Does Curt Schilling belong in the hall of fame ?

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Does Curt Schilling belong in the hall of fame ?

| Closed on 07/21/08 at 05:00PM
FanIQ Pts? No | MLB, AL East, Boston Red Sox | Multiple Choice Opinion Poll

74 Fans
51%	a. Yes
35%	b. No
14%	c. No opinion

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#8 \| 78 days ago EdSpeshel (+)	+14 287 wins, 3701 K's(which was 3rd all time when he retired and is currently 5Th.), 3.31 career ERA, 242 CG, 60 Shutouts, 2 WS wins, and those stats don't get you in the HOF. Schilling is at: 216 wins, 3116 K's, 3.46 ERA, 83 CG, 20 Shutouts, and 3 WS wins. I like Schilling but he is currently 81'st in Wins behind guys like Jack Morris(254), Jim Kaat(283), and Bert Blyleven(287). Jack Morris has 3 WS wins, Jim Kaat has 16 GG's, and Bert's stats are listed above. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve consideration but I don't think he makes it. No
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#1 \| 78 days ago JCMurphy4 (+)	+4 I like the guy and he's a good pitcher, but there are a few of his contemporaries who should be considered before him. No
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#2 \| 78 days ago theshrewdone (+)	+1 Hmmmm....yeah..... http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=247511&rnum=8#new but it could be double vision...I still haven't slept. Yes
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#3 \| 78 days ago AMAZINGGRACE (+)	theshrewdone wrote: Hmmmm....yeah..... http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=247511&rnum=8#new but it could be double vision...I still haven't slept. +1 Sorry, I check the dupicate poll and that poll was not in it !
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#4 \| 78 days ago Pat (+)	+9 His sock is already in there... he'll be joining it shortly after he's eligible. His outspokenness might cost him a year or two, but the vital part he played in 3 championships will get him in, as well as the years in which he toiled fruitlessly for some awful Philly teams. Yes
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#5 \| 78 days ago theshrewdone (+)	AMAZINGGRACE wrote: Sorry, I check the dupicate poll and that poll was not in it ! +2 eh...whatever...you definitely won't be the last to ask this question...especially once he officially does retire...and his name comes up for official discussion by the committee...we should see about 4 or 5 a week during those periods! Yes
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#6 \| 78 days ago nebo (+)	+2 I sat on the fence. There are some ballplayers that are a shoe in for the HOF. With others there may be question marks. With these we may need time to clear out any prejudices before we can be fair. Schilling may be one of those. If you are a Yankee fan you may need said time and vice versa if you are a Sox fan toward a Yankee player. Time helps. No opinion
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#7 \| 78 days ago Michael (+)	+2 It will not be a first ballot election. It may take years but I do believe eventually he'll be elected to the HOF. Yes
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#8 \| 78 days ago EdSpeshel (+)	+14 287 wins, 3701 K's(which was 3rd all time when he retired and is currently 5Th.), 3.31 career ERA, 242 CG, 60 Shutouts, 2 WS wins, and those stats don't get you in the HOF. Schilling is at: 216 wins, 3116 K's, 3.46 ERA, 83 CG, 20 Shutouts, and 3 WS wins. I like Schilling but he is currently 81'st in Wins behind guys like Jack Morris(254), Jim Kaat(283), and Bert Blyleven(287). Jack Morris has 3 WS wins, Jim Kaat has 16 GG's, and Bert's stats are listed above. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve consideration but I don't think he makes it. No
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#9 \| 78 days ago nebo (+)	+1 If I may add one more thing. The HOF to me has always meant the "ELITE". If there are 6, 7 or 8 guys grouped around and under the 300 win mark that should say something. 300 wins has always been the benchmark in my mind for pitchers. I don't remember the list right off hand but that probably would knock out some of my favorites. What I am saying I guess is there should be a standard that is a wall between the elite and the very good. No opinion
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#10 \| 78 days ago danny_n94 (+)	+2 I don't know if is he a HOFer. But he has 3 rings 1993 NLCS MVP, 2001 WS Co-MVP and helped the yankees into the record books as the only team in baseball to blow a 3-0 lead. ( I love that). Just the fact he has beaten the yankess twice in the postseason should put him in the hall. If he does get in it wont be 10-15 years after he is eligible No opinion
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#11 \| 77 days ago raimondal (+)	Yes
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#12 \| 77 days ago Yossarian (+)	+3 He didn't become a starting pitcher until he was 26, and played on some bad Philly teams. I am kinda on the fence, but I think he is a HOF pitcher. Yes
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#13 \| 76 days ago DABULL43 (+)	+1 NOPE !!!
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#14 \| 76 days ago faithsports13 (+)	+3 Yes, I believe so. Curt Schilling should be inducted into the Hall of Fame, with all he has accomplished with Philadelphia, Arizona and Boston; Especially, the the performance Curt gave, in the 2004 World Series against St. Louis...namely pitching with a bloodly akle problem. A pitcher with heart and guts. Thanks AmazingGrace, for this invitation to answer this Curt Schilling question...whether or not he should be entered into the H.O.F. God Bless, Robert Yes
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#15 \| 76 days ago Pat (+)	DABULL43 wrote: NOPE !!! +8 Between your profile pic, your constant use of capitalization and bold letters, and the fact that you feel the need to answer polls with a comment, but not actually take the poll, it's clear that we should just disregard pretty much everything you say. But that's just me... Yes
