF MUSLIM DESCENT, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power,
he will destroy everything.

He might be a Christian, but a name like Barack  Hussein Obama shows muslim heritage

9/1/08
6
(Edited by Shrugging Atlas)
Rachel, I'm with you about not supporting Obama, but I think there are so many more valid reasons to be afraid of Obama.  These false and misleading "religious" and "Muslim" attacks actually just take people's eye of the ball.

Barack Obama is dangerous when it comes to the economy.  He wants to raise taxes and supports "big government" solutions to every problem (including socialized medicine).  Also, I read his first book and his strange fascination with Communism (and his Communist friends) is quite disturbing.  Also, I think he's dangerously inept to handle the dangerous world we live in.  We literally have extremists who want to see America and Western Civilization wiped off the map.

So I would ask you to not marginalize the argument by throwing out statements that can clearly be refuted.  Also, if you are that worried about him becoming President, wouldn't it behoove you to vote for McCain/Palin?

9/1/08
6
WOW! Not to vote? That's like giving others that do cast a ballot power! I can't and won't get into any type of debate regarding this. However, if you truly are serious about researching these rumors, go to the candidates official websites. You think they haven't seen the emails or read the Bible? Do you watch documentaries on the Presidential candidates? Have you REALLY researched his life? Do you know why he was named the way he was named? Are you researching any other possible alternatives to match the criteria you stated?
I understand you are entitled to your thoughts and opinions. I just wonder why stir this pot again? What is the motive behind spreading this news that we all have been aware of for many months now. And again, NOT to vote is effectively erasing whatever stance you have on the issues. If the only "issue" is his name and mistaken religion I hope you are never shown that type of bias.
One last thing...Hussein is my grandson's middle name. His name is Emanuel Hussein Kemp. He is not of Muslim descent. However, my daughter researched a name and decided it would be unifying. See, if you really STUDY the history of the Bible you would see what is up. I will leave you to do that.
www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/28/hussein/
www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718255,00.html

9/1/08
0
Shrugging Atlas wrote:
Rachel, I'm with you about not supporting Obama, but I think there are so many more valid reasons to be afraid of Obama.  These false and misleading "religious" and "Muslim" attacks actually just take people's eye of the ball.

Barack Obama is dangerous when it comes to the economy.  He wants to raise taxes and supports "big government" solutions to every problem (including socialized medicine).  Also, I read his first book and his strange fascination with Communism (and his Communist friends) is quite disturbing.  Also, I think he's dangerously inept to handle the dangerous world we live in.  We literally have extremists who want to see America and Western Civilization wiped off the map.

So I would ask you to not marginalize the argument by throwing out statements that can clearly be refuted.  Also, if you are that worried about him becoming President, wouldn't it behoove you to vote for McCain/Palin?
what scares me about this man has nothing to do with the kind of person he is but what he plans on doing it is not just what people say about his religion his heritage or his name, it was just creepy to go back and look at the events referenced and see that they can be proven, i know what will happen as soon as he gets in office, i know what class of people are going to be affected, and i am in that class, i know the oilfield is going to go to crap and that affects my family, i know that he is going to raise taxes and the cost of living will go up, but not peoples wages, i know i am struggling now to get my son and i on medicade when people that are more fortunate than me are having no problems at all and when he gets in office it will just be worse. but it doesn't seem to have a much better out look if Mccain gets in office. i had hope for hillary because i swear when bill was in office she had to run the U.S. he was too "busy" with other women. but when they were in office the U.S. was in order, and i would like to see that again, but i imagine i won't with any of the candidates  of this years election.

9/2/08
8
Well, all I can say is thank God there is no stereotyping or profiling down here in South Carolina.

9/3/08
1
(Edited by Shrugging Atlas)

***Post deleted***

Carry on :-)


9/5/08
11
This passage in the bible is totally made up.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/415/


"According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ ... will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent ... is it OBAMA??"
Chain e-mail on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008 in a chain e-mail

Complete distortion of the Bible

The chain e-mail attacks on Sen. Barack Obama during this presidential race have been rampant and ruthless. He refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance ( False.) He was sworn into the Senate on a Koran, not the Bible ( Pants on Fire wrong.) His middle name is Mohammed and he’s a “covert” Muslim ( Pants on Fire wrong.)

