Gibbs Trying out new stuff on the ALL STAR RACE!!

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Gibbs Trying out new stuff on the ALL STAR RACE!!

Read the Article: Gibbs Trying out new stuff on the ALL STAR RACE!!

Personally I would not have been to happy being Tony, Denny, or Kyle last weekend!!

They finally had a chance to drive their cars HARD AS THEY COULD, and what happens?

Total engine FAILURE!!!

This is a interesting article about the decisions Gibbs made to try new stuff at the All Star race, I would be PISSED off if I was a Gibbs Driver, that is why they have Test Sessions and DATA!! Dont get me out there on a 200 MPH track with Faulty Equipment, that is just a accident waiting to happen!

Luckily they made it, without taking the rest of the field out, but what if?? What if them taking chances would have killed another Nascar Driver? The way those engines let go, I am amazed they got them off the track without making a BIG OIL SLICK!!

What is YOUR OPINION?
Should they Test at such a race>?
Should they Not?

| Closed on 06/18/08 at 05:00PM
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Team Breakout:

26 Fans
50%	a. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
4%	b. NO, THEY HAVE TESTING DATES
42%	c. I DONT CARE WHAT THEY DO

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#12 \| 196 days ago flashback696 (+)	+4 This was tough to answer for me - some of my very fav drivers work for Joe. The All-Star race and, by proxy the Shootout in the Spring, are non-points races and subjected the whims of those building the cars. In all actuality, what would you rather win - The Shootout or Daytona 500? All-Star or Coke 600? Why not test or try something new? Don't you think some of the other teams tried something new or hit on set up that might work for them? So, no, I don't care what they try if it will help them in the big races.
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#1 \| 197 days ago nopichic123 (+)	+2 It's like buying a new pair of shoes without trying them on before leaving the store. You don't know how they fit, if they fit or if you can walk in them. Trying new, untested "things" can get someone killed. The cars are too powerful to send out on a track like Lowes with out testing. It is crazy to put any driver in such a situation..
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#2 \| 197 days ago d29point9 (+)	+2 Well, Tony came out alright, and neither the 11 or 18 blew spectacularly, like the DEI engines of '07.....and, it ISN'T a POINTS RACE! So yep - I am fine with it, if that is what they choose to do. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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#3 \| 197 days ago 242fast (+)	+2 I think it is a great time to try something new. I would rather blow a motor during an all-star race than during a points race when it really matters. I think Tony went back to the old motor. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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#4 \| 197 days ago JohnFrench (+)	(Edited by JohnFrench) +4 first of all, teams try new stuff quite often at races, without prior testing. it happens quite often actually, and why not test a new motor at a non points race, it wont hurt them if anything happens.. as far as a safety issue goes, NASCAR does their inspections on every car, if the motors would have been unsafe to run NASCAR wouldnt have let them use them.. plain and simple.. so if they were ok with NASCAR then whats the diffrence from that motor blowing to any other motor blowing?? none.. and i am sorry, you cannot sit there and tell me that TS, DH, and KB did not know those were experimental engines, cmon now.. they know those cars just as much as any other driver does.. and im sure the team made a descion as a whole, not just the chiefs making the descion and slipping it past the drivers.. cmon now.. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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#5 \| 197 days ago derms33 (+)	+3 Joe Gibbs is always trying things...Remember when he tested out that extra timeout theory and cost the 'Skins the game? I DONT CARE WHAT THEY DO
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#6 \| 197 days ago Luke4HMS (+)	(Edited by Luke4HMS) +1 Very good points to all, and I guess the difference is that they all HAVE MONEY! For me, the chance at a Million and BRAGING RIGHTS would mean so much, I would not let them mess with it too much! As for Tony, I think he did (AS 2FAST and others have said) go back to the old motor after blowing before the race, He knew it was a bad Idea, I BET. I just would not use a MILLION DOLLAR Race like it dont matter, IT WOULD MATTER TO ME!! Maybe it was not the cars that made the All Star Race UNeventful, maybe the drivers did not want it? I dont think so though, they were trying to find that extra something to get them to the next level in the COT! Nothing wrong with that, but a NEW untested Motor IN ALL 3 CARS? Come on, did they have to test 3 of them? LOL I dont care what Gibbs does personally, Just wonder what they are thinking some times. Whatever it is, it seems to be working! GO HMS!
