NLCS - Game 2
Game Time: Mon, Oct 15 @ 8:00 PM ET
Final
St. Louis Cardinals
St. Louis Cardinals
(68-57)
1 Loss: C. Carpenter (2-7)
San Francisco Giants
San Francisco Giants
(65-59)
7 Win: R. Vogelsong (5-1)
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ML31 wrote: Make no mistake, I'm not a supporter of 4 division Leagues. But yes. It is, along with all the problems that go along with that, still better than letting 2nd and 3rd place teams in the post season. I'm just very happy that when the Giants won a World Series they did it as a division winner.
Right I remember you saying that, you were were saying baseball need to go to that. A time back you had mention it was better then the wild card, and I was not that crazy about it the, but now I know I would go along with it compare to what we now have. I know you are with the Tigers winning tonight hopefully it will be a Tigers-Giants World Series.
10/16/12
jaysinw wrote: Very true, I did not like your idea of the four divisions, but that idea makes way more sense then having a wild card team(s) and game. At least then only first place teams would be going for the championship, as you had stated before. To bad baseball and Selig will not go there.
Make no mistake, I'm not a supporter of 4 division Leagues. But yes. It is, along with all the problems that go along with that, still better than letting 2nd and 3rd place teams in the post season. I'm just very happy that when the Giants won a World Series they did it as a division winner.
San Francisco Giants 10/16/12
ML31 wrote: Which is why many still feel the post season should only be open to teams that actually finish the season in first place. A shot at the World Series is the prize for it. 2nd place shouldn't be rewarded with the same thing first place gets after 162 games.
Very true, I did not like your idea of the four divisions, but that idea makes way more sense then having a wild card team(s) and game. At least then only first place teams would be going for the championship, as you had stated before. To bad baseball and Selig will not go there.
10/16/12
jaysinw wrote: You are missing the point that is being made. The 55-107 Houston Astros could make it this far in the play-offs and even to the World Series if we open the wild card to every team. Being the worst team in the Majors and winning the WS would not mean they earned it, instead they just got hot at the right time.
Which is why many still feel the post season should only be open to teams that actually finish the season in first place. A shot at the World Series is the prize for it. 2nd place shouldn't be rewarded with the same thing first place gets after 162 games.
San Francisco Giants 10/16/12
wrote: Okay tired of talking about this subject since I keep get jumped on by everyone.If you scrolled down to the original comment you will see that I was responding to ML31 comment's about the Cards not deserving any respect for being in the playoffs. My response to ML31 was:
The Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving wild card team and win the NLCS. My final response was a typo in the way I worded the sentence I did not mean to say the better team should be the wild card team.
I will continue to say this whether you or anyone else thinks it's foolish or not!
I am merely cheering on a team that I like. That is all.
You are missing the point that is being made. The 55-107 Houston Astros could make it this far in the play-offs and even to the World Series if we open the wild card to every team. Being the worst team in the Majors and winning the WS would not mean they earned it, instead they just got hot at the right time.
10/16/12
wrote: Okay tired of talking about this subject since I keep get jumped on by everyone.If you scrolled down to the original comment you will see that I was responding to ML31 comment's about the Cards not deserving any respect for being in the playoffs. My response to ML31 was:
The Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving wild card team and win the NLCS. My final response was a typo in the way I worded the sentence I did not mean to say the better team should be the wild card team.
I will continue to say this whether you or anyone else thinks it's foolish or not!
I am merely cheering on a team that I like. That is all.
I cheer my team too. But there are limits. For example (being extreme on purpose to make a point) if my team won a title of some sort because the other team perished in a bus accident, you won't see me jumping up and down being excited about a title they just "won".
San Francisco Giants 10/16/12
wrote: Okay tired of talking about this subject since I keep get jumped on by everyone.If you scrolled down to the original comment you will see that I was responding to ML31 comment's about the Cards not deserving any respect for being in the playoffs. My response to ML31 was:
The Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving wild card team and win the NLCS. My final response was a typo in the way I worded the sentence I did not mean to say the better team should be the wild card team.
I will continue to say this whether you or anyone else thinks it's foolish or not!
I am merely cheering on a team that I like. That is all.
Awesome! :)
St. Louis Cardinals 10/16/12

Okay tired of talking about this subject since I keep get jumped on by everyone.If you scrolled down to the original comment you will see that I was responding to ML31 comment's about the Cards not deserving any respect for being in the playoffs. My response to ML31 was:
The Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving wild card team and win the NLCS. My final response was a typo in the way I worded the sentence I did not mean to say the better team should be the wild card team.
I will continue to say this whether you or anyone else thinks it's foolish or not!
I am merely cheering on a team that I like. That is all.
St. Louis Cardinals 10/16/12
wrote: You will just not cut them any slack will you. Doesn't matter how they got there they are there. I don't think it's foolish to say the better team should be the wild card team.
Just asking if they were the better team why didn't the Cardinals win the the NLC??? They had 162 games to prove they were the best in the NLC and did't. so I would have to say yes it is foolish. Just as the Giants were not the best team ini the NFL last season but they won the Super Bowl.
10/16/12
Congrats Giants
St. Louis Cardinals 10/16/12
wrote: Well all I have to say is may the Cards win another "Faux World Series"!
Very possible. Although I wouldn't consider that something to be happy about. In fact, I'd be downright embarrassed about it. I'm just not an ends justify the means kind of person.
San Francisco Giants 10/16/12
WTG Giants !
San Francisco Giants 10/16/12