But those allegations are dwarfed by a new chain e-mail that distorts the words of the Bible to suggest Obama is the Antichrist.

The e-mail reads: “According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything is it OBAMA??”

Like many other e-mails spreading falsehoods about the presidential candidates to thousands or even millions of people, this e-mail encourages its readers to pass it on: “I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy..Im sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the “unknown” candidate.”

We feel silly even writing about this because many people consider it ridiculous on its face. But the e-mail was sent to us by many PolitiFact readers who wanted us to sort it out. And judging by 635,000 hits on a Google search for “Obama + Antichrist,” the suggestion certainly has spread. Among the thousands of postings is one blog — “Barack Obama the Antichrist?” — devoted to exploring signs that Obama may be the Antichrist.

And it's because of chain e-mails like this one that misunderstandings begin.

To be clear: Nothing about this detailed allegation is true.

Let’s begin with the Book of Revelation (note the singular, which is accurate), the final book in the Bible’s New Testament, which is 22 chapters long. Its sweeping apocalyptic language is laced with metaphors and symbols that challenge modern readers, but nowhere does it offer the kind of cookbook definition of the Antichrist proposed in this e-mail.

To reach our findings, we read the Book of Revelation and interviewed two religious scholars. Here's what we found:

• The word “anti-christ” does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

“The word Antichrist is not used in the Book of Revelation so this is important to point out,” said Dr. James D. Tabor, professor and chair of the religious studies department at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “Everybody thinks the word is used.”

That’s a pretty big hole in this e-mail from the get-go. We didn’t find the word in reading the text and our second scholar confirms this critical point.

“First and foremost, the word Antichrist and a figure called the Antichrist never occurs in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament,” said Dr. L. Michael White, professor of classics and religious studies at the University of Texas and director of the Institute for the Study of Antiquity and Christian Origins.

Now, some people interpret characters in the Book of Revelation to be the Antichrist even though the text doesn’t use this word. Specifically, in Chapter 13 there is a beast “having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy” that some consider to be an allusion to the Antichrist.

“It’s only in Chapter 13 and you could almost miss it,” Tabor said.

But among biblical scholars and historians, there is strong consensus that none of the strange, evil-sounding characters in the Book of Revelation actually represents the Antichrist.

“It wasn’t there in the Bible,” White said. “It emerges in the Middle Ages. It’s something historians deal with.”

Now the word Antichrist does appear a few times in other books of the Bible, specifically in First John and Second John. The description in First John, Chapter 4, verse 3 says: “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

• There’s no mention of a man of a certain age.

The Book of Revelation talks of God, Jesus Christ, John, spirits, Jezebel, a beast like a calf, a beast like a flying eagle, elders, a great red dragon and many more animals and people. But nowhere does it describe “a man, in his 40s,” as the e-mail alleges.

“As you notice, there’s nothing about being age 40,” Tabor said. “This is completely wrong. The Book of Revelation doesn’t say that. It says it’s a male, so I guess they got that right. It says ‘he,’ ‘he,’ ‘he.’ ”

• There’s no mention of the word “Muslim.”

Considering the Bible was completed by the early second century, and the Islam religion wasn’t founded until the early 600s, it’s not surprising that the world Muslim (the name for Islam followers) does not appear in the Book of Revelation.

So it’s this part of the e-mail, where it says the Antichrist will be a man “of Muslim descent,” that our religious scholars find particularly ridiculous.

By definition, the Antichrist is “the polar opposite and ultimate enemy of Christ,” according to the Encyclopedia Britannica. And because Muslims believe “there is no god but God,” they would have great difficulty with the idea of elevating a person to a divine status, White said.

“A Muslim would be a monotheist and the last thing a Muslim would do is have anyone worship anyone other than God,” Tabor said.