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#7 \| 197 days ago howard74 (+)	+2 I can give you a million reasons not to test at the all star race!!! One million dollars is why!! The driver only get about 40% of the purse. They just had an extra test the week before at lowes, so why do it at this race??? I personally don't care what JGR does. I hope there enignes blow every week. I never thought Toyota should have been allowed in Nascar. So blow up!! I also believe that before the all star race that Toyota had more horse power than any other engines. So why get greedy? Kevin Harvick already said that Toyota had something extra and I agree with him. I can not stand anyone at Joe Gibbs racing. Thats why Stewart wants to drive a chevy next year. I DONT CARE WHAT THEY DO
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#8 \| 197 days ago foolforstamping (+)	+2 If you are gonna try out new stuff a non points race would be the time to do it if there is no testing going on. I would rather see Tony blow and engine during the allstar race then during the Brickyard 500. At least now they know that that engine is nowhere ready to race and they need to go back to the drawing board. It would have been nice to get a win. But at least they learned something important during a race that didn't count towards the season. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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#9 \| 197 days ago Luke4HMS (+)	foolforstamping wrote: If you are gonna try out new stuff a non points race would be the time to do it if there is no testing going on. I would rather see Tony blow and engine during the allstar race then during the Brickyard 500. At least now they know that that engine is nowhere ready to race and they need to go back to the drawing board. It would have been nice to get a win. But at least they learned something important during a race that didn't count towards the season. +1 But did they not just test there a few weeks ago? Why not test it then, dont get me wrong, I am glad they did that, or they would have won I am sure, BUT I would have been pissed if HMS would have done that! Thanks for your input Chreryl! Later
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#10 \| 196 days ago JohnFrench (+)	+4 now someone correct me if im wrong here, maybe i read diffrent articles then ya'll did.. what i had read is the motor as a whole was not experimental, only the cylinder heads were.. the guy who works on the heads wanted to try something diffrent, when he had tested them they figured out that the heaads should definetaly be good for 300 miles. so if you figure the all-star race is only 100 laps then they should have lasted the length of the race. all 3 motors had problems with the cylinder heads failing, it wasnt blowing the whole motor... when people race for the all-star race they bring out all kinds of things to make their car the best. cmon now they are running for 1 million and bragging rights and with it being a non-points race thats the best time to bring the big guns out of the closet and try everything to win.. whats the diffrence in trying something experimental?? and im sorry you cant sit there and tell me that none of the other teams didnt try something new? they just didnt have failures with their experiments.. YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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#11 \| 196 days ago Luke4HMS (+)	JohnFrench wrote: now someone correct me if im wrong here, maybe i read diffrent articles then ya'll did.. what i had read is the motor as a whole was not experimental, only the cylinder heads were.. the guy who works on the heads wanted to try something diffrent, when he had tested them they figured out that the heaads should definetaly be good for 300 miles. so if you figure the all-star race is only 100 laps then they should have lasted the length of the race. all 3 motors had problems with the cylinder heads failing, it wasnt blowing the whole motor... when people race for the all-star race they bring out all kinds of things to make their car the best. cmon now they are running for 1 million and bragging rights and with it being a non-points race thats the best time to bring the big guns out of the closet and try everything to win.. whats the diffrence in trying something experimental?? and im sorry you cant sit there and tell me that none of the other teams didnt try something new? they just didnt have failures with their experiments.. +2 Very NICE!! That is the kind of Info, I was searching for! I was not aware of what exactly happened, I do see the point in EXPIEREMENTING, but I did not know they used these motors in the Test. As bad as they were, surpised they did not blow then! Thanks JF
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#12 \| 196 days ago flashback696 (+)	+4 This was tough to answer for me - some of my very fav drivers work for Joe. The All-Star race and, by proxy the Shootout in the Spring, are non-points races and subjected the whims of those building the cars. In all actuality, what would you rather win - The Shootout or Daytona 500? All-Star or Coke 600? Why not test or try something new? Don't you think some of the other teams tried something new or hit on set up that might work for them? So, no, I don't care what they try if it will help them in the big races.
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#13 \| 193 days ago MIKE! (+)	+2 i would say go for it, but, that would only be if the drivers consent to it. there are other times to test equipment, but, none of those other times are in race conditions, except the actual race. and i know i would rather find out that something is wrong with my car in a race that is just for fun and wont effect me points wise, then to find out during a race that counts YES THEY WERE FINE TO TEST THERE
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