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#16 \| 76 days ago Keeter (+)	(Edited by Keeter) +1 I think he eventually will be; previous comments dictate though that there are others likely more deserving. I'm actually on the fence w/ Blylevin - his average record was like 14-12 (he lost 254 games I believe). Plus, he never finished higher than 3rd in any year's Cy Young award voting (3rd twice, and a 4th). I'm surprised that Kaat never got the support - he won 283 games and won 16 Gold Gloves. Many others too that need to be considered - Tommy John, Frank Tanana, even guys like Ron Guidry too. If Schilling makes it in, then Jack Morris should also make it, for Schil will make it more for postseason work...... No
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#17 \| 76 days ago forrest_viv (+)	+1 Personally, I think he's a jerk who has an opinion about everything. But the man can pitch under pressure (although the bloody sock thing was a joke!) Yes
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#18 \| 76 days ago j_dogs_ny (+)	First 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA post season record. And not to mention the sorry Phillies teams he has played for in the past. I think it has less to do with his pitching but more of the times,conditions of the game, era and the teams that he pitched for. Koufax-165 wins, Drysdale-209 wins, Hunter-224 Wins and they are all hall of famers. So I believe there is no reason he can't be a hall of famer. I'm just not sure how long it's going to take him but definetly should be one Yes
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#19 \| 76 days ago Pat (+)	Keeter wrote: I think he eventually will be; previous comments dictate though that there are others likely more deserving. I'm actually on the fence w/ Blylevin - his average record was like 14-12 (he lost 254 games I believe). Plus, he never finished higher than 3rd in any year's Cy Young award voting (3rd twice, and a 4th). I'm surprised that Kaat never got the support - he won 283 games and won 16 Gold Gloves. Many others too that need to be considered - Tommy John, Frank Tanana, even guys like Ron Guidry too. If Schilling makes it in, then Jack Morris should also make it, for Schil will make it more for postseason work...... +2 Sure what the hell... let's just let EVERYBODY in... Tanana? Guidry? Are you serious? John should make it in because the surgery that bears his name has revolutionized the game. So he should be in as a contributor, not necessarily as a player. But let's not get crazy here... Yes
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#20 \| 76 days ago BoBoBeast202124 (+)	theshrewdone wrote: Hmmmm....yeah..... http://www.faniq.com/poll_results.php?poll_id=247511&rnum=8#new but it could be double vision...I still haven't slept. +1 sorry you havent been sleeping Yes
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#21 \| 76 days ago bookiebuster (+)	I would have to say no, he falls about one or two 20 win seasons short of getting into Cooperstown.
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#22 \| 75 days ago olfuzzybat (+)	No way does Schilling get in the HOF.
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#23 \| 75 days ago Ryan (+)	I'm really on the fence about this one. I don't think his win totals are strong enough, but that's really the only department where he's lacking. Strikeouts and complete games are very impressive. Plus, he's been clutch in the post-season (could possibly have another ring if not for Mitch Williams). I'll give him a break for the bad Philly teams he was on (even though Steve Carlton had a *much* better season in '72 on a far worse team), but I also think that's going to hurt him a bit (as I think he could have handled that situation a little better). I don't think he will (or should) make it in on the first vote, but I think he'll be in there. It's hard to deny that from 1993-2004 he was one of the three premier pitchers in the league. That has to count for something. Also, I think it's absurd that Morris isn't in. (If Morris doesn't get in, then I'm not convinced Schilling should) I'm still on the fence about Blylevin, but I could probably be convinced. I can't believe I'm going to agree with Pat, but I like the statement "Sure what the hell... let's just let EVERYBODY in...". It seems like when we start talking about whether players should be in the Hall or not, we tend to lower our standards. When I ask myself, "Was Curt Schilling just a good pitcher or was he a great pitcher?" , I have to say he was a great pitcher. Should be an interesting debate in a few years. I could understand if he doesn't get in, but I think he will. Yes
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#24 \| 75 days ago EdSpeshel (+)	+2 Mike and Mike on ESPN brought up a good point yesterday as well. Schilling might be in the same class as Randy Johnson, John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and Greg Maddux. Good luck getting the votes in that group, and that's just the pitchers. No
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#25 \| 75 days ago Ryan (+)	(Edited by Ryan) EdSpeshel wrote: Mike and Mike on ESPN brought up a good point yesterday as well. Schilling might be in the same class as Randy Johnson, John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and Greg Maddux. Good luck getting the votes in that group, and that's just the pitchers. +2 Well, he could probably steal a few from Clemens. I imagine those votes aren't real solid right now. Yes
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#26 \| 75 days ago Buttons (+)	+2 Schilling had 4 hall of fame seasons. If you want to give him a pass because he was on a bad team, fine. But once again this question is posed and it reaffirms my assertion that the HOF is now "The Hall of the Very Good, and Some Other Guys We Just Like Alot." The HOF should be reserved for the top 2% of players in the history of the sport. Schilling does not make that mark, not even close. There are so many artifacts there that every player who has ever played the game is essentially "in" the hall, even Pete Rose and Joe Jackson. Reserve enshrinement for the greatest ever, otherwise it just doesn't mean anything. No
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#27 \| 74 days ago tapout632 (+)	Using the Mike Greenberg test, I say no. Upon further review, Schilling was a post-season, big game pitcher, which will help his candidacy. Aside from some of the above mentioned guys Kaat, Blyleven and Morris, Schilling is also behind Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, John Smoltz. Tom Glavine, Mariano Rivera and probably Pedro Martinez and Trevor Hoffman. No
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