Not to mention the fact that Obama is not a Muslim.

White points to the specific descriptions of the Antichrist as evidence that the e-mail is drawing from a number of sources to create the image it wants to portray.

“There is no part of that anywhere in the Bible, not in those forms,” said White, who was a co-writer and historical consultant for the 1999 PBS documentary, Apocalypse! Time, History, and Revolution. “That’s all a jigsaw puzzle of bits and pieces all filtered through the kind of end-of-world scenarios we get in the theology that is the underpinning of the Left Behind novels.”

White says this patchwork interpretation of the Bible is common in some groups trying to justify certain beliefs.

“Of course, they never bothered to read the Scriptures carefully ... so it’s kind of a system of interpretation. That if you start with that presupposition. ... it’s all there you can just find it,” White said.

“That description (in the chain e-mail) never occurs anywhere in one place nor are the component parts really about the same situation. It’s a cherry-picking through Scripture to get it all to fit together.”

But fit together it doesn’t. The claim in this e-mail is egregiously inaccurate, so we rule it Pants on Fire wrong.

9/5/08
3
For the record, ALL chain e-mails are untrue.

9/6/08
6
Lobotomy Jones wrote:
For the record, ALL chain e-mails are untrue.
Can you put that in an e-mail for me so I can forward to 40 of my friends?

11/5/08
0
(Edited by bayareabeast21)
Shrugging Atlas wrote:
Rachel, I'm with you about not supporting Obama, but I think there are so many more valid reasons to be afraid of Obama.  These false and misleading "religious" and "Muslim" attacks actually just take people's eye of the ball.

Barack Obama is dangerous when it comes to the economy.  He wants to raise taxes and supports "big government" solutions to every problem (including socialized medicine).  Also, I read his first book and his strange fascination with Communism (and his Communist friends) is quite disturbing.  Also, I think he's dangerously inept to handle the dangerous world we live in.  We literally have extremists who want to see America and Western Civilization wiped off the map.

So I would ask you to not marginalize the argument by throwing out statements that can clearly be refuted.  Also, if you are that worried about him becoming President, wouldn't it behoove you to vote for McCain/Palin?
 I liked this post. Was wondering if you would care to fill us in on what it is that makes you think he is inept to deal with such a hostile world. I have gotten the same sense.

11/5/08
6
I studied Theology for a year at Loyola, New Orleans.  Revelations spoke to the people of that time in a literary form which borrowed from the book of Daniel in the Old Testament, called apololyptic.  It spoke of things that were currently happening as if it were predicting it in the future; and it spoke using symbolism from the Old Testament that would be understood by the intended audience.  It was not a prediction about the end of days. 

This whole idea of Obama being a Muslim antichrist is insulting to half the world.   It's a paranoid conspiricy theory that shows the political and spiritual immaturity of a large (but apparently shrinking) portion of America.  It's embarassing.

11/5/08
2
(Edited by bayareabeast21)
mamacatfan wrote:
I studied Theology for a year at Loyola, New Orleans.  Revelations spoke to the people of that time in a literary form which borrowed from the book of Daniel in the Old Testament, called apololyptic.  It spoke of things that were currently happening as if it were predicting it in the future; and it spoke using symbolism from the Old Testament that would be understood by the intended audience.  It was not a prediction about the end of days. 

This whole idea of Obama being a Muslim antichrist is insulting to half the world.   It's a paranoid conspiricy theory that shows the political and spiritual immaturity of a large (but apparently shrinking) portion of America.  It's embarassing.
 The whole Antichrist story seems to me to be a freakin fairy tale.

11/5/08
5
These kinds of ideas are what is wrong with this country and what has always been wrong with this country.  It's offensive and despicable.  Think what you about him politically, but come on, the anti-Christ? However his presidency goes and whatever direction this country moves in (which I think can only get better after the last 8 years, but thats only my opinion) he is not going to plan any attacks on the country that his given him so much and is not going to kill Americans.  He's an American just like any of us who wants America to flourish.  He might have a different idea as to how that gets done so in that way if people think he's dangerous fine but he's not a terrorist or the anti-Christ.