ML31 wrote: They didn't win their division. Why should they get any slack? You may feel it's not foolish to think the better team always wins but history has shown that has NOT been the case. Particularly since 1995 the better team has more often than not failed to win their playoff series. With the larger sized playoff field it is less about what team is better and more about what team is on a better roll at the time. Case in point, in 2010 the Giants were certainly not better than the Phils. But the Giants were just firing on all cylinders at the time. At least the Giants were legitimate division winners...
Well all I have to say is may the Cards win another "Faux World Series"!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/16/12
wrote: You will just not cut them any slack will you. Doesn't matter how they got there they are there. I don't think it's foolish to say the better team should be the wild card team.
They didn't win their division. Why should they get any slack? You may feel it's not foolish to think the better team always wins but history has shown that has NOT been the case. Particularly since 1995 the better team has more often than not failed to win their playoff series. With the larger sized playoff field it is less about what team is better and more about what team is on a better roll at the time. Case in point, in 2010 the Giants were certainly not better than the Phils. But the Giants were just firing on all cylinders at the time. At least the Giants were legitimate division winners...
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12

ML31 wrote: It was a faux World Series last year as the Cards were a 2nd place team and didn't earn it. When the Giants won in 2010 they were a legitimate division winner. So your history point is moot. Next, it is foolish to say the better team should beat the wild card team. This is baseball. Even the worst teams win 4 out of 10. And if you get them at a time when they are playing decently even the best teams will lose a series to the lesser team. So your other point is moot as well because no matter what happens in this series it doesn't change the fact that as a 2nd place team the Cards have no business being in the post season. Just like in 2011.
You will just not cut them any slack will you. Doesn't matter how they got there they are there. I don't think it's foolish to say the better team should be the wild card team.
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
wrote: Let's remember who won the World Series last year not the Giants. So if what you are saying is so then the Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving inferior wild card team and win the NLC without any problems. We will see.
It was a faux World Series last year as the Cards were a 2nd place team and didn't earn it. When the Giants won in 2010 they were a legitimate division winner. So your history point is moot. Next, it is foolish to say the better team should beat the wild card team. This is baseball. Even the worst teams win 4 out of 10. And if you get them at a time when they are playing decently even the best teams will lose a series to the lesser team. So your other point is moot as well because no matter what happens in this series it doesn't change the fact that as a 2nd place team the Cards have no business being in the post season. Just like in 2011.
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12

ML31 wrote: I know Giants caught a big break in that previous inning with the blown call. But Cards fans shouldn't be annoyed as a blown call is nothing compared to getting int he playoffs without winning your division.
Let's remember who won the World Series last year not the Giants. So if what you are saying is so then the Giants should have no problem beating this undeserving inferior wild card team and win the NLC without any problems. We will see.
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
I know Giants caught a big break in that previous inning with the blown call. But Cards fans shouldn't be annoyed as a blown call is nothing compared to getting int he playoffs without winning your division.
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
kmj22 wrote: Let's show them why were here!!!!!
We all know why the Cards are there. Because back in 1993 owners decided to let teams who don't win into the playoffs.
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Come on Giants I need you knock the wild card team out. Make the World Series prevalent.
10/15/12

Cards have the Giants exactly where they want em :-)
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Go Giants !!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Lets go Cards!!!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Lets go Cards!!!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Game 2 - GIANTS gotta get even! Score runs by the touchdowns!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
The Giants will be too big for the Cardinals tonight
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
GO GIANTS !!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
The Giants will win!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Carpenter, the Giant Killer strikes.
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
The Giants will nail Carpenter with a loss.
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Lucky Cardinals reach into their box of Lucky Charms and pull out another win.
10/15/12
GIANTS WIN !!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Look at the Cards go. Love my Cardinals
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
GOOO Cards
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Giants don't have the Offense to hang
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Carp!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
CARDS ARE SOARING HIGH AND AWAY.........GIANTS WONT CATCH THEM HERE
10/15/12
Tonight............San Francisco Giants will win!!!!!!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
The Giants needs to just get a lead and not let these Cardinals come back because if they do.......you know what will happen because it has happen so many times......The Cardinals will win!!! HOLD EM GIANTS.........HOLD EM!!!!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
The Giants will put it on the Cardinals this time. They almost came back last night....but the Cardinals held on. COME ON GIANTS!!!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
The Giants will rebound and get this win tonight and even the series!!!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Carp gets gm 2
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Cards baby
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Rooting for the Giants!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Cards
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
The Cardinals are playing determined they win again!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Get it done, Giants !!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Go Cards!!!
St. Louis Cardinals 10/15/12
Giants take game 2 !!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
Let's Go Giants !!!
San Francisco Giants 10/15/12
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