11/5/08
1
imsports2002 wrote:
These kinds of ideas are what is wrong with this country and what has always been wrong with this country.  It's offensive and despicable.  Think what you about him politically, but come on, the anti-Christ? However his presidency goes and whatever direction this country moves in (which I think can only get better after the last 8 years, but thats only my opinion) he is not going to plan any attacks on the country that his given him so much and is not going to kill Americans.  He's an American just like any of us who wants America to flourish.  He might have a different idea as to how that gets done so in that way if people think he's dangerous fine but he's not a terrorist or the anti-Christ.
 Very well stated. One can't help but to wonder if it is people just trying to stir up something dramatic for entertainment purposes.

I certainly hope they aren't that stupid.

11/5/08
5
I have read the Bible and "Revelations" numerous times and I find it funny that 1) IT NEVER describes the "Anti- Christ" as this post suggests and 2) It doesn't even use the word "Anti-Christ" or Muslim...... Hmmmmm, once again- SCARE TACTICS used by Bible Thumpers! These people really need to get a life!   BTW, the name Barack Obama is actually of AFRICAN (specifically Kenyan) descent and origins- not MUSLIM- and President Obama is not a Muslim!

11/6/08
3
Rachel, I've respected you on this site, but if you really believe everything you put in this article, I've lost some of that respect.  Are you really going as low as judging a man by his middle name?  You need a reality check!

11/6/08
7
vindog wrote:
I have read the Bible and "Revelations" numerous times and I find it funny that 1) IT NEVER describes the "Anti- Christ" as this post suggests and 2) It doesn't even use the word "Anti-Christ" or Muslim...... Hmmmmm, once again- SCARE TACTICS used by Bible Thumpers! These people really need to get a life!   BTW, the name Barack Obama is actually of AFRICAN (specifically Kenyan) descent and origins- not MUSLIM- and President Obama is not a Muslim!
Thank you.  I was just about to ask how exactly this "anti-Christ" is supposed to be of Muslim "descent" (which Muslim is a religion, not an ethnicity, so he really can't be of Muslim descent in the first place), when Islam was predated by Christianity by 600 years.  I don't think anyone was into predicting the mortal future nor were they using time machines, so it'd be a nice little research project to see how exactly they were able to predict and pinpoint this religion that was yet to be started for over half a millenia.

One more thing: were Muslims responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing?  The Holocaust?  The genocide of American Indians?  Are they they ones going into school and popping off their classmates or bombing Planned Parenthood clinics?  No.  Every ethnicity, every culture all has their share of psychotic wackjobs.  Hell, go look up what Vlad Tepes did to Muslims, then tell me you don't think white people can be just as crazy, if not moreso, as any "evil Mulsim".

11/7/08
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Air-head.

11/7/08
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kramer wrote:
Rachel, I've respected you on this site, but if you really believe everything you put in this article, I've lost some of that respect.  Are you really going as low as judging a man by his middle name?  You need a reality check!
You're a fool for trying to tell someone who took their time to piece something together and post something that they are curious about that they lost your respect for it.

Oh no wouldn't want to lose Kramers respect.

I don't agree with this in the slightest either but she clearly said she thought it was just something interesting and she figured she would share it.

11/8/08
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bayareabeast21 wrote:
You're a fool for trying to tell someone who took their time to piece something together and post something that they are curious about that they lost your respect for it.

Oh no wouldn't want to lose Kramers respect.

I don't agree with this in the slightest either but she clearly said she thought it was just something interesting and she figured she would share it.

Of course you'd have to be a smarta$$ and try to tell me I shouldn't say anything, well too bad!  I don't care what people think of me, and I'm not going to recant what I said just because you think I should.  If someone posts an article like this, they should be ready to take some heat for it, end of story.


11/11/08
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McCain lost. Its okay.

Can you go away now?

 
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